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2017-12-06 10:02:37 AM  
Not to get all hippie-dippie-vegan on everyone, but there is strong evidence that meat consumption is one of the leading indicators for diabetes. This is in addition to obesity and a sedentary lifestyle.

It's telling from the article that most of the people gained all the weight back and saw their diabetes symptoms return when they went back to eating their fried food and meat-heavy diets from before the intervention study.

The most effective way to "cure" diabetes is to exercise and limit meat/fried/processed food intake while increasing vegetables and whole grains.  It isn't only about sugar.
 
2017-12-06 10:25:52 AM  
This isn't news. It's been known for decades that extreme weight loss cures type 2 diabetes.
 
2017-12-06 10:27:09 AM  
Ok, science. Extreme diet it is!

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2017-12-06 10:36:23 AM  

Uzzah: Ok, science. Extreme diet it is!

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great for diabetes...causing it, that is
 
2017-12-06 10:41:24 AM  
Only Obama's super powers can save America:

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2017-12-06 10:43:00 AM  
I think we'll find many diabetics would rather deal with the diabetes than diet like this.
 
2017-12-06 10:43:06 AM  
825-853 calories per day

That's like 2 Rogue dead guys and half an order of jalapeno poppers.  Extreme diet, indeed.
 
2017-12-06 10:43:20 AM  

togaman2k: there is strong evidence that meat consumption is one of the leading indicators for diabetes. This is in addition to obesity and a sedentary lifestyle.


Not to get all condescending and such, but you're just saying a balanced diet and exercise is good for you. The comments in your article are somewhat revealing too - it's tough weeding out the some of the science from the crackpots in there.
 
2017-12-06 10:43:57 AM  

togaman2k: Not to get all hippie-dippie-vegan on everyone, but there is strong evidence that meat consumption is one of the leading indicators for diabetes. This is in addition to obesity and a sedentary lifestyle.

It's telling from the article that most of the people gained all the weight back and saw their diabetes symptoms return when they went back to eating their fried food and meat-heavy diets from before the intervention study.

The most effective way to "cure" diabetes is to exercise and limit meat/fried/processed food intake while increasing vegetables and whole grains.  It isn't only about sugar.


It's not only about sugar in the sense that some foods metabolize into sugar in the body, but it's largely about sugar.

My guess is that the link to meats is really just a correlation to high sugar and high fat in fast food and processed food. There are lots of carnivores in the wild that eat largely meat diets but don't suffer from diabetes or diabetic-like problems. From everything I know I also have a hard time believing that someone who eats moderate, lean cuts of meat they prepare at home is at a higher risk of diabetes than someone who just eats plants they prepare at home.
 
2017-12-06 10:46:46 AM  

togaman2k: Not to get all hippie-dippie-vegan on everyone, but there is strong evidence that meat consumption is one of the leading indicators for diabetes. This is in addition to obesity and a sedentary lifestyle.

It's telling from the article that most of the people gained all the weight back and saw their diabetes symptoms return when they went back to eating their fried food and meat-heavy diets from before the intervention study.

The most effective way to "cure" diabetes is to exercise and limit meat/fried/processed food intake while increasing vegetables and whole grains.  It isn't only about sugar.


I'd say that's crap. High fructose corn syrup has been established as a very significant risk factor and was ignored. There's a Gish-gallop of the sorts of sloppy associative studies that pollute the literature and then never lead anywhere, speculative "shiny pebble" implications about oxidative stress, and a dozen other things that get spewed forth. Ever stop to think that if someone can cite 12 different things with equal support that it pretty well shows that they are all wrong? That you if you can manage to find similar "support" for all of those 12 things that it just means your standards for "support" are really low?
 
2017-12-06 10:49:38 AM  

Uzzah: Ok, science. Extreme diet it is!

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That might even qualify as vegetarian.
 
2017-12-06 10:50:53 AM  

facepalm.jpg: togaman2k: Not to get all hippie-dippie-vegan on everyone, but there is strong evidence that meat consumption is one of the leading indicators for diabetes. This is in addition to obesity and a sedentary lifestyle.

It's telling from the article that most of the people gained all the weight back and saw their diabetes symptoms return when they went back to eating their fried food and meat-heavy diets from before the intervention study.

The most effective way to "cure" diabetes is to exercise and limit meat/fried/processed food intake while increasing vegetables and whole grains.  It isn't only about sugar.

It's not only about sugar in the sense that some foods metabolize into sugar in the body, but it's largely about sugar.

My guess is that the link to meats is really just a correlation to high sugar and high fat in fast food and processed food. There are lots of carnivores in the wild that eat largely meat diets but don't suffer from diabetes or diabetic-like problems. From everything I know I also have a hard time believing that someone who eats moderate, lean cuts of meat they prepare at home is at a higher risk of diabetes than someone who just eats plants they prepare at home.


The article does say the evidence at this point is still just correlational and seen in meta-analysis. The way the body metabolizes different foods is a huge factor. It has been shown (and I'd have to find it) that fried and cooked-in-fat fatty cuts of meat increase the insulin resistance of sugar/carbs more than a lean cut cooked in a low-fat method. The effect is still higher, though, than eating the same sugary foods with a strict plant-based meal, though.
 
2017-12-06 10:52:34 AM  

togaman2k: Not to get all hippie-dippie-vegan on everyone, but there is strong evidence that meat consumption is one of the leading indicators for diabetes. This is in addition to obesity and a sedentary lifestyle.

It's telling from the article that most of the people gained all the weight back and saw their diabetes symptoms return when they went back to eating their fried food and meat-heavy diets from before the intervention study.

The most effective way to "cure" diabetes is to exercise and limit meat/fried/processed food intake while increasing vegetables and whole grains.  It isn't only about sugar.


Yeah but there's a surprising amount of diabetes in the rice bowl of India.
 
2017-12-06 10:52:46 AM  

King Keepo: togaman2k: there is strong evidence that meat consumption is one of the leading indicators for diabetes. This is in addition to obesity and a sedentary lifestyle.

Not to get all condescending and such, but you're just saying a balanced diet and exercise is good for you. The comments in your article are somewhat revealing too - it's tough weeding out the some of the science from the crackpots in there.


It's not too complicated. Michael Pollan's rules are the most effective for most people:

Eat whole foods
Mostly plants
Not too much

Add 30 minutes of moderate exercise a day and you are good. Not that I follow this all the time either.
 
2017-12-06 10:54:17 AM  

Fano: togaman2k: Not to get all hippie-dippie-vegan on everyone, but there is strong evidence that meat consumption is one of the leading indicators for diabetes. This is in addition to obesity and a sedentary lifestyle.

It's telling from the article that most of the people gained all the weight back and saw their diabetes symptoms return when they went back to eating their fried food and meat-heavy diets from before the intervention study.

The most effective way to "cure" diabetes is to exercise and limit meat/fried/processed food intake while increasing vegetables and whole grains.  It isn't only about sugar.

Yeah but there's a surprising amount of diabetes in the rice bowl of India.


After the introduction of the Western Standard American Diet over the past few decades.  See also: China, Japan, Africa
 
2017-12-06 10:55:03 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: I think we'll find many diabetics would rather deal with the diabetes than diet like this.


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2017-12-06 10:57:15 AM  

Manfred J. Hattan: 825-853 calories per day

That's like 2 Rogue dead guys and half an order of jalapeno poppers.  Extreme diet, indeed.


Or 2 bottles of soylent.....

Hmm.....beer is good for you...lots of B vitamins...and um, hops...
 
2017-12-06 10:58:10 AM  

Manfred J. Hattan: 825-853 calories per day

That's like 2 Rogue dead guys and half an order of jalapeno poppers.  Extreme diet, indeed.


Going under 1200 cal/day without being under constant supervision by your doctor is a recipe (HA!) for organ failure.
 
2017-12-06 11:05:04 AM  

Uzzah: Ok, science. Extreme diet it is!

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2017-12-06 11:09:40 AM  
As someone who has lost 120 lbs and gained 95 lbs in the span of two years (in a roller coaster fashion), I can honestly say that the diet in the article is total crap in the real world.  Real, sustained weight loss requires steady, but NOT extreme, changes in what and how much you eat.  In the past, I've been able to lose 50-60 lbs in 6 months (1-4 lbs a week) and it isn't hard because I allow myself 1600-1800 calories a day.  Eating the right foods with the right nutrients satisfies our bodies needs and you won't feel hungry.

That all said, it is damn hard to break old habits that have been set in stone through 20 years not paying attention.
 
2017-12-06 11:10:22 AM  
In intensive weight management program is not some fad 'diet' that you see advertized on magazines in the supermarket checkout lane.
 
2017-12-06 11:42:43 AM  
 825-853 calories per day

Weird. For some reason, whoever wrote that substituted the word "day" for the word "meal."
That sure is a funny mistake.
 
2017-12-06 11:43:20 AM  

togaman2k: Not to get all hippie-dippie-vegan on everyone, but there is strong evidence that meat consumption is one of the leading indicators for diabetes. This is in addition to obesity and a sedentary lifestyle.

It's telling from the article that most of the people gained all the weight back and saw their diabetes symptoms return when they went back to eating their fried food and meat-heavy diets from before the intervention study.

The most effective way to "cure" diabetes is to exercise and limit meat/fried/processed food intake while increasing vegetables and whole grains.  It isn't only about sugar.


Explain how meat consumption makes you at higher risk for a disease brought on by insulin insensitivity.  Go on, I'll wait.

There is one thing and one thing only that determines whether you will get diabetes and it isn;t what you eat or whether you exercise or any of that neo-puritan bullshiat .  it is simply this:  Does you body have adequate levels of Vitamin d3?  If it does, you're golden, if not, you're gonna get it.   And D3 is the Sunlight vitamin, and most people these days are not out in the sun enough to make adequate supplies (and even if they are all the \bad medical advice about sunscreen use means they mostly don;t make enough)    This is also why African Americans,  after you control for diet, lifestyle and every other conceivable factor, still have much higher rates of Type II diabetes than other Americans (and why this is not true in Africa)  because their darker skin and the more indirect rays of the North American Sun mean they make even less d3 than white folk.

Oh, and there is a cure for Diabetes, right now, a Plant growing in the Amazon called the Banisteriopsis caapi vine, which contains the chemical Harmine that has been clinically proven to regrow pancreatic beta cells.  But because the vine can be brewed to make the hallucinogen Ayahausca, it's illegal to bring into the US or do clinical trials with.  I wonder how much Novo Nordisk has to shell out each year to maintain that state of affairs
 
2017-12-06 11:48:20 AM  

linuxbox9: As someone who has lost 120 lbs and gained 95 lbs in the span of two years (in a roller coaster fashion), I can honestly say that the diet in the article is total crap in the real world.  Real, sustained weight loss requires steady, but NOT extreme, changes in what and how much you eat.  In the past, I've been able to lose 50-60 lbs in 6 months (1-4 lbs a week) and it isn't hard because I allow myself 1600-1800 calories a day.  Eating the right foods with the right nutrients satisfies our bodies needs and you won't feel hungry.

That all said, it is damn hard to break old habits that have been set in stone through 20 years not paying attention.


Except the extreme diet is not about weight loss, it's about inducing a significant change in your metabolism that reverses type 2 diabetes. The follow-up, to maintain good health is a different thing. Simply losing weight under a good sane program of improved diet and excercise will not necessarily shock your metabolism enough to reverse the early symptoms of type 2 diabetes. The metabolism shock results are about 15 years old and work. The follow-up is a secondary challenge of equal significance.
 
2017-12-06 11:49:12 AM  

Magorn: Oh, and there is a cure for Diabetes, right now, a Plant growing in the Amazon called the Banisteriopsis caapi vine, which contains the chemical Harmine that has been clinically proven to regrow pancreatic beta cells.  But because the vine can be brewed to make the hallucinogen Ayahausca, it's illegal to bring into the US or do clinical trials with.  I wonder how much Novo Nordisk has to shell out each year to maintain that state of affairs



Then get Syrian rue (Peganum harmala) instead.
It produces just as much harmine, and is completely legal in the US.
 
2017-12-06 11:59:33 AM  

give me doughnuts: Magorn: Oh, and there is a cure for Diabetes, right now, a Plant growing in the Amazon called the Banisteriopsis caapi vine, which contains the chemical Harmine that has been clinically proven to regrow pancreatic beta cells.  But because the vine can be brewed to make the hallucinogen Ayahausca, it's illegal to bring into the US or do clinical trials with.  I wonder how much Novo Nordisk has to shell out each year to maintain that state of affairs


Then get Syrian rue (Peganum harmala) instead.
It produces just as much harmine, and is completely legal in the US.


*furiously googles*  Thank You!

This could be a big deal
 
2017-12-06 12:02:05 PM  
It's been known for about 2300 years that a sharp fast can cure the condition, but you can't study fasting because human study review boards think people die if they stop having blood sugar.
 
2017-12-06 12:09:06 PM  

wildcardjack: It's been known for about 2300 years that a sharp fast can cure the condition, but you can't study fasting because human study review boards think people die if they stop having blood sugar.


Back in my low-carb days, an ER Doc tried to admit me when he ran a blood test and my blood sugar was 50, he refused to believe I felt fine and it was always like that
 
2017-12-06 12:12:54 PM  

Magorn: wildcardjack: It's been known for about 2300 years that a sharp fast can cure the condition, but you can't study fasting because human study review boards think people die if they stop having blood sugar.

Back in my low-carb days, an ER Doc tried to admit me when he ran a blood test and my blood sugar was 50, he refused to believe I felt fine and it was always like that


I went less than one week on a pretty strict vegetarian diet (one to two ounces of meat per day if at all). My blood sugar was 83. Given the seismic recording nature of my sugar, it was shocking. The lowest reading ever.
 
2017-12-06 12:13:50 PM  
Why should I have to be on a restricted diet to be as normal as people on a normal diet?   This isn't a cure, it's a workaround.
 
2017-12-06 12:19:34 PM  
It seems they went to a lot of time and trouble to discover that losing weight will help to control your diabetes. Which we already knew. But then we also knew that crash dieting is bad for you. Doh!
 
2017-12-06 12:30:51 PM  

lectos: Why should I have to be on a restricted diet to be as normal as people on a normal diet?


Because those "normal" people do not have diabetes.
 
2017-12-06 12:35:28 PM  

bingethinker: It seems they went to a lot of time and trouble to discover that losing weight will help to control your diabetes. Which we already knew. But then we also knew that crash dieting is bad for you. Doh!


No.

There was some compelling work done on this over a decade ago. It took many people who were pre-diabetic, which basically means they were showing signs of insulin resistance under glucose stress tests. In controlled studies, some were simply put on a dietary weight loss regime, some on exercise, some combos and one cohort on an extreme diet. You do all the proper statistical tests and it turns out that the shock diet changed metabolism in a significant way and corrected the insulin resistance. It did it in ways that a diet/exercise program that produced gradual (sustainable) weight loss did not accomplish.

You can avoid type2 diabetes by keeping in shape (some genetic predispositions aside) but if you start to develop problems just losing weight or starting to exercise isn't that effective. It's better than not changing your lifestyle but it isn't as effective at resetting your metabolism with respect to glucose. It seems that you really need to shock the system. Or perhaps a better way to put it, a shock to the system turns out to be a very good thing. But it's a separate thing from the change you need to make to adjust yourself to a new BMI so that you can maintain a lower weight. Good health requires that you do both.
 
2017-12-06 12:37:22 PM  

lectos: Why should I have to be on a restricted diet to be as normal as people on a normal diet?   This isn't a cure, it's a workaround.


You know the person that told you that life was fair?

They lied.
 
2017-12-06 12:42:04 PM  
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2017-12-06 12:57:32 PM  

Magorn: Explain how meat consumption makes you at higher risk for a disease brought on by insulin insensitivity. Go on, I'll wait


A diet high in meat will make you fat. Fat people develop insulin insensitivity.
 
2017-12-06 12:58:17 PM  

Magorn: Explain how meat consumption makes you at higher risk for a disease brought on by insulin insensitivity.  Go on, I'll wait.


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti​c​les/PMC4512604/
Not sure what the mechanism is, but it appears that high-fat meat consumption is correlated with higher levels of insulin resistance.

There is one thing and one thing only that determines whether you will get diabetes and it isn;t what you eat or whether you exercise or any of that neo-puritan bullshiat .  it is simply this:  Does you body have adequate levels of Vitamin d3?  If it does, you're golden, if not, you're gonna get it.   And D3 is the Sunlight vitamin, and most people these days are not out in the sun enough to make adequate supplies (and even if they are all the \bad medical advice about sunscreen use means they mostly don;t make enough)    This is also why African Americans,  after you control for diet, lifestyle and every other conceivable factor, still have much higher rates of Type II diabetes than other Americans (and why this is not true in Africa)  because their darker skin and the more indirect rays of the North American Sun mean they make even less d3 than white folk.

Actually, this seems to be backwards - diabetes is more prevalent in equatorial regions, not less.
 
2017-12-06 01:05:48 PM  
So basically, don't be fat.

And if you are fat, lose the weight. Not just a little of it, but all of it, until you are no longer fat.

That's why the "extreme" diet. When you're really fat, it takes a very low-calorie diet to become not-fat in 3 to 5 months.
 
2017-12-06 01:11:14 PM  

whatshisname: Magorn: Explain how meat consumption makes you at higher risk for a disease brought on by insulin insensitivity. Go on, I'll wait

A diet high in meat calories will make you fat. Fat people develop insulin insensitivity.


FTFY

https://examine.com/nutrition/throwdo​w​n-round-2-plant-vs-animal-protein-for-​type-2-diabetes/
 
2017-12-06 01:26:52 PM  
Based on my sample size of one, I would say that any diet that includes weighing food, counting various macros, etc, is doomed to failure over the long term. I started on the ketogenic diet back in march of 2017. Not the hardcore counting/weighing everything approach, but something that has come to be called "lazy keto" which is essentially just cutting out sugar, minimizing carb intake, and replacing those carbs with vegetables & healthy fats.

So basically, get your burger as a lettuce wrap. Salad instead of fries. Skip the shake. Eat all the bacon.

I'm down 50 lbs, 4 pant sizes, and halved my blood pressure meds since starting this. And once you get past the initial cravings it's easy, and perhaps more importantly, sustainable. I barely have to think about it anymore. I'm sure it's only a matter of time until someone comes along to tell us keto is going to kill us all, but looking over my recent blood work with my GP barely 2 hours ago showed an across-the-board improvement. We may be waiting a while on the naysayers.

This is all without changing anything else. I'm sure if I peeled my lazy arse from the couch once in a while to take a walk things would be moving even faster. Not a diabetic, but I have been able to experience many other benefits of losing weight including more energy, stronger libido / more sex, better fitting clothes, quitting the anti-depressants.
 
2017-12-06 01:36:49 PM  
I reversed early stage type 2 diabetes, high blood pressure, and high cholesterol by switching to a plant-based diet, which resulted in a loss of over 100 pounds over three years.

/anectdotal evidence
//not an insufferable vegan
///miss bacon the most
 
2017-12-06 01:45:07 PM  

Skyking Skyking Do Not Answer: I reversed early stage type 2 diabetes, high blood pressure, and high cholesterol by switching to a plant-based diet, which resulted in a loss of over 100 pounds over three years.

/anectdotal evidence
//not an insufferable vegan
///miss bacon the most


So you've never back-slid and never experienced returning symptoms?
 
2017-12-06 01:55:58 PM  

Jiro Dreams Of McRibs: Skyking Skyking Do Not Answer: I reversed early stage type 2 diabetes, high blood pressure, and high cholesterol by switching to a plant-based diet, which resulted in a loss of over 100 pounds over three years.

/anectdotal evidence
//not an insufferable vegan
///miss bacon the most

So you've never back-slid and never experienced returning symptoms?


I have been eating some dairy every week, and meat about once a month.  My cholesterol has been creeping back up.  But the weight is still down, the BP is still down, and the blood sugar is normal.  I just had lab work done before Thanksgiving.  I wouldn't call it backsliding as much as allowing myself something tasty to eat (but bad for me) once in a while.  Ice cream is one of my downfalls.
 
2017-12-06 02:16:03 PM  

Christian Bale: So basically, don't be fat.

And if you are fat, lose the weight. Not just a little of it, but all of it, until you are no longer fat.

That's why the "extreme" diet. When you're really fat, it takes a very low-calorie diet to become not-fat in 3 to 5 months.


That's pretty much it. Keep your BMI at or below 25 and you're pretty much golden.

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/BMI is 31... :^(
 
2017-12-06 02:29:17 PM  

Skyking Skyking Do Not Answer: Jiro Dreams Of McRibs: Skyking Skyking Do Not Answer: I reversed early stage type 2 diabetes, high blood pressure, and high cholesterol by switching to a plant-based diet, which resulted in a loss of over 100 pounds over three years.

/anectdotal evidence
//not an insufferable vegan
///miss bacon the most

So you've never back-slid and never experienced returning symptoms?

I have been eating some dairy every week, and meat about once a month.  My cholesterol has been creeping back up.  But the weight is still down, the BP is still down, and the blood sugar is normal.  I just had lab work done before Thanksgiving.  I wouldn't call it backsliding as much as allowing myself something tasty to eat (but bad for me) once in a while.  Ice cream is one of my downfalls.


Yep, backsliding is more of serious weight gain rather than a couple of meals.

I remember reading an article about a doctor who pointed out that everyone is going to have troubles with a weekend of holiday gorging. Virtually anyone's blood work will look strange for a few days.

I just try to eat right and stay active but I've been avoiding a lot of meat (Thanksgiving was an exception) and starches. Feel a lot better, weight is down, allergies are reduced.
 
2017-12-06 03:57:13 PM  

togaman2k: Not to get all hippie-dippie-vegan on everyone, but there is strong evidence that meat consumption is one of the leading indicators for diabetes. This is in addition to obesity and a sedentary lifestyle.

It's telling from the article that most of the people gained all the weight back and saw their diabetes symptoms return when they went back to eating their fried food and meat-heavy diets from before the intervention study.

The most effective way to "cure" diabetes is to exercise and limit meat/fried/processed food intake while increasing vegetables and whole grains.  It isn't only about sugar.


Neither the science alert article nor the actual lancet publication summary said anything of the sort.
 
2017-12-06 04:44:17 PM  

Manfred J. Hattan: 825-853 calories per day

That's like 2 Rogue dead guys and half an order of jalapeno poppers.  Extreme diet, indeed.


If you include more of the quote:
a low calorie formula diet consisting of things like health shakes and soups, limiting them to consuming 825-853 calories per day

They are almost certainly talking about Optifast, unless there is generic or off-brand equivalent to Optifast, which would useful information to a lot of people.  You have to be enrolled in one of their programs in order buy the special meal replacement foods through them, but if there is an off-brand with the same nutritional content you could just skip the nonsense and pay a lot less for the food.
 
2017-12-06 04:46:17 PM  

bonobo73: togaman2k: Not to get all hippie-dippie-vegan on everyone, but there is strong evidence that meat consumption is one of the leading indicators for diabetes. This is in addition to obesity and a sedentary lifestyle.

It's telling from the article that most of the people gained all the weight back and saw their diabetes symptoms return when they went back to eating their fried food and meat-heavy diets from before the intervention study.

The most effective way to "cure" diabetes is to exercise and limit meat/fried/processed food intake while increasing vegetables and whole grains.  It isn't only about sugar.

Neither the science alert article nor the actual lancet publication summary said anything of the sort.


Indeed, the "no carb" diet that some people find very useful for controlling A1C has meat, eggs, cheese, and NO grains, whole or otherwise.  Vegetables, yes, especially some weird substitutes like cauliflower rice.
 
2017-12-06 05:04:20 PM  
I started experiencing pain in my feet. I went in and found out I as Type 2. That was back in April and I've since lost  over 50lbs and started watching my diet. My blood pressure is normal, cholesterol is good, and my blood sugar is acceptable but sadly my feet will give me trouble forever.

My downfall was Pepsi, lots of Pepsi. Haven't had one since that first visit and I tried one the other day and nearly gagged from the sugar.
 
2017-12-06 06:04:20 PM  

softshoes: I started experiencing pain in my feet. I went in and found out I as Type 2. That was back in April and I've since lost  over 50lbs and started watching my diet. My blood pressure is normal, cholesterol is good, and my blood sugar is acceptable but sadly my feet will give me trouble forever.

My downfall was Pepsi, lots of Pepsi. Haven't had one since that first visit and I tried one the other day and nearly gagged from the sugar.


There are many soft drinks that do not contain sugar, including diet versions of all of the Pepsi products.  If Nutra Sweet makes you gag, there are some sweetened with Sucralose.  Anyone who claims to be nauseated by all of the artificial sweeteners, I challenge you to a blind taste test.
 
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