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2017-11-14 03:57:17 PM  
Pepperidge Farm remembers
 
2017-11-14 03:57:29 PM  

Mugato: pedrop357: Some reports say he was a felon.  Might want to look into passing a law making it illegal to have guns if you're a felon.

Everyone's been over this circle jerk for years. It's illegal to get coke too but we still have coke heads.


And remember, according to gun nuts we can't close the gun show loophole because that would lead directly to confiscation.
 
2017-11-14 03:57:51 PM  
It's only been a week (give or take a day) since that Texas shooting?  Feels like months ago. The timeline of gun violence is starting to blend together.
 
2017-11-14 03:58:04 PM  

Dimensio: It would also keep each firearm traceable to its last legal owner, which would drastically dry up the illegal gun market.


Gun nuts say we can't do that because it would lead directly to confiscation.
 
2017-11-14 03:58:05 PM  

bikerbob59: First you must define 'mass shooting'.  I don't consider three 'mass'.


I would think it has to be greater than 20 kindergarten children for the GOP to give a fark, since nothing policy wise happened from them after that 'non mass shooting' event.
 
2017-11-14 03:58:09 PM  

Mikey1969: And THIS is why you don't jump on the news immediately after these stories:

School shooting in Tehama County leaves at least three dead
3 dead, shooter killed at Tehama County school - KCRA.com

In reality, there are 5 dead people, including the shooter, and NOBODY at the school is dead. This seems to be some kind of spree at multiple locations, but the news headlines specifically say that there are dead kids AT the school. Even the headline of TFA was wrong up until a few minutes ago.


Yeah, come on guys, he only wounded children.  No big, amirite?
 
2017-11-14 03:58:19 PM  
Oh boy.  We didn't set some kind of record with today's shooting, so let's skip right by thoughts and prayers.
 
2017-11-14 03:58:26 PM  

Mugato: Ferreira said he heard gunfire for over 20 minutes

20 minutes and only "at least" three dead? That's not only poor reporting that they can't accurately count corpses, that's poor mass shooting to get only three people in 20 minutes.


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2017-11-14 03:59:09 PM  
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2017-11-14 03:59:25 PM  

Thank You Black Jesus!: skyotter: The guns are reported to be in stable condition.

thank jesus.


And they say thoughts and prayers don't work!
 
2017-11-14 03:59:32 PM  
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2017-11-14 03:59:33 PM  

AdmirableSnackbar: Dimensio: It would also keep each firearm traceable to its last legal owner, which would drastically dry up the illegal gun market.

Gun nuts say we can't do that because it would lead directly to confiscation.


And that is why I have suggested admittedly complicated safeguards to assuage such concerns.
 
2017-11-14 03:59:44 PM  
Guns don't kill people.  However, they are a force multiplier for the insane among us who use them to kill people.
/keep guns out of the hands of criminals and the insane.  Why is that an impossible goal?
 
2017-11-14 03:59:55 PM  
Mild mannered dude steals neighbors truck, goes in rampage to school, which he shoots up from outside for 20 minutes, while apparently engaging multiple responding police.

Was he driving a Ferrari? Did he look like this?

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2017-11-14 04:00:32 PM  

Dimensio: Omnidirectional Punching: Sure is a shame that once again there's absolutely nothing we could ever do to put a stop to gun violence.

If California had tough laws banning pistol grips and adjustable stocks on rifles then this shooting would not have happened.


I know, right? They could even start limiting the capacity of magazines, and maybe enforce a waiting period for any purchases.
 
2017-11-14 04:00:34 PM  
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2017-11-14 04:01:02 PM  

Oysterman: [registerguard.com image 850x725]


Says the person in a thread where people are talking about gun control.
 
2017-11-14 04:01:04 PM  

AdmirableSnackbar: rummonkey: the fact that any kids are being airlifted to the hospital because of ANOTHER shooting is enough.

It's not enough. Gun nuts need MORE freedom!  More death for their death cult is needed.  This is what they want.


This is california. Not even close to a gun nut state. Also this was a gun free zone I am willing to bet.
 
2017-11-14 04:03:01 PM  

Markoff_Cheney: Columbine was the first big one in my lifetime, and it seemed like we didn't have another for a long stretch after that.  People aren't even talking about Vegas any more, I remember Columbine being front page news for 3+ months straight around here.


Columbine had a compelling (if mostly false) narrative, which the media proceeded to beat into the ground.

Vegas was confounding because no one has a good idea of why it happened, and the police don't want to force it because it only brings their embarrassing response into the forefront.

Why do we still talk about JenBenet Ramsay, and not the hundreds of other missing kids?
 
2017-11-14 04:03:42 PM  

Pet_Peve: I would like to know how outlawing guns would be anymore effective than outlawing drugs has been.


It would make people feel all warm and cuddly inside.
 
2017-11-14 04:03:48 PM  

Dimensio: AdmirableSnackbar: Dimensio: It would also keep each firearm traceable to its last legal owner, which would drastically dry up the illegal gun market.

Gun nuts say we can't do that because it would lead directly to confiscation.

And that is why I have suggested admittedly complicated safeguards to assuage such concerns.


Doesn't matter to them.  Shall. Not. Be. Infringed.

And this is the price we pay for it.  Either get more gun nuts on your side, convince them that they need to compromise a little or get ready to lose your toys, because that's going to happen eventually due to gun nut intransigence on the issue.  I realize you're actually one of the "good ones" - hence my snark earlier - but damn are you more rare than a unicorn.
 
2017-11-14 04:03:56 PM  

pedrop357: Oysterman: [registerguard.com image 850x725]

Says the person in a thread where people are talking about gun control.


Oh, you.  Let's see the legislators talk about it.
 
2017-11-14 04:04:07 PM  
The shooter's name has not been released and it was not disclosed if the attacker was a man or a woman.

 Well, that would be a change of pace.
 
2017-11-14 04:04:12 PM  
Gun violence. No such thing. They just sit there.
Let's address people violence.

If we can narc on people that assault people sexually, we should be able to drop a dime on people that have violent tendencies or are too aggressive (and happen to own guns)
 
2017-11-14 04:04:28 PM  

Mugato: Ferreira said he heard gunfire for over 20 minutes

20 minutes and only "at least" three dead? That's not only poor reporting that they can't accurately count corpses, that's poor mass shooting to get only three people in 20 minutes.


With proper gun control, there would have been more hits per shot.

\This is why you don't go full-auto.
 
2017-11-14 04:05:31 PM  

AdmirableSnackbar: Dimensio: It would also keep each firearm traceable to its last legal owner, which would drastically dry up the illegal gun market.

Gun nuts say we can't do that because it would lead directly to confiscation.


Because it usually does.
 
2017-11-14 04:05:53 PM  

Markoff_Cheney: Columbine was the first big one in my lifetime, and it seemed like we didn't have another for a long stretch after that.  People aren't even talking about Vegas any more, I remember Columbine being front page news for 3+ months straight around here.


It wasn't just your lifetime.  That was the first time it ever happened.

Prior to that no one had ever considered shooting up a school.
 
2017-11-14 04:06:08 PM  

carkiller: Mikey1969: And THIS is why you don't jump on the news immediately after these stories:

School shooting in Tehama County leaves at least three dead
3 dead, shooter killed at Tehama County school - KCRA.com

In reality, there are 5 dead people, including the shooter, and NOBODY at the school is dead. This seems to be some kind of spree at multiple locations, but the news headlines specifically say that there are dead kids AT the school. Even the headline of TFA was wrong up until a few minutes ago.

Yeah, come on guys, he only wounded children.  No big, amirite?


No, the farking point, for illiterate morons, is that jumping on the bandwagon and screaming the second the story comes i=out isn't accurate at all. If you notice, NO students at the school died, but these assholes are so happy to try and get a scoop, that they have the wrong farking information.

Kind of like you, I guess.
 
2017-11-14 04:06:14 PM  

Pinner: Gun violence. No such thing. They just sit there.
Let's address people violence.

If we can narc on people that assault people sexually, we should be able to drop a dime on people that have violent tendencies or are too aggressive (and happen to own guns)


Difficulty: evidence suggests that even when that does happen no one in authority does anything. See the Texas church shooter (known problems that should have disqualified him from firearm ownership that were never properly reported), the Naval Yard shooter (at least two previous arrests for negligent firearm discharges that resulted in no charges being filed) or the Virginia Tech shooter (improperly filed court records which would have prevented him from legally purchasing a firearm had they been properly filed).
 
2017-11-14 04:06:45 PM  

Dimensio: Chicago-style deep dish pizza is the only true pizza.

No, it isn't. But you just keep on thinking it is. New York style pizza is the only real pizza.


You claim that, but I know that a number of people are still on the fence about the matter.


That's not true.

Chicago-style is too heavy to be supported by a fence.
 
2017-11-14 04:06:53 PM  
I know some of y'all are just dying to find out the identity of the perp so that you can roll up your sleeves and make political hay... but that's what drives these types of criminals, so my thoughts and prayers are for all media outlets to not reveal a name or image.


/anyway the shooter is probably Jewish
 
2017-11-14 04:07:31 PM  

AdmirableSnackbar: Doesn't matter to them. Shall. Not. Be. Infringed.

And this is the price we pay for it. Either get more gun nuts on your side, convince them that they need to compromise a little or get ready to lose your toys, because that's going to happen eventually due to gun nut intransigence on the issue. I realize you're actually one of the "good ones" - hence my snark earlier - but damn are you more rare than a unicorn.


"Give us a little now or we take it all" is not a "compromise" by any definition of the word, and the fact that you think it is is why nobody is willing to negotiate anymore.  People know that the "compromise" of "reasonable restrictions" will never be enough and people will always be coming back for more.  For fark's sake, this happened in California, being committed by an (apparent) felon, and you STILL want to restrict guns more.  What farking else could they do besides a farking outright ban?

/but nobody is coming for your guns, dontcha know
//inb4 "California's laws don't count because they're not nationwide"
 
2017-11-14 04:07:37 PM  
I'm more interested in why this guy thought this was the most productive use of his day. I'm guessing financial difficulties. Overburdened with debt, maybe.
 
2017-11-14 04:08:01 PM  

Mikey1969: carkiller: Mikey1969: And THIS is why you don't jump on the news immediately after these stories:

School shooting in Tehama County leaves at least three dead
3 dead, shooter killed at Tehama County school - KCRA.com

In reality, there are 5 dead people, including the shooter, and NOBODY at the school is dead. This seems to be some kind of spree at multiple locations, but the news headlines specifically say that there are dead kids AT the school. Even the headline of TFA was wrong up until a few minutes ago.

Yeah, come on guys, he only wounded children.  No big, amirite?

No, the farking point, for illiterate morons, is that jumping on the bandwagon and screaming the second the story comes i=out isn't accurate at all. If you notice, NO students at the school died, but these assholes are so happy to try and get a scoop, that they have the wrong farking information.

Kind of like you, I guess.


Ambulance chasing journalism
 
2017-11-14 04:08:09 PM  

durbnpoisn: Markoff_Cheney: Columbine was the first big one in my lifetime, and it seemed like we didn't have another for a long stretch after that.  People aren't even talking about Vegas any more, I remember Columbine being front page news for 3+ months straight around here.

It wasn't just your lifetime.  That was the first time it ever happened.

Prior to that no one had ever considered shooting up a school.


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No one... Ever.
 
2017-11-14 04:08:51 PM  

AdmirableSnackbar: rummonkey: the fact that any kids are being airlifted to the hospital because of ANOTHER shooting is enough.

It's not enough. Gun nuts need MORE freedom!  More death for their death cult is needed.  This is what they want.



Troll much?

And it needs to be repeated:

California already has strict gun laws.  You know what is just as useful as "thoughts and prayers"?  Bullshiat gun laws passed by the hacks in Sacramento.
 
2017-11-14 04:08:52 PM  

This text is now purple: Markoff_Cheney: Columbine was the first big one in my lifetime, and it seemed like we didn't have another for a long stretch after that.  People aren't even talking about Vegas any more, I remember Columbine being front page news for 3+ months straight around here.

Columbine had a compelling (if mostly false) narrative, which the media proceeded to beat into the ground.

Vegas was confounding because no one has a good idea of why it happened, and the police don't want to force it because it only brings their embarrassing response into the forefront.

Why do we still talk about JenBenet Ramsay, and not the hundreds of other missing kids?


Benet Ramsey was accidently killed by the family and they covered it up. We know that's what happened.
 
2017-11-14 04:09:03 PM  

AdmirableSnackbar: Dimensio: AdmirableSnackbar: Dimensio: It would also keep each firearm traceable to its last legal owner, which would drastically dry up the illegal gun market.

Gun nuts say we can't do that because it would lead directly to confiscation.

And that is why I have suggested admittedly complicated safeguards to assuage such concerns.

Doesn't matter to them.  Shall. Not. Be. Infringed.

And this is the price we pay for it.  Either get more gun nuts on your side, convince them that they need to compromise a little or get ready to lose your toys, because that's going to happen eventually due to gun nut intransigence on the issue.  I realize you're actually one of the "good ones" - hence my snark earlier - but damn are you more rare than a unicorn.


Give it your best shot.
 
2017-11-14 04:09:03 PM  

HumanSVD: AdmirableSnackbar: Dimensio: It would also keep each firearm traceable to its last legal owner, which would drastically dry up the illegal gun market.

Gun nuts say we can't do that because it would lead directly to confiscation.

Because it usually does.


And that defense is why I honestly have no sympathy for gun nuts and now assume that they love these mass shootings.  The incredibly remote chance that one day their toys may be illegal is too much of a risk to work to prevent needless deaths like these.  They're all terrible people.  Every last one of them.
 
2017-11-14 04:10:39 PM  

AdmirableSnackbar: And that defense is why I honestly have no sympathy for gun nuts and now assume that they love these mass shootings. The incredibly remote chance that one day their toys may be illegal is too much of a risk to work to prevent needless deaths like these. They're all terrible people. Every last one of them.


He says in regards to California, which did use one of its gun registries to go door to door confiscating guns.  But that shouldn't count for mistrust, because reasons.
 
2017-11-14 04:10:43 PM  

interstitialofficial: I know some of y'all are just dying to find out the identity of the perp so that you can roll up your sleeves and make political hay... but that's what drives these types of criminals, so my thoughts and prayers are for all media outlets to not reveal a name or image.


/anyway the shooter is probably Jewish


Outside of Chico and Red Bluff? We're probably talking about white supremacist, or meth head. Or both. (Christian, of course)
 
2017-11-14 04:10:48 PM  

NEDM: AdmirableSnackbar: Doesn't matter to them. Shall. Not. Be. Infringed.

And this is the price we pay for it. Either get more gun nuts on your side, convince them that they need to compromise a little or get ready to lose your toys, because that's going to happen eventually due to gun nut intransigence on the issue. I realize you're actually one of the "good ones" - hence my snark earlier - but damn are you more rare than a unicorn.

"Give us a little now or we take it all" is not a "compromise" by any definition of the word, and the fact that you think it is is why nobody is willing to negotiate anymore.  People know that the "compromise" of "reasonable restrictions" will never be enough and people will always be coming back for more.  For fark's sake, this happened in California, being committed by an (apparent) felon, and you STILL want to restrict guns more.  What farking else could they do besides a farking outright ban?

/but nobody is coming for your guns, dontcha know
//inb4 "California's laws don't count because they're not nationwide"


So let's just continue to do nothing because shiat's going real farking great as is.
 
2017-11-14 04:11:39 PM  

Mikey1969: carkiller: Mikey1969: And THIS is why you don't jump on the news immediately after these stories:

School shooting in Tehama County leaves at least three dead
3 dead, shooter killed at Tehama County school - KCRA.com

In reality, there are 5 dead people, including the shooter, and NOBODY at the school is dead. This seems to be some kind of spree at multiple locations, but the news headlines specifically say that there are dead kids AT the school. Even the headline of TFA was wrong up until a few minutes ago.

Yeah, come on guys, he only wounded children.  No big, amirite?

No, the farking point, for illiterate morons, is that jumping on the bandwagon and screaming the second the story comes i=out isn't accurate at all. If you notice, NO students at the school died, but these assholes are so happy to try and get a scoop, that they have the wrong farking information.

Kind of like you, I guess.


So what, I'm a reporter on the greater Sacramento beat now?  Sit on that and spin.  The wounded children being airlifted to the hospital was from one of your links, btw.  And excuuuuuuuuse me if not every T was dotted and every I crossed on this developing news story that falls a completely familiar as fark for anyone living in the US trajectory.
 
2017-11-14 04:12:06 PM  

AdmirableSnackbar: HumanSVD: AdmirableSnackbar: Dimensio: It would also keep each firearm traceable to its last legal owner, which would drastically dry up the illegal gun market.

Gun nuts say we can't do that because it would lead directly to confiscation.

Because it usually does.

And that defense is why I honestly have no sympathy for gun nuts and now assume that they love these mass shootings.  The incredibly remote chance that one day their toys may be illegal is too much of a risk to work to prevent needless deaths like these.  They're all terrible people.  Every last one of them.


Incredibly remote you say?  I guess we should ignore all those actual confiscation attempts than.

Also, do you have any proof whatsoever that a registration system would do anything to prevent needless deaths like these?  We don't even know the necessary details to determine whether registration could have done anything.

Also, California has registration, so there's that.
 
2017-11-14 04:12:08 PM  

bikerbob59: First you must define 'mass shooting'.  I don't consider three 'mass'.


I've heard that the death toll is now up to five, if that makes you feel better.
 
2017-11-14 04:12:15 PM  

AdmirableSnackbar: And that defense is why I honestly have no sympathy for gun nuts and now assume that they love these mass shootings. The incredibly remote chance that one day their toys may be illegal is too much of a risk to work to prevent needless deaths like these. They're all terrible people. Every last one of them.



Nope.
 
2017-11-14 04:12:23 PM  

Dimensio: Pinner: Gun violence. No such thing. They just sit there.
Let's address people violence.

If we can narc on people that assault people sexually, we should be able to drop a dime on people that have violent tendencies or are too aggressive (and happen to own guns)

Difficulty: evidence suggests that even when that does happen no one in authority does anything. See the Texas church shooter (known problems that should have disqualified him from firearm ownership that were never properly reported), the Naval Yard shooter (at least two previous arrests for negligent firearm discharges that resulted in no charges being filed) or the Virginia Tech shooter (improperly filed court records which would have prevented him from legally purchasing a firearm had they been properly filed).


But government should be the one I who can only have semi automatic firearms. You kniw, that same goverment that shiats on the 4th, and the same government whose police agents fark people over all the time.

Yes. Gun control is clearly what is needed.
 
2017-11-14 04:12:46 PM  
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Great police work there Lou.

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DAMMIT KEVIN!
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2017-11-14 04:12:55 PM  

NEDM: "Give us a little now or we take it all" is not a "compromise" by any definition of the word


Actually it's the definition of compromise. One side wants to reduce violence and has means that don't infringe on your rights to own toys of death.  The other side doesn't give a fark.  So there are three options.  One is to do nothing and more people die - great for the gun nuts, they see no downside whatsoever.  Two is to take away all the guns so that this doesn't happen.  A third option is somewhere in between, where there might be a little inconvenience for gun nuts in getting their death toys but it also works to keep those death toys out of the hands of incredibly dangerous people.  Gun nuts see options 2 and 3 as being the same and you're going along with it.

You're incredibly wrong.  Which is why I will have no sympathy for you when the path you want to go down meets its inevitable end.
 
2017-11-14 04:13:04 PM  

xalres: NEDM: AdmirableSnackbar: Doesn't matter to them. Shall. Not. Be. Infringed.

And this is the price we pay for it. Either get more gun nuts on your side, convince them that they need to compromise a little or get ready to lose your toys, because that's going to happen eventually due to gun nut intransigence on the issue. I realize you're actually one of the "good ones" - hence my snark earlier - but damn are you more rare than a unicorn.

"Give us a little now or we take it all" is not a "compromise" by any definition of the word, and the fact that you think it is is why nobody is willing to negotiate anymore.  People know that the "compromise" of "reasonable restrictions" will never be enough and people will always be coming back for more.  For fark's sake, this happened in California, being committed by an (apparent) felon, and you STILL want to restrict guns more.  What farking else could they do besides a farking outright ban?

/but nobody is coming for your guns, dontcha know
//inb4 "California's laws don't count because they're not nationwide"

So let's just continue to do nothing because shiat's going real farking great as is.


It is actually.  Crime is near record lows, and the long term trend is downward.
 
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