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2017-11-30 04:27:48 PM  
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2017-11-30 06:17:03 PM  
technically she is 1900 yers old or so, that is legal in every state

/the more you know
 
2017-11-30 06:44:39 PM  
I'm not somebody who thinks a lot about what happens to my corpse after I die. Donate my brain to science, give my body to some medical students to practice on. Whatever.

But there does kind of seem to be something very disrespectful abiut the sort of things they do with Mummy corpses. I'm pretty sure she was mummified and buried by people who wanted her remains left alone. They put a lot of effort into them. I don't think that the scientific advancement from this kind of research is very noteworthy. It's more interesting curiosities about how people lived a long time ago.

I've always been a fan of knowledge for its own sake, but there's something very macabre about lugging around a 2000 year old corpse of a child and subjecting it to a repeated string of scientific tests just to gain some minimal insight into people who are long dead.
 
2017-11-30 08:18:25 PM  
This headline is really weird...I feel unsafe.
 
2017-11-30 08:20:06 PM  
Your mom is so thin Argonne National Laboratory uses particle accelerator to peer inside her
 
2017-11-30 08:20:39 PM  

MorningBreath: technically she is 1900 yers old or so, that is legal in every state

/the more you know


MILF
 
2017-11-30 08:21:12 PM  
WHY YOU PEER INSIDE MUMMY OF LITTLE GIRL.  IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH AS PROCURED FROM ARID SANDS OF EGYPT?  MAYBE YOU SHARE DRINKS WITH AHKENATEN, TRADE MANY STORY OF MUMMY PRESERVED AND SCHOOL OF oh fark it I just don't care about this post anymore
 
2017-11-30 08:21:27 PM  

Acidicnads: This headline is really weird...I feel unsafe.


It's all a cover for
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2017-11-30 08:23:15 PM  
Pretty shiatty headline to get greened, but since the main page is the same as the politics tab, I guess nobody gives a Fark upstream where these decisions are made to plant threads.

I'm done with Fark for the day. There are tomorrow's to look forward to
 
2017-11-30 08:23:38 PM  

Acidicnads: This headline is really weird...I feel unsafe.


I read that as "Argent Energy" and I was like oh fark it's really happening!

"Demonic presence detected. System lockdown in effect."
 
2017-11-30 08:23:46 PM  

chawco: I'm not somebody who thinks a lot about what happens to my corpse after I die. Donate my brain to science, give my body to some medical students to practice on. Whatever.

But there does kind of seem to be something very disrespectful abiut the sort of things they do with Mummy corpses. I'm pretty sure she was mummified and buried by people who wanted her remains left alone. They put a lot of effort into them. I don't think that the scientific advancement from this kind of research is very noteworthy. It's more interesting curiosities about how people lived a long time ago.

I've always been a fan of knowledge for its own sake, but there's something very macabre about lugging around a 2000 year old corpse of a child and subjecting it to a repeated string of scientific tests just to gain some minimal insight into people who are long dead.


Then it's a good thing you aren't a scientist.
 
2017-11-30 08:24:16 PM  
In before Trump has an orange face like a cheeto and all Republicans are Nazis.
 
2017-11-30 08:24:35 PM  

Acidicnads: This headline is really weird...I feel unsafe.


Wanna relax in my van?
 
2017-11-30 08:26:37 PM  

WTFDYW: Pretty shiatty headline to get greened, but since the main page is the same as the politics tab, I guess nobody gives a Fark upstream where these decisions are made to plant threads.

I'm done with Fark for the day. There are tomorrow's to look forward to


I agree, please don't force current events down our throats. We prefer the view in our sand holes.
 
2017-11-30 08:30:31 PM  
Look at all those quick triggers!

/+1 subby I couldn't have lol'd Moore!
 
2017-11-30 08:30:47 PM  

wearetheworld: In before Trump has an orange face like a cheeto and all Republicans are Nazis.


That ship has sailed a long time ago.
 
2017-11-30 08:39:20 PM  
Great.  Great headline.

//Would laugh again.  A++
 
2017-11-30 08:45:00 PM  

chawco: I'm not somebody who thinks a lot about what happens to my corpse after I die. Donate my brain to science, give my body to some medical students to practice on. Whatever.

But there does kind of seem to be something very disrespectful abiut the sort of things they do with Mummy corpses. I'm pretty sure she was mummified and buried by people who wanted her remains left alone. They put a lot of effort into them. I don't think that the scientific advancement from this kind of research is very noteworthy. It's more interesting curiosities about how people lived a long time ago.

I've always been a fan of knowledge for its own sake, but there's something very macabre about lugging around a 2000 year old corpse of a child and subjecting it to a repeated string of scientific tests just to gain some minimal insight into people who are long dead.


Modern Egypt has nothing but contempt for their pagan forebears except for the tourism dollars it brings in. When I was going through an archaeology program the focus was on ensuring respect, from trying to avoid burials altogether to coordinating with local tribal authorities on rescue archaeology programs where burials were eroding out of the ground. The last traveling Tut exhibit horrified me with how much open contempt they had for the past. For example, discussing how important and sacred the Pharoanic hairpieces were, then selling puffy versions in the attached gift shop.

It's their cultural patrimony to do with as they please but hell, I won't even walk across the platform of a mound even if there's a path across it because you don't break the circle. You can celebrate the past without completely violating it like a biker gang taking down a narc the way Egypt seems to.
 
2017-11-30 08:50:05 PM  
Fun (off topic) tid bit.
Argonne is surrounded by pretty forest full of albino deer.
 
2017-11-30 08:51:11 PM  

chawco: I'm not somebody who thinks a lot about what happens to my corpse after I die. Donate my brain to science, give my body to some medical students to practice on. Whatever.

But there does kind of seem to be something very disrespectful abiut the sort of things they do with Mummy corpses. I'm pretty sure she was mummified and buried by people who wanted her remains left alone. They put a lot of effort into them. I don't think that the scientific advancement from this kind of research is very noteworthy. It's more interesting curiosities about how people lived a long time ago.

I've always been a fan of knowledge for its own sake, but there's something very macabre about lugging around a 2000 year old corpse of a child and subjecting it to a repeated string of scientific tests just to gain some minimal insight into people who are long dead.


I've often thought the same, it's also kinda more thought provoking with these kinds of mummies. I'd never heard of them before, and since TFA couldn't be farked to show us the even the portrait of the mummy being worked on, I went to the googles.

The portraits are fairly realistic, depending on the artist, so they aren't just a idealized mask, or a leering skeleton. They are people.
 
2017-11-30 09:03:14 PM  
Awesome super-villain origin story!
 
2017-11-30 09:07:10 PM  
Headline of the year.  I think we are done here people.  Let's go ahead a close up shop a month early. Enjoy your evening.  Good work people.
 
2017-11-30 09:10:59 PM  

A Gentile in Boca: Fun (off topic) tid bit.
Argonne is surrounded by pretty forest full of albino deer.


Argonne lab is in Chicago. It's run by the University of Chicago and was home to the nation's nuclear experiments early on.
 
2017-11-30 09:10:59 PM  

chawco: I'm not somebody who thinks a lot about what happens to my corpse after I die. Donate my brain to science, give my body to some medical students to practice on. Whatever.

But there does kind of seem to be something very disrespectful abiut the sort of things they do with Mummy corpses. I'm pretty sure she was mummified and buried by people who wanted her remains left alone. They put a lot of effort into them. I don't think that the scientific advancement from this kind of research is very noteworthy. It's more interesting curiosities about how people lived a long time ago.

I've always been a fan of knowledge for its own sake, but there's something very macabre about lugging around a 2000 year old corpse of a child and subjecting it to a repeated string of scientific tests just to gain some minimal insight into people who are long dead.


Funniest thing anyone has said all week!.

Oh wait... You are being serious!?!?!?
 
2017-11-30 09:12:10 PM  

chawco: I'm not somebody who thinks a lot about what happens to my corpse after I die. Donate my brain to science, give my body to some medical students to practice on. Whatever.

But there does kind of seem to be something very disrespectful abiut the sort of things they do with Mummy corpses. I'm pretty sure she was mummified and buried by people who wanted her remains left alone. They put a lot of effort into them. I don't think that the scientific advancement from this kind of research is very noteworthy. It's more interesting curiosities about how people lived a long time ago.

I've always been a fan of knowledge for its own sake, but there's something very macabre about lugging around a 2000 year old corpse of a child and subjecting it to a repeated string of scientific tests just to gain some minimal insight into people who are long dead.


You do know the reason they are using the accelerator on this mummy is so they don't unwrap her. They are trying to keep her in an "untouched" condition as possible while finding more information.
 
2017-11-30 09:12:21 PM  

lostcat: WTFDYW: Pretty shiatty headline to get greened, but since the main page is the same as the politics tab, I guess nobody gives a Fark upstream where these decisions are made to plant threads.

I'm done with Fark for the day. There are tomorrow's to look forward to

I agree, please don't force current events down our throats. We prefer the view in our sand holes.


biatches don't know bout my sand hole.
 
2017-11-30 09:19:17 PM  

Big_Doofus: chawco: I'm not somebody who thinks a lot about what happens to my corpse after I die. Donate my brain to science, give my body to some medical students to practice on. Whatever.

But there does kind of seem to be something very disrespectful abiut the sort of things they do with Mummy corpses. I'm pretty sure she was mummified and buried by people who wanted her remains left alone. They put a lot of effort into them. I don't think that the scientific advancement from this kind of research is very noteworthy. It's more interesting curiosities about how people lived a long time ago.

I've always been a fan of knowledge for its own sake, but there's something very macabre about lugging around a 2000 year old corpse of a child and subjecting it to a repeated string of scientific tests just to gain some minimal insight into people who are long dead.

You do know the reason they are using the accelerator on this mummy is so they don't unwrap her. They are trying to keep her in an "untouched" condition as possible while finding more information.


In the original draft of The Andromeda Strain, Wildfire found the deadly alien virus inside a 500yo Incan mummy. chawco's mom sued and Crichton had to change the source of the alien virus to an asteroid.
 
2017-11-30 09:22:16 PM  

Big_Doofus: A Gentile in Boca: Fun (off topic) tid bit.
Argonne is surrounded by pretty forest full of albino deer.

Argonne lab is in Chicago. It's run by the University of Chicago and was home to the nation's nuclear experiments early on.


Hmmm. You may want to let the building full of science type folks in Lemont, IL know they aren't really working for Argonne. Boy are they going to be pissed!
 
2017-11-30 09:34:32 PM  

chawco: I'm not somebody who thinks a lot about what happens to my corpse after I die. Donate my brain to science, give my body to some medical students to practice on. Whatever.

But there does kind of seem to be something very disrespectful abiut the sort of things they do with Mummy corpses. I'm pretty sure she was mummified and buried by people who wanted her remains left alone. They put a lot of effort into them. I don't think that the scientific advancement from this kind of research is very noteworthy. It's more interesting curiosities about how people lived a long time ago.

I've always been a fan of knowledge for its own sake, but there's something very macabre about lugging around a 2000 year old corpse of a child and subjecting it to a repeated string of scientific tests just to gain some minimal insight into people who are long dead.


I wanna be stuffed/embalmed, and then placed at a table in some dive bar.

The patrons can do with me what they will, and when the bar goes out of business, just dump me in a dumpster.
 
2017-11-30 09:42:40 PM  

lostcat: chawco: I'm not somebody who thinks a lot about what happens to my corpse after I die. Donate my brain to science, give my body to some medical students to practice on. Whatever.

But there does kind of seem to be something very disrespectful abiut the sort of things they do with Mummy corpses. I'm pretty sure she was mummified and buried by people who wanted her remains left alone. They put a lot of effort into them. I don't think that the scientific advancement from this kind of research is very noteworthy. It's more interesting curiosities about how people lived a long time ago.

I've always been a fan of knowledge for its own sake, but there's something very macabre about lugging around a 2000 year old corpse of a child and subjecting it to a repeated string of scientific tests just to gain some minimal insight into people who are long dead.

Then it's a good thing you aren't a scientist.


Heh heh heh.

But when I experiment on people they are allowed to say no.

The dead can't sign the informed consent.
 
2017-11-30 09:48:36 PM  

chawco: I'm not somebody who thinks a lot about what happens to my corpse after I die. Donate my brain to science, give my body to some medical students to practice on. Whatever.

But there does kind of seem to be something very disrespectful abiut the sort of things they do with Mummy corpses. I'm pretty sure she was mummified and buried by people who wanted her remains left alone. They put a lot of effort into them. I don't think that the scientific advancement from this kind of research is very noteworthy. It's more interesting curiosities about how people lived a long time ago.

I've always been a fan of knowledge for its own sake, but there's something very macabre about lugging around a 2000 year old corpse of a child and subjecting it to a repeated string of scientific tests just to gain some minimal insight into people who are long dead.


Yeah, it does seem to be the high tech equivalent of finding a dead thing and poking at it with a stick.
 
2017-11-30 10:05:50 PM  

Big_Doofus: A Gentile in Boca: Fun (off topic) tid bit.
Argonne is surrounded by pretty forest full of albino deer.

Argonne lab is in Chicago. It's run by the University of Chicago and was home to the nation's nuclear experiments early on.


The lab is 30 miles from Chicago.

The U. of Chicago campus was where the lab started, and they had a site in the suburban Argonne Forest preserve.

They moved farther out to the next county in the late 1940s.
 
2017-11-30 10:33:55 PM  

Boudyro: chawco: I'm not somebody who thinks a lot about what happens to my corpse after I die. Donate my brain to science, give my body to some medical students to practice on. Whatever.

But there does kind of seem to be something very disrespectful abiut the sort of things they do with Mummy corpses. I'm pretty sure she was mummified and buried by people who wanted her remains left alone. They put a lot of effort into them. I don't think that the scientific advancement from this kind of research is very noteworthy. It's more interesting curiosities about how people lived a long time ago.

I've always been a fan of knowledge for its own sake, but there's something very macabre about lugging around a 2000 year old corpse of a child and subjecting it to a repeated string of scientific tests just to gain some minimal insight into people who are long dead.

I've often thought the same, it's also kinda more thought provoking with these kinds of mummies. I'd never heard of them before, and since TFA couldn't be farked to show us the even the portrait of the mummy being worked on, I went to the googles.

The portraits are fairly realistic, depending on the artist, so they aren't just a idealized mask, or a leering skeleton. They are people.


It was better when we ground them up for coloring or had "unwrapping parties" where rich people could pretend to be scientists.
 
2017-11-30 10:44:09 PM  
Imhotep..... Imhotep.....Imhotep
 
2017-11-30 10:48:12 PM  
Oh yeah, subby Arwennt there.
 
2017-11-30 11:03:02 PM  

chawco: I'm not somebody who thinks a lot about what happens to my corpse after I die. Donate my brain to science, give my body to some medical students to practice on. Whatever.

But there does kind of seem to be something very disrespectful abiut the sort of things they do with Mummy corpses. I'm pretty sure she was mummified and buried by people who wanted her remains left alone. They put a lot of effort into them. I don't think that the scientific advancement from this kind of research is very noteworthy. It's more interesting curiosities about how people lived a long time ago.

I've always been a fan of knowledge for its own sake, but there's something very macabre about lugging around a 2000 year old corpse of a child and subjecting it to a repeated string of scientific tests just to gain some minimal insight into people who are long dead.


Did you miss the bit in the article where it stated this was a noninvasive procedure?  It was kinda highlighted.
 
2017-11-30 11:05:14 PM  
Headline grammar fail.

"Argonne National Laboratory uses particle accelerator to peer inside ancient mummy of little girl, then run for Senate in Alabama"
 
2017-11-30 11:25:20 PM  

2wolves: chawco: I'm not somebody who thinks a lot about what happens to my corpse after I die. Donate my brain to science, give my body to some medical students to practice on. Whatever.

But there does kind of seem to be something very disrespectful abiut the sort of things they do with Mummy corpses. I'm pretty sure she was mummified and buried by people who wanted her remains left alone. They put a lot of effort into them. I don't think that the scientific advancement from this kind of research is very noteworthy. It's more interesting curiosities about how people lived a long time ago.

I've always been a fan of knowledge for its own sake, but there's something very macabre about lugging around a 2000 year old corpse of a child and subjecting it to a repeated string of scientific tests just to gain some minimal insight into people who are long dead.

Did you miss the bit in the article where it stated this was a noninvasive procedure?  It was kinda highlighted.


Yeah I dig that. Did you miss the part where they trot this long dead corpse all over the place and into machines and oooh and aaaaah, while the when she was alive its probably that her main wish after death was to be left alone (well aside from the paradise of whatever the egyptians of 1900 year ago believed).

I don't find it highly morally objectional, just a bit macabre and sort of a creepy thing to do to a long dead person who probably would have never agreed to their remains being used in such a fashion.
 
2017-11-30 11:49:59 PM  

chawco: I don't find it highly morally objectional, just a bit macabre and sort of a creepy thing to do to a long dead person who probably would have never agreed to their remains being used in such a fashion.


Though I certainly understand the sentiment, I don't personally find it macabre or creepy at all. Ceremonial treatment of a body is really something that's done for the benefit of those still living; and as far as anyone who personally knew / cared for this girl is concerned, their wishes were satisfied as they all died nearly 2000 years before her body was "recovered". At this point, all personal memories of this girl are long lost in time*.

Besides, there are actually practical applications for this kind of work. For example, although you wouldn't put a living person in this particular machine, lessons learned from developing the reconstruction / imaging algorithms and techniques can probably be applied to many other modern medical imagers that utilize x-rays. Analysis of this long dead girl could conceivably benefit those living today. Sure, the archeologists are primarily interested in looking into the past, but there's a lot of secondary knowledge that splinters off from this kind of work. I take comfort in that knowledge; maybe you can too.

/*like tears in the rain
 
2017-12-01 12:19:42 AM  

Flt209er: chawco: I don't find it highly morally objectional, just a bit macabre and sort of a creepy thing to do to a long dead person who probably would have never agreed to their remains being used in such a fashion.

Though I certainly understand the sentiment, I don't personally find it macabre or creepy at all. Ceremonial treatment of a body is really something that's done for the benefit of those still living; and as far as anyone who personally knew / cared for this girl is concerned, their wishes were satisfied as they all died nearly 2000 years before her body was "recovered". At this point, all personal memories of this girl are long lost in time*.

Besides, there are actually practical applications for this kind of work. For example, although you wouldn't put a living person in this particular machine, lessons learned from developing the reconstruction / imaging algorithms and techniques can probably be applied to many other modern medical imagers that utilize x-rays. Analysis of this long dead girl could conceivably benefit those living today. Sure, the archeologists are primarily interested in looking into the past, but there's a lot of secondary knowledge that splinters off from this kind of work. I take comfort in that knowledge; maybe you can too.

/*like tears in the rain


I certainly don't disagree with any points raised. Like I mentioned in OP, when I die let my brain be donated to the nearest brain bank and my corpse be practice for med students.

I do however know a lot of people who would be really uncomfortable with the thought of archeologists 1000 years from now poking over their corpse with a fine comb.
 
2017-12-01 12:58:17 AM  
I believe I'm being morality trolled.

Unique.
 
2017-12-01 01:21:58 AM  

Just another Heartland Weirdass: MorningBreath: technically she is 1900 yers old or so, that is legal in every state

/the more you know

MILF


Wouldn't that be a GGGGGGGGGGGGG...GGMILF?
 
2017-12-01 02:34:04 AM  

chawco: I do however know a lot of people who would be really uncomfortable with the thought of archeologists 1000 years from now poking over their corpse with a fine comb.


I believe you. And as a first impression of sorts, I find that reaction completely understandable. But how many of those people do you think might reconsider if they took some time to think things over? Might they change their minds If those people knew that the poking and prodding wasn't simply for shiats and giggles, but served a higher, more dignified purpose? I suspect that many, perhaps most people would eventually grow comfortable, perhaps even proud, of the idea that they, even in death, might be a benefit to all mankind. Might contribute to the sum of all human knowledge.

Of course, we have no idea what the thoughts of this girl's family were (though I'm fairly certain that none of them could have ever considered this outcome). But what if they could have somehow known that someday, thanks to those efforts you previously mentioned, their daughter would become so much more than just another body lost to time? I know I would take comfort in that. Based on your earlier post, I'm pretty sure you would take comfort in that. And although I have no reason to do so, I'd like to believe that this girl's family would take comfort in that as well.

So long as her remains are treated with the care they deserve, I think this is a better fate for her than her family could have possibly imagined.
 
2017-12-01 08:01:28 AM  

A Gentile in Boca: Big_Doofus: A Gentile in Boca: Fun (off topic) tid bit.
Argonne is surrounded by pretty forest full of albino deer.

Argonne lab is in Chicago. It's run by the University of Chicago and was home to the nation's nuclear experiments early on.

Hmmm. You may want to let the building full of science type folks in Lemont, IL know they aren't really working for Argonne. Boy are they going to be pissed!


Ok, it's a suburb of Chicago. Same difference. My point is it's not the Argonne the dude was thinking of.
 
2017-12-01 08:56:38 AM  
You Ahk-naten be makin' jokes about the dead, there Pepi.
 
2017-12-01 09:31:00 AM  

WTFDYW: Pretty shiatty headline to get greened, but since the main page is the same as the politics tab, I guess nobody gives a Fark upstream where these decisions are made to plant threads.

I'm done with Fark for the day. There are tomorrow's to look forward to


You voted for a moron, and people point out you voted for a moron, so you go sulk in your safe space?

/you vote for ONE moron...
 
2017-12-01 09:33:48 AM  

chawco: she was alive its probably that her main wish after death was to be left alone (well aside from the paradise of whatever the egyptians of 1900 year ago believed).


"I thought I was going to get to follow Pharaoh across the river of darkness, and instead I get some sci-fi shiat?"
 
2017-12-01 07:32:18 PM  
Big_Doofus:
Ok, it's a suburb of Chicago. Same difference. My point is it's not the Argonne the dude was thinking of.

I moved back to Chicago
And my suburb was Argonne
 
2017-12-01 11:16:58 PM  

Mister Peejay: Big_Doofus:
Ok, it's a suburb of Chicago. Same difference. My point is it's not the Argonne the dude was thinking of.

I moved back to Chicago
And my suburb was Argonne


I lived in Elk Grove Village until I was 11. We lived under a major traffic lane for O'Hare, so it was kind of like Elwood's apartment in the Blues Brothers, only with jets
 
2017-12-01 11:33:03 PM  
Do the Teladi know about this?
 
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