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(Yahoo)   Another day, another somewhat famous person accused of sexual assault. No, subby has never heard of her either. Yes, I said her   ( yahoo.com) divider line
    More: Creepy, Sexual intercourse, Singer Melanie Martinez, Timothy Heller, Los Angeles-based Heller, Social media, p.m. local time, social media platforms, Human sexual behavior  
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2017-12-05 10:04:39 AM  
Not a fan of playing judge in the game of Liar-or-Rapist.  Can't we just go back last year's trend of celebrities dying?
 
2017-12-05 10:06:08 AM  
"She never said No".

Sorry honey, judges don't buy that one.

/I'm told.
 
2017-12-05 10:09:16 AM  
Who's next, Betty White?  Because, why not?
 
2017-12-05 10:28:59 AM  
The alleged incident was detailed by Timothy Heller, herself an aspiring musician

Ti-mo-thy?
 
2017-12-05 10:35:50 AM  

whither_apophis: The alleged incident was detailed by Timothy Heller, herself an aspiring musician

Ti-mo-thy?


There are some who call her....Tim.
 
2017-12-05 11:24:44 AM  

8 inches: "She never said No".

Sorry honey, judges don't buy that one.

/I'm told.


Consent is a complicated issue, man. Lot of ins, lot of outs, lot of whathaveyou. Lot a strands going on in the ol' Duder's head.
 
2017-12-05 11:24:44 AM  
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She's not clutching a modified wooden toiletpaper roll holder in that pictture by any chance, is she?
 
2017-12-05 11:28:51 AM  
One lesbian diddled the other with a dildo.  One of the lesbians is named timothy.  This is hard to parse.  And I don't think it's assault.  Ragerts, maybe.
 
2017-12-05 11:31:43 AM  
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2017-12-05 11:32:26 AM  
Singer Melanie Martinez, who rose to fame

WUT?
 
2017-12-05 11:32:47 AM  
I think her response of, "crybaby" was pretty insensitive given the accusation.
 
2017-12-05 11:33:13 AM  

Slypork: [img.fark.net image 283x196]


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2017-12-05 11:35:11 AM  
This reads like a bad "Dear Penthouse" letter, although I did read the entire thing and googled pictures of both of them.


/i'm so ashamed
//....no i'm not
 
2017-12-05 11:35:19 AM  

whither_apophis: The alleged incident was detailed by Timothy Heller, herself an aspiring musician

Ti-mo-thy?


She inserted to the Lee of the bone
 
2017-12-05 11:35:32 AM  

Priapetic: I think her response of, "crybaby" was pretty insensitive given the accusation.


I was thinking that "Well, she never said No." was a pretty stupid response because it admits guilt and simultaneously confirms the story is true.
 
2017-12-05 11:36:20 AM  
Is this someone we like, Fark?

If so, her actions are likely Takei-esque "romantic misunderstandings".

If not, BURN THE WITCH!!!
 
2017-12-05 11:36:46 AM  

Ambivalence: Who's next, Betty White?  Because, why not?


Who would say no to Betty?
 
2017-12-05 11:38:51 AM  

Bslim: Singer Melanie Martinez, who rose to fame

WUT?


Very famous within a select audience.
 
2017-12-05 11:43:58 AM  
 
2017-12-05 11:45:07 AM  

Ambivalence: Who's next, Betty White?  Because, why not?


Technically, Betty White has the implied consent of everyone.
 
2017-12-05 11:46:28 AM  
Uh oh. "Believe the woman". Uh ...

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2017-12-05 11:51:52 AM  

Bl4CK ME54: http://www.patheos.com/blogs/nosacred​c​ows/2017/10/neil-degrasse-tyson-accuse​d-of-rape/


Huh.
 
2017-12-05 11:58:22 AM  

chaoswolf: Bl4CK ME54: http://www.patheos.com/blogs/nosacredc​ows/2017/10/neil-degrasse-tyson-accuse​d-of-rape/

Huh.


Yeah, that story's from October.
I don't know why it hasn't gotten any coverage since then, particularly from any remotely mainstream sources, except that maybe the bigger journalists smell b.s.
 
2017-12-05 12:06:30 PM  
*sigh*

*zip*

*fapfapfap*
 
2017-12-05 12:12:23 PM  

Fano: whither_apophis: The alleged incident was detailed by Timothy Heller, herself an aspiring musician

Ti-mo-thy?

She inserted to the Lee of the bone


That reference...I understand it...Thanks Auntie Shrew
 
2017-12-05 12:12:51 PM  

Dimensio: Ambivalence: Who's next, Betty White?  Because, why not?

Technically, Betty White has the implied consent of everyone.


Just to be clear - even with her being 95, she's got mine explicitly.
 
2017-12-05 12:16:07 PM  

GanjSmokr: Dimensio: Ambivalence: Who's next, Betty White?  Because, why not?

Technically, Betty White has the implied consent of everyone.

Just to be clear - even with her being 95, she's got mine explicitly.


I'm in

Hey, they make lube for a reason
 
2017-12-05 12:21:30 PM  

Bslim: Singer Melanie Martinez, who rose to fame minor notoriety.

WUT?


Fixed
 
2017-12-05 12:22:15 PM  
I don't believe it. Women have ways of shutting down their harassment urges.
 
2017-12-05 12:24:05 PM  

Ambivalence: Who's next, Betty White?  Because, why not?


Getting sexually harassed or assaulted by Betty White is now on the TOP of my bucket list!

/I probably need to up a rush on that one
 
2017-12-05 12:27:25 PM  
so is the other woman named "Timothy" actually a biological woman, or is she a man presenting as a "woman"?
or is this just the sequel to a Johnny Cash song?
 
2017-12-05 12:29:19 PM  
Happy International Women's Day!
 
2017-12-05 12:42:03 PM  

Stratohead: so is the other woman named "Timothy" actually a biological woman, or is she a man presenting as a "woman"?
or is this just the sequel to a Johnny Cash song?


Be it a biological man or a woman, it is a woman that obviously was cool with everything until pegging got put on the table.
 
2017-12-05 12:48:00 PM  

wellreadneck: She's not clutching a modified wooden toiletpaper roll holder in that pictture by any chance, is she?


Nope

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2017-12-05 12:49:07 PM  
the important thing is that we believe the accuser.

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2017-12-05 12:53:40 PM  
Damn, hope this is a nothingtaco.

My daughter really likes her music.

/do you like my quasi-ambiguous re-rendering of "nothingburger," Mr Powers?
//hardshell, it's racist
///softshell, it's sexist
 
2017-12-05 12:54:59 PM  

Rev. Skarekroe: chaoswolf: Bl4CK ME54: http://www.patheos.com/blogs/nosacredc​ows/2017/10/neil-degrasse-tyson-accuse​d-of-rape/

Huh.

Yeah, that story's from October.
I don't know why it hasn't gotten any coverage since then, particularly from any remotely mainstream sources, except that maybe the bigger journalists smell b.s.


As with many of the accusations lately, I hope it's not true but if it is, I would no longer be surprised.

/finding the whole thing sad
//guilty of harassment and other BS I pulled in my twenties, probably guilty of more than I know
///got nothin for the third
 
2017-12-05 12:56:18 PM  
This is a really tough exercise in how to frame a statement that isn't 'victim blaming' but I'll try.

I feel like somebody's mental state making them incapable of saying no while shiatty to exploit maliciously is at least somewhat mitigating here.

"I really didn't want it but I couldn't say so because I was messed up but you should have known that." is a messy way to frame an accusation of rape especially one that involves two very young people of the same sex who may or may not have one foot in the closet even with their best friends.
 
2017-12-05 12:58:37 PM  
So, what's happening here? Is she just sharing her story? Is she trying to publicly shame the accused? Is she going to the police?

It's great that people feel safe enough to share their stories, but rape is a criminal act, I hope that people coming forward with recent stories have also gone to the police.
 
2017-12-05 01:06:16 PM  

chaoswolf: Rev. Skarekroe: chaoswolf: Bl4CK ME54: http://www.patheos.com/blogs/nosacredc​ows/2017/10/neil-degrasse-tyson-accuse​d-of-rape/

Huh.

Yeah, that story's from October.
I don't know why it hasn't gotten any coverage since then, particularly from any remotely mainstream sources, except that maybe the bigger journalists smell b.s.

As with many of the accusations lately, I hope it's not true but if it is, I would no longer be surprised.

/finding the whole thing sad
//guilty of harassment and other BS I pulled in my twenties, probably guilty of more than I know
///got nothin for the third


She wanted to be the first "galactic astronomy", and the entire story is told by someone, with no statement from the actual accuser at all. If it smelled any more like horse shiat my nose would have to be in a horse's asshole.

/he offered me a clear liquid in the shell of a coconut.
 
2017-12-05 01:19:45 PM  

JokerMattly: chaoswolf: Rev. Skarekroe: chaoswolf: Bl4CK ME54: http://www.patheos.com/blogs/nosacredc​ows/2017/10/neil-degrasse-tyson-accuse​d-of-rape/
She wanted to be the first "galactic astronomy", and the entire story is told by someone, with no statement from the actual accuser at all. If it smelled any more like horse shiat my nose would have to be in a horse's asshole.

/he offered me a clear liquid in the shell of a coconut.


The story sounds like a vivid dream or a bad trip.  Or she was getting scammed by a look alike - Neal DiGrass Tisson.  Not saying it ain't so, but it read very oddly.
 
2017-12-05 01:38:44 PM  

I_Am_Weasel: whither_apophis: The alleged incident was detailed by Timothy Heller, herself an aspiring musician

Ti-mo-thy?

There are some who call her....Tim.


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2017-12-05 01:46:12 PM  

Egoy3k: This is a really tough exercise in how to frame a statement that isn't 'victim blaming' but I'll try.

I feel like somebody's mental state making them incapable of saying no while shiatty to exploit maliciously is at least somewhat mitigating here.

"I really didn't want it but I couldn't say so because I was messed up but you should have known that." is a messy way to frame an accusation of rape especially one that involves two very young people of the same sex who may or may not have one foot in the closet even with their best friends.


"I said every form of no I could think of" - the victim.
 
2017-12-05 01:47:54 PM  

JokerMattly: chaoswolf: Rev. Skarekroe: chaoswolf: Bl4CK ME54: http://www.patheos.com/blogs/nosacredc​ows/2017/10/neil-degrasse-tyson-accuse​d-of-rape/

Huh.

Yeah, that story's from October.
I don't know why it hasn't gotten any coverage since then, particularly from any remotely mainstream sources, except that maybe the bigger journalists smell b.s.

As with many of the accusations lately, I hope it's not true but if it is, I would no longer be surprised.

/finding the whole thing sad
//guilty of harassment and other BS I pulled in my twenties, probably guilty of more than I know
///got nothin for the third

She wanted to be the first "galactic astronomy", and the entire story is told by someone, with no statement from the actual accuser at all. If it smelled any more like horse shiat my nose would have to be in a horse's asshole.

/he offered me a clear liquid in the shell of a coconut.


Do you mean like the several paragraph long statement in the middle from the victim that goes into detail on everything that happened?
 
2017-12-05 01:49:04 PM  

meanmutton: Egoy3k: This is a really tough exercise in how to frame a statement that isn't 'victim blaming' but I'll try.

I feel like somebody's mental state making them incapable of saying no while shiatty to exploit maliciously is at least somewhat mitigating here.

"I really didn't want it but I couldn't say so because I was messed up but you should have known that." is a messy way to frame an accusation of rape especially one that involves two very young people of the same sex who may or may not have one foot in the closet even with their best friends.

"I said every form of no I could think of" - the victim.


How many is that?
 
2017-12-05 01:53:39 PM  

meanmutton: "I said every form of no I could think of" - the victim.


That would mean a lot more if she hadn't just given a long explanation of why saying no was difficult for her and followed it with statements about how her objection was in the form of informing her alleged rapist that she had a boyfriend.
 
2017-12-05 02:02:30 PM  
The farking hypocrisy here is astounding.
 
2017-12-05 02:07:32 PM  
For those asking...
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2017-12-05 02:53:21 PM  

xaks: GanjSmokr: Dimensio: Ambivalence: Who's next, Betty White?  Because, why not?

Technically, Betty White has the implied consent of everyone.

Just to be clear - even with her being 95, she's got mine explicitly.

I'm in

Hey, they make lube for a reason


95, she is textured for more pleasure
 
2017-12-05 02:53:38 PM  
Ok I am having a problem with the story as reported.

"detailed by Timothy Heller, herself an aspiring musician, who, in a four-part tweet, recounted a night during which she "repeatedly said no" to Martinez's sexual advances. Heller accuses Martinez of forceful penetration with a sex toy, among other acts. "

Did Martinez have power of some sort over Timothy?
Did she drug or give too much alcohol to Timothy?
Did she physically overpower Timothy? I am having a hard time seeing 120 lbs Martinez overpowering anyone.

I found this on People.com (sorry if link is off, new to Fark posting)
"Timothy Heller accused Martinez, 22, of getting her high on marijuana before forcefully performing oral sex and using a sex toy on her. Heller also said she repeatedly refused Martinez's propositions over the course of a two-night "sleepover," using excuses such as that her boyfriend would be mad or that she was tired ,"

So was it "No I do not want to have sex with you."
Or "I am too tired to have sex."
Those are two different answers.
I have never smoked pot in my life. Does it impair your judgement like alcohol does?

"After multiple attempts to touch her, Martinez proceeded to perform "oral sex on me and then I was penetrated with a sex toy without being asked," the woman alleged. "She knew I didn't want to, I made that clear," noting that she was "completely not reciprocating."
If reciprocity is one of the lines between consent or sexual assault than everyone is screwed because not all sexual acts are done for both partners sexual arousal benefit. Even dudes can do their ladies a favor when they are not in the mood though that is by consent.

And seriously who stays multiple nights with someone that they feel is trying to sexually assault them? Was she homeless and had no place to go (which could be a form of power Martinez exerted over Timothy to force sex). She had a boyfriend at the time so I am guess she did have options on where to stay.

I am not saying what did or did not happen, I wasn't there. However as a society we are getting dangerously close to obscuring "sexual assault" with "regret". Both can be very damaging but only one is illegal.
 
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