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(LA Times)   Fed Judge at Michael Slager's sentencing hearing on his guilty plea for violating Walter Scott's civil rights by, you know, fatally shooting him in the back, finds that Slager committed both Murder and Obstruction of Justice. Slager sentenced to 20 years   ( latimes.com) divider line
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2017-12-07 12:29:22 PM  
Up to 20 years? So he can get 0?
 
2017-12-07 12:29:37 PM  
Please, let one cop who does something like this get punished appropriately
 
hej
2017-12-07 12:30:20 PM  
I'm guessing he'd last less than one if he ever went to prison.
 
2017-12-07 12:30:47 PM  
Let's wait until sentencing.

Then we can say, "It's a start."
 
2017-12-07 12:31:15 PM  

ColonelCathcart: Up to 20 years? So he can get 0?


"Sentenced to time served. Get OUTTA here you big Lug!!"
 
2017-12-07 12:31:51 PM  
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2017-12-07 12:31:55 PM  
Obstruction of justice should get him put in the same cell as Don Sr.
 
2017-12-07 12:32:04 PM  

ColonelCathcart: Up to 20 years? So he can get 0?


technically yes, realistically no. Federal sentencing guidelines are no longer legally mandatory, but departing from them would allow the prosecution grounds for an appeal.   My guess is he's looking at 144 months (12 years but the guidelines do it by months) minimum
 
2017-12-07 12:32:30 PM  
 
2017-12-07 12:33:18 PM  
Presidential pardon in 3...2....
 
2017-12-07 12:33:53 PM  
The Police Union really let him down on this one.

/s
 
2017-12-07 12:34:49 PM  
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RIP,  Walter Scott.
 
2017-12-07 12:35:15 PM  

swamp_of_dumb: Let's wait until sentencing.

Then we can say, "It's a start."


This is still very significant because of how the Sentencing of federal crimes works.  You plead to a specific offense, which has a range of time you can get for it, but then you have a sentencing hearing to see how bad of a person you are, what it was EXACTLY that you did and how close to the max for that crime you deserve.   If a cop, say slapped around a suspect, they are guilty of this same federal crime, but they are facing a LOT less years than someone who is found to have MURDERED someone, as the underlying act.  Similarly the finding of obstruction is a second crime which a massive sentence enhancer under the guidelines
 
2017-12-07 12:35:31 PM  
Finally a white cop gets found guilty of murdering a black man.  It only took clear video, an unarmed victim running away from the cop, and 200+ years of this shiat happening.
 
2017-12-07 12:36:37 PM  

Graffito: Finally a white cop gets found guilty of murdering a black man.  It only took clear video, an unarmed victim running away from the cop, and 200+ years of this shiat happening.


let's not forget an inexplicably hung jury...
 
2017-12-07 12:37:25 PM  
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He just got 20 years.
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2017-12-07 12:37:27 PM  

thorpe: Good.

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http://abcnews.go.com/US/walter-scott-​shooting-breaking-witness-video-frame-​frame/story?id=30159871


If that video hadn't been taken, he would have absolutely gotten away with murder.

Plus... obstruction of justice?  Oh HELL no.  give him the maximum.  Hold officers who break the law to a higher standard.
 
2017-12-07 12:38:54 PM  

Willis13: Please, let one cop who does something like this get punished appropriately


 Why do I have this absolutely terrible apprehension that Hair Furor will try to Pardon him?
 
2017-12-07 12:40:43 PM  
We're 150 years past the Civil War and the South still can't get over Ivanhoe. Sad.
 
2017-12-07 12:41:58 PM  
I betcha Trump's pardon finger is getting itchy
 
2017-12-07 12:43:12 PM  

thorpe: Good.

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http://abcnews.go.com/US/walter-scott-​shooting-breaking-witness-video-frame-​frame/story?id=30159871


Look at Walter Scott, aggressively running away.
 
2017-12-07 12:43:26 PM  
If there wasn't a video this man would be a considered a hero.
 
2017-12-07 12:45:57 PM  
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FOR ONCE!
 
2017-12-07 12:47:15 PM  

Graffito: Finally a white cop gets found guilty of murdering a black man.  It only took clear video, an unarmed victim running away from the cop, and 200+ years of this shiat happening.


Finally?
Johannes Mehserle
Jason Blackwelder
Randall Kerrick
Shannon Kepler
Stephen Rankin
Daniel Holzclaw


And that was with about 5 minutes of googling. Your narrative is false.
 
2017-12-07 12:50:19 PM  
From the local paper:

"One by one, Scott's family members addressed the court, talking about how much they miss their son and brother at family gatherings. Each also said they forgive Slager.

"It took me some time to forgive Officer Slager," older brother Anthony Scott said, but eventually, "God gave forgiveness in my heart for Officer Slager. Forgiveness came easy for (other family members). It came very hard for me."

Anthony Scott said he is at peace with whatever punishment U.S. District Judge David Norton metes out.
"At the end of the day, there's another judge he has to face," he said."
 
2017-12-07 12:50:43 PM  

Tentaclefriendly: Willis13: Please, let one cop who does something like this get punished appropriately

 Why do I have this absolutely terrible apprehension that Hair Furor will try to Pardon him?


Is he being prosecuted for a Federal crime?
 
2017-12-07 12:52:18 PM  
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2017-12-07 12:52:50 PM  

durbnpoisn: Tentaclefriendly: Willis13: Please, let one cop who does something like this get punished appropriately

 Why do I have this absolutely terrible apprehension that Hair Furor will try to Pardon him?

Is he being prosecuted for a Federal crime?


Yes.  Thus Drumpf can pardon him.
 
2017-12-07 12:54:06 PM  
Damn liberal activist judges waging a war on police.

#bluelivesmatter
 
2017-12-07 12:54:22 PM  
This is one of those situations that doesn't make any sense at all.

I understand that sometimes cops lose their cool and panic.  I know they can get trigger happy when that happens.

But this dude...  He was no threat at all.  He was many yards away.  He was RUNNING away.  And the cop still felt the need to shoot him.

There is simply no defense for this.  The cop is a horrible human being.  He should be taken out back, beaten to a pulp and shot in the head.

I know, I know...  That's barbaric.  We don't do that in civilized society.  So let's make sure that 20 years sticks!
 
2017-12-07 12:54:33 PM  

mrsleep: Graffito: Finally a white cop gets found guilty of murdering a black man.  It only took clear video, an unarmed victim running away from the cop, and 200+ years of this shiat happening.

Finally?
Johannes Mehserle
Jason Blackwelder
Randall Kerrick
Shannon Kepler
Stephen Rankin
Daniel Holzclaw


And that was with about 5 minutes of googling. Your narrative is false.


So 7 cases? That really bolsters your case. Keep licking those boots.
 
2017-12-07 12:54:56 PM  

DarkVader: durbnpoisn: Tentaclefriendly: Willis13: Please, let one cop who does something like this get punished appropriately

 Why do I have this absolutely terrible apprehension that Hair Furor will try to Pardon him?

Is he being prosecuted for a Federal crime?

Yes.  Thus Drumpf can pardon him.


Well, damn.
In that case, he might very well do it.
 
2017-12-07 12:55:13 PM  
Sigh.

It took me a bit to remember which one this was.
 
2017-12-07 12:55:24 PM  

durbnpoisn: Tentaclefriendly: Willis13: Please, let one cop who does something like this get punished appropriately

 Why do I have this absolutely terrible apprehension that Hair Furor will try to Pardon him?

Is he being prosecuted for a Federal crime?


He pleaded guilty to a federal charge of violating Scott's civil rights.
 
2017-12-07 12:57:43 PM  

durbnpoisn: Tentaclefriendly: Willis13: Please, let one cop who does something like this get punished appropriately

 Why do I have this absolutely terrible apprehension that Hair Furor will try to Pardon him?

Is he being prosecuted for a Federal crime?


 Honest answer, I'm not sure. But it was a federal court.  I think this murder was a federal charge, but someone please correct me if I'm wrong here.
 
2017-12-07 01:00:22 PM  

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He just got 20 years.
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2017-12-07 01:00:36 PM  
Ok. I an curious about the cops that didn't report him planting the taser near the body and signee the completely false incident report.

This outcome is a measure of justice, but for any serious change to occur those officers need to be held accountable as well.
 
2017-12-07 01:05:33 PM  
question is when will the pardon be coming?
 
2017-12-07 01:06:20 PM  
In case anyone ever thinks we don't have deep, real social and racial problems in this country: remember that there's a damned clear, near-complete video of this guy murdering a fleeing suspect who is absolutely no danger to him, then planting a weapon on him to exculpatory himself, and yet a state court jury was hung and unable to convict him on charges.
 
2017-12-07 01:06:40 PM  

El Morro: thorpe: Good.

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http://abcnews.go.com/US/walter-scott-​shooting-breaking-witness-video-frame-​frame/story?id=30159871

If that video hadn't been taken, he would have absolutely gotten away with murder.

Plus... obstruction of justice?  Oh HELL no.  give him the maximum.  Hold officers who break the law to a higher standard.


It definitely makes you wonder just how many murders he has committed during his illustrious career.
 
2017-12-07 01:06:41 PM  
Maybe he should be sentenced to being executed by firing squad from behind. I guess prison is better than nothing.
 
2017-12-07 01:06:47 PM  

nquadroa: mrsleep: Graffito: Finally a white cop gets found guilty of murdering a black man.  It only took clear video, an unarmed victim running away from the cop, and 200+ years of this shiat happening.

Finally?
Johannes Mehserle
Jason Blackwelder
Randall Kerrick
Shannon Kepler
Stephen Rankin
Daniel Holzclaw


And that was with about 5 minutes of googling. Your narrative is false.

So 7 cases? That really bolsters your case. Keep licking those boots.


This is a guy that claims Mueller's investigation hasn't turned anything up so far.
 
2017-12-07 01:08:51 PM  
I'm curious about the level calculation here. A 43 gets you life in prison. Second-degree murder has a base offense level of 38. Section 2H1.1(b) increases that by 6 because he pled guilty to as a civil rights offense. The obstruction of justice adds another 2. So, on its own, his offense level seems like it would be a 46, but it looks like they got him down to 37. There's an acceptance of guilt reduction in there, but I'm not as nimble with the sentencing guidelines as I used to be.
 
2017-12-07 01:09:02 PM  
Trump:  "With this pardon, I want the healing to begin.  So this law enforcement officer, great contributor to the peace, by the way, can get on with his life and to the family whose suspected suspect ran from the police can now put their probably guilty, guilty as sin, deceased to a final rest."
 
2017-12-07 01:09:32 PM  

Dictatorial_Flair: Maybe he should be sentenced to being executed by firing squad from behind. I guess prison is better than nothing.


If there were any real justice he'd be given a 5-second head start on a machine gun.  Give him a taste of the terror and torture he inflicted on his victim.

I'll settle for a life term though.
 
2017-12-07 01:10:11 PM  

Tentaclefriendly: durbnpoisn: Tentaclefriendly: Willis13: Please, let one cop who does something like this get punished appropriately

 Why do I have this absolutely terrible apprehension that Hair Furor will try to Pardon him?

Is he being prosecuted for a Federal crime?

 Honest answer, I'm not sure. But it was a federal court.  I think this murder was a federal charge, but someone please correct me if I'm wrong here.


No. Murder was a State charge.

The Federal charges were Deprivation of Rights Under Color of Law, and the obstruction of justice and use of a firearm in a violent crime were dropped as part of the deal.
 
2017-12-07 01:13:13 PM  
So when does he get a Trump pardon and apology?
 
2017-12-07 01:13:22 PM  
Pardoned by Trump within a year.
 
2017-12-07 01:13:58 PM  
I'm worried that this ruling will cause other police officers to hesitate for a moment when in the process of shooting an unarmed fleeing suspect in the back...
 
2017-12-07 01:20:37 PM  
THANK F*CKING GOODNESS. At least ONE of the blatant caught-on-video murders by a cop was convicted and sentenced appropriately.
 
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