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(Ars Technica)   Comcast had made a net neutrality pledge   ( arstechnica.com) divider line
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2017-11-30 09:38:01 AM  
I pledge to never druynk again.
 
2017-11-30 10:09:51 AM  
Simply a little editing to help make it easier to read.
 
2017-11-30 10:12:39 AM  
Any pledge Comcast makes isn't worth spit, unless you can polish furniture with it.
 
2017-11-30 10:28:39 AM  
That statement remained on the page until April 26 of this year, according to page captures from the Internet Archive's WayBack Machine.

The new connection for the Internet Archive.
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2017-11-30 10:36:01 AM  
So time to buy telecoms stocks, then?
 
2017-11-30 10:45:17 AM  
This is market forces at play. If streamlining is not mandatory then the company that does not do it and commits to not doing it in the future gets the business.

Of course this only applies to companies that are not lying bags of shiat.
 
2017-11-30 10:46:21 AM  
@loresjoberg: We never will, but it's very important that we be able to. But we won't. So let us do it. Because we won't do it. Which is why we're spending so much money to make sure we can. But we won't. But let us.
 
2017-11-30 11:00:25 AM  

dready zim: This is market forces at play. If streamlining is not mandatory then the company that does not do it and commits to not doing it in the future gets the business.


Except that in many markets, they have no real competition so there's no other provider to give the business to.

So if you want to give someone the business, you only have one carrier to give the business to.
 
2017-11-30 11:21:01 AM  
This is the worst cyberpunk novel, ever.
 
2017-11-30 11:30:24 AM  

dready zim: This is market forces at play. If streamlining is not mandatory then the company that does not do it and commits to not doing it in the future gets the business.

Of course this only applies to companies that are not lying bags of shiat.


It's adorable that there are still people that think internet service is an open market.
 
2017-11-30 11:34:25 AM  
I can only assume tiered internet service will be rolled out on the first day after net neutrality is iliminated.
 
2017-11-30 11:45:59 AM  

lordargent: dready zim: This is market forces at play. If streamlining is not mandatory then the company that does not do it and commits to not doing it in the future gets the business.

Except that in many markets, they have no real competition so there's no other provider to give the business to.

So if you want to give someone the business, you only have one carrier to give the business to.


Khellendros: dready zim: This is market forces at play. If streamlining is not mandatory then the company that does not do it and commits to not doing it in the future gets the business.

Of course this only applies to companies that are not lying bags of shiat.

It's adorable that there are still people that think internet service is an open market.


Ah, my mistake. You probably live in the 'land of the free to do as we tell you so shut up and give us your money'. It is different over the water, we have access to quite a few ISPs unless you live far away from people where there are no phone lines.

If you do not like the one you are with, you can easily change. The EU forced us to have semi-decent laws regarding that to make it easier for the customer. Thanks, EU!
 
2017-11-30 12:09:38 PM  

max_pooper: I can only assume tiered internet service will be rolled out on the first day after net neutrality is iliminated.


No the backlash would be fierce if it was instant.  Give it 6 months and you will see upgrade options to speed up your connections with Netflix or unlimited data caps on accessing tinder.... or what not.  Same base service up with these being add on upgrades.  The masses will not rebel against that.  5 years from now when expectations have changed... who knows which way it goes?
 
2017-11-30 12:29:50 PM  
I find it odd a company that delivers the "internet" doesn't understand how it works.
 
2017-11-30 12:35:59 PM  

lordargent: dready zim: This is market forces at play. If streamlining is not mandatory then the company that does not do it and commits to not doing it in the future gets the business.

Except that in many markets, they have no real competition so there's no other provider to give the business to.

So if you want to give someone the business, you only have one carrier to give the business to.


Or, you find another provider only to learn they're a tier 2, and have to ride the backbone of the company you moved away from in the first place.  So you're still screwed.
 
2017-11-30 12:39:18 PM  

dready zim: It is different over the water, we have access to quite a few ISPs unless you live far away from people where there are no phone lines.


we have that over here for cellphone service.  I can pick from the company who will rob me, or the company who will fark me, or the company who will rob me and fark me.  Open market FTW!
 
2017-11-30 12:43:26 PM  
capitalism at work

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2017-11-30 12:52:50 PM  
Why do people still give them money?
 
2017-11-30 01:10:46 PM  

Best Princess Celestia: Why do people still give them money?


Do you know what a monopoly is?
 
2017-11-30 01:11:24 PM  

dready zim: This is market forces at play. If streamlining is not mandatory then the company that does not do it and commits to not doing it in the future gets the business.

Of course this only applies to companies that are not lying bags of shiat.


Yep. When I go down to the internet store and buy my connection, I just choose from the ones of options as to which company I buy it from. Then I put it on my dump truck and take it home and enjoy my speedy internet.
 
2017-11-30 01:52:34 PM  

dready zim: Ah, my mistake. You probably live in the 'land of the free to do as we tell you so shut up and give us your money'. It is different over the water, we have access to quite a few ISPs unless you live far away from people where there are no phone lines.If you do not like the one you are with, you can easily change. The EU forced us to have semi-decent laws regarding that to make it easier for the customer. Thanks, EU!


Since the discussion was about net neutrality in the U.S., I figured that was assumed.  But even in other countries, you still have the problem that it still has to be a highly regulated market.  It can't be a true "free" market, since it requires a common infrastructure that is core to the service delivery.  Companies still have high barriers to entry.

Even with that, it's undoubtedly far better than here of course.  We've got a small group of companies that have the country over a barrel because they literally own the basic technology infrastructure, as well as nearly all avenues to improve and grow.   You often have different ISPs, in the same area, but the core companies still have outrageous power how the infrastructure works.
 
2017-11-30 04:18:22 PM  
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2017-11-30 06:44:52 PM  
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2017-11-30 06:57:45 PM  
No, no, no....repealing this whole net neutrality will spur all sorts of competition that will be good for innovation and consumers.  That's why it's only supported by the few giant telecoms that utterly hate competition.
 
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