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(Entertainment Weekly)   Last night's The Walking Dead exposed Eugene for the genius coward he is and the Trash Romulans for what they are, creepy artists with annoying linguistics. But it still suffered like every other episode this season [WARNING: SPOILERS]   ( ew.com) divider line
    More: Followup, Negan, physically forces Eugene, best possible decision, Intimidation, right choice, Believe... There's Magic in the Stars, Dwight D. Eisenhower, depraved minds  
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2017-12-04 12:56:45 PM  
I don't care what the critics are saying, I'm enjoying it.
 
2017-12-04 01:25:18 PM  
Eugene just go where the wind blows and to whoever can protect him.
 
2017-12-04 01:31:08 PM  

ekdikeo4: I don't care what the critics are saying, I'm enjoying it.


It's not really the critics saying that as much as the people who watch it religiously just to post at places such as here religiously how it sucks now and they're never gonna watch it again and it peaked with Darabont's first episode.

I, for one, am interested to see how like and unlike the comic book the show will deal with Negan. Future Rick is definitely a tip-off.
 
2017-12-04 01:34:47 PM  
I said in last night's thread that it seems this season was written more with an eye towards the streambinging audience than the broadcast audience, but it's not a Netflix Original with the entire season dumped at once.

In a weekly show, each episode needs to be individually contained.  It's good that there are larger arcs and stories going on, but every episode should also tell a complete story.  One of the things I really liked about the USA show Burn Notice was that they kept a really good balance between the story of the week and the story of the season - each episode progressed (or at least seemed to progress) the season arc, while also being a complete and satisfying story unto itself.

In TWD, things continue to happen, but nothing gets resolved.  There's no arcs or plots contained within an episode and resolved within that episode.  There are fragments of arcs, with characters whose individual plotlines are touched on in several successive episodes.  But what was the episode arc last night?  What began and concluded within the episode itself?

Eugene confronted Dwight, and then was confronted by Dwight, to the resolution of nothing.  Eugene was going to nark on Dwight, but then didn't, to the conclusion of nothing.  Darryl used a truck to do a thing, which changed things without actually changing things.  And then *something* happened - somehow the Saviors escaped -  but we don't know how.

And I know next week is the mid-season finale, so something will actually happen, but the episodes between the twice-a-season premieres and finales should tell their own stories AND further the overreaching arc and make us want to see what happens next.  This episode was basically "Nothing's happened yet, but it's about to - be sure to tune in next week"

/The above is a repost from the prior thread
//PS- this doesn't mean I'll tune out.  I enjoy watching the show with my fellow farkers.
 
2017-12-04 01:36:51 PM  

groppet: Eugene just go where the wind blows and to whoever can protect him.


He would have been a much better choice for the FTWD crossover.  The retconning would have been minimal compared to Morgan, and he could have caused the death of a main character through negligence, which is always fun on these shows.
 
2017-12-04 01:46:24 PM  
Eugene's schtick is way past endearing; he's annoying af now. Extremley difficult to progress with any drama when a cartoon character is a lead - even worse than Negan, amazingly.

I'm not out, and will watch till the end but I do think TWD is dying a slow death with each episode and I find myself caring less and less for stupid people doing stupid things, and talking in stupid ways.
 
2017-12-04 01:50:19 PM  
Subby, you just don't know good TV when you see it.  Sure, it's not as good as The Big Bang Theory, but the writing is on par with shows like Westworld and Stranger Things.

Just give it time, the show is still developing it's rich and deeply involved characters.
 
2017-12-04 01:53:47 PM  
It was slow-paced, like most of this season's episodes.  But having Gregory thrown into "jail" with the other Saviors was a nice touch and Rick reminding Trash Romulan Lady that he's got a bigger pair than she does (after beheading their pet armor zombie) were good scenes.

Eugene needs to die.
 
2017-12-04 01:57:59 PM  
I kind of wish Eugene would fully go over to the dark side (IE, nark on Dwight, for instance) instead of his boo hoo woah is me act.
 
2017-12-04 01:58:13 PM  

Galileo's Daughter: It was slow-paced, like most of this season's episodes.  But having Gregory thrown into "jail" with the other Saviors was a nice touch and Rick reminding Trash Romulan Lady that he's got a bigger pair than she does (after beheading their pet armor zombie) were good scenes.

Eugene needs to die.


Give him an axe and hope he doesn't listen to Pink Floyd.
 
2017-12-04 01:58:24 PM  
I have not watched the last 3 episodes (DVRed)...have I missed much?
 
2017-12-04 02:00:14 PM  

Galileo's Daughter: It was slow-paced, like most of this season's episodes.  But having Gregory thrown into "jail" with the other Saviors was a nice touch and Rick reminding Trash Romulan Lady that he's got a bigger pair than she does (after beheading their pet armor zombie) were good scenes.

Eugene needs to die.


Pretty sure Gregory being thrown in the jail was in last week's ep
 
2017-12-04 02:01:07 PM  

BeotchPudding: I have not watched the last 3 episodes (DVRed)...have I missed much?


You have missed absolutely nothing that won't be in the "previously on" blurb at the start of the mid-season finale on Sunday.
 
2017-12-04 02:02:52 PM  

GungFu: Eugene's schtick is way past endearing; he's annoying af now. Extremley difficult to progress with any drama when a cartoon character is a lead - even worse than Negan, amazingly.

I'm not out, and will watch till the end but I do think TWD is dying a slow death with each episode and I find myself caring less and less for stupid people doing stupid things, and talking in stupid ways.


Lies. Lots of cartoons have real drama just fine.

Eugene is just a terrible character
 
2017-12-04 02:04:02 PM  
Although I feel like the actor is great. He really makes me want to strangle Eugene through the TV with just a few subtle facial expressions.
 
2017-12-04 02:04:48 PM  

GungFu: Eugene's schtick is way past endearing; he's annoying af now. Extremley difficult to progress with any drama when a cartoon character is a lead - even worse than Negan, amazingly.

I'm not out, and will watch till the end but I do think TWD is dying a slow death with each episode and I find myself caring less and less for stupid people doing stupid things, and talking in stupid ways.


The stupid talking has definitely lost its novelty. First they introduced Eugene and Abraham, who talk like comic book characters, and now Negan with his dick-swinging macho shiat. Nobody talks like any of them in real life, and it's annoying and feels forced.

Daryl has been reduced to gutteral grunts because the writers are afraid to change him in any way, so they just make him shoot stuff with his impractical-in-a-firefight crossbow and move on. And I'm not even going to start on the stupid trash people.

King Ezekiel gets a pass because he's the farking King. He owns that shiat. They could center the show around him and the Kingdom, and forget about the original cast, and I'd be fine with it.
 
2017-12-04 02:11:20 PM  

doglover: Although I feel like the actor is great. He really makes me want to strangle Eugene through the TV with just a few subtle facial expressions.


I agree.  When Gabriel invited him to have a seat, his mannerisms and the way he did so were perfect for the character.
 
2017-12-04 02:13:29 PM  
I enjoy it, but with the whole family. We all make fun of it or  get crossed by it together.
Once you realize it's not a zombie show but a survival show with zombies, it's easier to watch.
 
2017-12-04 02:15:17 PM  

Mr Tarantula: King Ezekiel gets a pass because he's the farking King. He owns that shiat. They could center the show around him and the Kingdom, and forget about the original cast, and I'd be fine with it.


Him and Carol. I think Carol should send Negan some flowers.

//Look at the flowers, Negan.
 
2017-12-04 02:52:00 PM  
Eugene musta liked Dwights chode
 
2017-12-04 03:32:12 PM  

Mr Tarantula: Daryl has been reduced to gutteral grunts because the writers are afraid to change him in any way, so they just make him shoot stuff with his impractical-in-a-firefight crossbow and move on.

At least they figured out how to make it rapid fire without him having to reload it or anything...

PlaidJaguar: doglover: Although I feel like the actor is great. He really makes me want to strangle Eugene through the TV with just a few subtle facial expressions.

I agree.  When Gabriel invited him to have a seat, his mannerisms and the way he did so were perfect for the character.

Yeah, I sometimes have to stop myself and say "damn that's a good actor/actress" when somebody makes me really want to jump through the tv screen and kill them.
 
2017-12-04 03:41:49 PM  
Next week may well be the grenades...
If so, that'll be frickin epic.
 
2017-12-04 04:22:17 PM  

Mr Tarantula: King Ezekiel gets a pass because he's the farking King. He owns that shiat. They could center the show around him and the Kingdom, and forget about the original cast, and I'd be fine with it.


This.

I'm getting lost. There's a LOT of other shows and books out there. You have to make your characters more memorable and a lot of their arcs short enough to fit into one episode, or people will forget who the hell they are and why they should care.

I honestly and without apology admit I don't know who the fark the burn faced Savior guy even is. I vaguely remember Neegan burning his face with an iron, but that's it. I couldn't name him and from week to week I forget not only what he did, but that he's even on the show.

Meanwhile, is still remember, maybe will always remember Spider in a Tophat from Star vs the Forces of Evil. First off, the character is named perfectly because he is in fact a spider in a top hat. The episode also shares his name. Second, he has a real journey in the 11 minutes he gets to be on screen. It's animated as a silly cartoon journey, but there's actual pathos there as he struggles to find his place in the world. We can all relate to him. Plus, his name is also his job description, which mirrors another well done character: King (Ezikiel).

King is a good character because he's also unique, has relatable struggles, and short enough arcs you can remember him from week to week. Plus, the tiger helped. Spider in a Top Hat, King with a Tiger... this is how it's done. These are the ones that stick. And if you're not going to be releasing whole seasons in one bloc for ease of binge watching, you NEED characters who stick.
 
2017-12-04 10:18:25 PM  
Why is Eugene betraying his friends. His character just doesn't make sense. One week he's trying to get by (I get that) but than he decides to help Negan win? After what happened with Sasha and what Dwight and those girls have showed him he's all, "Negan is my best friend!" Did I miss an episode where he decides to betray his friends for a good reason?
 
2017-12-04 11:10:27 PM  

doglover: I honestly and without apology admit I don't know who the fark the burn faced Savior guy even is. I vaguely remember Neegan burning his face with an iron, but that's it. I couldn't name him and from week to week I forget not only what he did, but that he's even on the show.


He's the fake Daryl who met Daryl in the woods a few seasons ago. Daryl spared him and his crew, and they hooked up with The Saviors. Later, he captured Daryl and took his bike, vest, and crossbow and turned him over to Negan. Later still, he changed his mind (because we saw that he had to give his wife to Negan, and he himself had his face burned with the iron, and he was kinda sick of Negan's shiat) and let Daryl go (I think). He eventual switched sides but stayed with the Saviors as the spy on the inside, mainly because his wife ran off and killed herself because of Negan's extreme awfulness.

That's how I remember it. It's probably full of holes, but the show has been moving so slow I haven't had a lot of incentive to remember all of it.
 
2017-12-05 03:26:40 AM  

terminalx: Why is Eugene betraying his friends. His character just doesn't make sense. One week he's trying to get by (I get that) but than he decides to help Negan win? After what happened with Sasha and what Dwight and those girls have showed him he's all, "Negan is my best friend!" Did I miss an episode where he decides to betray his friends for a good reason?


No, I think we are just conditioned to see someone like Eugene as intrinsically good. So then he must be friends with his 'traveling companions' which means he must be on their side.

I think once you let go of that and realize the show is doing something interesting with him it all makes sense. He really is not friends with people as we understand the term. He really is mostly interested in his own survival. He really did weigh his options and saw joining Negan as his best choice. Since Negan is his choice, he really is invested in helping Negan.

The counterbalance is he's not dumb, not completely socially ignorant. He knows what friendship is, he has empathy, he knows right from wrong. That's why he's in constant turmoil. He's fully aware of what ensuring his own safety at Negan's side will cost people. That's why he backed off ratting out Dwight when Dwight was right there. He would have ratted him out if he wasn't around. Out of sight, out of mind. But his empathy wouldn't let him do it if he had to watch Negan pulverize him right there. It doesn't help Rick's side that they always talked to him and treated him like a mascot or something. Negan talks to him like he's respected and important.
 
2017-12-05 04:08:47 AM  
WilderKWight:

Yeah, but notice he's Fake Daryl and Neegan stole his wife.

He's a human pronoun. If Rick is Batman, and Neegan the Joker, he's like Random Goon #3
 
2017-12-05 01:09:25 PM  

PlaidJaguar: Galileo's Daughter: It was slow-paced, like most of this season's episodes.  But having Gregory thrown into "jail" with the other Saviors was a nice touch and Rick reminding Trash Romulan Lady that he's got a bigger pair than she does (after beheading their pet armor zombie) were good scenes.

Eugene needs to die.

Pretty sure Gregory being thrown in the jail was in last week's ep


I was trying to get caught up, so it might have been.
 
2017-12-05 03:30:05 PM  
I haven't watched it yet but the episode synopsis on my DVR reads "Rick and his crew continue their conflict with the Saviors" which could apply to every episode the last two years.
 
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