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(Daily Mail)   Chicken soup DOES help fight off a cold. Here comes the science ... and a winning recipe   ( dailymail.co.uk) divider line
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2017-12-02 08:06:25 AM  
When you make broth, freeze it and use it for your next broth,,, repeat.
That is your cold killing recipe.
Use garlic every time,,, onions and garlic, and keep adding better than bullion.
It should gell at room temp to be effective.
The bone broth, should be downed when hot.
 
2017-12-02 09:33:17 AM  
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2017-12-02 09:38:15 AM  

vudukungfu: When you make broth, freeze it and use it for your next broth,,, repeat.


When I make broth, I freeze it in 1/2 cup cubes - how many should I use in my next broth?

My Thanksgiving turkey broth was my first that gelled at room temp. I've never gotten that much collagen in  a chicken broth before. I wonder if it was because I let the bones simmer in the Crock Pot overnight or because for chicken broth I usually just use a bunch of legs and not a whole carcass.
 
2017-12-02 09:55:08 AM  
I get all my science from the Daily Mail
 
2017-12-02 10:45:10 AM  
Can't we be done with the 1990s already??

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2017-12-02 11:24:02 AM  
Matzo.  Ball.  Soup.

That is all.
 
2017-12-02 11:26:38 AM  
"When a poor man has chicken soup, either he is sick or the chicken was."
 
2017-12-02 11:31:02 AM  
Get yourself a rotisserie chicken. Remove the meat. Place the carcass in a stock pot and cover it with fresh water. Add, roughly chopped, an onion, a couple celery stalks and a couple of carrots. Throw in some peppercorns and a few cloves of crushed garlic. Feel free to add some fresh parsley and/or thyme. Simmer (not boil) for 2 hours. Remove the solids and strain the stock.

That's the basis for the ultimate chicken soup: homemade stock. Then all you have to do is build the soup from that (start by sautéing aromatics, add crushed garlic and diced ginger, deglaze with a little brandy or white wine, add stock, add carrots, celery. simmer for an hour or so. Add chicken meat. Then add noodles at the end (I like the really thin German ones).
 
2017-12-02 11:31:22 AM  
Also useful for defeating super villains.
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2017-12-02 11:35:32 AM  

8 inches: Matzo.  Ball.  Soup.

That is all.


Which is chicken soup with dumplings instead of noodles.
 
2017-12-02 11:51:56 AM  

Herr Flick's Revenge: 8 inches: Matzo.  Ball.  Soup.

That is all.

Which is chicken soup with dumplings instead of noodles.


Yep!  The ORIGINAL chicken soup.
 
2017-12-02 11:55:09 AM  
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. . . . . . . . . . . this study wasn't done on humans . . . . . . . 
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Oh.  Probably should have led with that.
 
2017-12-02 12:04:31 PM  
4. Remove the chicken. The chicken is not used further for the soup.(The meat makes excellent chicken Parmesan.)

That's a weird recipe. So there's no chicken in the chicken soup? And why add chicken wings? What's the purpose of those?
 
2017-12-02 12:12:45 PM  
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2017-12-02 12:21:18 PM  
article says it 'could' so therefore Fark headline says it 'does'. 'could' and 'does' clearly means the same thing here.

/not tried on people counts as science for Daily Mail
 
2017-12-02 12:36:35 PM  
CTRL+F 'symptoms'

"A study found that chicken soup could ease the symptoms of upper respiratory infections because it contains anti-inflammatory agents."

So basically, all it's doing is helping you not feel so crappy, it's not actually 'fighting' anything.

// which is the same deal as off-the-shelf decongestants, and other medications.

// on the rare occasions I get a cold, a half shot of sambuca clears my sinuses. The cost per ounce is about the same as nyquill and it doesn't taste as crappy and can actually get used for drinking when you don't have a cold (YMMV depending on your like/dislike of licorice flavor).
 
2017-12-02 12:39:38 PM  

lordargent: CTRL+F 'symptoms'

"A study found that chicken soup could ease the symptoms of upper respiratory infections because it contains anti-inflammatory agents."

So basically, all it's doing is helping you not feel so crappy, it's not actually 'fighting' anything.

// which is the same deal as off-the-shelf decongestants, and other medications.

// on the rare occasions I get a cold, a half shot of sambuca clears my sinuses. The cost per ounce is about the same as nyquill and it doesn't taste as crappy and can actually get used for drinking when you don't have a cold (YMMV depending on your like/dislike of licorice flavor).


Also provides nutrients which help the immune system.
It's also in the article.
 
2017-12-02 12:43:40 PM  
Here's the recipe to save you from clicking on The Fail.

GRANDMA'S CHICKEN NOODLE SOUP RECIPE
INGREDIENTS:
    1 5- to 6-pound stewing hen or baking chicken
    1 package of chicken wings
    3 large onions
    1 large sweet potato
    3 parsnips
    2 turnips
    11 to 12 large carrots
    5 to 6 celery stems
    1 bunch of parsley
    Salt and pepper to taste

DIRECTIONS:
    Clean the chicken, put it in a large pot and cover it with cold water. Bring the water to boil.
    Add the chicken wings, onions, sweet potato, parsnips, turnips and carrots. Boil about 1 and a half hours. Remove fat from the surface as it accumulates.
    Add the parsley and celery. Cook the mixture about 45 min. longer.
    Remove the chicken. The chicken is not used further for the soup. (The meat makes excellent chicken Parmesan.)
    Put the vegetables in a food processor until they are chopped fine or pass through a strainer. Both were performed in the present study.
    Add salt and pepper to taste.

(Note: This soup freezes well.)
 
2017-12-02 12:46:38 PM  

lordargent: "A study found that chicken soup could ease the symptoms of upper respiratory infections because it contains anti-inflammatory agents."

So basically, all it's doing is helping you not feel so crappy, it's not actually 'fighting' anything.


TFA: It is suspected that reducing the movement of neutrophils could decrease activity in the upper respiratory tract that causes cold-like symptoms. [...] And the results found just that

So it's actually inhibiting the cells which do the fighting.
 
2017-12-02 12:49:15 PM  
I make lots of chicken stock, but I don't waste a fresh chicken. I make it from leftovers.

1) Roast a chicken
2) Eat the chicken
3) Simmer the remains 2 or 3 hours in a pot full of water with onion and celery
4) Strain the broth

It freezes flat in quart or gallon bags (two bags in case one breaks).
 
2017-12-02 01:06:36 PM  

Herr Flick's Revenge: Also provides nutrients which help the immune system.
It's also in the article.


Yeah, but it's just referring to generic nutrients and nothing specific.

Most soups include ingredients high in nutrients. Grandma's Soup contains more than five vegetables high in fiber, vitamin C and antioxidants.

You can get vitamin c, fiber and antioxidants in plenty of other foods. They're not specific to chicken soup so it's not a relevant data point to me. This basically amounts to ... eat some fruits and veggies instead of junk food (and there are tons of tastier combos than 'chicken soup').

// chicken soup is just cheap and easy to make

// Spicy fried chicken (hot peppers clear up the sinuses as well) along with wedge fries (fiber), and a big glass of lemonade (vitamin c/antioxidants).
 
2017-12-02 02:14:15 PM  

Ivo Shandor: lordargent: "A study found that chicken soup could ease the symptoms of upper respiratory infections because it contains anti-inflammatory agents."

So basically, all it's doing is helping you not feel so crappy, it's not actually 'fighting' anything.

TFA: It is suspected that reducing the movement of neutrophils could decrease activity in the upper respiratory tract that causes cold-like symptoms. [...] And the results found just that

So it's actually inhibiting the cells which do the fighting.


And those cold symptoms?  That's your immune system killing off every infected cell it can find.
 
2017-12-02 02:15:10 PM  
Is there a substitute for celery? I never liked celery in just about anything.
 
2017-12-02 02:32:26 PM  

LaBlueSkuld: Is there a substitute for celery? I never liked celery in just about anything.


It's all bullshiat honey. This isn't some magic formula. Use whatever veggie you prefer.
 
2017-12-02 03:27:43 PM  
I always save some cans of Campbell's Chicken Noodle next to the medicine cabinet.
 
2017-12-02 03:41:38 PM  
I now doubt the existence of chickens. And soup.
 
2017-12-02 04:23:07 PM  
I use chicken carcasses, two for a buck at the Asian market. Still lots of meat left after the breasts have been removed. Much better broth than using leftover roast chicken bones.

The big secret of Jewish Bubbies though?

Chicken feet for that extra gelatin.
 
2017-12-02 04:43:05 PM  

Earl of Chives: LaBlueSkuld: Is there a substitute for celery? I never liked celery in just about anything.

It's all bullshiat honey. This isn't some magic formula. Use whatever veggie you prefer.


I'm not talking about the healing powers of chicken soup per say but so many recipes include celery and I don't know if it's specifically adding something like how the starch from potatoes can have an effect on how a recipe turns out.
 
2017-12-02 04:49:37 PM  

LaBlueSkuld: so many recipes include celery and I don't know if it's specifically adding something


I notice the slight flavor of celery in the broth, and notice the absence when it's not there, but it's not a huge difference.. I would simply skip it if you don't like celery.
 
2017-12-02 04:58:52 PM  

Ashelth: And those cold symptoms? That's your immune system killing off every infected cell it can find.


And phlegm is basically a bacterial graveyard,

// "My immune system is equipped with the biological equivalent of fully automatic military assault rifles with night vision and laser scopes, and we have recently acquired phosphorous grenades, cluster bombs, and anti-personnel fragmentation mines. So when my white blood cells are on patrol reconnoitering my blood stream seeking out strangers and other undesirables, if they see any, ANY suspicious looking germs of any kind, they don't fark around! They whip out their weapons; they wax the motherfarker and deposit the unlucky fellow directly into my colon! Into my colon! There's no nonsense, there's no Miranda warning, there's none of that "three strikes and you're out" shiat, first offense, BAM... into the colon you go!" - George Carlin
 
2017-12-02 05:27:48 PM  
Campbell's chicken noodle soup in a 🥫

Unimaginative
 
2017-12-02 06:32:29 PM  

jaytkay: I make lots of chicken stock, but I don't waste a fresh chicken. I make it from leftovers.

1) Roast a chicken
2) Eat the chicken
2A) roast the bones.
3) Simmer the remains 2 or 3 hours in a pot full of water with onion and celery
4) Strain the broth

It freezes flat in quart or gallon bags (two bags in case one breaks).


You're welcome.
 
2017-12-02 06:44:57 PM  
The recipe tells you to boil the soup. Don't. Just simmer it. Boiling meat toughens it.
 
2017-12-02 08:01:43 PM  
 
2017-12-02 08:12:03 PM  
Great.  Now the Jewish grannies will never shut the hell up about it.
 
2017-12-02 08:17:15 PM  

OgreMagi: Great.  Now the Jewish grannies will never shut the hell up about it.


"I should shut up?  Oy, if only my kids called me once in a blue moon then maybe I wouldn't have to be talking so much..."
 
2017-12-02 08:40:48 PM  
I've never put parsnips, turnips, or sweet potatoes in chicken soup.

I'm more traditional with carrots, celery, and onions.

If I want to up the veggie quotient, I'll add zucchini, broccoli, and cauliflower and spinach.
 
2017-12-02 09:04:57 PM  
I simmer the whole chicken along with chopped carrots, leeks, bay leaves, garlic, peppercorns, a spoonful of Chicken flavored Better Than Bullion and a quartered onion. Let that go for an hour, remove chicken, and strain broth.
I cut up more carrots, leeks, chopped green onion and spices. Throw those back into the strained broth, then remove the meat from the bones and put that in the broth. I break some bigger bones and tie them into cheesecloth. I also add in about a 1/4 cup of cornstarch in water. Let that simmer for another hour. I check taste after half an hour and adjust as needed.
Then add a small can of corn, peas and the pasta. Ten minutes later it's ready.
 
2017-12-02 10:31:46 PM  
Not to take anything away from chicken soup, but, for me, the cure-all is Campbell's Cream of Mushroom soup.  Takes down my flu symptoms like a pro wrestler.  It's probably the massive dose of sodium, I know, but even the low-sodium version works well for me. YMMV.
 
2017-12-02 10:41:56 PM  

jaytkay: Here's the recipe to save you from clicking on The Fail.
GRANDMA'S CHICKEN NOODLE SOUP RECIPE
INGREDIENTS:
    1 5- to 6-pound stewing hen or baking chicken
    1 package of chicken wings
    3 large onions
    1 large sweet potato
    3 parsnips
    2 turnips
    11 to 12 large carrots
    5 to 6 celery stems


That sounds like a lotta veg. I know you can strain it out, but jeez.
And what's a "package" of chicken wings? A dozen? A pound?
 
2017-12-02 11:54:10 PM  

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2017-12-03 12:01:36 AM  
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I've not tried it, but someone on the internet swears by it.
 
2017-12-03 07:38:06 AM  
Not that anyone cares by now, but the article is complete nonsense.

The actual study, which the article didn't bother linking to, says that chicken soup has anti inflammatory properties, in vitro.  Meaning, if you take chicken soup and pour it directly onto your nasal tissues, or better yet inject it into your nasal tissue, it will have anti inflammatory properties.

Since people drink soup, rather than snort lines of it, it isn't going to help.
 
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