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(Wired)   Yeah, so if you ever need biometric info about anyone, just ask. I'll have over 3 billion images, biometrics, phone numbers. That's what I named the service "Facebook", and people just uploaded pictures of their faces. They trust me. Dumb farks   ( wired.com) divider line
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2017-11-30 12:29:51 AM  
Idiots. Seriously, the very idea that you're now basically providing photo IDs for trinkets & geegaws is rivalled in stupidity only by the realization that most Facebook users won't give it a second goddamned thought and just do it.
 
2017-11-30 12:33:56 AM  
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2017-11-30 01:11:24 AM  
We'll check it and then permanently delete it from our servers.

Nobody could possibly be that stupid as to believe that.

Then I remember waking up this morning and reading a story about trump's Twitter fit, and realize that I live in a country where the IQ of over 100 million people falls somewhere between houseplant and the first figure on the Evolution of Man chart.
 
2017-11-30 04:06:42 AM  
Ha ha! Joke's on you, I never gave Facebook my phone number.
 
2017-11-30 04:28:27 AM  
Hey, let's come up with a way for dealing with Russian bots that's even creepier than Russian bots!
 
2017-11-30 06:20:03 AM  
I hardly use facebook, I only have it to keep up with my kids and a few other relatives. I will say this though, if I get asked this, it will be the last time I use the service.
 
2017-11-30 06:43:12 AM  
No problem!

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2017-11-30 06:43:40 AM  
Not me! I copied and pasted that totally legally binding post about how Facebook doesn't have the right to use the photos I willingly uploaded to that private company website!
 
2017-11-30 06:49:46 AM  
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2017-11-30 06:50:06 AM  
My name on FB is not my name, I have not uploaded my face, it does not know my phone number.

I also hardly use FB, it is just for organising sunday dinners and nights out on messenger.

Of course they say they do not store your face or check it via a human so you could upload a computer generated face, a unique one, which you then use as your ID. This would have the added bonus that when they use this data to train their AI, it will get bad data and think some computer generated people are human.

How does it know your face is unique without checking it against all the other faces?

How will it know someone else's face is unique without checking yours?

If it just checks a hash, how will it know you are showing it your face?

Meh, time to make a video of the same computer generated face with varying backgrounds, pump out a few hundred thousand slightly varying frames to use as ID.
 
2017-11-30 06:54:23 AM  
I'm still hung up on the bit in the article about how Facebook wants people to upload nudes to messenger to combat revenge porn. Nudes that actual human employees will be looking at. Who would be that stupid?
 
2017-11-30 06:56:33 AM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: Not me! I copied and pasted that totally legally binding post about how Facebook doesn't have the right to use the photos I willingly uploaded to that private company website!


They have to, it would be breaking the law to show that image on your page, internationally, if they did not have the right to make copies and distribute them to show on people's computers, internationally, for your image. If they did not have the right to monetise your image, they could not show an ad on the same page. If there was a time limit they would have to regularly renegotiate the right to do the things you are asking them to do with your image. Eventually they would be renegotiating about 10,000 contracts a day just to show your cat pictures to your nan. Plainly unfeasible.

As such you have to give them a permanent, global, copyright license to monetise your images. It really is the only realistic way of letting them do what you are asking with your image.

Never wondered why not many people sell their art on Facebook?
 
2017-11-30 06:58:17 AM  

rynthetyn: I'm still hung up on the bit in the article about how Facebook wants people to upload nudes to messenger to combat revenge porn. Nudes that actual human employees will be looking at. Who would be that stupid?


They said in the article they would hash it, meaning it gets sent to a computer, it generates a hash, then all the guys in the office take a copy home, then it is deleted from their servers.

Look, you have to give up all your rights in order to be protected, right?
 
2017-11-30 07:02:21 AM  
There's a use for Bookface apart from free lives on mobile games?!?
 
2017-11-30 07:23:36 AM  
This will work as reliably as face unlock on phones
 
2017-11-30 07:29:53 AM  
If ever there were a chance to send a huge corporation an unsolicited close-up of my veiny brain-like scrotum, this is it.

"Oooooh nooo he got The Brain!"

We were little shiats in high school.
 
2017-11-30 07:30:41 AM  

dready zim: Look, you have to give up all your rights in order to be protected, right?


And here we have the actual basis for the entire MAGA movement.
 
2017-11-30 07:35:01 AM  
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Now you know why Zuckerberg has been taping over the camera on his laptops for years?
 
2017-11-30 07:50:40 AM  

Giant Clown Shoe: dready zim: Look, you have to give up all your rights in order to be protected, right?

And here we have the actual basis for the entire MAGA movement.


Yup.
 
2017-11-30 07:55:11 AM  

rynthetyn: I'm still hung up on the bit in the article about how Facebook wants people to upload nudes to messenger to combat revenge porn. Nudes that actual human employees will be looking at. Who would be that stupid?


Have you seen the balance of standard FB users?
 
2017-11-30 07:56:23 AM  

rynthetyn: I'm still hung up on the bit in the article about how Facebook wants people to upload nudes to messenger to combat revenge porn. Nudes that actual human employees will be looking at. Who would be that stupid?


I feel the results of our last presidential election might have bearing on your question...
 
2017-11-30 08:17:36 AM  
Everything about this is just no. I could just go downtown and take candid photos for an afternoon and have hundreds of unique images of faces to use.
 
2017-11-30 08:43:07 AM  
Yup, definitely worried about Facebook...  the fact that hackers stole EVERY SINGLE piece of information they need to pretend to be you off of a credit agency you had zero choice of joining isn't the real problem at all.
 
2017-11-30 08:48:48 AM  

dready zim: My name on FB is not my name, I have not uploaded my face, it does not know my phone number.


Facebook still has that information about you and here's why: Someone you know has a Facebook account and shared their contacts with it. Facebook has your picture because someone took a picture of you and put it on Facebook. At some point, you were probably tagged as being the person you really are.

Facebook mines enough meta-data from its apps and web access to determine when you are lying to it. It may not know with 100% certainty who you are, but unless you turn your phone off and never use FB in your home, it's gathering enough geographic information (up to and including elevation, so living in a tall building doesn't help all that much either) to sort whatever misleading information into something that is approximately correct.

It also gathers as much information as it can about non-users. I've never even accessed Facebook; it's blocked on my home and work networks. It still absolutely knows who I am because my friends post pictures and have shared contacts. It knows where I live because that's public information. I assume it knows what I do and where I work from crawling the web. It just can't assert as much ownership over my data as some other people's because I've never made an account or agreed to its terms of service. But that also means I have no relationship with the company to complain about its data collection practices.

People say I'm paranoid and I should just make a fake account, but the minute I do that, Facebook will still know who I am from the people I choose to contact through it. It'll throw out the bad data I've given it and replace it with the approximately correct data gleaned from the dozens of other sources it has about me.  That's the power of the massive amount of data mining it does. And If I don't contact anyone I know, what's the point of using it at all?
 
2017-11-30 08:51:14 AM  

dready zim: My name on FB is not my name, I have not uploaded my face, it does not know my phone number.

I also hardly use FB, it is just for organising sunday dinners and nights out on messenger.

Of course they say they do not store your face or check it via a human so you could upload a computer generated face, a unique one, which you then use as your ID. This would have the added bonus that when they use this data to train their AI, it will get bad data and think some computer generated people are human.

How does it know your face is unique without checking it against all the other faces?

How will it know someone else's face is unique without checking yours?

If it just checks a hash, how will it know you are showing it your face?

Meh, time to make a video of the same computer generated face with varying backgrounds, pump out a few hundred thousand slightly varying frames to use as ID.


(Insert "A Scanner Darkly" pic here)
 
2017-11-30 08:56:07 AM  
Eventually it will be illegal to not have a Facebook. Just wait. And if not outright illegal, it'll be tied to important things that will render you unable to operate in modern society without one. Accomplishing the same goal.

Humanity looked at the possible futures technology could give us, ranging from Utopian Space Opera to Dystopian Hellhole and decided dystopia sounded neat.
 
2017-11-30 09:21:48 AM  
Never been on Facebook and never will be.  Not smug, either.  I never saw it as interesting or desirable.  Something about being independent from the crowd (mob) mentality makes others view that as either odd or a threat.

Funny how, as children, we were admonished for doing what everyone else was doing.
 
2017-11-30 09:23:03 AM  
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2017-11-30 09:53:56 AM  
Hang on, people were giving them nude photos or facebook messenger thought they would?

"Earlier this month, Facebook asked users to upload nude photos to Facebook Messenger, as part of an effort to prevent revenge porn. "
 
2017-11-30 10:10:33 AM  
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Ha ha! Joke's on you, I never gave Facebook my phone number.


You do realize that FB will harvest the information from your contacts list of your phone. Meaning if you have a friend that has you as a FB contact, they have it.
 
2017-11-30 10:12:17 AM  

likefunbutnot: It may not know with 100% certainty who you are


That's enough
 
2017-11-30 10:42:01 AM  
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2017-11-30 10:49:08 AM  

fark'emfeed'emfish: Hang on, people were giving them nude photos or facebook messenger thought they would?

"Earlier this month, Facebook asked users to upload nude photos to Facebook Messenger, as part of an effort to prevent revenge porn. "


Everyone, send me your nude photos! I need them for research! For Facebook research!
 
2017-11-30 12:19:36 PM  

sillydragon: rynthetyn: I'm still hung up on the bit in the article about how Facebook wants people to upload nudes to messenger to combat revenge porn. Nudes that actual human employees will be looking at. Who would be that stupid?

I feel the results of our last presidential election might have bearing on your question...


But not the two before that one, right?  We were all geniuses then.
 
2017-11-30 12:24:24 PM  

FLMountainMan: sillydragon: rynthetyn: I'm still hung up on the bit in the article about how Facebook wants people to upload nudes to messenger to combat revenge porn. Nudes that actual human employees will be looking at. Who would be that stupid?

I feel the results of our last presidential election might have bearing on your question...

But not the two before that one, right?  We were all geniuses then.


Pfffahahaha...
 
2017-11-30 01:19:50 PM  
Everyone who is stupid enough to do this should at least wear:

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2017-11-30 01:46:03 PM  
Jokes on you Subz, I only use pictures of your face! Uhm, also, could you maybe shave the neck beard? And wipe the Cheeto dust and pizza geese from your face a little more regularly? My fam is getting kinda worried about my mental state.
 
2017-11-30 02:39:02 PM  

sillydragon: FLMountainMan: sillydragon: rynthetyn: I'm still hung up on the bit in the article about how Facebook wants people to upload nudes to messenger to combat revenge porn. Nudes that actual human employees will be looking at. Who would be that stupid?

I feel the results of our last presidential election might have bearing on your question...

But not the two before that one, right?  We were all geniuses then.

Pfffahahaha...


But you're right, the surest sign of an intelligent person is one who thinks only stupid people disagree with him.  Just ask Trump.
 
2017-11-30 02:45:49 PM  
I am saddened but not surprised at the amount of ignorance on this page. Most don't seem to have read the article at all, at all.
 
2017-11-30 05:39:55 PM  
"Permanently delete it from our servers" lmao
 
2017-11-30 06:19:58 PM  

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Now you know why Zuckerberg has been taping over the camera on his laptops for years?


The Zook doesn't really have to data mine the personal info he sells anymore.
 
2017-11-30 07:44:09 PM  
That is pretty creepy.  I remember a few years ago when Starcraft 2's first expansion showed up I found out that my blizzard account had once again been locked out, they wanted a valid picture ID uploaded to prove who I was.  I did it because meh, that was tied to a real company where I am the paying customer.  Still doesn't sit right but I can understand they have rampant problems due to WoW's out-of-game economy and account hacking.

I wouldn't ever do this for facebook though, fark that they get a pic of my junk.

/my junk being someone else's junk that's much more impressive looking
 
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