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(Washington Post)   Research finds that anti-vaxxers are more concerned with the idea of "purity" than the health of their children, and they might possibly be less likely to base their decisions on facts   ( washingtonpost.com) divider line
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2017-12-04 02:47:46 PM  
"Purity?"

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2017-12-04 03:29:07 PM  
If you have created a child there is no purity. READ YOUR BIBLE.
 
2017-12-04 03:51:45 PM  
Too bad they won't be bothered to read or comprehend the research in the article.
 
2017-12-04 05:53:31 PM  
So live, vaccinated autistic children (despite vaccines not causing autism) are impure while dead from ano otherwise preventable disease children are pure.

Got it.

fark antivaxxers.
 
2017-12-04 06:31:51 PM  

meat0918: So live, vaccinated autistic children (despite vaccines not causing autism) are impure while dead from ano otherwise preventable disease children are pure.

Got it.

fark antivaxxers.


Don't try to confuse them with trivialities like FACTS and LOGIC, that's not fair.
 
2017-12-04 06:35:54 PM  
Fact : 99% of anti-vaxxers do not hold an 8- 12 year degree in microbiology, pharmacology or immunology.
 
2017-12-04 06:41:59 PM  

edmo: If you have created a child there is no purity. READ YOUR BIBLE.


FYI, that whole "original sin" thing is not biblical. It's christian dogma.
 
2017-12-04 06:47:13 PM  
No shiat, Sherlock...
 
2017-12-04 06:56:52 PM  
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2017-12-04 06:58:24 PM  
"Purity" is an insane concept for a human to value considering that we're all covered in and infested with more bacterial cells than we have actual human cells. Closest anything on this planet is getting to "pure" is, ironically, stuff that's made in a lab.
 
2017-12-04 07:06:14 PM  
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2017-12-04 07:21:16 PM  
The concept of purity never entered my mind.   I'm not anti-vaxx, per se, but i know many.  Even though i live in Liberal California, i can point to a handful just at my job, and have heard their complaints.   They rank generally in this order.

Some people don't like being told what to do.
Some think the amounts of shot are too much... too over-burdening on the system.
Some people don't trust the white man.
 
2017-12-04 07:30:32 PM  
You don't want your child becoming crippled due to polio, which would lead them to a life dependent on the welfare state, do you?
 
2017-12-04 07:31:59 PM  
You live with apes, man. It's hard to keep clean.
 
2017-12-04 07:39:39 PM  

T.rex: The concept of purity never entered my mind.   I'm not anti-vaxx, per se, but i know many.  Even though i live in Liberal California, i can point to a handful just at my job, and have heard their complaints.   They rank generally in this order.

Some people don't like being told what to do.
Some think the amounts of shot are too much... too over-burdening on the system.
Some people don't trust the white man.


So if you're not per se... There's a way of seeing you in a light that might make us think that you would be an antivaxxer.

Care to elaborate on your stance?
 
2017-12-04 07:44:46 PM  

Occam's Disposable Razor: "Purity" is an insane concept for a human to value considering that we're all covered in and infested with more bacterial cells than we have actual human cells. Closest anything on this planet is getting to "pure" is, ironically, stuff that's made in a lab.


"Purity" is a quite useful and very primitive moral concern - the impure is what causes the emotion of disgust. If Donald Trump disgusts you then you can probably list the moral contaminants he is full of. Purity is why humans don't eat shiat and do avoid sick people, and are behind pure food and drug laws.

Of course purity can be taken too far. Racists often regard other races as contaminating. Kosher laws can be senseless such as Kosher_wine - regular wine if it has any contact by anybody other than observant Jews from its production to serving is not Kosher, however if it is boiled then it is Kosher even it non Jews touch it.
 
2017-12-04 07:56:14 PM  

Quantumbunny: T.rex: The concept of purity never entered my mind.   I'm not anti-vaxx, per se, but i know many.  Even though i live in Liberal California, i can point to a handful just at my job, and have heard their complaints.   They rank generally in this order.

Some people don't like being told what to do.
Some think the amounts of shot are too much... too over-burdening on the system.
Some people don't trust the white man.

So if you're not per se... There's a way of seeing you in a light that might make us think that you would be an antivaxxer.

Care to elaborate on your stance?


"Us"?   Am i on trial?   And if so, why do you need a team to try me?  Why not ask me, just for you?

My stance is that i believe generally in the efficacy and safety in vaccines to the extent that its in a parent's best interest to just go ahead and do it... but i get uneasy with the notion that parents can be mandated to vaccinate their kids.   I get the 'why', but i still don't like it.
 
2017-12-04 08:24:40 PM  

solarpoweredschittmachine: Fact : 99% of anti-vaxxers do not hold an 8- 12 year degree in microbiology, pharmacology or immunology.


If 1% of anti-vaxxers *DO* hold those degrees, I think we should all be very, very, afraid.
 
2017-12-04 08:27:52 PM  

King Something: [i.imgur.com image 600x532]


Even in the original, the Pied Piper was the good guy.

Yeah, he *stole* the town's children - he took them away from a whole town full of lying bastards who unanimously engaged in fraud and theft of services as a matter of course and would have raised their kids to do likewise.
 
2017-12-04 08:28:39 PM  

T.rex: Quantumbunny: T.rex: The concept of purity never entered my mind.   I'm not anti-vaxx, per se, but i know many.  Even though i live in Liberal California, i can point to a handful just at my job, and have heard their complaints.   They rank generally in this order.

Some people don't like being told what to do.
Some think the amounts of shot are too much... too over-burdening on the system.
Some people don't trust the white man.

So if you're not per se... There's a way of seeing you in a light that might make us think that you would be an antivaxxer.

Care to elaborate on your stance?

"Us"?   Am i on trial?   And if so, why do you need a team to try me?  Why not ask me, just for you?

My stance is that i believe generally in the efficacy and safety in vaccines to the extent that its in a parent's best interest to just go ahead and do it... but i get uneasy with the notion that parents can be mandated to vaccinate their kids.   I get the 'why', but i still don't like it.


Oh you're noted as an antivaxxer.

Unless a different dinosaur was going on about HIV being causes by the polio vaccine.
 
2017-12-04 08:28:50 PM  
Well as much as the concepts of liberty and purity weighed on my decision - not wanting my child to die of an easily preventable disease was pretty much the deciding factor for me.
 
2017-12-04 09:12:34 PM  
Do you realize that vaccination is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face?
 
2017-12-04 09:38:17 PM  

Occam's Disposable Razor: "Purity" is an insane concept for a human to value considering that we're all covered in and infested with more bacterial cells than we have actual human cells. Closest anything on this planet is getting to "pure" is, ironically, stuff that's made in a lab.


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2017-12-04 10:02:27 PM  

HairBolus: Occam's Disposable Razor: "Purity" is an insane concept for a human to value considering that we're all covered in and infested with more bacterial cells than we have actual human cells. Closest anything on this planet is getting to "pure" is, ironically, stuff that's made in a lab.

"Purity" is a quite useful and very primitive moral concern - the impure is what causes the emotion of disgust. If Donald Trump disgusts you then you can probably list the moral contaminants he is full of. Purity is why humans don't eat shiat and do avoid sick people, and are behind pure food and drug laws.

Of course purity can be taken too far. Racists often regard other races as contaminating. Kosher laws can be senseless such as Kosher_wine - regular wine if it has any contact by anybody other than observant Jews from its production to serving is not Kosher, however if it is boiled then it is Kosher even it non Jews touch it.


Mevushal is utter crap.

The laws on kashrut are about winter that might have been connected to sacrifices to idols. For example, if it comes from a winery or vineyard that produces sacramental wine.
 
2017-12-04 10:03:24 PM  

demaL-demaL-yeH: HairBolus: Occam's Disposable Razor: "Purity" is an insane concept for a human to value considering that we're all covered in and infested with more bacterial cells than we have actual human cells. Closest anything on this planet is getting to "pure" is, ironically, stuff that's made in a lab.

"Purity" is a quite useful and very primitive moral concern - the impure is what causes the emotion of disgust. If Donald Trump disgusts you then you can probably list the moral contaminants he is full of. Purity is why humans don't eat shiat and do avoid sick people, and are behind pure food and drug laws.

Of course purity can be taken too far. Racists often regard other races as contaminating. Kosher laws can be senseless such as Kosher_wine - regular wine if it has any contact by anybody other than observant Jews from its production to serving is not Kosher, however if it is boiled then it is Kosher even it non Jews touch it.

Mevushal is utter crap.

The laws on kashrut are about winter that might have been connected to sacrifices to idols. For example, if it comes from a winery or vineyard that produces sacramental wine.


Wines are not winter, motherducking autocorrect.
 
2017-12-04 11:13:11 PM  

Unobtanium: "Purity?"

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I'm glad someone beat Subby to the punch, Mandrake.
 
2017-12-04 11:15:37 PM  

T.rex: The concept of purity never entered my mind.   I'm not anti-vaxx, per se, but i know many.  Even though i live in Liberal California, i can point to a handful just at my job, and have heard their complaints.   They rank generally in this order.

Some people don't like being told what to do.
Some think the amounts of shot are too much... too over-burdening on the system.
Some people don't trust the white man.


As someone who works at a vaccine company I am getting a kick.
Also, very few people at my company are white or male, or even American.
 
2017-12-05 12:22:13 AM  
As everyone knows, absolute pure iron is the absolute best and only metal anyone should use for anything. All those "alloys" are just SICKENING to think about! No, don't tell me how alloys are supposedly better than any one metal! They're IMPURE, and therefore useless!

/what goes through my head when anyone starts with that "purity" stupidity
//notable exception is with food products
///3 is an automatically impure number
 
2017-12-05 12:22:36 AM  

T.rex: Quantumbunny: T.rex: The concept of purity never entered my mind.   I'm not anti-vaxx, per se, but i know many.  Even though i live in Liberal California, i can point to a handful just at my job, and have heard their complaints.   They rank generally in this order.

Some people don't like being told what to do.
Some think the amounts of shot are too much... too over-burdening on the system.
Some people don't trust the white man.

So if you're not per se... There's a way of seeing you in a light that might make us think that you would be an antivaxxer.

Care to elaborate on your stance?

"Us"?   Am i on trial?   And if so, why do you need a team to try me?  Why not ask me, just for you?

My stance is that i believe generally in the efficacy and safety in vaccines to the extent that its in a parent's best interest to just go ahead and do it... but i get uneasy with the notion that parents can be mandated to vaccinate their kids.   I get the 'why', but i still don't like it.


I guess we just come from a different stance. Mine is that 70% or more of people are too dumb to be trusted making decisions that impact other people. I have no qualms with idiots making bad decisions that only impact them. But all of society is built on the premise that your rights end when they impinge on the rights of others.

I do admit, I'm fairly intolerant of viewpoints which include people inflicting harm on others, especially due to their lack of understanding, fear, or ignorance, but hey, that's just me.
 
2017-12-05 01:11:20 PM  

meat0918: T.rex: Quantumbunny: T.rex: The concept of purity never entered my mind.   I'm not anti-vaxx, per se, but i know many.  Even though i live in Liberal California, i can point to a handful just at my job, and have heard their complaints.   They rank generally in this order.

Some people don't like being told what to do.
Some think the amounts of shot are too much... too over-burdening on the system.
Some people don't trust the white man.

So if you're not per se... There's a way of seeing you in a light that might make us think that you would be an antivaxxer.

Care to elaborate on your stance?

"Us"?   Am i on trial?   And if so, why do you need a team to try me?  Why not ask me, just for you?

My stance is that i believe generally in the efficacy and safety in vaccines to the extent that its in a parent's best interest to just go ahead and do it... but i get uneasy with the notion that parents can be mandated to vaccinate their kids.   I get the 'why', but i still don't like it.

Oh you're noted as an antivaxxer.

Unless a different dinosaur was going on about HIV being causes by the polio vaccine.


I just told you quite specifically that i believe in the efficacy and safety of vaccines, generally.   Are you saying i'm lying?   

About 10 years ago, i suggested that polio might have been caused by DDT pesticides, instead of a virus, and that the 'vaccines' simply coincided with DDT being phased out of use.     Its a moot point, today, anyway.   Its not like i ever told anyone not to get a polio shot.    i think they SHOULD get one. 

Vaccines don't always work, but i believe to err on the side of caution, and just get them anyway, even just to avoid people like you with pitchforks, its worth it.    My skepticism doesn't affect you in the slightest when the net result is me getting vaccines anyway.
 
2017-12-05 04:01:28 PM  

T.rex: Quantumbunny: T.rex: The concept of purity never entered my mind.   I'm not anti-vaxx, per se, but i know many.  Even though i live in Liberal California, i can point to a handful just at my job, and have heard their complaints.   They rank generally in this order.

Some people don't like being told what to do.
Some think the amounts of shot are too much... too over-burdening on the system.
Some people don't trust the white man.

So if you're not per se... There's a way of seeing you in a light that might make us think that you would be an antivaxxer.

Care to elaborate on your stance?

"Us"?   Am i on trial?   And if so, why do you need a team to try me?  Why not ask me, just for you?

My stance is that i believe generally in the efficacy and safety in vaccines to the extent that its in a parent's best interest to just go ahead and do it... but i get uneasy with the notion that parents can be mandated to vaccinate their kids.   I get the 'why', but i still don't like it.


There's few things that give me greater pleasure than imagining some strict anti-vaxxer parent angry about their kid getting a vaccine because they had no other choice. We should all be happy to see such willful ignorance and lack of intelligence receive a kick in the ass. Fark them.
 
2017-12-05 08:56:09 PM  
SkittlesAreYum:
There's few things that give me greater pleasure than imagining some strict anti-vaxxer parent angry about their kid getting a vaccine because they had no other choice. We should all be happy to see such willful ignorance and lack of intelligence receive a kick in the ass. Fark them.

You're cool with it, because you happen to be on the side of the argument that is doing the mandating. 
I'm NOT cool with it, because i'm don't think its the government's place to mandate what people do to their bodies, regardless of vaccines being good or bad.      

Would you equally feel the same pleasure if the goverment came out tomorrow and ruled all men must get circumcized?  or if they ruled anyone with a criminal record must be sterilized?     My point is... where does it stop?
 
2017-12-05 11:58:16 PM  

T.rex: SkittlesAreYum:
There's few things that give me greater pleasure than imagining some strict anti-vaxxer parent angry about their kid getting a vaccine because they had no other choice. We should all be happy to see such willful ignorance and lack of intelligence receive a kick in the ass. Fark them.

You're cool with it, because you happen to be on the side of the argument that is doing the mandating. 
I'm NOT cool with it, because i'm don't think its the government's place to mandate what people do to their bodies, regardless of vaccines being good or bad.      

Would you equally feel the same pleasure if the goverment came out tomorrow and ruled all men must get circumcized?  or if they ruled anyone with a criminal record must be sterilized?     My point is... where does it stop?


...with Vaccinations?
 
2017-12-05 11:58:50 PM  
The State also makes people wear glasses to drive, the dastards
 
2017-12-06 12:43:40 AM  

Fano: The State also makes people wear glasses to drive, the dastards


Not allowing the blind to drive is a clear case of discrimination against the visually impaired. And by clear case, I mean I have no idea what I'm looking at...
 
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