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2017-11-22 01:43:31 AM  
To be fair, it's crap.

There are a thousand different ways each side could have killed the leadership on the other side.
 
2017-11-22 03:23:49 AM  
I stopped watching early last season and have not regretted that decision yet.
 
2017-11-22 03:34:10 AM  
I still haven't watched it yet.

A Eugene episode that's also a flashback? How about no.
 
2017-11-22 03:38:23 AM  
The writing since the Negan story-arc started has been pretty bad. They've been trying to compensate with extended shootouts, something that only adds to the implausibility of the show.
 
2017-11-22 03:43:11 AM  
"The Walking Dead" remains the top-rated show on television..."
 
2017-11-22 03:53:56 AM  
"Episode 5 of Season 8 drew a 3.4 rating in adults 18-49 and 7.8 million viewers"

Ooo.  Such fail.

*eyeroll*
 
2017-11-22 04:06:09 AM  
"The Walking Dead" remains the top-rated show on television, currently averaging a 4.0 and 9.1 million viewers this season. It's nearest competition is "The Big Bang Theory" on CBS, which is averaging a 3.0 rating in its eleventh season.

what?  how is this even possible?  i stopped watching TWD like 3 seasons ago because i just didn't care, and TBBT is just stupid.  there's so much good tv out there, and these are the winners?
 
2017-11-22 04:48:56 AM  

ArcadianRefugee: "Episode 5 of Season 8 drew a 3.4 rating in adults 18-49 and 7.8 million viewers"

Ooo.  Such fail.

*eyeroll*


Stop liking what other people like!
 
2017-11-22 05:49:41 AM  
I don't know how the show could correct itself to make the central focus zombie apocalypse again.  Saw several critics mention that the past few episodes you could effectively remove the zombies from the scene and you'd still have the same story arc, with the same stupid decisions being made by both "sides."
 
2017-11-22 06:02:50 AM  

LeoffDaGrate: Saw several critics mention that the past few episodesseasons you could effectively remove the zombies from the scene


It's true, the zombies haven't really been part of the show's central plot since season 2 or 3.

However, I hope you're sitting down for this one.

It's the survivors, like Rick, Daryl, and Carol who are "the walking dead".

Roll Credits! ding
 
2017-11-22 06:08:24 AM  
It's still doing fine...on sheer momentum at this point.

I gave up after last season. It's Dead to me now.
 
2017-11-22 06:40:22 AM  

shiate: "The Walking Dead" remains the top-rated show on television, currently averaging a 4.0 and 9.1 million viewers this season. It's nearest competition is "The Big Bang Theory" on CBS, which is averaging a 3.0 rating in its eleventh season.

what?  how is this even possible?  i stopped watching TWD like 3 seasons ago because i just didn't care, and TBBT is just stupid.  there's so much good tv out there, and these are the winners?


Cause Americans are stupid. I don't need to point out other things happening in the country to prove my point
 
2017-11-22 07:02:19 AM  

Summoner101: I stopped watching early last season and have not regretted that decision yet.


I just checked Netflix and I made it 3/4 of the way into season 6 episode 8.
 
2017-11-22 07:14:16 AM  
I missed last week's episode and I don't think I ever will see it.

The showrunners (whatever the hell crap term that is) better be wearing their shiatting pants
 
2017-11-22 07:29:18 AM  
I can see how, you really only need to see the season premiere, mid-season finale, mid-season premiere, and season finale.  Nothing relevant ever happens in between and unlike the first 3 seasons, no major character is getting killed off in the in between episodes anymore
 
2017-11-22 07:50:34 AM  

Befuddled: The writing since the Negan story-arc started has been pretty bad. They've been trying to compensate with extended shootouts, something that only adds to the implausibility of the show.


And it's badly done. A character will look penned in by zombies and dead, then suddenly someone pops up get away spraying bullets that kills them all. Rinse, wash, repeat.
 
2017-11-22 07:51:09 AM  

ArcadianRefugee: "Episode 5 of Season 8 drew a 3.4 rating in adults 18-49 and 7.8 million viewers"

Ooo.  Such fail.

*eyeroll*


I'm sure advertising revenues aren't declining with ratings.
 
2017-11-22 08:26:14 AM  
Well, yes, but they are hardly doing poorly. The one episode may have done poorly, but it "remains the top-rated show on television, currently averaging a 4.0 and 9.1 million viewers this season. It's nearest competition is "The Big Bang Theory" on CBS, which is averaging a 3.0 rating in its eleventh season."

Don't know how their scale works, but if 4.0 is the top-rated, and their nearest competition is 3.0, I'd say they are still doing stellar.
 
2017-11-22 08:27:25 AM  
I finally gave up this season when they used the guns and explosives they spent all of last season gathering as noisemakers. In that same episode Rick said that he only wanted to kill Negan and he wanted to give the other Saviors and the workers the chance to live and then passed up a perfect opportunity to do exactly that in favor of launching a zombie army against the civilians.  I was willing to put up with a lot of stupid in the show in the name of character development and moving the plot along but those were a stupid too far.
 
2017-11-22 08:32:03 AM  

ArcadianRefugee: Well, yes, but they are hardly doing poorly. The one episode may have done poorly, but it "remains the top-rated show on television...


In 1977 the top-rated show was Laverne and Shirley.
 
2017-11-22 08:34:57 AM  

ArcadianRefugee: Well, yes, but they are hardly doing poorly. The one episode may have done poorly, but it "remains the top-rated show on television, currently averaging a 4.0 and 9.1 million viewers this season. It's nearest competition is "The Big Bang Theory" on CBS, which is averaging a 3.0 rating in its eleventh season."

Don't know how their scale works, but if 4.0 is the top-rated, and their nearest competition is 3.0, I'd say they are still doing stellar.


Interestingly, the only people I know who haven't given up on The Walking Dead are the same people that love Big Bang Theory.
 
2017-11-22 08:41:30 AM  
It's not about the zombies, it's about the characters!  That are horribly written and inconsistent and largely survive situational danger through plot contrivances.  But it certainly isn't about zombies.
 
2017-11-22 08:55:49 AM  
Eh, the shark has been jumped for a long time. It takes awhile for the slower ones among us to realize how bad it's gotten.
 
2017-11-22 09:08:33 AM  
Diehard TWD fan here, getting bored with this season. Still loving Negan though. bow chicka bow bow.
 
2017-11-22 09:11:00 AM  

shiate: "The Walking Dead" remains the top-rated show on television, currently averaging a 4.0 and 9.1 million viewers this season. It's nearest competition is "The Big Bang Theory" on CBS, which is averaging a 3.0 rating in its eleventh season.

what?  how is this even possible?  i stopped watching TWD like 3 seasons ago because i just didn't care, and TBBT is just stupid.  there's so much good tv out there, and these are the winners?


I have been repeatedly informed that if you don't like The Big Bang Theory then you must be a butthurt antisocial nerd. So you have to like it.

\Seriously, much better shows out there
 
2017-11-22 09:11:12 AM  
I haven't given up on the show yet - I have a very hard time giving up on a show, especially one I'm already as deep into as this one - 103 episodes in now.  As someone said upthread, I'm largely still going due to momentum.

And this episode was better than the ones that preceded it, from a narrative / story perspective.  But it wasn't better enough that I'm excited to watch the next episode.

Actually, as I sit here typing this post, I'm trying to remember the last time I was excited to see the next episode; the last time I was excited to see what happened next.  I think it was around when Beth died, before they all headed north.  Which isn't to say I haven't enjoyed any of the episodes since - there were some good ones on the way to Alexandria (I really liked the ep where we met Aaron, for example), and since they got there, (the Wolves attack) but none of those left me with "I can't wait to see where this goes / how this'll turn out"  And since Negan turned up, my field of farks to give has become more and more barren.  Even disregarding the cliffhangering of the Glenn and Abraham deaths, the entire episode that led to that was really poorly done.

I like seeing Maggie's growth into leadership.  I like King Zeke and his kingdom.  But I'm not eagerly anticipating seeing more of their stories.

And I really hate Negan as a character.  Not the way I hated The Governor, where he was the villain and I wanted to see him get what was coming to him;  I hate Negan in that I want him dead so we the audience don't have to suffer through his continued presence in the show anymore.

/To put it in wrastling terms, The Governor was a top Heel
//Negan is X-Pac.
 
2017-11-22 09:11:37 AM  
Has Negan stopped farking talking yet?
 
2017-11-22 09:16:38 AM  
These threads are just tons of people doing the whole "Yeah, I don't even care about this show anymore. Hey. Did you hear me? I SAID I DON'T EVEN CARE ABOUT THIS SHOW ANYMORE! Are you listening?! DON'T. CARE."

99% of all shows eventually die due to bad ratings. It'll happen to every show. It's starting to happen to this one. While it dies off, it's STILL the best rated show on TV. Oh noes.
 
2017-11-22 09:16:56 AM  

Befuddled: The writing since the Negan story-arc started has been pretty bad. They've been trying to compensate with extended shootouts, something that only adds to the implausibility of the show.


I know, right?  Bullets have become so rare that people smart enough to know how to manufacture more are valued, yet the characters at one point decide it'd be a good idea to shoot up the side of a building and shoot out windows to get attention.   We have characters carrying axes, maces, pikes, etc. because there aren't enough guns to go around, but hey... let's waste some ammo!

Also, let's have Rick flip-flop between wanting to kill every potential enemy to trying to convert them or just be submissive... and back again.  Maybe we can have several flip-flops from him in the same episode just to drive everyone else crazy!
 
2017-11-22 09:20:20 AM  
I'm just watching out of sunk cost fallacy at this point.
 
2017-11-22 09:22:38 AM  
Haven't watched an episode of this season yet, and don't feel like I'm missing anything, going by what people are saying.
 
2017-11-22 09:24:44 AM  
Being on at the same time as Cowboys vs Eagles probably didn't help the ratings.
 
2017-11-22 09:30:31 AM  
Let's kill Glenn they said... It'll be edgy they said...
 
2017-11-22 09:33:30 AM  
Just end this show with half an ounce of dignity already.
 
2017-11-22 09:36:19 AM  
The showrunner for the last few seasons really has to go.
 
2017-11-22 09:43:07 AM  
Eh, a decent show run can only last about 7 seasons before it ventures into ER status.
 
2017-11-22 09:57:58 AM  
I remember when this was a horror show.

Now it's survivalist porn.

And I'm still watching it, because I'm hoping they'll get this last bout of tribalism survivalist porn out of their system and remember their roots.
 
2017-11-22 09:59:27 AM  

LeoffDaGrate: I don't know how the show could correct itself to make the central focus zombie apocalypse again.  Saw several critics mention that the past few episodes you could effectively remove the zombies from the scene and you'd still have the same story arc, with the same stupid decisions being made by both "sides."


I'm not sure you could, really. The focus on the zombies only works when the zombies are new and people are unprepared for them - by the time any story line progresses about 6 months the zombies are (or should be) mostly an environmental nuisance. They're slow, they have almost no intelligence and should be manageable provided the survivor group isn't entirely made up of retards. Either the zombies become a side show to the rest of the plot, or the survivors have to be implausibly stupid. Without shifting to conflicts between rival human factions TWD should have naturally ended about when they survived the plague while in the prison.

About all you can really do to recapture the feel of the first season is reboot the show in different locations and restart with the panic and uncertainty facing small groups who suddenly find themselves surrounded by monsters they don't understand.
 
2017-11-22 10:06:26 AM  
Listen Farkers... Your favorite tv show is crap. I stopped watching back in the first season, because I saw how crap it was going to be. Here are some examples of crap from recent episodes.
What's that? How do I know what's been happening if I don't watch? Because... Uhhhh... Cause I'm SMARTER than you fanbois! Yeah, that's it!
Know what else? I hears your favorite show is going to be CANCELED this season!
What's that? You have a link saying it was renewed months ago? So you're going to believe some guy who makes a crappy tv show over me?  That make's you a Loossseeeerrr!

/your show sucks
//it's getting canceled
///stop liking what I don't like!
 
2017-11-22 10:06:46 AM  
I remember when they introduced Abraham, Rosita, and Eugene with his boast of being able to reverse the zombie virus.... my best friend and i naively entertained theories about this being possible, what was happening in Washington DC, the global situation...

NOPE.  JUST FIGHTING AND KILLING AND HOPELESSNESS FOREVER.

I know a guy online who has just started watching season one, and he's super excited about it.  I warned him... ugh... yeah, it's good for awhile.  But oh, fatigue sets in.  The fatigue is real.

I just literally cannot dredge up the desire to watch it anymore.  (watches Stranger Things instead.)
 
2017-11-22 10:10:36 AM  
Plan to rescue TWD:

1) Kill Negan NOW
2) Introduce plot element that indicates that either the cause of or cure for (or both) the zombie virus is about to be discovered
3) Get Rick's group back on the road with a clear goal in mind
4) Introduce one or more hot chicks with big boobs

Done!
 
2017-11-22 10:13:51 AM  

Target Builder: LeoffDaGrate: I don't know how the show could correct itself to make the central focus zombie apocalypse again.  Saw several critics mention that the past few episodes you could effectively remove the zombies from the scene and you'd still have the same story arc, with the same stupid decisions being made by both "sides."

I'm not sure you could, really. The focus on the zombies only works when the zombies are new and people are unprepared for them - by the time any story line progresses about 6 months the zombies are (or should be) mostly an environmental nuisance. They're slow, they have almost no intelligence and should be manageable provided the survivor group isn't entirely made up of retards. Either the zombies become a side show to the rest of the plot, or the survivors have to be implausibly stupid. Without shifting to conflicts between rival human factions TWD should have naturally ended about when they survived the plague while in the prison.

About all you can really do to recapture the feel of the first season is reboot the show in different locations and restart with the panic and uncertainty facing small groups who suddenly find themselves surrounded by monsters they don't understand.


They sort of elevated the threat with the red-eye plague zombies back in the prison, where you had to avoid blood splatter and such to keep from getting sick.  That hasn't cropped up again, but it could - and it would be good if they could change things up and make the zombies a threat again.

My preference would be for the lich responsible for the zombies to start unleashing other forms of undead upon our heroes.  Walking skeletons, ghouls, what-have-you.  This would both refresh the undead threat, and provide an eventual endgame for the show- find and take out the lich.
 
2017-11-22 10:15:34 AM  

Jim from Saint Paul: These threads are just tons of people doing the whole "Yeah, I don't even care about this show anymore. Hey. Did you hear me? I SAID I DON'T EVEN CARE ABOUT THIS SHOW ANYMORE! Are you listening?! DON'T. CARE."

99% of all shows eventually die due to bad ratings. It'll happen to every show. It's starting to happen to this one. While it dies off, it's STILL the best rated show on TV. Oh noes.


Indirectly, people are trying to say they WANT to care but can't.  This show started off on such a great footing with good character development and interesting plots.  After several seasons, they lost they way. The show became monotonous and people stopped caring about these characters.  You were serving them Champagne and Caviar and now you expect them to choke down Budweiser and Spam and like it.

People are upset that a great show was left to rot on the vine. It's like watching a love one fall apart due to an addiction and there is nothing you can do to stop it.

Either get new writers or put it out of it's misery.
 
2017-11-22 10:17:47 AM  

Optimus Primate: It's still doing fine...on sheer momentum at this point.

I gave up after last season. It's Dead to me now.

dead, but it's still walking.

born_yesterday: It's not about the zombies, it's about the characters!  That are horribly written and inconsistent and largely survive situational danger through plot contrivances.  But it certainly isn't about zombies.

Yeah, that defense has completely failed these last couple seasons.
I'm still "watching" but only while I'm doing other stuff and not paying much attention to the show. their reliance on filling in story holes with major firefights using obviously fake guns and cgi everything is killing me.
If you're going to use a plastic dummy pistol, don't show me the lack of barrel. and the big seam down the middle.
 
2017-11-22 10:33:57 AM  
i gave up last year after a few Negan episodes.  we get it,he's unpredictable!
 
2017-11-22 10:53:37 AM  
This show is filled with the stupidest characters ever conceived. "There's a zombie apocalypse but who cares! Let's kill each other Battle Royale style so we can be the be the last ones the zombies eat because there's no cure and we're all infected anyway DARRYL IS SO AWESOME! WHARRGARBL!"
 
2017-11-22 10:57:54 AM  

Manfred J. Hattan: ArcadianRefugee: Well, yes, but they are hardly doing poorly. The one episode may have done poorly, but it "remains the top-rated show on television...

In 1977 the top-rated show was Laverne and Shirley.


Rick and Negan are Lenny and Squiggys counterparts
 
2017-11-22 10:59:50 AM  

shiate: "The Walking Dead" remains the top-rated show on television, currently averaging a 4.0 and 9.1 million viewers this season. It's nearest competition is "The Big Bang Theory" on CBS, which is averaging a 3.0 rating in its eleventh season.

what?  how is this even possible?  i stopped watching TWD like 3 seasons ago because i just didn't care, and TBBT is just stupid.  there's so much good tv out there, and these are the winners?


This is what's really scaring everybody. They didn't care which shiat show it was, as long as it hit certain numbers (b/c that's what they're selling to advertisers). Now the NFL is struggling, the whole damn thing is going to collapse. They'll kill broadcast stations and sell the bandwidth to the cell phone companies.
 
2017-11-22 11:46:23 AM  
Enjoyed TWD and Fear though sometimes the extended shooting galleries gave me second thoughts. Glenn's death raised the issue again but a bigger factor was all the Marvel/DC shows that weren't around when TWD started. There was so much to watch I felt something had to go so the Dead got the ax. When I quit I was sure I'd be binging it later but I just don't miss it.

/think i'm done with ahs too
 
2017-11-22 11:58:55 AM  

Trocadero: This is what's really scaring everybody. They didn't care which shiat show it was, as long as it hit certain numbers (b/c that's what they're selling to advertisers). Now the NFL is struggling, the whole damn thing is going to collapse. They'll kill broadcast stations and sell the bandwidth to the cell phone companies.


Broadcast television isn't going anywhere anytime soon.  It is still very popular with people 40 and older.  The transition to UHD will also keep it alive since ISP data caps will prevent viewers from completely cutting the cord.   The NAB would fight any effort to kill it off.

I could see another 100MHz of UHF spectrum carved off for mobile use in another decade or two, but reallocating the entire thing for mobile use probably isn't going to happen unless something major like a transition to satellite Ku-band broadcasting took its place.
 
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