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(Vulture)   Natalie Portman says she has 100 stories about sexual harassment in Hollywood. Two stand out   ( vulture.com) divider line
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2017-11-21 12:03:31 PM  
Those are kinda weak. I mean, the private plane trip with the bed, okay, that could definitely put someone on edge, but the director didn't press the issue.

And yeah, I'd wager that 99.9% of men have walked down a street before and have not felt safe.
 
2017-11-21 12:18:38 PM  
...she once had a director snap at her, "'You're exhausting.'" ..."To the point where one of the male actors I was working with stood up for me in that meeting, because he said, 'You know, you're completely not listening to her and you're completely listening to me and we're saying almost the same thing.'"

So that's what it was like doing the Star Wars prequels.
 
2017-11-21 12:24:18 PM  
So no Black Swan 2: The Muncheoning?
 
2017-11-21 12:30:24 PM  

UberDave: ...she once had a director snap at her, "'You're exhausting.'" ..."To the point where one of the male actors I was working with stood up for me in that meeting, because he said, 'You know, you're completely not listening to her and you're completely listening to me and we're saying almost the same thing.'"

So that's what it was like doing the Star Wars prequels.


If only they were complaining about Jar Jar.
 
2017-11-21 12:36:55 PM  
"To the point where one of the male actors I was working with stood up for me in that meeting, because he said, 'You know, you're completely not listening to her and you're completely listening to me and we're saying almost the same thing.'"

I see this in men way too frequently.  There's a certain number of them who just glaze over when a woman starts talking.  It's like they have some sort of cognitive shortcoming that makes them retarded when listening to female co-workers.  I get a call from a female co-worker at least once a month, and it always starts with "Marcus, I need to borrow your testicles".
 
2017-11-21 12:40:01 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: "To the point where one of the male actors I was working with stood up for me in that meeting, because he said, 'You know, you're completely not listening to her and you're completely listening to me and we're saying almost the same thing.'"

I see this in men way too frequently.  There's a certain number of them who just glaze over when a woman starts talking.  It's like they have some sort of cognitive shortcoming that makes them retarded when listening to female co-workers.  I get a call from a female co-worker at least once a month, and it always starts with "Marcus, I need to borrow your testicles".


From the sounds of things, most men are too busy thinking about groping them to listen.

/Us Males are unitaskers
 
2017-11-21 12:48:40 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: "To the point where one of the male actors I was working with stood up for me in that meeting, because he said, 'You know, you're completely not listening to her and you're completely listening to me and we're saying almost the same thing.'"

I see this in men way too frequently.  There's a certain number of them who just glaze over when a woman starts talking.  It's like they have some sort of cognitive shortcoming that makes them retarded when listening to female co-workers.  I get a call from a female co-worker at least once a month, and it always starts with "Marcus, I need to borrow your testicles".


Not all men do that. The place where I work has a predominance of women in high positions and they're all very competent and very much able to speak for themselves. In meetings, the men listen to the women just as attentively as to the other men, because they're often the ones with the good ideas.

I guess I'm just lucky.

/I wouldn't mind having a couple of them ask to borrow my testicles once in a while, though.
//reported
///so ashamed
 
2017-11-21 12:52:33 PM  
I know what picture the headline is referencing, but I'm not gonna post it.  Sorry.
 
2017-11-21 12:56:33 PM  
Does either story make mention of grits?
 
2017-11-21 01:03:21 PM  

Lando Lincoln: Those are kinda weak. I mean, the private plane trip with the bed, okay, that could definitely put someone on edge, but the director didn't press the issue.


My sister has a somewhat similar story. As a musician she was close to being signed by Island Records, and they were going to fly her down to LA on a private plane to meet with record execs, but something happened on the plane, she got scared and backed out at the last minute.

It can be intimidating, when a guy asks you to go somewhere with him, that you're not sure what his intentions are so you start casing exit strategies just in case things go south.
 
2017-11-21 01:04:06 PM  
While it's certainly a turn for the better in opening a dialogue about how rampant sexual harassment is within a variety of walks of life, and making sure those that perpetrate it are brought to at least social justice, we do risk a kind of mccarthyism as a the accusations start flying...
 
2017-11-21 01:04:53 PM  
That plane story...that's farking scary.
 
2017-11-21 01:05:21 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: "To the point where one of the male actors I was working with stood up for me in that meeting, because he said, 'You know, you're completely not listening to her and you're completely listening to me and we're saying almost the same thing.'"

I see this in men way too frequently.  There's a certain number of them who just glaze over when a woman starts talking.  It's like they have some sort of cognitive shortcoming that makes them retarded when listening to female co-workers.  I get a call from a female co-worker at least once a month, and it always starts with "Marcus, I need to borrow your testicles".


The Fast Show - The Amazing Invisible Woman!
Youtube DE3r_CgScms
 
2017-11-21 01:05:46 PM  
Wait. Is the headline a boob joke? Have we learned nothing in the past week?
 
2017-11-21 01:06:18 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: "To the point where one of the male actors I was working with stood up for me in that meeting, because he said, 'You know, you're completely not listening to her and you're completely listening to me and we're saying almost the same thing.'"

I see this in men way too frequently.  There's a certain number of them who just glaze over when a woman starts talking.  It's like they have some sort of cognitive shortcoming that makes them retarded when listening to female co-workers.  I get a call from a female co-worker at least once a month, and it always starts with "Marcus, I need to borrow your testicles".


Go on...
 
2017-11-21 01:06:37 PM  

Somaticasual: While it's certainly a turn for the better in opening a dialogue about how rampant sexual harassment is within a variety of walks of life, and making sure those that perpetrate it are brought to at least social justice, we do risk a kind of mccarthyism as a the accusations start flying...


I've been asking for a remake of The Crucible
 
2017-11-21 01:06:42 PM  
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2017-11-21 01:07:38 PM  
In other news, Fark User Wellon Dowd has entered the Federal Witness Protection Program. Rumors are circulating that he resides in a New Mexico cave reflexively drawing stick figures on the walls.
 
2017-11-21 01:07:58 PM  
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2017-11-21 01:09:34 PM  

peterquince: Wait. Is the headline a boob joke? Have we learned nothing in the past week?


It's absolutely the Clinton pic joke. Admin didn't get it or doesn't care.
 
2017-11-21 01:14:20 PM  
FFS. So if a guy offered her a banana or a pickle during lunchtime, I suppose she would consider that sexual harassment.
 
2017-11-21 01:14:40 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: "To the point where one of the male actors I was working with stood up for me in that meeting, because he said, 'You know, you're completely not listening to her and you're completely listening to me and we're saying almost the same thing.'"

I see this in men way too frequently.  There's a certain number of them who just glaze over when a woman starts talking.  It's like they have some sort of cognitive shortcoming that makes them retarded when listening to female co-workers.  I get a call from a female co-worker at least once a month, and it always starts with "Marcus, I need to borrow your testicles".


Did you let her know that she can find them in your wife's purse?

/self-reported
 
2017-11-21 01:16:50 PM  

Peter von Nostrand: peterquince: Wait. Is the headline a boob joke? Have we learned nothing in the past week?

It's absolutely the Clinton pic joke. Admin didn't get it or doesn't care.


The getting rid of misogyny was just a suggestion, not a HARD rule.
 
2017-11-21 01:21:18 PM  

MrBallou: Not all men do that. The place where I work has a predominance of women in high positions


That makes all the difference.  You need at least 40% women at the top before you can stamp out the retardation.
 
2017-11-21 01:22:17 PM  
Wasn't she in that Roy Moore biopic?
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2017-11-21 01:23:10 PM  

TommyDeuce: Marcus Aurelius: "To the point where one of the male actors I was working with stood up for me in that meeting, because he said, 'You know, you're completely not listening to her and you're completely listening to me and we're saying almost the same thing.'"

I see this in men way too frequently.  There's a certain number of them who just glaze over when a woman starts talking.  It's like they have some sort of cognitive shortcoming that makes them retarded when listening to female co-workers.  I get a call from a female co-worker at least once a month, and it always starts with "Marcus, I need to borrow your testicles".

From the sounds of things, most men are too busy thinking about groping them to listen.

/Us Males are unitaskers


FOCUSED.

I prefer to say we are focused.

It makes it surprisingly easy for my wife to smack me on the back of the head.  Tm
 
2017-11-21 01:24:10 PM  

Lando Lincoln: Those are kinda weak. I mean, the private plane trip with the bed, okay, that could definitely put someone on edge, but the director didn't press the issue.

And yeah, I'd wager that 99.9% of men have walked down a street before and have not felt safe.


That the director thought it was all good to set up the trip like that, in the first place, is the issue. 

This is the creepy crap that needs to stop.
 
2017-11-21 01:26:52 PM  

Lando Lincoln: Those are kinda weak. I mean, the private plane trip with the bed, okay, that could definitely put someone on edge, but the director didn't press the issue.

And yeah, I'd wager that 99.9% of men have walked down a street before and have not felt safe.


The difference is the frequency.  I've not felt safe before.  But for women (in certain places, like NY) its much, much more common to the point of being almost normal.
 
2017-11-21 01:27:05 PM  
Natalie Portman was beautiful and smart when she was young, I'm surprised she didn't have stories about underage sexual predators. Either she figured it out early, or she's just one of those women who don't get bothered like that much, because she'd rip their balls off.
 
2017-11-21 01:28:23 PM  

UberDave: ...she once had a director snap at her, "'You're exhausting.'" ..."To the point where one of the male actors I was working with stood up for me in that meeting, because he said, 'You know, you're completely not listening to her and you're completely listening to me and we're saying almost the same thing.'"

So that's what it was like doing the Star Wars prequels.


If it was Jean Reno, that's because she was 13!
 
2017-11-21 01:30:37 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: I see this in men way too frequently.  There's a certain number of them who just glaze over when a woman starts talking.  It's like they have some sort of cognitive shortcoming that makes them retarded when listening to female co-workers.


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2017-11-21 01:33:20 PM  

Lando Lincoln: Those are kinda weak. I mean, the private plane trip with the bed, okay, that could definitely put someone on edge, but the director didn't press the issue.

And yeah, I'd wager that 99.9% of men have walked down a street before and have not felt safe.


Not once in my life have I ever walked down the street before and felt like I would be sexually assaulted. Not even in New Orleans.

Not felt safe, maybe a little. Redneck me walking thru Brooklyn at 5am drunk off my ass.  Not really.  Wearing a Rolex and learning I'm in the wrong neck of the woods in Hong Kong, meh a little.  Same trip to Hong Kong when we went over to China and I got separated from the group. Little kids eating Scorpions out of bowls, and I just ended up drinking snake wine with a couple of wino's.

Those are the only examples I can think of in 40 years and they are from places thousands of miles from my hometown.

So no, I've never felt unsafe in the same way my wife has.
 
2017-11-21 01:34:48 PM  
Especially the time the guy kept taking about sand getting everywhere and crying about his mom constantly. Way uncomfortable.

Then there was the long haired broski who kept smashing coffee cups all the time, and demanding horseback rides. Dude was totes weird talking about his "hammer" repeatedly.
 
2017-11-21 01:37:36 PM  

Moroning: The getting rid of misogyny was just a suggestion, not a HARD rule


See, this is why we need to bring back phrasing
 
2017-11-21 01:38:03 PM  

foo monkey: Marcus Aurelius: "To the point where one of the male actors I was working with stood up for me in that meeting, because he said, 'You know, you're completely not listening to her and you're completely listening to me and we're saying almost the same thing.'"

I see this in men way too frequently.  There's a certain number of them who just glaze over when a woman starts talking.  It's like they have some sort of cognitive shortcoming that makes them retarded when listening to female co-workers.  I get a call from a female co-worker at least once a month, and it always starts with "Marcus, I need to borrow your testicles".

Go on...


Then she pulls out a pair of scissors.
 
2017-11-21 01:38:34 PM  

houstondragon: Especially the time the guy kept taking about sand getting everywhere and crying about his mom constantly. Way uncomfortable.

Then there was the long haired broski who kept smashing coffee cups all the time, and demanding horseback rides. Dude was totes weird talking about his "hammer" repeatedly.


Um...
 
2017-11-21 01:43:16 PM  

the_innkeeper: houstondragon: Especially the time the guy kept taking about sand getting everywhere and crying about his mom constantly. Way uncomfortable.

Then there was the long haired broski who kept smashing coffee cups all the time, and demanding horseback rides. Dude was totes weird talking about his "hammer" repeatedly.

Um...


It took me a second, too.
 
2017-11-21 01:43:50 PM  

houstondragon: Especially the time the guy kept taking about sand getting everywhere and crying about his mom constantly. Way uncomfortable.

Then there was the long haired broski who kept smashing coffee cups all the time, and demanding horseback rides. Dude was totes weird talking about his "hammer" repeatedly.


I didn't think his hair was all that long.

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2017-11-21 01:46:07 PM  

Peter von Nostrand: peterquince: Wait. Is the headline a boob joke? Have we learned nothing in the past week?

It's absolutely the Clinton pic joke. Admin didn't get it or doesn't care.


Tell me about it. I submitted comedy gold today and the admin redlit it. It was gold I tells ya! Basically took the Charles Manson/Marilyn Manson mix up a step further.

Charles Manson
Marilyn Manson
Marilyn Monroe

Gold! Gold in them thar headline! Yee hee hee!
 
2017-11-21 02:00:31 PM  

cryinoutloud: Natalie Portman was beautiful and smart when she was young, I'm surprised she didn't have stories about underage sexual predators. Either she figured it out early, or she's just one of those women who don't get bothered like that much, because she'd rip their balls off.


She is a cleaner.
 
2017-11-21 02:14:22 PM  
"I showed up and it was just the two of us, and one bed was made on the plane."

I'm not sure I understand what that even means. Was there only one bed on the plane, or does she mean there were more than one, but only one had been made up? Maybe the crew didn't know she was coming on the flight, or maybe he instructed them to make it up in case she was tired.

I guess I'm not seeing the point she was making.
 
2017-11-21 02:20:04 PM  
If you have 100 stories of sexual harassment maybe you are the problem.
 
2017-11-21 02:21:19 PM  

Group W Bench: If you have 100 stories of sexual harassment maybe you are the problem.


Finally, Real Man(c) showed up
 
2017-11-21 02:26:28 PM  

ReapTheChaos: "I showed up and it was just the two of us, and one bed was made on the plane."

I'm not sure I understand what that even means. Was there only one bed on the plane, or does she mean there were more than one, but only one had been made up? Maybe the crew didn't know she was coming on the flight, or maybe he instructed them to make it up in case she was tired.

I guess I'm not seeing the point she was making.


Maybe the inside of the plane contained only a bed. So they had to sit there on the edge of the bed for the whole flight.

That would be awkward.
 
2017-11-21 02:30:39 PM  
"100 stories"?   Thats sounds like a pretty even number.  Sounds like she is being flippant and rounding out the quantity.
 
2017-11-21 02:32:13 PM  
Sooo....when are rock stars going to start being accused of sexual harassment and assault?

/Asking for a friend.
 
2017-11-21 02:32:58 PM  
If you're on an airplane that has a bed in it you should probably put out.
 
2017-11-21 02:33:39 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: "To the point where one of the male actors I was working with stood up for me in that meeting, because he said, 'You know, you're completely not listening to her and you're completely listening to me and we're saying almost the same thing.'"

I see this in men way too frequently.  There's a certain number of them who just glaze over when a woman starts talking.  It's like they have some sort of cognitive shortcoming that makes them retarded when listening to female co-workers.  I get a call from a female co-worker at least once a month, and it always starts with "Marcus, I need to borrow your testicles".


As a guy, this happens to me as well.  I am naturally introverted/reserved/shy/whatever you want to call it and when I try to speak up and say x usually other people talk over me.  After a while I just 'give up' and keep my mouth shut.

:(

/meh
 
2017-11-21 02:34:05 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: "To the point where one of the male actors I was working with stood up for me in that meeting, because he said, 'You know, you're completely not listening to her and you're completely listening to me and we're saying almost the same thing.'"

I see this in men way too frequently.  There's a certain number of them who just glaze over when a woman starts talking.  It's like they have some sort of cognitive shortcoming that makes them retarded when listening to female co-workers.  I get a call from a female co-worker at least once a month, and it always starts with "Marcus, I need to borrow your testicles".


I dunno, I have the opposite problem - A huge number of highly vocal women all providing a huge amount of their opinions and input.  My job isn't to ignore them, but to chart a course through all the various frequently conflicting opinions and settling on one final result that we'll all follow together.
 
2017-11-21 02:35:58 PM  

Lando Lincoln: ReapTheChaos: "I showed up and it was just the two of us, and one bed was made on the plane."

I'm not sure I understand what that even means. Was there only one bed on the plane, or does she mean there were more than one, but only one had been made up? Maybe the crew didn't know she was coming on the flight, or maybe he instructed them to make it up in case she was tired.

I guess I'm not seeing the point she was making.

Maybe the inside of the plane contained only a bed. So they had to sit there on the edge of the bed for the whole flight.

That would be awkward.


Yeah. "We could either sit awkwardly on the edge of this bed the entire flight, or we could just have sex and be comfortable. What do you think?"
 
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