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(BBC-US)   "It's not that it's lost. For it to be lost we'd have to look for it and not find it," said spokesman for the Navy that hasn't found it   ( bbc.com) divider line
    More: News, spokesman Enrique Balbi, ARA San Juan, Ushuaia naval base, La Nacion reports, type submarine, Argentine navy, Mr Balbi, electric malfunction  
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2017-11-17 12:12:56 PM  
German screen doors never fail.
 
2017-11-17 12:31:23 PM  
We're not saying it's lost.....but we can't find it
 
2017-11-17 12:35:44 PM  
Probably preparing for a sneak attack on the Falklands.
 
2017-11-17 02:12:06 PM  
What you gotta do in these situations is you trust the captain, you trust the crew.
 
2017-11-17 02:14:12 PM  
Bad day for any sub service.
 
2017-11-17 02:35:01 PM  
Mr. Balbi

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2017-11-17 02:51:45 PM  
I wonder if it is going to get out of control and if we'll be lucky to live through it.
 
2017-11-17 02:51:46 PM  
In other news, Argentina has a submarine.
 
2017-11-17 02:52:01 PM  
Always in the last place you look.
 
2017-11-17 02:52:07 PM  
Somebody has got some 'splaining to do?
 
2017-11-17 02:52:35 PM  

McGrits: I wonder if it is going to get out of control and if we'll be lucky to live through it.


I snorted.
 
2017-11-17 02:53:22 PM  

jtown: In other news, Argentina has a submarine.


had*
 
2017-11-17 02:53:58 PM  
"You've lost another submarine?"

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2017-11-17 02:55:30 PM  
NASA is helping in the search.
 
2017-11-17 02:56:46 PM  
Octubre Rojo!
 
2017-11-17 02:56:58 PM  
It suffered an electrical malfunction that was bad enough to cripple its communications, but it's expected to "continue on its planned journey?"

I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest that you guys may not be cut out to be a naval power, I'm afraid.
 
2017-11-17 02:57:27 PM  
pointing at the water
do you know what is under the water?
more water-and a submarine
 
2017-11-17 02:57:28 PM  
"Mr Balbi said the submarine had food supplies for several days"

I would hope they had more than that...
 
2017-11-17 02:57:39 PM  

Ebenator: Always in the last place you look.


You ought to keep looking. What if you find another one?
 
2017-11-17 02:57:54 PM  

nekom: Probably preparing for a sneak attack on the Falklands.


The current Argentine administration is far less antagonistic about the Falklands than the last one.
 
2017-11-17 02:58:22 PM  

starlost: pointing at the water
do you know what is under the water?
more water-and a submarine


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2017-11-17 02:59:03 PM  
CSB:  in the navy i tracked submarines and for training purposes, we had the.....never mind.  I'll say too much....

/i haven't said enough
//that's me in the corner....
 
2017-11-17 02:59:46 PM  
I thought the Aussies were the only ones with diesel submarines. Huh.
 
2017-11-17 03:01:10 PM  

Ebenator: McGrits: I wonder if it is going to get out of control and if we'll be lucky to live through it.

I snorted.


I chortled.
 
2017-11-17 03:02:00 PM  
"It's not that it's lost. For it to be lost we'd have to look for it and not find it,"

That is what I tell my kid whenever we get separated at the mall.
 
2017-11-17 03:02:35 PM  
At least it ain't the Russians this time.
 
2017-11-17 03:03:17 PM  
They're dead, Jim.
 
2017-11-17 03:03:40 PM  
Did they check between the cushions on the couch?
 
2017-11-17 03:03:59 PM  

DarkSoulNoHope: "You've lost another submarine?"

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"Maritime immunity"
 
2017-11-17 03:04:55 PM  

DammitIForgotMyLogin: What you gotta do in these situations is you trust the captain, you trust the crew.


Thanks Jeb
 
2017-11-17 03:05:03 PM  
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/don't worry, a special NYPD task force will track down the sub
 
2017-11-17 03:05:04 PM  
Schroedingers submarine?
 
2017-11-17 03:05:05 PM  

jtown: In other news, Argentina has a submarine.


They had 4 previous ones that were lost. Now this one is cinco.
 
2017-11-17 03:05:21 PM  

jackiepaper: DammitIForgotMyLogin: What you gotta do in these situations is you trust the captain, you trust the crew.

Thanks Jeb


Jed. Dammit.
 
2017-11-17 03:05:54 PM  

serfdood: Ebenator: McGrits: I wonder if it is going to get out of control and if we'll be lucky to live through it.

I snorted.

I chortled.


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2017-11-17 03:06:51 PM  

serfdood: Ebenator: McGrits: I wonder if it is going to get out of control and if we'll be lucky to live through it.

I snorted.

I chortled.


I guffawed.
 
2017-11-17 03:07:08 PM  

ecor1: I thought the Aussies were the only ones with diesel submarines. Huh.


Pretty much everyone has diesel-electrics these days. The best ones are actually quieter than our nuclear attack subs. Back in 2007 the Chinese popped one of theirs up in the middle of a carrier group during a wargames exercise, very embarrassing for the admiral in charge of the group.
 
2017-11-17 03:07:42 PM  
Given that the Argentine navy had a destroyer capsize while tied to the dock 4 years ago, I'm a bit worried.
 
2017-11-17 03:09:04 PM  

ecor1: I thought the Aussies were the only ones with diesel submarines. Huh.


Really?

The vast majority of modern submarines are diesel. 46 navies operate subs - only 6 (I believe) have classes with nuclear propulsion.
 
2017-11-17 03:09:06 PM  

ChipNASA: serfdood: Ebenator: McGrits: I wonder if it is going to get out of control and if we'll be lucky to live through it.

I snorted.

I chortled.

I guffawed.


I haw-haw'd.
 
2017-11-17 03:09:34 PM  

robodog: ecor1: I thought the Aussies were the only ones with diesel submarines. Huh.

Pretty much everyone has diesel-electrics these days. The best ones are actually quieter than our nuclear attack subs. Back in 2007 the Chinese popped one of theirs up in the middle of a carrier group during a wargames exercise, very embarrassing for the admiral in charge of the group.


Thats kind of hilarious. I guess building nukes is probably more trouble than its worth nowdays. But diesel-electrics have a lot of limitations.
 
2017-11-17 03:13:04 PM  

ecor1: robodog: ecor1: I thought the Aussies were the only ones with diesel submarines. Huh.

Pretty much everyone has diesel-electrics these days. The best ones are actually quieter than our nuclear attack subs. Back in 2007 the Chinese popped one of theirs up in the middle of a carrier group during a wargames exercise, very embarrassing for the admiral in charge of the group.

Thats kind of hilarious. I guess building nukes is probably more trouble than its worth nowdays. But diesel-electrics have a lot of limitations.


Diesel-electrics are really quiet for a few days at a time.  Then they have to fire up the diesel engine and their cover is blown.  If you want quiet for weeks at a stretch, fission is the only way to go.  Even the AIP systems (ie, carry a tank of oxidizer and a tank of fuel) can't go for a solid 3-month deployment in stealth.
 
2017-11-17 03:13:15 PM  

OtherLittleGuy: ChipNASA: serfdood: Ebenator: McGrits: I wonder if it is going to get out of control and if we'll be lucky to live through it.

I snorted.

I chortled.

I guffawed.

I haw-haw'd.


Lord . . .
 
2017-11-17 03:13:54 PM  
Thomas Dolby - One Of Our Submarines
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2017-11-17 03:14:13 PM  
It was last seen at Patagonia, so it's probably still somewhere in the mall.
 
2017-11-17 03:14:16 PM  

SirDigbyChickenCaesar: "Mr Balbi said the submarine had food supplies for several days"

I would hope they had more than that...


You might be surprised. Unless you are expecting a long time out with no port calls you usually carry just enough food with a maybe a week of extra food for the "Just in case" scenarios. Food takes up space and the boat class in TFA doesn't have a lot of it to spare. As it is the crew was probably walking on top of cans in a passageway when they started off.

A boomer (which has a lot of space) normally carries ~90 days of food even though the average patrol is about 65 (or so) days long. If you go past 65 days you're going to be eating a lot of canned ravioli's, tuna fish sammiches and mystery meat with a nice green sheen on it from the back of the freezer.
 
2017-11-17 03:14:57 PM  
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2017-11-17 03:15:07 PM  
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2017-11-17 03:15:34 PM  
It is believed that the ARA San Juan, a German-built TR-1700 type submarine

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I suppose it shouldn't, but it strikes me as odd that Germany is still in the business of producing submarines.

It seems like building those (along with other things like dive bombers and cattle cars) would have been deemed forever off-limits
 
2017-11-17 03:16:04 PM  

minencegrease: [Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/R-IlneQf​f-w]


I was wondering why I wasn't satisfied with the thread, until I saw this....
 
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