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2017-12-07 08:00:16 AM  

gar1013: Two things:

1) who cares about the Olympics?  Without USA vs CCCP and BRD vs DDR there's not a good rivalry to create drama.

2) you do realize we've boycotted the Olympics before, right?



1. Lots and lots of people. Which is why it's news.

2. Yes, and it was jackassery then, too. But not nearly as fark-tarded as this.
 
2017-12-07 08:05:24 AM  
The lighting of the Olympic fire is seen by Best Korea as a missile launch
 
2017-12-07 08:08:11 AM  
Odds that the IOC will relent and Russian athletes are reinstated?

I'd say good.
 
2017-12-07 08:09:49 AM  

AOW: Meh less they don't wanna play without the Russians, more they don't want glow in the dark athletes....


Odd that it was never a concern until the Russians were kicked out.
 
2017-12-07 08:18:15 AM  

Rapmaster2000: gar1013: Two things:

1) who cares about the Olympics?  Without USA vs CCCP and BRD vs DDR there's not a good rivalry to create drama.

2) you do realize we've boycotted the Olympics before, right?

1)  I don't care about the Olympics, therefore, nobody else does either.

2)  This one thing happened in the past.  This means something.  I'm making good a good argument!


Ratings have  shown that for a long time most americans have been meh about the olympics.
 It was popular when it was a proxy fight between democracy vs communism.
 Communism lost a long time ago, and most of those old fans are old or dead.
  It has always been politicized.
People were saying the soviets and their client states should be barred since 1918 or so due to their athletes being subsidized by the state.
  Meaning they were not in fact amatuers, but paid pros.
  That is why the hockey team win in 1980 was such a big deal.
   Our college kids were playing against what amounted to an NHL all star team that had been teammates for years.
      You could make the argument that the russians have always cheated, one way or another.
    I doubt seriously a large percentage of americans care.
 
2017-12-07 08:19:00 AM  
It's unlikely Kim would attack the Olympics but North Korea has been known to kidnap and/or assassinate people(highly unlikely they'd do that either but then I never thought Trump had a chance of being elected).
 
2017-12-07 08:25:33 AM  

starsrift: Meanwhile, a real head of state would send the atheletes and affect not to be concerned. The sort of strongman that Donny wants to be would send the athletes, and taunt the rival, North Korea, about doing anything about it.

But Donny's just a scaredy cuck.


Right wing citing Jimmy Carter's decision not to send athletes to 1980 Moscow games in 3...2...
 
2017-12-07 08:26:18 AM  
Per Nick Zaccardi at NBC Sports: "USOC spokesperson on Nikki Haley comments: "We have not had any discussions, either internally or with our government partners, about the possibility of not taking teams to the 2018 Olympic and Paralympic Winter Games. We plan on supporting two full delegations in PyeongChang."
 
2017-12-07 08:26:19 AM  

Muzzleloader: Rapmaster2000: gar1013: Two things:

1) who cares about the Olympics?  Without USA vs CCCP and BRD vs DDR there's not a good rivalry to create drama.

2) you do realize we've boycotted the Olympics before, right?

1)  I don't care about the Olympics, therefore, nobody else does either.

2)  This one thing happened in the past.  This means something.  I'm making good a good argument!

Ratings have  shown that for a long time most americans have been meh about the olympics.
 It was popular when it was a proxy fight between democracy vs communism.
 Communism lost a long time ago, and most of those old fans are old or dead.
  It has always been politicized.
People were saying the soviets and their client states should be barred since 1918 or so due to their athletes being subsidized by the state.
  Meaning they were not in fact amatuers, but paid pros.
  That is why the hockey team win in 1980 was such a big deal.
   Our college kids were playing against what amounted to an NHL all star team that had been teammates for years.
      You could make the argument that the russians have always cheated, one way or another.
    I doubt seriously a large percentage of americans care.


It still outperforms all other broadcast when it's on, it was worth a billion dollars to NBC, and I can guarantee that if we boycott the games in allied nation because we're afraid of North Korea, people will care.
 
2017-12-07 08:30:02 AM  

gar1013: Two things:

1) who cares about the Olympics?  Without USA vs CCCP and BRD vs DDR there's not a good rivalry to create drama.

2) you do realize we've boycotted the Olympics before, right?


Two things:

Where is your national pride?  Are you too scared to cheer on American athletes just because they are American?

We boycotted the 1980 Olympics because they were in Moscow, literally the seat of power of our Cold War foe.
This Olympics is being hosted by our ally.  Why do you hate our ally?
 
2017-12-07 08:31:31 AM  

dukeblue219: Because I don't think a blatant nuclear attack on the Olympics by DPRK would result in a land invasion.


That would be a classic blunder.
 
2017-12-07 08:41:06 AM  
I see the regular Fark faux ragers are here getting their daily dose of fake news to fuel their trump rage.

Drew, this is getting ridiculous.
 
2017-12-07 08:45:10 AM  

Rapmaster2000: See.

From years of looking at internet comments, I've learned that whenever a sentence begins with "See", or "How come" then the rest of the sentence will be really stupid.

I'm impressed that somebody has found a way to simplify that.


You can tell by the pixels?
 
2017-12-07 08:46:21 AM  

skylabdown: I see the regular Fark faux ragers are here getting their daily dose of fake news to fuel their trump rage.

Drew, this is getting ridiculous.


This Just In : People are morons
 
2017-12-07 08:51:33 AM  

chuggernaught: Odds that the IOC will relent and Russian athletes are reinstated?

I'd say good.


I'd say absolutely zero because while the Russian media is in full-on 'this is ridiculous it's all lies there was no doping everyone just hates us" mode, Putin himself said fine, whatever, whoever wants to go compete as an individual, knock yourself out
 
2017-12-07 08:52:56 AM  
Muzzleloader:

Ratings have  shown that for a long time most americans have been meh about the olympics.

    I doubt seriously a large percentage of americans care.


He didn't say "americans", he said "nobody".

3.6 billion people watched the Olympics worldwide and numbers remain high.  I'm having trouble finding stats for 2016 but Gallup says 48% of Americans planned to watch the 2016 Olympics.

"The 2012 Summer Games in London were the most-watched event in U.S. TV history, pulling in 219 million American viewers over the two-plus weeks of coverage. (https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/li​ve​-feed/tv-ratings-rio-olympics-opening-​ceremony-how-many-watched-917393 ).

There are 3 threads on the Olympics alone today.  For something that NOBODY cares about, it sure seems like a lot of people care about it.

We get this sentiment in every Olympic year.  I suppose some people don't actually care about sports, they just like the Olympics for the dick wagging.  I get that, but the amount of Americans who will watch the Olympics because they like sports is something north of "nobody".
 
2017-12-07 08:53:49 AM  

skylabdown: I see the regular Fark faux ragers are here getting their daily dose of fake news to fuel their trump rage.

Drew, this is getting ridiculous.


Sad!
 
2017-12-07 09:08:48 AM  

Sean VasDeferens: SK is a fairly nasty place on a good day, how the heck did they win hosting the Olympics.

/Whores
//Booze
///Never mind


The powers-that-be in rising nations who want to showcase themselves to the world pay better bribes to the IOC than do the powers-that-be in developed, mature powers who have nothing to prove.
 
2017-12-07 09:12:48 AM  
Oh, this is just farking great, a lifetime of dedicating myself to the noble art of Equestrian Dressage, straight down the shiatter.
 
2017-12-07 09:19:50 AM  
I still say the best option is for the Olympic committee to buy an island and declare it an independant competition site, with all participating nations paying a modest honorarium for upkeep and improvement. Let's stop forcing lesser nations to incur massive debt to build an athletic site just to have it fall apart faster than a Trump campaign stage.
 
2017-12-07 09:20:24 AM  

brap: Oh, this is just farking great, a lifetime of dedicating myself to the noble art of Equestrian Dressage, straight down the shiatter.


There's always Vienna.  Or the Charreada.
 
2017-12-07 09:26:14 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: Muzzleloader: Rapmaster2000: gar1013: Two things:

1) who cares about the Olympics?  Without USA vs CCCP and BRD vs DDR there's not a good rivalry to create drama.

2) you do realize we've boycotted the Olympics before, right?

1)  I don't care about the Olympics, therefore, nobody else does either.

2)  This one thing happened in the past.  This means something.  I'm making good a good argument!

Ratings have  shown that for a long time most americans have been meh about the olympics.
 It was popular when it was a proxy fight between democracy vs communism.
 Communism lost a long time ago, and most of those old fans are old or dead.
  It has always been politicized.
People were saying the soviets and their client states should be barred since 1918 or so due to their athletes being subsidized by the state.
  Meaning they were not in fact amatuers, but paid pros.
  That is why the hockey team win in 1980 was such a big deal.
   Our college kids were playing against what amounted to an NHL all star team that had been teammates for years.
      You could make the argument that the russians have always cheated, one way or another.
    I doubt seriously a large percentage of americans care.

It still outperforms all other broadcast when it's on, it was worth a billion dollars to NBC, and I can guarantee that if we boycott the games in allied nation because we're afraid of North Korea, people will care.


All 15 people on the planet that are stupid enough to think it is because we are scared of NK, maybe.
     Everyone else will look at it as donnie just being putins biatch.
 
2017-12-07 09:26:33 AM  

skylabdown: Drew, this is getting ridiculous.


Yeah, it is. Dumbf*cks can just post whatever they want, but it's ok, because his dumbf*uck friends might be reading said dumbf*ckery.
 
2017-12-07 09:30:42 AM  

chuggernaught: gar1013: Two things:

1) who cares about the Olympics?  Without USA vs CCCP and BRD vs DDR there's not a good rivalry to create drama.

2) you do realize we've boycotted the Olympics before, right?

Two things:

Where is your national pride?  Are you too scared to cheer on American athletes just because they are American?

We boycotted the 1980 Olympics because they were in Moscow, literally the seat of power of our Cold War foe.
This Olympics is being hosted by our ally.  Why do you hate our ally?


Actually, we boycotted the moscow olympics because the soviet union invaded afghanistan the previous december.
    People screamed at carter for politicizing the games, but they had always been political.
  Our way is better, even in sports, should be their motto, it would be far more honest.
 
2017-12-07 09:43:36 AM  

Ketchuponsteak: Are US athletes to stupid to make up their own mind whether they want to go or not?


"To stupid"?
 
2017-12-07 09:45:44 AM  

Muzzleloader: HotWingConspiracy: Muzzleloader: Rapmaster2000: gar1013: Two things:

1) who cares about the Olympics?  Without USA vs CCCP and BRD vs DDR there's not a good rivalry to create drama.

2) you do realize we've boycotted the Olympics before, right?

1)  I don't care about the Olympics, therefore, nobody else does either.

2)  This one thing happened in the past.  This means something.  I'm making good a good argument!

Ratings have  shown that for a long time most americans have been meh about the olympics.
 It was popular when it was a proxy fight between democracy vs communism.
 Communism lost a long time ago, and most of those old fans are old or dead.
  It has always been politicized.
People were saying the soviets and their client states should be barred since 1918 or so due to their athletes being subsidized by the state.
  Meaning they were not in fact amatuers, but paid pros.
  That is why the hockey team win in 1980 was such a big deal.
   Our college kids were playing against what amounted to an NHL all star team that had been teammates for years.
      You could make the argument that the russians have always cheated, one way or another.
    I doubt seriously a large percentage of americans care.

It still outperforms all other broadcast when it's on, it was worth a billion dollars to NBC, and I can guarantee that if we boycott the games in allied nation because we're afraid of North Korea, people will care.

All 15 people on the planet that are stupid enough to think it is because we are scared of NK, maybe.
     Everyone else will look at it as donnie just being putins biatch.


And in your mind that means they won't care?
 
2017-12-07 09:45:54 AM  

brap: Oh, this is just farking great, a lifetime of dedicating myself to the noble art of Equestrian Dressage, straight down the shiatter.


Mitt, is that you?
 
2017-12-07 09:46:12 AM  

brap: Oh, this is just farking great, a lifetime of dedicating myself to the noble art of Equestrian Dressage, straight down the shiatter.


Pretty sure they weren't going to have dressage outside. In the winter. In Korea.
 
2017-12-07 09:48:07 AM  
Home of the brave, my ass.
 
2017-12-07 09:48:32 AM  

Muzzleloader: chuggernaught: gar1013: Two things:

1) who cares about the Olympics?  Without USA vs CCCP and BRD vs DDR there's not a good rivalry to create drama.

2) you do realize we've boycotted the Olympics before, right?

Two things:

Where is your national pride?  Are you too scared to cheer on American athletes just because they are American?

We boycotted the 1980 Olympics because they were in Moscow, literally the seat of power of our Cold War foe.
This Olympics is being hosted by our ally.  Why do you hate our ally?

Actually, we boycotted the moscow olympics because the soviet union invaded afghanistan the previous december.
    People screamed at carter for politicizing the games, but they had always been political.
  Our way is better, even in sports, should be their motto, it would be far more honest.


Sending American athletes to the Soviet Union at the height of the Cold War, just one Olympics removed from Munich probably was the right call.
 
2017-12-07 10:05:35 AM  

stoli n coke: brap: Oh, this is just farking great, a lifetime of dedicating myself to the noble art of Equestrian Dressage, straight down the shiatter.

Pretty sure they weren't going to have dressage outside. In the winter. In Korea.


AND I wasted $100,000 getting the blacksmith to forge my trusty steed, Fancy Prancer hoove-sized snowshoes?

WELL FARK ME SQUARED.
 
2017-12-07 10:06:24 AM  
"hurrr who cares, not like we're snubbing our nose at a close ally while simultaneously conveniently throwing Russia a bone"

fark. you.
 
2017-12-07 10:16:11 AM  

BizarreMan: Maybe if 45* would shut up about North Korea on Twitter the diplomats left at the state department might have a shot.


Most of them are gone
 
2017-12-07 10:21:17 AM  
Still trying to convince yourselves there's a Russia connection?
LOL. The left really has gone loony.
Been a year, and ~$7 million spent on investigation, and still nothing.
 
2017-12-07 10:22:26 AM  

ThatGuyFromTheInternet: Ketchuponsteak: Are US athletes to stupid to make up their own mind whether they want to go or not?

"To stupid"?


Yes, are they?
 
2017-12-07 10:22:55 AM  

Ketchuponsteak: Are US athletes to stupid to make up their own mind whether they want to go or not?


Not so much stupid, but broke.  Go on your own, and pay for everything, including security, or see what your national governing group will cover?  My kid is just beginning to seriously consider an Olympic run, and the dues to join his particular group are not cheap, but they cover a bunch of stuff like liability insurance at the venues, and security and transportation of the team to venues, etc.  We like watching the Olympics on TV, and had no idea all the stuff going on in the background until 1996 and being in Atlanta.  IIRC, in the 2016 Games, there were a few unattached athletes from countries like Sudan, Somalia, maybe a few Arab places as well.  Those athletes had it rough getting there and hanging in there.  The Americans should go no matter what.
 
2017-12-07 10:27:44 AM  

stoli n coke: Muzzleloader: chuggernaught: gar1013: Two things:

1) who cares about the Olympics?  Without USA vs CCCP and BRD vs DDR there's not a good rivalry to create drama.

2) you do realize we've boycotted the Olympics before, right?

Two things:

Where is your national pride?  Are you too scared to cheer on American athletes just because they are American?

We boycotted the 1980 Olympics because they were in Moscow, literally the seat of power of our Cold War foe.
This Olympics is being hosted by our ally.  Why do you hate our ally?

Actually, we boycotted the moscow olympics because the soviet union invaded afghanistan the previous december.
    People screamed at carter for politicizing the games, but they had always been political.
  Our way is better, even in sports, should be their motto, it would be far more honest.

Sending American athletes to the Soviet Union at the height of the Cold War, just one Olympics removed from Munich probably was the right call.


The Soviet Union would have kept them safe. The 80s boycot was purely a political decision.

Also, the Soviet Union didn't invade Afghanistan. Its not called invading when the sitting government asks you to come, whether you happened to like them or not. Under the Soviet Union, and their proxy government, girls got to go get an equal education and all that jazz. I doubt that's the case with the USA now controlling the same portion of the nation.
 
2017-12-07 10:28:44 AM  

mrsleep: Still trying to convince yourselves there's a Russia connection?
LOL. The left really has gone loony.
Been a year, and ~$7 million spent on investigation, and still nothing.


But, hillary benghazi benghazi emails!!!!
 
2017-12-07 10:30:25 AM  
I would like to see a Trump-themed video of "Back in the USSR" by The Beatles.
 
2017-12-07 10:31:15 AM  

mrsleep: Still trying to convince yourselves there's a Russia connection?
LOL. The left really has gone loony.
Been a year, and ~$7 million spent on investigation, and still nothing.


They've already arrested numerous people involved with the administration and two of them have been wearing wires.
 
2017-12-07 10:40:09 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: mrsleep: Still trying to convince yourselves there's a Russia connection?
LOL. The left really has gone loony.
Been a year, and ~$7 million spent on investigation, and still nothing.

They've already arrested numerous people involved with the administration and two of them have been wearing wires.


Dude, what part of "NOTHINGBURGER!" do you not understand?

Sure it's piled high with extra patties, lots of cheese, and all sorts of toppings, but NOTHINGBURGER!
 
2017-12-07 10:40:39 AM  

mrsleep: Still trying to convince yourselves there's a Russia connection?
LOL. The left really has gone loony.
Been a year, and ~$7 million spent on investigation, and still nothing.


The grand jury seems pretty convinced.
 
2017-12-07 10:48:46 AM  
This headline is exactly what is so flucked up about the political environment now.  Perfect example of what should be ignored and treated as some idiot's comment, but will instead be taken as information to be digested.
 
2017-12-07 10:49:58 AM  

mrsleep: Still trying to convince yourselves there's a Russia connection?
LOL. The left really has gone loony.
Been a year, and ~$7 million spent on investigation, and still nothing.


The ones who have already pled seem convinced.

Now toddle back to Big Orange Daddy. If you use extra slobber you might be promoted from making Little Donny Great Again to Putin's cloaca-cleaner
 
2017-12-07 10:53:10 AM  

cherryl taggart: Ketchuponsteak: Are US athletes to stupid to make up their own mind whether they want to go or not?

Not so much stupid, but broke.  Go on your own, and pay for everything, including security, or see what your national governing group will cover?  My kid is just beginning to seriously consider an Olympic run, and the dues to join his particular group are not cheap, but they cover a bunch of stuff like liability insurance at the venues, and security and transportation of the team to venues, etc.  We like watching the Olympics on TV, and had no idea all the stuff going on in the background until 1996 and being in Atlanta.  IIRC, in the 2016 Games, there were a few unattached athletes from countries like Sudan, Somalia, maybe a few Arab places as well.  Those athletes had it rough getting there and hanging in there.  The Americans should go no matter what.


That's not what I meant.

Why not just let athletes make the decision on their own accord?

I assume once you made the US olympic team, the money for staying in Korea isn't an issue. Security ought to be paid for by the South Korean government btw., as long as you don't leave the designated areas at least.
 
2017-12-07 10:54:36 AM  
So Nikki Haley is concerned about NK nuking a couple of hundred US Olympic athletes, but not about the thousands of US Military personnel and their families? (never mind the millions of South Koreans)

This is Trump saying "I'm with my Vladdy"
 
2017-12-07 11:02:39 AM  
Christ, what a Russian puppet.
 
2017-12-07 11:02:54 AM  

laststarfighter: Or is it because Lyndsey Vonn has already said she would not make a White House visit?  Or that she said in her mind she represents the American people, not administration?


This. The ambassador's unofficial-but-still-tweetable-hallway​-aside-made-to-a-FOX-reporter approach​is the White House's way of bossing athletes around without taking responsibility for it. It is just telling athletes to be obedient or they won't get to do the thing they have been preparing for all their lives.  Just reason number 5,672 to loathe Trump.
 
2017-12-07 11:07:39 AM  
Donald's ham-handed political hackery aside, I've got to say they might just have a point in this case.

 We know that North Korea's leader is... less than stable. The Whole World will be having a party right next door, here's hoping the ONLY fireworks are ones the IOC planned.
 
2017-12-07 11:18:11 AM  
Since when is it up to her?

I don't give a fark about the Olympics, so I don't care either way, but neither this dumb biatch nor her farking stupid boss have much of a say on this, short of some sort of official order that nobody from the U.S. is allowed to go to the Korean peninsula.

Which would be super-popular, I'm sure, LOL.
 
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