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2017-11-17 08:35:15 AM  
Don't worry, it'll get used to make a new type of sonar and the technology will never again be seen in public.
 
2017-11-17 02:52:58 PM  
So you could power the U.S. with a bunch of toddlers.
 
2017-11-17 03:01:37 PM  
the needle of an analog record player...

wtf is that?
 
2017-11-17 03:14:26 PM  
Good.  Fark your coal jobs.
 
2017-11-17 03:21:14 PM  
I wonder how well this tech would work as an alternative to batteries for home storage of solar or wind powered electric generation? A big rubber band in my basement instead of wet cells.
 
2017-11-17 03:35:44 PM  
It will never happen. The power industries own too many politicians. And I'm sure some doctors would be happy to testify that exposure to the substance causes cancer and addiction and maybe hairy palms.
 
2017-11-17 03:41:45 PM  

priapic_abandon2: I wonder how well this tech would work as an alternative to batteries for home storage of solar or wind powered electric generation? A big rubber band in my basement instead of wet cells.


It's an energy generator, not a storage device - more closely related to your solar cells than your battery.

If we can find a nearly indestructible flexible membrane to put over it, we could put this on streets and have cars driving over it power the city.
 
KIA
2017-11-17 03:52:37 PM  
Tony Stark? Is that you? We thought you were off on another bender...
 
2017-11-17 04:08:59 PM  

starlost: the needle of an analog record player...

wtf is that?


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2017-11-17 04:46:57 PM  
I don't know if submitter is that big a source of stress, but their mom is. What this might be interesting for is powering wearable electronics
 
2017-11-17 04:53:11 PM  
So what? Basic thermodynamics. Any attempt to draw power from movement or flexing simply makes that movement or flexing more difficult. It's a no win situation.
 
2017-11-17 05:07:44 PM  
Rubbery material that generates electricity when stretched and twisted? Someone is going to make a condom out of it and make a fortune with "Power stations".
 
2017-11-17 05:36:36 PM  
Well damn, hook me up as a warp core for a Galaxy-class starship, then.
 
2017-11-17 05:44:25 PM  
DNRTFA, but ... reminds me of the first episode of "Better Off Ted" when during product testing, the characters discover that uncomfortable office chairs increase productivity.

TED: "When people can't get comfortable, they don't daydream or get distracted. So, they're more productive."
LINDA: "And more filled with hate.
 
2017-11-17 06:24:02 PM  

starlost: the needle of an analog record player...

wtf is that?


You young folk call it a ceramic cartridge for a turntable.
Most people don't use them - they use magnetic.
 
2017-11-17 06:34:26 PM  

starlost: the needle of an analog record player...

wtf is that?


Well, it's like the needle in your digital record player, only moreso.

Meanwhile, I'm still waiting for the electrical grid to harness the triboelectric effect.
 
2017-11-17 06:56:13 PM  
"You could implant it near the heart to generate electricity from the heartbeat, for instance."

You know what my heart needs?

Something to hamper it.

I've been eating greasy foods all these years to achieve this but soon I may not need to!

Also its been done already:
[Picture of the What ship in The Tick powered by fear that is now impossible to find because the shiat new Netflix version of The Tick]
 
2017-11-17 07:45:44 PM  

NotARocketScientist: priapic_abandon2: I wonder how well this tech would work as an alternative to batteries for home storage of solar or wind powered electric generation? A big rubber band in my basement instead of wet cells.

It's an energy generator, not a storage device - more closely related to your solar cells than your battery.

If we can find a nearly indestructible flexible membrane to put over it, we could put this on streets and have cars driving over it power the city.


Wouldn't that decrease car efficiency by a tiny bit? TANSTAAFL
 
2017-11-17 08:20:36 PM  

Harlee: NotARocketScientist: priapic_abandon2: I wonder how well this tech would work as an alternative to batteries for home storage of solar or wind powered electric generation? A big rubber band in my basement instead of wet cells.

It's an energy generator, not a storage device - more closely related to your solar cells than your battery.

If we can find a nearly indestructible flexible membrane to put over it, we could put this on streets and have cars driving over it power the city.

Wouldn't that decrease car efficiency by a tiny bit? TANSTAAFL


Sure, but cars limping along in city traffic at 10 miles per hour are already incredibly inefficient. At least we'd get something back out of this activity.
 
2017-11-17 09:24:35 PM  
I think the most exciting part of that article is toward the end. Soon we'll be able to use the material to torture robots.
 
2017-11-17 09:52:40 PM  

bingethinker: Harlee: NotARocketScientist: priapic_abandon2: I wonder how well this tech would work as an alternative to batteries for home storage of solar or wind powered electric generation? A big rubber band in my basement instead of wet cells.

It's an energy generator, not a storage device - more closely related to your solar cells than your battery.

If we can find a nearly indestructible flexible membrane to put over it, we could put this on streets and have cars driving over it power the city.

Wouldn't that decrease car efficiency by a tiny bit? TANSTAAFL

Sure, but cars limping along in city traffic at 10 miles per hour are already incredibly inefficient. At least we'd get something back out of this activity.


Sound like more "socialization of costs" for whoever is getting all that "free" energy.
 
2017-11-18 04:41:57 AM  

jjorsett: I think the most exciting part of that article is toward the end. Soon we'll be able to use the material to torture robots.


Yea, I seen that. I'm conflicted... part of me wonders why the Fark we'd make something "feel" pain since that seems like a cruel thing to do just because you can. On the other hand, atleast when I die in the robot uprising I can comfort myself by knowing they can potentially feel a slight pain from stubbing their toe on my lifeless body.
 
2017-11-18 07:47:25 AM  

keldaria: jjorsett: I think the most exciting part of that article is toward the end. Soon we'll be able to use the material to torture robots.

Yea, I seen that. I'm conflicted... part of me wonders why the Fark we'd make something "feel" pain since that seems like a cruel thing to do just because you can. On the other hand, atleast when I die in the robot uprising I can comfort myself by knowing they can potentially feel a slight pain from stubbing their toe on my lifeless body.


I knew a kid when I was young who felt no pain. He would do fun things like ride his bike down stairs into doors and laugh at his injuries. He was one of two friends I had at a young age and he was always a blast to be around.

I moved out of that small town when I was entering 3rd grade. At college I met someone from that same small town and asked him about my old friend. He grew really quiet and told me that my friend was in prison for a very long time and it was hoped he never got out. He didn't go into specifics but said that a person who can't feel pain has no empathy towards the pain of others and he had been very entertained by the body doing things it shouldn't do. For him it was a form of physical comedy and he loved practical jokes.

Making an AI able to feel pain may be a very healthy thing. I hadn't even considered that until reading the article but it makes a ton of sense to me.
 
2017-11-18 09:11:44 AM  

Pointy Tail of Satan: So what? Basic thermodynamics. Any attempt to draw power from movement or flexing simply makes that movement or flexing more difficult. It's a no win situation.


I'm thinking that tidal energy would be a good source of inexpensive motion.
 
2017-11-18 04:49:59 PM  

BolloxReader: keldaria: jjorsett: I think the most exciting part of that article is toward the end. Soon we'll be able to use the material to torture robots.

Yea, I seen that. I'm conflicted... part of me wonders why the Fark we'd make something "feel" pain since that seems like a cruel thing to do just because you can. On the other hand, atleast when I die in the robot uprising I can comfort myself by knowing they can potentially feel a slight pain from stubbing their toe on my lifeless body.

I knew a kid when I was young who felt no pain. He would do fun things like ride his bike down stairs into doors and laugh at his injuries. He was one of two friends I had at a young age and he was always a blast to be around.

I moved out of that small town when I was entering 3rd grade. At college I met someone from that same small town and asked him about my old friend. He grew really quiet and told me that my friend was in prison for a very long time and it was hoped he never got out. He didn't go into specifics but said that a person who can't feel pain has no empathy towards the pain of others and he had been very entertained by the body doing things it shouldn't do. For him it was a form of physical comedy and he loved practical jokes.

Making an AI able to feel pain may be a very healthy thing. I hadn't even considered that until reading the article but it makes a ton of sense to me.


Ability to feel pain and ability to feel empathy for others aren't really one in the same. While I'm sure a sense of pain could have helped benefit your friend, it was not gaurenteed to. As they say, some men just want to watch the world burn. Just because someone has never experienced a particular thing doesn't mean we can't feel empathy for what they've gone through. As a man, I've never been sexually harassed, but I certainly feel empathy for the countless women out there that have.
 
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