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2017-12-07 05:47:31 AM  
62 votes:
fark you, Donald.  Pooty won't let you go, will he?

Trump, you biatch.
2017-12-07 05:57:33 AM  
60 votes:
This is the icing on the cake:

How to dismantle sixty years of global leadership in eleven months.
2017-12-07 06:09:54 AM  
41 votes:
Oh for farks sake.  As if we haven't alienated enough allies, now we're telling South Korea it's not a safe enough place to send some athletes due to regional instability... after our president has basically been flicking matches at the North from his twitter account from beyond the range of Lil Kim's nukes.

These "America first" assholes don't seem to realize that we've always placed America first, the only difference is that in foreign affairs we used to pretend to care about the people we were hegemonying over in order to preserve the Pax Americana... because that is in our farking interest and it just so happens to be in almost everybody else's interest as well.

If the Russians didn't collude with Trump, they should have.
2017-12-07 05:50:43 AM  
28 votes:
Or is it because Lyndsey Vonn has already said she would not make a White House visit?  Or that she said in her mind she represents the American people, not administration?
2017-12-07 06:00:13 AM  
26 votes:

AOW: Meh less they don't wanna play without the Russians, more they don't want glow in the dark athletes....


That would make the Olympic athletes the only people in the world Trump cares about, and that's unlikely.
2017-12-07 06:06:23 AM  
22 votes:
Maybe if 45* would shut up about North Korea on Twitter the diplomats left at the state department might have a shot.
2017-12-07 06:11:19 AM  
19 votes:

electricjebus: Oh for farks sake.  As if we haven't alienated enough allies, now we're telling South Korea it's not a safe enough place to send some athletes due to regional instability... after our president has basically been flicking matches at the North from his twitter account from beyond the range of Lil Kim's nukes.

These "America first" assholes don't seem to realize that we've always placed America first, the only difference is that in foreign affairs we used to pretend to care about the people we were hegemonying over in order to preserve the Pax Americana... because that is in our farking interest and it just so happens to be in almost everybody else's interest as well.

If the Russians didn't collude with Trump, they should have.


They did.  It's painfully obvious to anyone that pays attention.
2017-12-07 06:42:30 AM  
15 votes:
Yeah, if there was any real chance of North Korea attacking the Olympics, no one would be going.

This sounds like President Highbulp submitting to his master, again.
2017-12-07 06:18:05 AM  
13 votes:
Yes, NK would attack its few allies who participate at the Olympics, absolutely guaranteeing their almost immediate destruction with nobody willing to protect them anymore.
2017-12-07 07:57:51 AM  
12 votes:

gar1013: Two things:

1) who cares about the Olympics?  Without USA vs CCCP and BRD vs DDR there's not a good rivalry to create drama.

2) you do realize we've boycotted the Olympics before, right?


1)  I don't care about the Olympics, therefore, nobody else does either.

2)  This one thing happened in the past.  This means something.  I'm making good a good argument!
2017-12-07 06:20:02 AM  
12 votes:
I mean, China is the main reason we haven't already bombed them into nothingness, if they were to also kill Chinese athletes in an attack, literally nobody on the planet would be against an invasion.


There is literally no way NK would be behind any attack, there has to be other motives.
2017-12-07 07:02:58 AM  
11 votes:
Meanwhile, a real head of state would send the atheletes and affect not to be concerned. The sort of strongman that Donny wants to be would send the athletes, and taunt the rival, North Korea, about doing anything about it.

But Donny's just a scaredy cuck.
2017-12-07 06:22:55 AM  
11 votes:

FlyingBacon: Subby, you are fake liberal news.


Found the knob...it goes to 11...
2017-12-07 07:27:53 AM  
10 votes:

Sean VasDeferens: SK is a fairly nasty place on a good day, how the heck did they win hosting the Olympics.

/Whores
//Booze
///Never mind


Same way every country gets to host the Olympics: bribing the committee members.
2017-12-07 06:05:45 AM  
9 votes:
It never ceases to amaze me how few people in Donald Trump's regime have never played Metro 2033: Last Light.

When a Russian tells you that you are going to do something together, you are farked if you play along.
AOW
2017-12-07 05:55:06 AM  
9 votes:
Meh less they don't wanna play without the Russians, more they don't want glow in the dark athletes....
2017-12-07 07:59:36 AM  
8 votes:
Dance, you Russian puppet, dance!
2017-12-07 07:26:02 AM  
8 votes:

Sean VasDeferens: SK is a fairly nasty place on a good day, how the heck did they win hosting the Olympics.

/Whores
//Booze
///Never mind


Perhaps the other host cities are FINALLY seeing what a drain on resources the Olympics are, and how they manage to end up losing money while filling the IOC's coffers in the process. Every. Single. Time. Isn't that right, Rio De Janeiro?
2017-12-07 05:57:40 AM  
8 votes:

Odin's Other Eye: backhand.slap.of.reason: Also, the situation is that the same man who rigged the election for you have North Korea 20 years work of Missile Tech.

He wouldn't do that if he weren't intending for someone to set off a nuke in the United States, at your behest.

Oh Christ, this timeline isn't getting THAT dark, is it?


It has a FEMALE Doctor Who, Trump is Prez, The US became first to have legalized cannabis, The UK swallowed the Trolls Bait good and proper, and there's STILL money to be made from Madeline McCann.

We're not just through the looking glass, it's the Daily Mail's f*cking looking glass.
2017-12-07 05:52:50 AM  
8 votes:

laststarfighter: Or is it because Lyndsey Vonn has already said she would not make a White House visit?  Or that she said in her mind she represents the American people, not administration?


Lindsey Vonn...i'll Be in my bunk...
2017-12-07 05:49:09 AM  
8 votes:
Also, the situation is that the same man who rigged the election for you have North Korea 20 years work of Missile Tech.

He wouldn't do that if he weren't intending for someone to set off a nuke in the United States, at your behest.
2017-12-07 11:29:33 AM  
7 votes:

mrsleep: Still trying to convince yourselves there's a Russia connection?
LOL. The left really has gone loony.
Been a year, and ~$7 million spent on investigation, and still nothing.


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2017-12-07 10:31:15 AM  
7 votes:

mrsleep: Still trying to convince yourselves there's a Russia connection?
LOL. The left really has gone loony.
Been a year, and ~$7 million spent on investigation, and still nothing.


They've already arrested numerous people involved with the administration and two of them have been wearing wires.
2017-12-07 10:28:44 AM  
7 votes:

mrsleep: Still trying to convince yourselves there's a Russia connection?
LOL. The left really has gone loony.
Been a year, and ~$7 million spent on investigation, and still nothing.


But, hillary benghazi benghazi emails!!!!
2017-12-07 08:30:02 AM  
7 votes:

gar1013: Two things:

1) who cares about the Olympics?  Without USA vs CCCP and BRD vs DDR there's not a good rivalry to create drama.

2) you do realize we've boycotted the Olympics before, right?


Two things:

Where is your national pride?  Are you too scared to cheer on American athletes just because they are American?

We boycotted the 1980 Olympics because they were in Moscow, literally the seat of power of our Cold War foe.
This Olympics is being hosted by our ally.  Why do you hate our ally?
2017-12-07 08:00:16 AM  
7 votes:

gar1013: Two things:

1) who cares about the Olympics?  Without USA vs CCCP and BRD vs DDR there's not a good rivalry to create drama.

2) you do realize we've boycotted the Olympics before, right?



1. Lots and lots of people. Which is why it's news.

2. Yes, and it was jackassery then, too. But not nearly as fark-tarded as this.
2017-12-07 07:08:16 AM  
7 votes:

BizarreMan: Maybe if 45* would shut up about North Korea on Twitter the diplomats left at the state department might have a shot.


uh, about that 'state department diplomats' thing... there's been, uh,... things are running a bit different now.
2017-12-07 12:19:57 PM  
6 votes:

skylabdown: I see the regular Fark faux ragers are here getting their daily dose of fake news to fuel their trump rage.

Drew, this is getting ridiculous.


I agree

Your posts are ridiculous
2017-12-07 09:19:50 AM  
6 votes:
I still say the best option is for the Olympic committee to buy an island and declare it an independant competition site, with all participating nations paying a modest honorarium for upkeep and improvement. Let's stop forcing lesser nations to incur massive debt to build an athletic site just to have it fall apart faster than a Trump campaign stage.
2017-12-07 08:26:19 AM  
6 votes:

Muzzleloader: Rapmaster2000: gar1013: Two things:

1) who cares about the Olympics?  Without USA vs CCCP and BRD vs DDR there's not a good rivalry to create drama.

2) you do realize we've boycotted the Olympics before, right?

1)  I don't care about the Olympics, therefore, nobody else does either.

2)  This one thing happened in the past.  This means something.  I'm making good a good argument!

Ratings have  shown that for a long time most americans have been meh about the olympics.
 It was popular when it was a proxy fight between democracy vs communism.
 Communism lost a long time ago, and most of those old fans are old or dead.
  It has always been politicized.
People were saying the soviets and their client states should be barred since 1918 or so due to their athletes being subsidized by the state.
  Meaning they were not in fact amatuers, but paid pros.
  That is why the hockey team win in 1980 was such a big deal.
   Our college kids were playing against what amounted to an NHL all star team that had been teammates for years.
      You could make the argument that the russians have always cheated, one way or another.
    I doubt seriously a large percentage of americans care.


It still outperforms all other broadcast when it's on, it was worth a billion dollars to NBC, and I can guarantee that if we boycott the games in allied nation because we're afraid of North Korea, people will care.
2017-12-07 08:09:49 AM  
6 votes:

AOW: Meh less they don't wanna play without the Russians, more they don't want glow in the dark athletes....


Odd that it was never a concern until the Russians were kicked out.
2017-12-07 07:48:49 AM  
6 votes:
See.

From years of looking at internet comments, I've learned that whenever a sentence begins with "See", or "How come" then the rest of the sentence will be really stupid.

I'm impressed that somebody has found a way to simplify that.
2017-12-07 07:34:33 AM  
6 votes:
All those ex-pats, military dependents, and tens of thousands of military in S.K. are still ok for cannon fodder.
2017-12-07 07:16:06 AM  
6 votes:

wearetheworld: Alphax: wearetheworld: The hyperbole in this thread is of Olympic proportion.

Odd, I don't see a trace of hyperbole anywhere... oh, I remember your handle.  I've never seen you say something true.

See.


If that's your idea of verbal judo, it's weak.
2017-12-07 06:03:08 AM  
6 votes:
Donald is worried they might defect.
2017-12-07 11:25:21 AM  
5 votes:

grumpfuff: HotWingConspiracy: mrsleep: Still trying to convince yourselves there's a Russia connection?
LOL. The left really has gone loony.
Been a year, and ~$7 million spent on investigation, and still nothing.

They've already arrested numerous people involved with the administration and two of them have been wearing wires.

Dude, what part of "NOTHINGBURGER!" do you not understand?

Sure it's piled high with extra patties, lots of cheese, and all sorts of toppings, but NOTHINGBURGER!


All those ties and contacts and meetings with Russians are just coincidences! All 100+ of them!  And we always seem to lie about them, fail to disclose them, or forget them, because there's nothing to them whatsoever.
2017-12-07 11:02:39 AM  
5 votes:
Christ, what a Russian puppet.
2017-12-07 10:54:36 AM  
5 votes:
So Nikki Haley is concerned about NK nuking a couple of hundred US Olympic athletes, but not about the thousands of US Military personnel and their families? (never mind the millions of South Koreans)

This is Trump saying "I'm with my Vladdy"
2017-12-07 07:57:58 AM  
5 votes:
FTFA: According to a report, Nikki Haley, the U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations, is reportedly saying she's not certain we should send our athletes to the Olympics.

The terrorists have already won. Seriously, man-up you frkking pussy!
2017-12-07 07:21:25 AM  
5 votes:
Makes sense.  Trump plans to be at war with North Korea by next year.
2017-12-07 07:13:47 AM  
5 votes:

Alphax: wearetheworld: The hyperbole in this thread is of Olympic proportion.

Odd, I don't see a trace of hyperbole anywhere... oh, I remember your handle.  I've never seen you say something true.


See.
2017-12-07 06:56:50 AM  
5 votes:
The hyperbole in this thread is of Olympic proportion.
2017-12-07 06:29:47 AM  
5 votes:
Are US athletes to stupid to make up their own mind whether they want to go or not?
2017-12-07 12:00:33 PM  
4 votes:
I have to say, I never thought I'd see the day where the IOC has more of an ethical spine than the U.S. government.  Carry on.
2017-12-07 11:02:54 AM  
4 votes:

laststarfighter: Or is it because Lyndsey Vonn has already said she would not make a White House visit?  Or that she said in her mind she represents the American people, not administration?


This. The ambassador's unofficial-but-still-tweetable-hallway​-aside-made-to-a-FOX-reporter approach​is the White House's way of bossing athletes around without taking responsibility for it. It is just telling athletes to be obedient or they won't get to do the thing they have been preparing for all their lives.  Just reason number 5,672 to loathe Trump.
2017-12-07 10:40:39 AM  
4 votes:

mrsleep: Still trying to convince yourselves there's a Russia connection?
LOL. The left really has gone loony.
Been a year, and ~$7 million spent on investigation, and still nothing.


The grand jury seems pretty convinced.
2017-12-07 08:25:33 AM  
4 votes:

starsrift: Meanwhile, a real head of state would send the atheletes and affect not to be concerned. The sort of strongman that Donny wants to be would send the athletes, and taunt the rival, North Korea, about doing anything about it.

But Donny's just a scaredy cuck.


Right wing citing Jimmy Carter's decision not to send athletes to 1980 Moscow games in 3...2...
2017-12-07 07:48:08 AM  
4 votes:

SillBinger: I mean, China is the main reason we haven't already bombed them into nothingness, if they were to also kill Chinese athletes in an attack, literally nobody on the planet would be against an invasion.


There is literally no way NK would be behind any attack, there has to be other motives.


And by invasion you mean prompt and utter destruction from the air followed by humanitarian relief for the survivors right?

Because I don't think a blatant nuclear attack on the Olympics by DPRK would result in a land invasion.

In any case, too many people forget that Kim isn't insane. He's despotic and wacky, but he's not a Bond villain. He's a threat to the world order, certainly, but he's not going to decide to commit suicide for no reason.
2017-12-07 06:59:29 AM  
4 votes:

wearetheworld: The hyperbole in this thread is of Olympic proportion.


Odd, I don't see a trace of hyperbole anywhere... oh, I remember your handle.  I've never seen you say something true.
2017-12-07 06:16:12 AM  
4 votes:
Oh here's a topic that our dear leader can wrap his head around, athletes and the displays of patriotism. *head desk*
2017-12-07 06:13:26 AM  
4 votes:

backhand.slap.of.reason: They did.  It's painfully obvious to anyone that pays attention.


Ya don't say...
2017-12-07 08:06:28 PM  
3 votes:

kling_klang_bed: Sean VasDeferens: SK is a fairly nasty place on a good day, how the heck did they win hosting the Olympics.

/Whores
//Booze
///Never mind

Perhaps the other host cities are FINALLY seeing what a drain on resources the Olympics are, and how they manage to end up losing money while filling the IOC's coffers in the process. Every. Single. Time. Isn't that right, Rio De Janeiro Montreal?


FTFY--it's actually been an issue at least from the 70s onward (apparently the only Olympics that has been run in the past 40 years that's come out in the black was the LA Olympics in 1984, and McDonald's might argue THAT one with you what with the minor "US wins everything and probably everyone in the US won at least three Big Macs apiece" thing being the direct inspiration for certain Simpsons eps). Hell, Montreal (in Quebec, you know, Canada, you know, an actual developed nation that can afford Nice Things like infrastructure and provincial-level universal healthcare coverage and inexpensive college) only paid off the debt incurred from the 1976 Olympiad in 2006.
2017-12-07 01:00:18 PM  
3 votes:

BizarreMan: Maybe if 45* would shut up about North Korea on Twitter the diplomats left at the state department might have a shot.


What Diplomats?!? Rumpledtaintskin is making sure we don't have any Diplomats assigned anywhere!
2017-12-07 10:22:55 AM  
3 votes:

Ketchuponsteak: Are US athletes to stupid to make up their own mind whether they want to go or not?


Not so much stupid, but broke.  Go on your own, and pay for everything, including security, or see what your national governing group will cover?  My kid is just beginning to seriously consider an Olympic run, and the dues to join his particular group are not cheap, but they cover a bunch of stuff like liability insurance at the venues, and security and transportation of the team to venues, etc.  We like watching the Olympics on TV, and had no idea all the stuff going on in the background until 1996 and being in Atlanta.  IIRC, in the 2016 Games, there were a few unattached athletes from countries like Sudan, Somalia, maybe a few Arab places as well.  Those athletes had it rough getting there and hanging in there.  The Americans should go no matter what.
2017-12-07 09:48:07 AM  
3 votes:
Home of the brave, my ass.
2017-12-07 08:52:56 AM  
3 votes:
Muzzleloader:

Ratings have  shown that for a long time most americans have been meh about the olympics.

    I doubt seriously a large percentage of americans care.


He didn't say "americans", he said "nobody".

3.6 billion people watched the Olympics worldwide and numbers remain high.  I'm having trouble finding stats for 2016 but Gallup says 48% of Americans planned to watch the 2016 Olympics.

"The 2012 Summer Games in London were the most-watched event in U.S. TV history, pulling in 219 million American viewers over the two-plus weeks of coverage. (https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/li​ve​-feed/tv-ratings-rio-olympics-opening-​ceremony-how-many-watched-917393 ).

There are 3 threads on the Olympics alone today.  For something that NOBODY cares about, it sure seems like a lot of people care about it.

We get this sentiment in every Olympic year.  I suppose some people don't actually care about sports, they just like the Olympics for the dick wagging.  I get that, but the amount of Americans who will watch the Olympics because they like sports is something north of "nobody".
2017-12-07 08:18:15 AM  
3 votes:

Rapmaster2000: gar1013: Two things:

1) who cares about the Olympics?  Without USA vs CCCP and BRD vs DDR there's not a good rivalry to create drama.

2) you do realize we've boycotted the Olympics before, right?

1)  I don't care about the Olympics, therefore, nobody else does either.

2)  This one thing happened in the past.  This means something.  I'm making good a good argument!


Ratings have  shown that for a long time most americans have been meh about the olympics.
 It was popular when it was a proxy fight between democracy vs communism.
 Communism lost a long time ago, and most of those old fans are old or dead.
  It has always been politicized.
People were saying the soviets and their client states should be barred since 1918 or so due to their athletes being subsidized by the state.
  Meaning they were not in fact amatuers, but paid pros.
  That is why the hockey team win in 1980 was such a big deal.
   Our college kids were playing against what amounted to an NHL all star team that had been teammates for years.
      You could make the argument that the russians have always cheated, one way or another.
    I doubt seriously a large percentage of americans care.
2017-12-07 07:11:25 AM  
3 votes:

Alphax: Yeah, if there was any real chance of North Korea attacking the Olympics, no one would be going.


On the other hand...if you see the Chinese team packing their bags on day two - call the airline and see if you can change your flight.
2017-12-07 12:00:32 PM  
2 votes:

AOW: Meh less they don't wanna play without the Russians, more they don't want glow in the dark athletes....


Gonna have to erase that line in the anthem then I guess.
"Home of the brave" my arse!!
2017-12-07 10:40:09 AM  
2 votes:

HotWingConspiracy: mrsleep: Still trying to convince yourselves there's a Russia connection?
LOL. The left really has gone loony.
Been a year, and ~$7 million spent on investigation, and still nothing.

They've already arrested numerous people involved with the administration and two of them have been wearing wires.


Dude, what part of "NOTHINGBURGER!" do you not understand?

Sure it's piled high with extra patties, lots of cheese, and all sorts of toppings, but NOTHINGBURGER!
2017-12-07 10:06:24 AM  
2 votes:
"hurrr who cares, not like we're snubbing our nose at a close ally while simultaneously conveniently throwing Russia a bone"

fark. you.
2017-12-07 09:48:32 AM  
2 votes:

Muzzleloader: chuggernaught: gar1013: Two things:

1) who cares about the Olympics?  Without USA vs CCCP and BRD vs DDR there's not a good rivalry to create drama.

2) you do realize we've boycotted the Olympics before, right?

Two things:

Where is your national pride?  Are you too scared to cheer on American athletes just because they are American?

We boycotted the 1980 Olympics because they were in Moscow, literally the seat of power of our Cold War foe.
This Olympics is being hosted by our ally.  Why do you hate our ally?

Actually, we boycotted the moscow olympics because the soviet union invaded afghanistan the previous december.
    People screamed at carter for politicizing the games, but they had always been political.
  Our way is better, even in sports, should be their motto, it would be far more honest.


Sending American athletes to the Soviet Union at the height of the Cold War, just one Olympics removed from Munich probably was the right call.
2017-12-07 09:46:12 AM  
2 votes:

brap: Oh, this is just farking great, a lifetime of dedicating myself to the noble art of Equestrian Dressage, straight down the shiatter.


Pretty sure they weren't going to have dressage outside. In the winter. In Korea.
2017-12-07 09:30:42 AM  
2 votes:

chuggernaught: gar1013: Two things:

1) who cares about the Olympics?  Without USA vs CCCP and BRD vs DDR there's not a good rivalry to create drama.

2) you do realize we've boycotted the Olympics before, right?

Two things:

Where is your national pride?  Are you too scared to cheer on American athletes just because they are American?

We boycotted the 1980 Olympics because they were in Moscow, literally the seat of power of our Cold War foe.
This Olympics is being hosted by our ally.  Why do you hate our ally?


Actually, we boycotted the moscow olympics because the soviet union invaded afghanistan the previous december.
    People screamed at carter for politicizing the games, but they had always been political.
  Our way is better, even in sports, should be their motto, it would be far more honest.
2017-12-07 09:26:33 AM  
2 votes:

skylabdown: Drew, this is getting ridiculous.


Yeah, it is. Dumbf*cks can just post whatever they want, but it's ok, because his dumbf*uck friends might be reading said dumbf*ckery.
2017-12-07 08:34:29 PM  
1 vote:

shroom: I have to say, I never thought I'd see the day where the IOC has more of an ethical spine than the U.S. government.  Carry on.


At this rate FIFA has more of an ethical spine than the present misadministration.  Just sayin'.
2017-12-07 08:34:22 PM  
1 vote:

FlyingBacon: Subby, you are fake liberal news.


How is it fake if she actually said it? Not that she has any authority over whether we send athletes to the Olympics. I don't think even the president can stop athletes from attending the Olympics. he can say they don't represent the country, but he has no legal authority over the athletes attending and competing.
2017-12-07 08:32:34 PM  
1 vote:

Ketchuponsteak: cherryl taggart: Ketchuponsteak: Are US athletes to stupid to make up their own mind whether they want to go or not?

Not so much stupid, but broke.  Go on your own, and pay for everything, including security, or see what your national governing group will cover?  My kid is just beginning to seriously consider an Olympic run, and the dues to join his particular group are not cheap, but they cover a bunch of stuff like liability insurance at the venues, and security and transportation of the team to venues, etc.  We like watching the Olympics on TV, and had no idea all the stuff going on in the background until 1996 and being in Atlanta.  IIRC, in the 2016 Games, there were a few unattached athletes from countries like Sudan, Somalia, maybe a few Arab places as well.  Those athletes had it rough getting there and hanging in there.  The Americans should go no matter what.

That's not what I meant.

Why not just let athletes make the decision on their own accord?

I assume once you made the US olympic team, the money for staying in Korea isn't an issue. Security ought to be paid for by the South Korean government btw., as long as you don't leave the designated areas at least.


Erm, here's a few things you might not have thought about.

a) The training to qualify isn't cheap, and isn't just the physical training but things like "regular piss tests to make sure you're not doping" (this is normally covered by the national Olympic Committee before the athlete gets to come to the Olympics--hence why Russia is functionally banned, its national Olympic Committee got decertified after the doping mess in Sochi and the IOC is now desperately pulling all Russian medals awarded there), the liability insurance, and so on.  This is even BEFORE one gets to the Olympics.

In general, if there is a functioning Olympic Committee for your country they are the ones who not only handle this but handle the process of working with the IOC to see which players will qualify for their nation's Olympic team and whom to extend formal invitations to (yes, every Olympic athlete is actually formally invited to the Games; this invitation is normally delegated to national OCs, and for those few cases like people in countries with no functioning national Olympic Committee the IOC sends invitations directly).

The national Olympic Committee and IOC also work with the authorities in the host nation to get things sorted like visas (yes, typically athletes have to have a specific visa to even enter a host nation as an Olympic athlete--this includes in some cases working with multiple governments which are officially at states of war with each other or which do not legally recognise the other's government to allow participants to even enter (special arrangements are being done in this regard with North Korea's Olympic team to allow them to enter South Korea for the Pyeongchang games, and similar arrangements have been done with China in past to allow the Taiwanese team (which competes under "Chinese Taipei") to compete in the 2008 Beijing Olympics).  This is doubly important in the case of those participants who are from countries without a national Olympic Committee and who are participating as "Unaligned Athletes"--many of these participants have historically been from nations without wide recognition, from nations which are banned from the Olympic Movement (either due to cheating or extreme human rights abuses like apartheid or frank genocide) who are under international sanctions programs, from nations without a functioning government, or whom are functionally stateless and may actually be competing in the Games under UN travel documents provided in lieu of passports to stateless persons.

Also, each host nation DOES provide and pay for its own security--not the IOC.  (And this is very expensive since the Munich Massacre in 1972 and the Army of God terrorist attack on the Atlanta Olympics in 1996 (yes, the US has had an Olympics attacked by a dominionist terrorist group--Eric Rudolph was a known member of the Army of God and was also linked to Army of God terrorist acts against women's clinics and LGBT nightclubs).  Much of the expense for the 1976 Olympics in Montreal, for the Rio Olympics, and pretty much every Olympics in the past 40 years and especially in the past twenty or so have been security-related, particularly aimed at preventing a terrorist attack by the likes of Daesh against the Olympics.)  I would in fact argue that Daesh attacking the Olympics is more of a risk than the North Koreans, and even THAT is a negligible risk nowadays.
2017-12-07 07:10:41 PM  
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Alphax: Yeah, if there was any real chance of North Korea attacking the Olympics, no one would be going.

This sounds like President Highbulp submitting to his master, again.


This.

For the record, there have been cases where the Olympics have been first moved, then cancelled, due to war.  The Olympics were cancelled during World War I and World War II, and the 1940 Summer Olumpics was originally meant to be in Tokyo (who ultimately cancelled it because they were invading half of Asia at that point), after which the IOC moved it to the second runner-up in Helsinki (where it ended up being cancelled due to the Winter War), after which it finally got cancelled altogether.  Likewise the 1940 Winter Olympics was originally awarded to Sapporo, Japan (same deal, pretty much cancelled because Japanese government wanted to spend money on invading half of Asia instead), then re-awarded to St. Moritz, Switzerland (who eventually cancelled their bid because the Swiss Olympic Committee couldn't get their shiat together, then reawarded again at the last minute to Garmisch-Partenkirchen, Germany...and then the Germans invaded Poland, and pretty much the entire concept of having a damn Olympics went out the door altogether.

This is also NOT the first time we've had to worry about North Korea during an Olympics!  There was actually a Summer Olympics in Seoul back in 1988 (you know, Seoul.  Smallish city of about twelve million people that is the primary target of the North Koreans should they decide to try to make all of Korea Best Korea.  Little town that pretty much was expected to get bombed down to the bottom of the earth's crust in the first 10 minutes of any exchange, and that was BEFORE Best Korea had nukes.  Yeah.  That Seoul.)  In the Cold War, yet, at a point where North Korea was doing as many threats if not more than now (including multiple invasion tunnels discovered in that period), in an area that (thanks to old Warsaw Pact and NATO agreements back then as well as pacts Best Korea had with the Chinese) if North Korea invaded pretty much guaranteed global thermonuclear war.  I'll also note that Seoul is considerably closer to the DMZ than Pyeongchang is (Seoul is only about 50 miles from the DMZ, enough that the South Korean government has occasionally pondered moving the seat of national government).

If the IOC wasn't worried about Seoul, they're not going to be worried about Pyeongchang.  If they WERE worried about Pyeongchang, they'd be moving the shiat to Munich (which was runner-up) or (more likely) they'd cancel the Games entirely.

I have to think it's the Suka In The White House throwing a hissy over the fact that the Khuilo in Moscow pretty much got told that the Russian OC is a bunch of Cheating Cheaters and thus isn't allowed in the Games.

Alas, I also expect eventually the US is going to be banned from the Games and Paris will end up getting the Games in 2024 if there's not a 180 done with the direction of the country...probably for similar reasons that have led to Germany being banned twice (for the better part of a decade over World War I with the rest of the Axis Powers, then in 1948 along with Japan over World War II and the human rights abuses from those countries) and what got South Africa and Rhodesia banned (apartheid teams--Rhodesia actually tried to hide the fact its team was an apartheid Olympic team).  Yes, the IOC CAN ban your country from the Olympics if your country is a festering shiatheel of a racist regime and pretty much everyone else is threatening to boycott the Games if the Festering Shiatheel Racist Regime shows up (I actually suspect a threat of a mass boycott IS why they banned Russia ultimately).  At least NBC won't fark it up then...though admittedly with the loss of net neutrality that VPN to watch the Beeb or CBC coverage is gonna get expensive...
2017-12-07 11:51:23 AM  
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I just want to watch women's curling.

/HARD!!!!
2017-12-07 11:19:41 AM  
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grumpfuff: HotWingConspiracy: mrsleep: Still trying to convince yourselves there's a Russia connection?
LOL. The left really has gone loony.
Been a year, and ~$7 million spent on investigation, and still nothing.

They've already arrested numerous people involved with the administration and two of them have been wearing wires.

Dude, what part of "NOTHINGBURGER!" do you not understand?

Sure it's piled high with extra patties, lots of cheese, and all sorts of toppings, but NOTHINGBURGER!


The ex-National Security Adviser pleading guilty and rolling on people is just politics as usual.
2017-12-07 11:18:11 AM  
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Since when is it up to her?

I don't give a fark about the Olympics, so I don't care either way, but neither this dumb biatch nor her farking stupid boss have much of a say on this, short of some sort of official order that nobody from the U.S. is allowed to go to the Korean peninsula.

Which would be super-popular, I'm sure, LOL.
2017-12-07 10:49:58 AM  
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mrsleep: Still trying to convince yourselves there's a Russia connection?
LOL. The left really has gone loony.
Been a year, and ~$7 million spent on investigation, and still nothing.


The ones who have already pled seem convinced.

Now toddle back to Big Orange Daddy. If you use extra slobber you might be promoted from making Little Donny Great Again to Putin's cloaca-cleaner
2017-12-07 10:30:25 AM  
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I would like to see a Trump-themed video of "Back in the USSR" by The Beatles.
2017-12-07 10:27:44 AM  
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stoli n coke: Muzzleloader: chuggernaught: gar1013: Two things:

1) who cares about the Olympics?  Without USA vs CCCP and BRD vs DDR there's not a good rivalry to create drama.

2) you do realize we've boycotted the Olympics before, right?

Two things:

Where is your national pride?  Are you too scared to cheer on American athletes just because they are American?

We boycotted the 1980 Olympics because they were in Moscow, literally the seat of power of our Cold War foe.
This Olympics is being hosted by our ally.  Why do you hate our ally?

Actually, we boycotted the moscow olympics because the soviet union invaded afghanistan the previous december.
    People screamed at carter for politicizing the games, but they had always been political.
  Our way is better, even in sports, should be their motto, it would be far more honest.

Sending American athletes to the Soviet Union at the height of the Cold War, just one Olympics removed from Munich probably was the right call.


The Soviet Union would have kept them safe. The 80s boycot was purely a political decision.

Also, the Soviet Union didn't invade Afghanistan. Its not called invading when the sitting government asks you to come, whether you happened to like them or not. Under the Soviet Union, and their proxy government, girls got to go get an equal education and all that jazz. I doubt that's the case with the USA now controlling the same portion of the nation.
2017-12-07 10:16:11 AM  
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BizarreMan: Maybe if 45* would shut up about North Korea on Twitter the diplomats left at the state department might have a shot.


Most of them are gone
2017-12-07 08:53:49 AM  
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skylabdown: I see the regular Fark faux ragers are here getting their daily dose of fake news to fuel their trump rage.

Drew, this is getting ridiculous.


Sad!
2017-12-07 08:51:33 AM  
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chuggernaught: Odds that the IOC will relent and Russian athletes are reinstated?

I'd say good.


I'd say absolutely zero because while the Russian media is in full-on 'this is ridiculous it's all lies there was no doping everyone just hates us" mode, Putin himself said fine, whatever, whoever wants to go compete as an individual, knock yourself out
2017-12-07 08:41:06 AM  
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I see the regular Fark faux ragers are here getting their daily dose of fake news to fuel their trump rage.

Drew, this is getting ridiculous.
2017-12-07 08:26:18 AM  
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Per Nick Zaccardi at NBC Sports: "USOC spokesperson on Nikki Haley comments: "We have not had any discussions, either internally or with our government partners, about the possibility of not taking teams to the 2018 Olympic and Paralympic Winter Games. We plan on supporting two full delegations in PyeongChang."
2017-12-07 07:57:48 AM  
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Look, we will probably be at war by then if Trump is still in office and we will have had to bring back the draft. Many of those Olympians will be going over there, just for a slightly different competition.
2017-12-07 07:45:40 AM  
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2017-12-07 07:40:35 AM  
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2017-12-07 06:49:36 AM  
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Alphax: Yeah, if there was any real chance of North Korea attacking the Olympics, no one would be going.

This sounds like President Highbulp submitting to his master, again.


With Russia not going, they might just be helping North Korea attack.  Those rocket parts may need replacing.  They seem to like a like to do War Stuff around the Olympics.
AOW
2017-12-07 06:22:10 AM  
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backhand.slap.of.reason: AOW: Meh less they don't wanna play without the Russians, more they don't want glow in the dark athletes....

That would make the Olympic athletes the only people in the world Trump cares about, and that's unlikely.


Haven't seen this on Trumps twitter feed, just from the UN ambassador, so what makes you think Trump even knows about the Olympics?
2017-12-07 06:20:46 AM  
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phrawgh: Where's the complaint from some knob about a political thread on the main page?


Why's there a political thread on the main page?


You can thank my knob later
2017-12-07 06:18:35 AM  
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Subby, you are fake liberal news.
2017-12-07 06:11:02 AM  
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If that were the actual case, and they were truly worried about NK, simply put Dennis Rodman there as a human shield. Problem solved!
2017-12-07 05:52:29 AM  
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backhand.slap.of.reason: Also, the situation is that the same man who rigged the election for you have North Korea 20 years work of Missile Tech.

He wouldn't do that if he weren't intending for someone to set off a nuke in the United States, at your behest.


Oh Christ, this timeline isn't getting THAT dark, is it?
 
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