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2017-12-02 07:59:18 AM  
Explaining why Longmire is as dry as the Sahara.
 
2017-12-02 08:28:27 AM  

vudukungfu: Explaining why Longmire is as dry as the Sahara.


That guy is killed more people than Jessica Fletcher
 
2017-12-02 09:51:06 AM  
 
2017-12-02 09:52:11 AM  

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2017-12-02 10:18:09 AM  
Also, the article sucks.
 
2017-12-02 10:23:03 AM  

sirrerun: Also, the article sucks.


The author liked Girlboss, of course the article sucks.
 
2017-12-02 10:28:44 AM  

WickerNipple: sirrerun: Also, the article sucks.

The author liked Girlboss, of course the article sucks.


Girlboss had such an obnoxious lead character. I couldn't survive 15 minutes.

The other shows on the list were things I couldn't get into or haven't heard of.
 
2017-12-02 10:30:35 AM  

WickerNipple: sirrerun: Also, the article sucks.

The author liked Girlboss, of course the article sucks.


Hey I liked girlboss.
Mainly cause the actress was freaking hot.

What's weird is the real person on whom the show is based is actually better looking than the actress who portrays her
 
2017-12-02 10:30:40 AM  
This is literally just a slideshow of every show Netflix has ever canceled.  I haven't even heard of half of them.

And what, exactly, is "the dumbest reason" for these shows being canceled?  None of the blurbs actually mention a reason other than occasionally saying, "It was expensive."
 
2017-12-02 10:35:06 AM  
For the record, cancelling a series because its lead actor is a serial sexual abuser is a really stupid reason, but the stupidity is that of the abuser, not the network.
 
2017-12-02 10:41:41 AM  
Longmire was canceled because once Netflix took it over, they changed it. It began as a weekly police procedural about an unconventional small town sheriff solving crimes. Netflix changed it into a long, overly complicated and drawn out plot about Longmire being obsessed with Nighthorse.

I have to admit, after seeing the series finale (spoiler alert), I kind of want to see the show with Cady as sheriff now.
 
2017-12-02 10:42:32 AM  

andrewagill: For the record, cancelling a series because its lead actor is a serial sexual abuser is a really stupid reason, but the stupidity is that of the abuser, not the network.


Apparently it was already slated for cancellation before the Spacey stuff came out.  The only change now is if they're going to be able to go through with that sixth and final season without him, I hope they find a way.
 
2017-12-02 10:43:57 AM  
That article reads like it was written by a 12-year old who took way too much cough syrup.
 
2017-12-02 10:48:06 AM  
Longmire was a great show and wrapped up nicely, I thought.

Sense 8 was cancelled because it was too expensive to produce (at least that's what I had heard since it's an international show and there were on location shoots). The article did not give an explanation as to why it was dumb to cancel this show.

Lastly, Gypsy was terrible. I couldn't watch more than a few episodes before I gave up. It's a show about a woman who has everything getting bored with her life and creating drama. Cancelling a show because people that watched it didn't like it doesn't seem like a bad reason to me.
 
2017-12-02 10:51:52 AM  

vudukungfu: Explaining why Longmire is as dry as the Sahara.


Longmire is basically the crap some producer threw together to try and copy the success of Justified.
 
2017-12-02 10:53:53 AM  
I loved the early, non-idiotic, seasons of Longmire.
 
2017-12-02 10:56:22 AM  

ReapTheChaos: Longmire was canceled because once Netflix took it over, they changed it. It began as a weekly police procedural about an unconventional small town sheriff solving crimes. Netflix changed it into a long, overly complicated and drawn out plot about Longmire being obsessed with Nighthorse.

I have to admit, after seeing the series finale (spoiler alert), I kind of want to see the show with Cady as sheriff now.


I've loved Longmire, but yeah the soap-opera like qualities were a bit of an overkill. Personally 6 seasons seems good, even though a movie or so with Cady at the helm (she always seemed to be the most sane one, Branch notwithstanding) would be nice.
 
2017-12-02 10:56:51 AM  

sirrerun: Also, the article sucks.


Yeah, that was especially brutal, even de-slided.
 
2017-12-02 10:57:36 AM  
16 Netflix Shows That Were Canceled For the Dumbest Reason

1. "fans weren't all that amused."
2.No reason listed.
3. "The costs got too high and the website had to pull the plug."
4. "the costs of production were too much and the viewership was dropping."
5. "expensive AF... it couldn't justify the cost."
6. "wasn't all that popular"
7. "...Luhrmann's inability to continue directing the show due to film obligations."
8. "...only ordered 6 final episodes to the series. Fortunately, fans were happy to get what they did..."
9. "...caught in the clutches of Netflix's TV-show purge..."
10. No reason listed.
11. "...decided the show wasn't good enough to move on..."
12. "...fans just didn't get hyped enough about this..."
13. "...mixed reviews from critics..."
14. No reason listed
15. "...didn't think it was executed properly..."
16. No reason listed.


Where's the "dumb?" I kept looking for "dumbest reasons" and couldn't find any.
 
2017-12-02 10:57:37 AM  
Apparently "too expensive" and "no one was watching" are dumb reasons to cancel a show.
 
2017-12-02 11:00:48 AM  
Lillehammer was an excellent, guilty pleasure.  I laughed a lot.
 
2017-12-02 11:02:46 AM  
Really enjoyed Hemlock Grove.
 
2017-12-02 11:06:30 AM  
Maybe they just wanted to free up some money for Sabrina, The Teenage Witch.  Make it a big-budget effects spectacular.

Yes, it's happening and by the same people as Riverdale.
 
2017-12-02 11:06:34 AM  
I remember watching (most) of season 1 of Marco polo and thinking, "Wow, they spent a lot of money to induce the feeling of boredom in people"
 
2017-12-02 11:07:41 AM  
I'm on board with cancelling all of those, although Hemlock Grove was not bad.  The first few eps were good, but something went wrong, I can't put my finger on it.  I gave up after 6 eps.

I've been saying for a while that Netflix needs to get back to focusing on quality not quantity.  They've been pumping out a lot of crap lately, as evidenced in that list (aside from HG).
 
2017-12-02 11:08:15 AM  

yakmans_dad: I loved the early, non-idiotic, seasons of Longmire.


The more I watched the show, the more I hated the Vic character. Her whininess, her crush on Walt. Was that not obvious in the first few seasons or did it increase?
 
2017-12-02 11:10:54 AM  
I was most disappointed after hearing about The Get Down being cancelled.  That was a great show with some great music.

Yet somehow Fuller House continues on...
 
2017-12-02 11:12:10 AM  

ReapTheChaos: Longmire was canceled because once Netflix took it over, they changed it. It began as a weekly police procedural about an unconventional small town sheriff solving crimes. Netflix changed it into a long, overly complicated and drawn out plot about Longmire being obsessed with Nighthorse.

I have to admit, after seeing the series finale (spoiler alert), I kind of want to see the show with Cady as sheriff now.


I really miss the single contained stories that seemed to be more prevalent before DVRs and binge-watching on Netflix, Hulu, etc. Shows like The Twilight Zone, Columbo, Quantum Leap, o.g. Star Trek (to a lesser extent) where it didn't matter if you hadn't watch any of the season. Whatever happened would be wrapped up by the end of the show, and it wouldn't matter to any shows upcoming (save small easter egg stuff). Sure they had the occasional 2-parter, but even that was usually self contained. Not every show needs multi-episode or full season arcs where every character grows and changes. Sometimes you just want to slip on an old shoe and have a short walk, no strings attached. Maybe it's just my perception, but I can't think of a modern show (other than Black Mirror) that you could watch out of order and have virtually no change in the experience, whereas that seemed to be rather common in the pre-"DVR" days.
 
2017-12-02 11:13:36 AM  

NeoCortex42: I was most disappointed after hearing about The Get Down being cancelled.  That was a great show with some great music.

Yet somehow Fuller House continues on...


Fuller House nearly broke Netflix when it dropped. People enjoy pablum more than wacky 70's kung-fu influenced musical dramas.
 
2017-12-02 11:15:53 AM  
I'm still upset that Showtime canceled Penny Dreadful......

/ it may have something to do with nekid Eva Green and nekid Billie Pipper
 
2017-12-02 11:19:32 AM  
They're clearing out the slate. Which if you're producing a LOT of shows, or at least throwing money to people producing shows that aren't getting eyeballs makes sense. Netflix ISN'T a charity to save shows that you like. It's a business, and it NEEDS eyeballs glued to screens. And they got ambitious to try to appeal to a LOT of different folks, and they overextended.

CW knows their audience, and they've changed up their lineups over the years to appeal to what they are looking for. Pretty much every network does that. Netflix is a slightly different model, but when they started producing their own content, and contracting others to produce content, they got a bit over-excited, and those Neo Yokio was born. They're pruning it back a little. That's not necessarily a bad thing, especially if they learn from it. Same with Hulu. They've got some good shows, they've got good metrics on who they think will subscribe, and Hulu has the ad revenue to keep it rolling, plus the subscription fees.

These are ultimately businesses, and some shows ARE better than others. Netflix took a chance on some shows, and they have the luxury of knowing EXACTLY how many people are watching their stuff, while TV networks have guesswork and third parties to monitor who is tuning in.

I hope that this bubble period taught them execs at Netflix something about getting over ambitious. They've got a decent model, and good instincts, overall, for what their audience is looking for. I just hope that they keep it up, because they've put together some great shows. And some OK shows. And a few that are not great. You learn from the mistakes. Good on them for trimming things, really, because that frees up money and resources for other projects, and getting choosier isn't a bad thing.
 
2017-12-02 11:22:09 AM  

iheartscotch: I'm still upset that Showtime canceled Penny Dreadful......

/ it may have something to do with nekid Eva Green and nekid Billie Pipper


It sort of lost focus. Plus, again, this allows Showtime to focus on more of what they DO well. Though, yeah, nekkid Eva Green is rarely a bad thing...
 
2017-12-02 11:32:35 AM  

kyuzokai: ReapTheChaos: Longmire was canceled because once Netflix took it over, they changed it. It began as a weekly police procedural about an unconventional small town sheriff solving crimes. Netflix changed it into a long, overly complicated and drawn out plot about Longmire being obsessed with Nighthorse.

I have to admit, after seeing the series finale (spoiler alert), I kind of want to see the show with Cady as sheriff now.

I really miss the single contained stories that seemed to be more prevalent before DVRs and binge-watching on Netflix, Hulu, etc. Shows like The Twilight Zone, Columbo, Quantum Leap, o.g. Star Trek (to a lesser extent) where it didn't matter if you hadn't watch any of the season. Whatever happened would be wrapped up by the end of the show, and it wouldn't matter to any shows upcoming (save small easter egg stuff). Sure they had the occasional 2-parter, but even that was usually self contained. Not every show needs multi-episode or full season arcs where every character grows and changes. Sometimes you just want to slip on an old shoe and have a short walk, no strings attached. Maybe it's just my perception, but I can't think of a modern show (other than Black Mirror) that you could watch out of order and have virtually no change in the experience, whereas that seemed to be rather common in the pre-"DVR" days.


I love a good episode of the week show, but I've lost count of how many have gotten lost down the character development rabbit hole. I understand the need to give the viewers a more personal view into their favorite characters, but you should never get so wrapped up in it that the main premise becomes a subplot.
 
2017-12-02 11:36:10 AM  
BEGIN SIDESHOW

Well... Bye ✋
 
2017-12-02 11:36:26 AM  

NeoCortex42: I was most disappointed after hearing about The Get Down being cancelled.  That was a great show with some great music.

Yet somehow Fuller House continues on...


Yeah. The Get Down was one of my favorite Netflix originals. Granted there was some spotty acting, but it had a decent, if not great, story and fantastic music. The whole "fictional but based on some truths with recognizable historical figures" was a very cool angle to take. Plus, Herizen Guardiola (and her character's friends) are very easy on the eyes. When she shed her church robes in the 'coming out' scene, I nearly had an "Oh God" moment myself.
 
2017-12-02 11:40:40 AM  
checks for Person of Interest....safe!

/we're only Season 3, don't cancel it!
 
2017-12-02 11:41:38 AM  

ReapTheChaos: kyuzokai: ReapTheChaos: Longmire was canceled because once Netflix took it over, they changed it. It began as a weekly police procedural about an unconventional small town sheriff solving crimes. Netflix changed it into a long, overly complicated and drawn out plot about Longmire being obsessed with Nighthorse.

I have to admit, after seeing the series finale (spoiler alert), I kind of want to see the show with Cady as sheriff now.

I really miss the single contained stories that seemed to be more prevalent before DVRs and binge-watching on Netflix, Hulu, etc. Shows like The Twilight Zone, Columbo, Quantum Leap, o.g. Star Trek (to a lesser extent) where it didn't matter if you hadn't watch any of the season. Whatever happened would be wrapped up by the end of the show, and it wouldn't matter to any shows upcoming (save small easter egg stuff). Sure they had the occasional 2-parter, but even that was usually self contained. Not every show needs multi-episode or full season arcs where every character grows and changes. Sometimes you just want to slip on an old shoe and have a short walk, no strings attached. Maybe it's just my perception, but I can't think of a modern show (other than Black Mirror) that you could watch out of order and have virtually no change in the experience, whereas that seemed to be rather common in the pre-"DVR" days.

I love a good episode of the week show, but I've lost count of how many have gotten lost down the character development rabbit hole. I understand the need to give the viewers a more personal view into their favorite characters, but you should never get so wrapped up in it that the main premise becomes a subplot.


House. Started off as mostly one and done with some minor overarching story stuff, but eventually the patient's stories became secondary to the 'drama around House and his team'. Surely there are enough crazy diseases that aren't lupus that this wasn't necessary.
 
2017-12-02 11:43:59 AM  
They want to cancel a certain percent, as in throw crap at the wall and see what sticks. More stuff is sticking than they expected.

It's just not as popular as they want.

So they are cancelling things that aren't failures, hoping to find a blowout.

I can't see this strategy being popular with subscribers, with piles of good but cancelled shows while they look for the next Stranger Things.
 
2017-12-02 11:44:31 AM  

foo monkey: foo monkey: http://deslide.clusterfake.net/?o=html​_table&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.alloy.com%2F​entertainment%2Fcanceled-netflix-shows​-dumb-reason%2F16%2F%3Futm_source%3Dfa​rk%26utm_medium%3Dwebsite%26utm_conten​t%3Dlink%26ICID%3Dref_fark

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Thanks for that.
Weird... of the "16 Shows Cancelled for the Dumbest Reason", about 10 of them listed very good reasons, from excessive costs, directors/actors inavailabilty, to "it sucked". Exactly 2 of the 16 included the stated dumbest reason: "lower hit ratio".

This article was a dumb reason.
 
2017-12-02 11:45:30 AM  

Johnson: checks for Person of Interest....safe!

/we're only Season 3, don't cancel it!


I've got bad news. CBS already pulled the plug, and did it a while ago. But you've got five seasons, so keep on it. And without spoilers, it ties up nicely...
 
2017-12-02 11:47:35 AM  

Johnson: checks for Person of Interest....safe!

/we're only Season 3, don't cancel it!


0_o Person of Interest was cancelled almost 2 years ago.  Netflix just hasn't bought the rights to seasons 4 and 5.
 
2017-12-02 11:49:33 AM  
none of those things being canceled has me sad. many of them should not be ongoing but instead limited to a couple seasons of a complete story, beginning to end. make it like a long-form story that only took 20-30 hours to tell. they dont need to be 7 seasons of varying quality and exhausted plot points. 2-3 seasons tops, imo.

just my 2 cents, er, i mean $10/mth.
 
2017-12-02 12:00:46 PM  

rugman11: This is literally just a slideshow of every show Netflix has ever canceled.  I haven't even heard of half of them.

And what, exactly, is "the dumbest reason" for these shows being canceled?  None of the blurbs actually mention a reason other than occasionally saying, "It was expensive."


Or no one was watching.
Both perfectly legit reasons to cancel a show. The one thing that I fault Netflix with is that as a streaming platform, they should provide a series ending for all their shows. If I see something that looks interesting but a quick google lets me know it ends on a cliffhanger, I'm not gonna watch. Depending on costs, they should offer the show runners a chance to wrap up the story with a final short season. They've done it for a couple of shows. I didn't get into Bloodlines but since I learned it got an ending of sorts, I may give it a shot. They can get some more of their money's worth from cancelled shows by giving some sort of ending.
 
2017-12-02 12:02:38 PM  

hubiestubert: Johnson: checks for Person of Interest....safe!

/we're only Season 3, don't cancel it!

I've got bad news. CBS already pulled the plug, and did it a while ago. But you've got five seasons, so keep on it. And without spoilers, it ties up nicely...


It is quite interesting to watch Jonathan Nolan cracking his knuckles in advance of WestWorld.
 
2017-12-02 12:07:06 PM  

sithon: WickerNipple: sirrerun: Also, the article sucks.

The author liked Girlboss, of course the article sucks.

Hey I liked girlboss.
Mainly cause the actress was freaking hot.

What's weird is the real person on whom the show is based is actually better looking than the actress who portrays her


======================================​=======================

She is hot.  A lot of Netflix shows I starting watching are because the lead/co-lead actress is hot (The OA, Glitch, Orange is the New Black, Travelers.  Even Ozark.)   She's an awesome actress.  But... they gave her a HIDEOUS hair style and her character was a complete biatch.  I could not survive more than a couple episodes before I gave up.

She even made Under the Dome tolerable, and was far hotter in that.  As soon as they killed her off, I stopped watching because other than her hotness, that show was horrifically bad.
 
2017-12-02 12:11:28 PM  

MightyPez: I remember watching (most) of season 1 of Marco polo and thinking, "Wow, they spent a lot of money to induce the feeling of boredom in people"


I really wanted that show to work. It looked so nice but the characters were boring. I love Ghenghis Khan stuff: books, Nat Geographic issues, documentaries...

But with this show, they had Gheghis fighting and killing his brother by the 2nd episode with zero character development on either to provide emotional context for such an event. And it didn't get any better on the character aspect after that.
 
2017-12-02 12:13:04 PM  
RIP marco polo you were too good for netflix apparently
 
2017-12-02 12:15:11 PM  

ReapTheChaos: Longmire was canceled because once Netflix took it over, they changed it. It began as a weekly police procedural about an unconventional small town sheriff solving crimes. Netflix changed it into a long, overly complicated and drawn out plot about Longmire being obsessed with Nighthorse.

I have to admit, after seeing the series finale (spoiler alert), I kind of want to see the show with Cady as sheriff now.


First of all, I was thinking I was the only one interested in seeing a show about Cady as the sheriff.

Second, he was always obsessed with Nighthorse and especially Malachi. I started rewatching the early episodes after watching the final season and while Walt clearly has it much more for Malachi, he's no fan of Nighthorse. Interesting to me, though, is how the early seasons paint Nighthorse in a much darker way, he becomes a more sympathetic character as the show goes on. But the overall coolest character, I think, is Mathias.
 
2017-12-02 12:16:06 PM  
16 Netflix Shows That Were Canceled For the Dumbest Reason

#4. Netflix found that the costs of production were too much and the viewership was dropping


Uhm, that doesn't sound dumb at all. The actual opposite of dumb, in fact.

/article is dumb
/author dumber
 
2017-12-02 12:16:41 PM  

NeoCortex42: Maybe they just wanted to free up some money for Sabrina, The Teenage Witch.  Make it a big-budget effects spectacular.

Yes, it's happening and by the same people as Riverdale.


The Chilljng Adventures of Sabrina gets pretty dark and gruesome, so I think it fits a hell of a lot better on Netflix, so they can go all out with the Black Mass:

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