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(Spaceflight Now)   What will the rich do with all that extra tax cut cash? Elon Musk plans on launching a luxury automobile to Mars   ( spaceflightnow.com) divider line
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2017-12-02 11:19:11 AM  
But I thought tax cuts and the rich were evil?!  This headline challenges my whole concept of the way the world works and my political beliefs!  Ahhhhhh!
 
2017-12-02 11:53:54 AM  
He's just trying to artificially increase the average range of his cars.
 
2017-12-02 12:18:06 PM  
"you're putting your tesla roadster on Mars!?"
"well... possibly slightly *under* it, but yeah..."
 
2017-12-02 12:26:57 PM  
The planetary protection folks are going to have major issues with this one.
 
2017-12-02 12:28:13 PM  
Still better than the Utah $billionaire who buried a bunch of gold and supplies in his fallout shelter.
 
2017-12-02 12:36:39 PM  
But Trump said the tax plan won't benefit the rich. Why would he lie? He never has before.
 
2017-12-02 12:37:11 PM  
He was going to do this anyway, but now he an afford the undercoating and extended warranty.
 
2017-12-02 12:43:06 PM  
Is he going to include a charging station?
Otherwise how are the Martians going to get any use out of it?
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2017-12-02 12:48:24 PM  
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2017-12-02 01:06:13 PM  
Someone is going to steal it.
There's going to be a race to see who can be the first galactic car thief.
 
2017-12-02 01:12:21 PM  
"Get your assets to Mars"
 
2017-12-02 01:23:28 PM  

Gubbo: The planetary protection folks are going to have major issues with this one.


He's not gonna land it.  It's not even clear if it's going to orbit Mars ('Mars orbit') or be in the same solar orbit as Mars, perhaps at one of the Trojan points ('Mars orbit').
 
2017-12-02 01:26:57 PM  
No Repo Man references?
 
2017-12-02 01:33:23 PM  

FrancoFile: Gubbo: The planetary protection folks are going to have major issues with this one.

He's not gonna land it.  It's not even clear if it's going to orbit Mars ('Mars orbit') or be in the same solar orbit as Mars, perhaps at one of the Trojan points ('Mars orbit').


I know he won't be landing it. But they still won't like anything being even close to the planet.

/close being a relative term obviously
 
2017-12-02 01:35:36 PM  

FrancoFile: He's not gonna land it. It's not even clear if it's going to orbit Mars ('Mars orbit') or be in the same solar orbit as Mars, perhaps at one of the Trojan points ('Mars orbit').


Or an elliptical transfer orbit which gets out to the same distance as Mars, but without waiting for a launch window to actually meet the planet there. I would still count that as reaching "Mars orbit".
 
2017-12-02 01:43:49 PM  

Catlenfell: Someone is going to steal it.
There's going to be a race to see who can be the first galactic car thief.


Put the Wu-Tang album playing on it and we can send Shkreli after it.
 
2017-12-02 01:48:46 PM  

8 inches: But I thought tax cuts and the rich were evil?!  This headline challenges my whole concept of the way the world works and my political beliefs!  Ahhhhhh!


When your dog wagged its tail as you read them your post before submitting, that didn't actually mean they thought it was a good post, they were just happy that you were talking to them.

If you want good feedback on your posts before submitting them, ask a cat.
 
2017-12-02 02:01:39 PM  
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2017-12-02 02:46:13 PM  
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2017-12-02 02:55:18 PM  

FrancoFile: He's not gonna land it.


Which makes a big difference. There's no need for this thing to actually get close to Mars (read LMO) so this mission would border categories 2 and 3; which is to say they'll probably only need to document why they expect no significant chance of planetary contamination.

I hope he goes for actual orbit around mars. Would go a very long way towards demonstrating the capabilities needed to do a long term mission, and would be a major step in the processes of putting boots on Mars. A January launch is a couple months before the optimal 2018 window, but a first gen Roadster is pretty light and they should have a pretty sizable excess in their energy budget. I need to dig up the 2018 porkchop plot.
 
2017-12-02 03:13:12 PM  
He should launch it into the sun. If he can pull that off I would be much more impressed.
 
2017-12-02 03:48:58 PM  
A Tesla in orbit around Mars would be funny as hell.

Meanwhile, NASA is spending three decades building a modernized Apollo Command Module.
 
2017-12-02 04:25:09 PM  
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2017-12-02 04:28:14 PM  

Flaumig: 8 inches: But I thought tax cuts and the rich were evil?!  This headline challenges my whole concept of the way the world works and my political beliefs!  HUUURRRR DURR DURR DURR!!

When your dog wagged its tail as you read them your post before submitting, that didn't actually mean they thought it was a good post, they were just happy that you were talking to them.

If you want good feedback on your posts before submitting them, ask a cat.


(raises paw)

(flexes paw to show off gleaming titanium claw sheaths)

He can always ask me.
 
2017-12-02 05:14:45 PM  

Kittypie070: Flaumig: 8 inches: But I thought tax cuts and the rich were evil?!  This headline challenges my whole concept of the way the world works and my political beliefs!  HUUURRRR DURR DURR DURR!!

When your dog wagged its tail as you read them your post before submitting, that didn't actually mean they thought it was a good post, they were just happy that you were talking to them.

If you want good feedback on your posts before submitting them, ask a cat.

(raises paw)

(flexes paw to show off gleaming titanium claw sheaths)

He can always ask me.


Hi.
 
2017-12-02 05:31:52 PM  
Pfft, I can get one of those cars very easily. Just find me some cat urine.
 
2017-12-02 06:55:11 PM  
I hope he remembers the keys when he sends a valet to fetch it.
 
2017-12-02 07:01:06 PM  

Northern: No Repo Man references?


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2017-12-02 09:13:20 PM  
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2017-12-02 09:13:20 PM  
He's a crazy guy all right.
 
2017-12-02 10:37:27 PM  
It's one of the old lotus based Roadsters. Probably cheaper than building a new mass simulator...
 
2017-12-02 11:16:16 PM  

Herr Flick's Revenge: Is he going to include a charging station?
Otherwise how are the Martians going to get any use out of it?
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He absolutely needs to send some solar panels, a Tesla Power Pack and a charging cord.  Also it needs to be a Model X. That way when the first human gets to MARS they have something to cruise around in as well as a 'refuel' method.  Can he claim Mars for himself and start a new government?  How would you stop him?
 
2017-12-03 12:23:21 AM  

Kittypie070: He's a crazy guy all right.


Like a fox.
 
2017-12-03 01:20:45 AM  

Gubbo: The planetary protection folks are going to have major issues with this one.


*shrug* What are they gonna do about it? The Outer Space Treaty doesn't apply to private citizens and he can always launch the rocket from a barge in international waters.
 
2017-12-03 06:32:10 AM  
I friggin' love the fact that there's already discussions on the internet of people mulling over the possibility to send a mission out to steal it when and if it's in place.  Because it'd be a very valuable collector's item.  I've even heard one guy mull over if he could get SpaceX to launch the interceptor because it'd be cheaper.
 
2017-12-03 11:17:48 AM  

Cpl.D: I friggin' love the fact that there's already discussions on the internet of people mulling over the possibility to send a mission out to steal it when and if it's in place.  Because it'd be a very valuable collector's item.  I've even heard one guy mull over if he could get SpaceX to launch the interceptor because it'd be cheaper.


I wouldn't be surprised if an early test of the BFS retrieves the Tesla and lands it on the surface of Mars.
 
2017-12-03 01:29:22 PM  

Cry Hentai And Release The Tentacles of War!: Gubbo: The planetary protection folks are going to have major issues with this one.

*shrug* What are they gonna do about it? The Outer Space Treaty doesn't apply to private citizens and he can always launch the rocket from a barge in international waters.


Just seeing this but, SpaceX is going to want to stay on the right side of NASA.
 
2017-12-03 03:31:08 PM  

Gubbo: Cry Hentai And Release The Tentacles of War!: Gubbo: The planetary protection folks are going to have major issues with this one.

*shrug* What are they gonna do about it? The Outer Space Treaty doesn't apply to private citizens and he can always launch the rocket from a barge in international waters.

Just seeing this but, SpaceX is going to want to stay on the right side of NASA.


For starters, no, SpaceX, as a US company, is always governed by US law. Even if he had this hypothetical barge that could perform a launch, he's still under US jurisdiction. If SpaceX were to decide to go rogue, as it were, the US government would simply seize their assets; barge and all. See also, RocketLab Electron; launching out of New Zealand but doing so under FAA approval.

Secondly, it's a more fundamental issue than simply playing nice. SpaceX was already long-prepared to deal with the planetary protection protocols when planning for the now-cancelled Red Dragon mission (incidentally, you can thank NASA for the cancellation), and they've probably given a lot of thought on how to rewrite some of those protocols altogether given that a long term or permanent human presence on Mars will make contamination effectively unavoidable.

Likely, in my opinion, there will be at least two major missions (maybe more) in the near future with two goals. One will be solely dedicated to searching for live on Mars; near, far, high, and low. The second will be an experiment to see how long, if at all, deliberately introduced prokaryotic life can survive in a Martian environment. If the results from these missions are "none" and "not very long" respectively, then I expect planetary protection requirements to be greatly relaxed (though only for Mars). We could then say with high confidence that a human settlement would only have a limited sphere of influence beyond which the martian environment could still be considered unaltered.

To date, there's been little need to actually deal with the issues of humans on another world; but hopefully that'll change soon. SpaceX may well end up spearheading a change on the entire issue.
 
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