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2017-12-05 08:57:18 PM  
Yet no one may ever care about The Fantastic 4 except when they are called The Incredible.
 
2017-12-05 10:27:00 PM  
All I can say is, a little over a month ago, the Piotroski score on FOXA was in the sweet spot and I loaded up and goddam did that pay off.
 
2017-12-05 11:37:53 PM  
Is Deadpool included in the deal? PG-13 Deadpool is not okay.

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2017-12-05 11:50:56 PM  
Fox could also sell off its FX network.

Looking forward to seeing the Always Sunny crew rolled into the MCU.
 
2017-12-05 11:52:44 PM  
It shouldn't be hard to make a great FF movie.

All you need to do is *not* reinterpret Doctor Doom.
 
2017-12-05 11:53:27 PM  
The Gifted and Legion as part of the MCU. Could be worth it.
 
2017-12-05 11:54:11 PM  

Non Sequitur Man: Is Deadpool included in the deal? PG-13 Deadpool is not okay.

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If there's one thing Disney cares more about than a "family-friendly" image, it's money. And there's no way in hell they'd let a movie/potential franchise that pulled in a 1300+% ROI fall apart with a PG-13 rating. The R-rating was one of the biggest initial selling points.

I am not worried about Disney/Marvel acquiring Fox's characters.
 
2017-12-05 11:54:18 PM  

fusillade762: Fox could also sell off its FX network.

Looking forward to seeing the Always Sunny crew rolled into the MCU.


Or owning a cantina in the Star Wars universe.
 
2017-12-06 12:00:16 AM  

Non Sequitur Man: Is Deadpool included in the deal? PG-13 Deadpool is not okay.

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Speaking of Deadpool:

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2017-12-06 12:02:28 AM  

Thong_of_Zardoz: It shouldn't be hard to make a great FF movie.

All you need to do is *not* reinterpret Doctor Doom.


Let me repeat it for the slow kids in Hollywood: Mad Scientist Darth Vader who's also the Emperor.
 
2017-12-06 12:16:11 AM  

Fano: Thong_of_Zardoz: It shouldn't be hard to make a great FF movie.

All you need to do is *not* reinterpret Doctor Doom.

Let me repeat it for the slow kids in Hollywood: Mad Scientist Darth Vader who's also the Emperor.


Old school doctor doom would cripple the avengers just to watch them roll around in wheel chairs

Correct me if I'm wrong but he could wipe out all of humanity if he wanted to but doesn't because he is godfather to sue storms daughter?
 
2017-12-06 12:16:52 AM  
Disney is closing in on an agreement to purchase 21st Century Fox's television and movie production assets
This means Disney gets the Marvel franchises? I'm not disputing that, but it sounds like they may be selling actual, y'know, production assets...
 
2017-12-06 12:17:14 AM  

Thong_of_Zardoz: It shouldn't be hard to make a great FF movie.

All you need to do is *not* reinterpret Doctor Doom.


I think it kind of is... Doom is really the only part of FF anyone likes.  The actual FF team is full of people whining about getting superpowers so they aren't all that likable.
 
2017-12-06 12:17:22 AM  

Non Sequitur Man: Is Deadpool included in the deal? PG-13 Deadpool is not okay.

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PG-13 Deadpool is okay, provided they put him in with the Avengers or something like that, someone uses the one swear word that's allowed, and he goes off about "GOSH DARN IT, YOU USED THE ONE HECKING DARN BAD LANGUAGE WORD ALLOWED IN THIS PG-13 MOVIE! YOU MONDAY-TO-FRIDAY JERK, THAT WAS *MY* WORD, MINE, AND YOU USED IT!  YOU SON OF A SUBMARINER!" and so on.
 
2017-12-06 12:18:17 AM  

Non Sequitur Man: Is Deadpool included in the deal? PG-13 Deadpool is not okay.

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2017-12-06 12:18:34 AM  

scottydoesntknow: Non Sequitur Man: Is Deadpool included in the deal? PG-13 Deadpool is not okay.

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If there's one thing Disney cares more about than a "family-friendly" image, it's money. And there's no way in hell they'd let a movie/potential franchise that pulled in a 1300+% ROI fall apart with a PG-13 rating. The R-rating was one of the biggest initial selling points.

I am not worried about Disney/Marvel acquiring Fox's characters.


This. If this deal goes through, expect an addendum to the whole, "No R-rated Marvel movies," rule that adds, "That's the department of the Marvel Knights label."
 
2017-12-06 12:19:42 AM  

null: Non Sequitur Man: Is Deadpool included in the deal? PG-13 Deadpool is not okay.

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PG-13 Deadpool is okay, provided they put him in with the Avengers or something like that, someone uses the one swear word that's allowed, and he goes off about "GOSH DARN IT, YOU USED THE ONE HECKING DARN BAD LANGUAGE WORD ALLOWED IN THIS PG-13 MOVIE! YOU MONDAY-TO-FRIDAY JERK, THAT WAS *MY* WORD, MINE, AND YOU USED IT!  YOU SON OF A SUBMARINER!" and so on.


I think that counts as equivalent to mine, so...
*shakes tiny fist*
 
2017-12-06 12:23:12 AM  

Mithiwithi: Non Sequitur Man: Is Deadpool included in the deal? PG-13 Deadpool is not okay.

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You could also have a lot of fun by having him getting bleeped and then he starts having arguments with the offscreen censor.
 
2017-12-06 12:38:10 AM  
Is it too late to put Galactus  in Infinity War?
 
2017-12-06 12:39:24 AM  

Mad_Radhu: Mithiwithi: Non Sequitur Man: Is Deadpool included in the deal? PG-13 Deadpool is not okay.

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You could also have a lot of fun by having him getting bleeped and then he starts having arguments with the offscreen censor.


Only Deadpool (and the audience) can hear the bleeps.  All the other characters keep telling him LANGUAGE!
 
2017-12-06 12:40:00 AM  
I'd be cool with PG-13 Deadpool if he said "fark" every time he would've said "f*ck".
 
2017-12-06 12:43:55 AM  
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2017-12-06 12:46:01 AM  

smerfnablin: Fano: Thong_of_Zardoz: It shouldn't be hard to make a great FF movie.

All you need to do is *not* reinterpret Doctor Doom.

Let me repeat it for the slow kids in Hollywood: Mad Scientist Darth Vader who's also the Emperor.

Old school doctor doom would cripple the avengers just to watch them roll around in wheel chairs

Correct me if I'm wrong but he could wipe out all of humanity if he wanted to but doesn't because he is godfather to sue storms daughter?


Doom contains multitudes and his motivations are not for lesser mortals to understand!
 
2017-12-06 12:46:22 AM  
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2017-12-06 12:48:03 AM  

smerfnablin: Fano: Thong_of_Zardoz: It shouldn't be hard to make a great FF movie.

All you need to do is *not* reinterpret Doctor Doom.

Let me repeat it for the slow kids in Hollywood: Mad Scientist Darth Vader who's also the Emperor.

Old school doctor doom would cripple the avengers just to watch them roll around in wheel chairs

Correct me if I'm wrong but he could wipe out all of humanity if he wanted to but doesn't because he is godfather to sue storms daughter?


The best thing about Doom in my opinion is that he wants to rule the world because he thinks he could do a better job than anyone else, and he's kind of right.
 
2017-12-06 12:49:53 AM  
I'm of two minds on this. First, Fox has the rights to the best Marvel villains, so it would be beyond cool to see Magneto or Dr. Doom decimate the Avengers.

The problem is that I don't want the X-Men universe tied too closely. I've enjoyed the hell out of Logan and the first 2 "rebooted" X-Men movies.  (I know it's blasphemy here, but not a huge fan of Deadpool, the humor wore on me after 20 minutes. Some folks liked it, but it isn't for me. In the same way, not a huge South Park or Seth McFarland fan)
 
2017-12-06 12:51:31 AM  
It's a bit rough to add mutants to the MCU at this point, or even AoS for that matter.  What, they successfully hid from EVERYONE until now?

Coulson: 'There was a mention of mutants in Nick Fury's toolbox, but I didn't see a reason to bring them up..'
 
2017-12-06 12:53:54 AM  

Alphax: It's a bit rough to add mutants to the MCU at this point, or even AoS for that matter.  What, they successfully hid from EVERYONE until now?

Coulson: 'There was a mention of mutants in Nick Fury's toolbox, but I didn't see a reason to bring them up..'


Thanos can fix the continuity between War and Avengers 4
 
2017-12-06 12:54:51 AM  

Non Sequitur Man: I'd be cool with PG-13 Deadpool if he said "fark" every time he would've said "f*ck".


Nah, he should go through the whole list of made-up swear words out of other things, like frak, frell, silflay hraka, Belgium, turlingdrome, -ing, gorram, etc.
 
2017-12-06 12:56:14 AM  

Nefarious: Alphax: It's a bit rough to add mutants to the MCU at this point, or even AoS for that matter.  What, they successfully hid from EVERYONE until now?

Coulson: 'There was a mention of mutants in Nick Fury's toolbox, but I didn't see a reason to bring them up..'

Thanos can fix the continuity between War and Avengers 4


Not without a farkton of reshoots.

Though if the fandom demanded it and Disney thought it could work, they would postpone Avengers 4 and rework everything.
 
2017-12-06 12:58:14 AM  

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Does James Brown know the Hulk is wearing his suit?
 
2017-12-06 12:58:24 AM  
Well since the gauntlet can alter reality, when the gauntlet breaks or explodes, it causes the fox universe to merge with marvel.
 
2017-12-06 12:58:26 AM  
Quicksilver: Hi, I'm peter
Scarlet Witch: Hello. Have we met?
Quicksilver: You seem familiar
Audience: hehehe
 
2017-12-06 12:58:51 AM  

Alphax: It's a bit rough to add mutants to the MCU at this point, or even AoS for that matter.  What, they successfully hid from EVERYONE until now?

Coulson: 'There was a mention of mutants in Nick Fury's toolbox, but I didn't see a reason to bring them up..'


I've never liked that mutants and the X-Men we're in the same Universe to begin with. Oh, everybody is perfectly a-ok with super soldiers, radioactive spider people, and alien gods, but being born with powers is a deal breaker and you're a monster? Gimme a break.

Not to mention that the general public of that world would have no way of knowing most of the time which heroes were mutants and which weren't. Which makes their different attitudes towards just people with powers and mutants even more nonsensical.

Give'em back to Marvel but keep the universes separate.
 
2017-12-06 01:00:45 AM  

Esroc: smerfnablin: Fano: Thong_of_Zardoz: It shouldn't be hard to make a great FF movie.

All you need to do is *not* reinterpret Doctor Doom.

Let me repeat it for the slow kids in Hollywood: Mad Scientist Darth Vader who's also the Emperor.

Old school doctor doom would cripple the avengers just to watch them roll around in wheel chairs

Correct me if I'm wrong but he could wipe out all of humanity if he wanted to but doesn't because he is godfather to sue storms daughter?

The best thing about Doom in my opinion is that he wants to rule the world because he thinks he could do a better job than anyone else, and he's kind of right.


In one continuity, didn't he wind up ruling the world, all was peaceful and great, and he got bored and stopped being the ruler?
 
2017-12-06 01:00:59 AM  

null: Nefarious: Alphax: It's a bit rough to add mutants to the MCU at this point, or even AoS for that matter.  What, they successfully hid from EVERYONE until now?

Coulson: 'There was a mention of mutants in Nick Fury's toolbox, but I didn't see a reason to bring them up..'

Thanos can fix the continuity between War and Avengers 4

Not without a farkton of reshoots.

Though if the fandom demanded it and Disney thought it could work, they would postpone Avengers 4 and rework everything.


My comment was more on how to get mutants into the MCU they turn up after Thanos farks with reality in Avengers 3. In the fixed reality they always were there
 
2017-12-06 01:06:14 AM  

whosits_112: Esroc: smerfnablin: Fano: Thong_of_Zardoz: It shouldn't be hard to make a great FF movie.

All you need to do is *not* reinterpret Doctor Doom.

Let me repeat it for the slow kids in Hollywood: Mad Scientist Darth Vader who's also the Emperor.

Old school doctor doom would cripple the avengers just to watch them roll around in wheel chairs

Correct me if I'm wrong but he could wipe out all of humanity if he wanted to but doesn't because he is godfather to sue storms daughter?

The best thing about Doom in my opinion is that he wants to rule the world because he thinks he could do a better job than anyone else, and he's kind of right.

In one continuity, didn't he wind up ruling the world, all was peaceful and great, and he got bored and stopped being the ruler?


I've heard that out of all possible futures, the only ones where the Earth is at peace is if Doom rules the world.
 
2017-12-06 01:08:58 AM  
I just think it would be great if they were able to pulll Patrick Stewart and Hugh Jackman back for one last run if they somehow were able to include them in an Infinity war movie
 
2017-12-06 01:16:34 AM  

Jizz Master Zero: scottydoesntknow: Non Sequitur Man: Is Deadpool included in the deal? PG-13 Deadpool is not okay.

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If there's one thing Disney cares more about than a "family-friendly" image, it's money. And there's no way in hell they'd let a movie/potential franchise that pulled in a 1300+% ROI fall apart with a PG-13 rating. The R-rating was one of the biggest initial selling points.

I am not worried about Disney/Marvel acquiring Fox's characters.

This. If this deal goes through, expect an addendum to the whole, "No R-rated Marvel movies," rule that adds, "That's the department of the Marvel Knights label."


People forget Disney once had Touchstone Pictures which released R-rated comedies like Ruthless People in the 80s. It would be really easy for them to make a new label for R-rated super hero films. Logan and Deadpool proved it's worth doing.
 
2017-12-06 01:17:07 AM  
While you focused in on the movies, I'd be a little concerned about ownership concentration. Remember, Disney = ABC and ESPN, and considerable other interests.
 
2017-12-06 01:17:53 AM  

WillofJ2: I just think it would be great if they were able to pulll Patrick Stewart and Hugh Jackman back for one last run if they somehow were able to include them in an Infinity war movie


I think Hugh said he would only come back if the X-Men became part of the MCU.

*fingers crossed*
 
2017-12-06 01:27:53 AM  
Surool:
People forget Disney once had Touchstone Pictures which released R-rated comedies like Ruthless People in the 80s. It would be really easy for them to make a new label for R-rated super hero films. Logan and Deadpool proved it's worth doing.

Touchstone is still owned by Disney. I watched Ruthless People over the weekend and loved it. Bette Milder and Danny Devito were several levels of awesome in that flick.

/When I'm bored, I hit up a random year in film and look through the synopsis. It's a great way of finding gems.
 
2017-12-06 01:29:13 AM  

Nefarious: null: Nefarious: Alphax: It's a bit rough to add mutants to the MCU at this point, or even AoS for that matter.  What, they successfully hid from EVERYONE until now?

Coulson: 'There was a mention of mutants in Nick Fury's toolbox, but I didn't see a reason to bring them up..'

Thanos can fix the continuity between War and Avengers 4

Not without a farkton of reshoots.

Though if the fandom demanded it and Disney thought it could work, they would postpone Avengers 4 and rework everything.

My comment was more on how to get mutants into the MCU they turn up after Thanos farks with reality in Avengers 3. In the fixed reality they always were there


After credit scene for Infinity War

Doctor Strange: It's not just the casualties, Thanos managed to alter reality itself. Not to mention he's drawn the attention of powerful alien races to Earth. We're going to need everyone we can find to help protect the world in the coming years. Do you think we can find enough people who could manage a fight like this?

Camera pans down to a bald man in a wheel chair

Professor X: We have more resources at our disposal than you realize.
 
2017-12-06 01:29:46 AM  
Oh damn it, why could they not throw in Fox News as part of the package?  Disney would dismantle what's left, LOL
 
2017-12-06 01:34:27 AM  

Surool: Jizz Master Zero: scottydoesntknow: Non Sequitur Man: Is Deadpool included in the deal? PG-13 Deadpool is not okay.

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If there's one thing Disney cares more about than a "family-friendly" image, it's money. And there's no way in hell they'd let a movie/potential franchise that pulled in a 1300+% ROI fall apart with a PG-13 rating. The R-rating was one of the biggest initial selling points.

I am not worried about Disney/Marvel acquiring Fox's characters.

This. If this deal goes through, expect an addendum to the whole, "No R-rated Marvel movies," rule that adds, "That's the department of the Marvel Knights label."

People forget Disney once had Touchstone Pictures which released R-rated comedies like Ruthless People in the 80s. It would be really easy for them to make a new label for R-rated super hero films. Logan and Deadpool proved it's worth doing.


Marvel could also bring back the Epic imprint for more adult movies. Maybe they could even do some Elfquest or Alien Legion movies.
 
2017-12-06 01:54:10 AM  

scottydoesntknow: Non Sequitur Man: Is Deadpool included in the deal? PG-13 Deadpool is not okay.

[img.fark.net image 400x216]

If there's one thing Disney cares more about than a "family-friendly" image, it's money. And there's no way in hell they'd let a movie/potential franchise that pulled in a 1300+% ROI fall apart with a PG-13 rating. The R-rating was one of the biggest initial selling points.

I am not worried about Disney/Marvel acquiring Fox's characters.


I'd love to see how many jokes about it they sneak into dead pool two at the last minute
 
2017-12-06 01:55:58 AM  

loonatic112358: scottydoesntknow: Non Sequitur Man: Is Deadpool included in the deal? PG-13 Deadpool is not okay.

[img.fark.net image 400x216]

If there's one thing Disney cares more about than a "family-friendly" image, it's money. And there's no way in hell they'd let a movie/potential franchise that pulled in a 1300+% ROI fall apart with a PG-13 rating. The R-rating was one of the biggest initial selling points.

I am not worried about Disney/Marvel acquiring Fox's characters.

I'd love to see how many jokes about it they sneak into dead pool two at the last minute


Hee hee, I can just imagine.
 
2017-12-06 01:56:47 AM  

Surool: Nefarious: null: Nefarious: Alphax: It's a bit rough to add mutants to the MCU at this point, or even AoS for that matter.  What, they successfully hid from EVERYONE until now?

Coulson: 'There was a mention of mutants in Nick Fury's toolbox, but I didn't see a reason to bring them up..'

Thanos can fix the continuity between War and Avengers 4

Not without a farkton of reshoots.

Though if the fandom demanded it and Disney thought it could work, they would postpone Avengers 4 and rework everything.

My comment was more on how to get mutants into the MCU they turn up after Thanos farks with reality in Avengers 3. In the fixed reality they always were there

After credit scene for Infinity War

Doctor Strange: It's not just the casualties, Thanos managed to alter reality itself. Not to mention he's drawn the attention of powerful alien races to Earth. We're going to need everyone we can find to help protect the world in the coming years. Do you think we can find enough people who could manage a fight like this?

Camera pans down to a bald man in a wheel chair

Professor X: We have more resources at our disposal than you realize.


I like to think that someone at MarvelDisney has been continuously writing drafts for the "we get the rights back" contingencies.

The catch is though that right now Avengers 3 and 4 are for all practical purposes "in the can" with the exception of the CGI stuff.  If they acquired the 20th Century Fox assets today, with no regulatory hurdles in the way, they would have to take extraordinary measures to integrate them into the MCU, especially by May 4th of next year, or even May 3rd of 2019.  I'm also sure that they'd pay hefty fines to the toy manufacturers and so on that have product ready to go.

Then again, if Disney thought it was worth it, they'd do it.
 
2017-12-06 02:10:44 AM  

wildcardjack: While you focused in on the movies, I'd be a little concerned about ownership concentration. Remember, Disney = ABC and ESPN, and considerable other interests.


Taco Bell Disney was the only restaurant movie company to survive the franchise studio war. So, now all restaurants studios are Taco Bell Disney.

null: Non Sequitur Man: I'd be cool with PG-13 Deadpool if he said "fark" every time he would've said "f*ck".
Nah, he should go through the whole list of made-up swear words out of other things, like frak, frell, silflay hraka, Belgium, turlingdrome, -ing, gorram, etc.

Only if he has a cutaway explaining that he knows nerds are watching, so he'll use fictional curse words they're familiar with to avoid the bleeps that only he, we, and the censors can hear. And presumably Colossus will comment on being proud that he's finally trying to stop swearing so much.
 
2017-12-06 02:12:52 AM  
Disney is getting to big, pretty soon they are going to own every network, and studio out there. There used to be laws to stop companies from getting so big. They broke up AT&T for this kind of shiat, but then they bought all that shiat right back later.
 
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