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2017-11-09 10:15:24 PM  
shouldn't that be jerk-offs?
 
2017-11-09 10:50:06 PM  

crustysandman: shouldn't that be jerk-offs?


Thread.
 
2017-11-09 11:40:01 PM  
PHRASI- oh I see you covered it already.


...with JIZZ !
 
2017-11-10 12:25:18 AM  
Because the phallus is the most omnimpotent organ humans possess, all women are liars and whores unworthy of any sort of trust, and above all else, women clearly deserve it.
 
2017-11-10 12:36:19 AM  
I'll admit to my own creepy behavior at a certain point in my life, but then I entered high school.
 
2017-11-10 12:56:01 AM  
I have to say it's a bit bizarre, I've never felt the compulsion to masturbate in front of anyone, but nor have I felt the compulsion to engage in S&M and some of the other kinks that some people enjoy.

If it's just an exhibitionist fetish I don't see anything wrong with it as long as everyone involved is consenting.  That's the big difference I see between the Weinstein case (where he trapped a woman in a hallway to jerk off in front of her) and the Louis CK reports, where the women involved say he asked if he could do it beforehand.

I suppose there's an argument to be made for implied/interpreted coercion based on power dynamics, and that makes things muddier, we can't expect people to be able to read minds about whether or not a 'yes' is actually a 'yes', but at the same time perhaps it's best to avoid situations where there could be confusion over such issues.
 
2017-11-10 12:58:58 AM  
I was going to submit this as:
"Because guys will use any excuse to jerk off"
 
2017-11-10 01:39:09 AM  
Perhaps this image wasn't the wisest to use for a link to a related article.

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2017-11-10 01:45:33 AM  
they don't understand why the rest of us don't do it, too.

Ugh.
 
2017-11-10 01:54:19 AM  
What if the woman pays you for it?
 
2017-11-10 01:56:41 AM  
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2017-11-10 01:57:24 AM  

harleyquinnical: Because the phallus is the most omnimpotent organ humans possess, all women are liars and whores unworthy of any sort of trust, and above all else, women clearly deserve it.


You forgot to mention they're expected to worship the phallus.
 
2017-11-10 02:00:06 AM  
When I was a little bitty boy
My grandmother bought me a cute little toy
Silver bells hanging on a string
She told me it was my ding-a-ling-a-ling, oh

   . . .
Once I was climbing the garden wall
I slipped and had a terrible fall
I fell so hard, I heard bells ring
But held on to my ding-a-ling-a-ling, oh
   . . .
Once, I was swimmin' 'cross Turtle Creek
Man, them snappers all around my feet
Sure was hard swimmin' 'cross that thing
With both hands holdin' my ding-a-ling-a-ling, oh
 
2017-11-10 02:04:31 AM  

crustysandman: shouldn't that be jerk-offs?


I believe you are right. Got to hand that to ya.
 
2017-11-10 02:11:07 AM  
It's about power.  It's no mystery, they're not ultra horny or even interested in sex or masturbation.  They're only interested in having, collecting, displaying, and feeling power; this is one of the means.
 
2017-11-10 02:11:59 AM  
Because it's a win-win scenario:
A) You get to harass someone and show them you're more powerful
B) You get to cum
 
2017-11-10 02:12:58 AM  
The women always tell me I'm doing it wrong.
 
2017-11-10 02:13:48 AM  

TuteTibiImperes: I suppose there's an argument to be made for implied/interpreted coercion based on power dynamics, and that makes things muddier, we can't expect people to be able to read minds about whether or not a 'yes' is actually a 'yes', but at the same time perhaps it's best to avoid situations where there could be confusion over such issues.


Unpaid Intern vs. President of the United States
 
2017-11-10 02:15:22 AM  
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Because they're freaks
 
kab
2017-11-10 02:15:38 AM  
You have to be narcissistic to the point of delusion to think that any woman you arent already involved with wants to see you wax the bishop.
 
2017-11-10 02:15:49 AM  
Very clinical article.  It would be interesting to see one of these serial wankers farking admit it all rather than deny and weasel, and then just submit themselves to clinical jackoff studies.
 
2017-11-10 02:19:25 AM  

harleyquinnical: Because the phallus is the most omnimpotent organ humans possess, all women are liars and whores unworthy of any sort of trust, and above all else, women clearly deserve it.


Well sure, when you say it like that it makes total sense.
 
2017-11-10 02:19:58 AM  
Why do women get us all hard with their being nice and courteous, all friendly like and I farking mean ALL friendly like. If you show the slightest inclination of any emotion other than pure disgust it obviously means you want to see our penis. And I can't blame you we all have animal urges, but you got to fight them sometime. You women don't understand that you being nice to all these unfortunate smucks is ruining their careers, and you can have minutes of fame.

/that sarcasm aside, how sweet would a reality show about these women be?
//The Real Victims of Hollywood
///sadly three of the women had to sleep with the producer to get the part.
////that could be the game, who had to sleep with who to get on the show.
 
2017-11-10 02:22:52 AM  

Alien Robot: TuteTibiImperes: I suppose there's an argument to be made for implied/interpreted coercion based on power dynamics, and that makes things muddier, we can't expect people to be able to read minds about whether or not a 'yes' is actually a 'yes', but at the same time perhaps it's best to avoid situations where there could be confusion over such issues.

Unpaid Intern vs. President of the United States


I've succeeded in avoiding that one for nearly 48 years.
 
2017-11-10 02:24:32 AM  
Of course men shouldn't yank it in front of people who aren't consenting.

But maybe.
 
2017-11-10 02:26:06 AM  
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2017-11-10 02:26:16 AM  

gopher321: PHRASI- oh I see you covered it already.


...with JIZZ !


Well, quite the master of the single entendre we have here.
 
2017-11-10 02:29:58 AM  

kab: You have to be narcissistic to the point of delusion to think that any woman you arent already involved with wants to see you wax the bishop.


There were 5 unnecessary words in the middle there
 
2017-11-10 02:40:52 AM  
Glamour!?
 
2017-11-10 02:41:04 AM  
From what I can tell of the Louis CK stories it sounds like he thought they'd be down with it.
 
2017-11-10 02:41:12 AM  
All of the men making headlines for masturbation were in a position of power or authority, raising the question: Is this behavior a form of power-crazy aggression?

I've seen this sort of thing reported on in the newspaper all the time. The only reason these instances are national news is that the men were in a position of power or authority.

Case in point: There is a story still on the front page of Fark about how much a problem there is with Cook County Correctional inmates masturbating at female visitors.
 
2017-11-10 02:42:03 AM  

Habeas Porpoise: kab: You have to be narcissistic to the point of delusion to think that any woman you arent already involved with wants to see you wax the bishop.

There were 5 unnecessary words in the middle there


Nah, some women do like to watch.  They just don't want unsolicited dick pics.
 
yms
2017-11-10 02:42:26 AM  

drjekel_mrhyde: What if the woman pays you for it?


You had to bring your mom into it.
 
2017-11-10 02:45:15 AM  
.
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    .
     .
       .                 Say it aint so.... :'(
 
2017-11-10 02:46:46 AM  

Krieghund: All of the men making headlines for masturbation were in a position of power or authority, raising the question: Is this behavior a form of power-crazy aggression?

I've seen this sort of thing reported on in the newspaper all the time. The only reason these instances are national news is that the men were in a position of power or authority.

Case in point: There is a story still on the front page of Fark about how much a problem there is with Cook County Correctional inmates masturbating at female visitors.


Something something doing hard time.
 
2017-11-10 03:02:53 AM  
Because it's handy?
 
2017-11-10 03:06:07 AM  
I think it's related to the same kind of thinking behind the sending of dick pics. The unrepentant masturbator knows the woman is not interested in seeing his penis, she's sure as hell not interested in seeing him play with his penis.  This is why he does it, that's the kick. There is a whole range of human behavior that you can engage in to annoy other people. Fart in an elevator full of people and see how they react. Masturbating in front of them is at the top of that pyramid because to be able to do it and not get arrested for it is a privilege only the powerful have. If a regular guy tried pulling what Weinstein did he get his head handed to him.
 
2017-11-10 03:29:43 AM  
Several women accused Hollywood producer Harvey Weinstein of masturbating in front of them. Weinstein denied "any allegations of non-consensual sex," a spokeswoman said last month.

Wow, shades of Clinton. The next thing they will say is that it depends on what your definition is, is.

Oh, and the answer  to the question, Because the men who do this to others are DICKS.
 
2017-11-10 03:36:08 AM  
"Made to watch"? Did he lock the door or something?

/Just open the door and yell "Hey, come watch this dude jackin' it" and see where that leads
 
2017-11-10 03:44:00 AM  

drayno76: It's about power.  It's no mystery, they're not ultra horny or even interested in sex or masturbation.  They're only interested in having, collecting, displaying, and feeling power; this is one of the means.


I think it's the opposite. They're powerful, therefore they are able to exploit that power to achieve their sexual fantasies. They understand that the power dynamic involved makes it less likely they will get in trouble for it.
 
2017-11-10 03:47:39 AM  
Lets picture humans before modern civilization, before we wore clothes and were just out of the trees.  Did certain males do this to the females on a regular basis, or is it a kink developed with civilization?

What I am trying to do is decouple the behavior with today's social norms.  (in which case the concept of exhibitionism is out the window, because if you're living life naked your donger is always out there.)  Is there an evolutionary purpose to it?   They are wasting jizz, but maybe there was a power play aspect to it that granted them or helped them keep status / keep the females subservient, and eventually offered a social advantage that translated into an evolutionary advantage.   Otherwise why is it a deeply rooted desire in a lot of men?
 
2017-11-10 03:59:20 AM  
I never found this guy funny. He's not a funny guy. Who cares what he does with his junk?

/Move on, nothing to see here.
 
2017-11-10 04:04:12 AM  

Krieghund: All of the men making headlines for masturbation were in a position of power or authority, raising the question: Is this behavior a form of power-crazy aggression?

I've seen this sort of thing reported on in the newspaper all the time. The only reason these instances are national news is that the men were in a position of power or authority.

Case in point: There is a story still on the front page of Fark about how much a problem there is with Cook County Correctional inmates masturbating at female visitors.


My wife got picked up for an unpaid parking ticket in Las Vegas.  I paid her bond almost immediately.  She said it was hell in there. They locked everyone to their chairs because the women kept on sexually harassing the police officers... "Show me your dick, let me suck your dick, I want to lick your asshole and taste what you had for breakfast."  shiat like that.  It's a farking madhouse.

Strange how that didn't make it in the article, isn't it?

Maybe, if they weren't busy incarcerating people for $25 in unpaid fines, they might be able to create an environment that didn't encourage sexual harassment.  Right now, they're failing miserably.

Or five years ago. Whatever.  When a problem is pervasive is a jail, it isn't the inmates who are to blame.  They have almost no free will to exercise.
 
2017-11-10 04:07:52 AM  

backhand.slap.of.reason: Krieghund: All of the men making headlines for masturbation were in a position of power or authority, raising the question: Is this behavior a form of power-crazy aggression?

I've seen this sort of thing reported on in the newspaper all the time. The only reason these instances are national news is that the men were in a position of power or authority.

Case in point: There is a story still on the front page of Fark about how much a problem there is with Cook County Correctional inmates masturbating at female visitors.

My wife got picked up for an unpaid parking ticket in Las Vegas.  I paid her bond almost immediately.  She said it was hell in there. They locked everyone to their chairs because the women kept on sexually harassing the police officers... "Show me your dick, let me suck your dick, I want to lick your asshole and taste what you had for breakfast."  shiat like that.  It's a farking madhouse.

Strange how that didn't make it in the article, isn't it?

Maybe, if they weren't busy incarcerating people for $25 in unpaid fines, they might be able to create an environment that didn't encourage sexual harassment.  Right now, they're failing miserably.

Or five years ago. Whatever.  When a problem is pervasive is a jail, it isn't the inmates who are to blame.  They have almost no free will to exercise.


'picked up for an unpaid parking ticket?'

How does that work? Did they issue a warrant?
 
2017-11-10 04:08:11 AM  

harlock: Lets picture humans before modern civilization, before we wore clothes and were just out of the trees.  Did certain males do this to the females on a regular basis, or is it a kink developed with civilization?

What I am trying to do is decouple the behavior with today's social norms.  (in which case the concept of exhibitionism is out the window, because if you're living life naked your donger is always out there.)  Is there an evolutionary purpose to it?   They are wasting jizz, but maybe there was a power play aspect to it that granted them or helped them keep status / keep the females subservient, and eventually offered a social advantage that translated into an evolutionary advantage.   Otherwise why is it a deeply rooted desire in a lot of men?


Urination wasn't eroticised until indoor plumbing came about. For something to be erotic there has to be some level of mystery or imagination, which you probably don't get in a troop of nude apes.

Now stop imagining the nude apes and early humans, hairy breasts exposed, in a deserted wing of the museum of natural history.
 
2017-11-10 04:13:23 AM  

UsikFark: harlock: Lets picture humans before modern civilization, before we wore clothes and were just out of the trees.  Did certain males do this to the females on a regular basis, or is it a kink developed with civilization?

What I am trying to do is decouple the behavior with today's social norms.  (in which case the concept of exhibitionism is out the window, because if you're living life naked your donger is always out there.)  Is there an evolutionary purpose to it?   They are wasting jizz, but maybe there was a power play aspect to it that granted them or helped them keep status / keep the females subservient, and eventually offered a social advantage that translated into an evolutionary advantage.   Otherwise why is it a deeply rooted desire in a lot of men?

Urination wasn't eroticised until indoor plumbing came about. For something to be erotic there has to be some level of mystery or imagination, which you probably don't get in a troop of nude apes.

Now stop imagining the nude apes and early humans, hairy breasts exposed, in a deserted wing of the museum of natural history.


That's a good point.  A LOT of fetishes are a result of social taboo.  (just check out the Victorians...)
 
2017-11-10 04:19:35 AM  
1. Charges of masturbation categorically denied, nothing independently confirmed.
2. So what makes men do this?


huh?
 
2017-11-10 04:23:31 AM  

BafflerMeal: backhand.slap.of.reason: Krieghund: All of the men making headlines for masturbation were in a position of power or authority, raising the question: Is this behavior a form of power-crazy aggression?

I've seen this sort of thing reported on in the newspaper all the time. The only reason these instances are national news is that the men were in a position of power or authority.

Case in point: There is a story still on the front page of Fark about how much a problem there is with Cook County Correctional inmates masturbating at female visitors.

My wife got picked up for an unpaid parking ticket in Las Vegas.  I paid her bond almost immediately.  She said it was hell in there. They locked everyone to their chairs because the women kept on sexually harassing the police officers... "Show me your dick, let me suck your dick, I want to lick your asshole and taste what you had for breakfast."  shiat like that.  It's a farking madhouse.

Strange how that didn't make it in the article, isn't it?

Maybe, if they weren't busy incarcerating people for $25 in unpaid fines, they might be able to create an environment that didn't encourage sexual harassment.  Right now, they're failing miserably.

Or five years ago. Whatever.  When a problem is pervasive is a jail, it isn't the inmates who are to blame.  They have almost no free will to exercise.

'picked up for an unpaid parking ticket?'

How does that work? Did they issue a warrant?


No.  They came to our farking hotel room at 8:00 in the morning.  We had gotten the ticket in Laughlin about a year before.  My wife went to court on it and set up a payment plan, didn't make the last $25 payment.
 
2017-11-10 04:24:58 AM  

backhand.slap.of.reason: BafflerMeal: backhand.slap.of.reason: Krieghund: All of the men making headlines for masturbation were in a position of power or authority, raising the question: Is this behavior a form of power-crazy aggression?

I've seen this sort of thing reported on in the newspaper all the time. The only reason these instances are national news is that the men were in a position of power or authority.

Case in point: There is a story still on the front page of Fark about how much a problem there is with Cook County Correctional inmates masturbating at female visitors.

My wife got picked up for an unpaid parking ticket in Las Vegas.  I paid her bond almost immediately.  She said it was hell in there. They locked everyone to their chairs because the women kept on sexually harassing the police officers... "Show me your dick, let me suck your dick, I want to lick your asshole and taste what you had for breakfast."  shiat like that.  It's a farking madhouse.

Strange how that didn't make it in the article, isn't it?

Maybe, if they weren't busy incarcerating people for $25 in unpaid fines, they might be able to create an environment that didn't encourage sexual harassment.  Right now, they're failing miserably.

Or five years ago. Whatever.  When a problem is pervasive is a jail, it isn't the inmates who are to blame.  They have almost no free will to exercise.

'picked up for an unpaid parking ticket?'

How does that work? Did they issue a warrant?

No.  They came to our farking hotel room at 8:00 in the morning.  We had gotten the ticket in Laughlin about a year before.  My wife went to court on it and set up a payment plan, didn't make the last $25 payment.


In case I'm wasn't specific enough, they run the names of hotel guests for active warrants.  The warrant wasn't for the ticket itself, it was for setting up a payment plan and not paying the fine.
 
2017-11-10 04:25:01 AM  

backhand.slap.of.reason: They have almost no free will to exercise.


I doubt they'd be exercising if they had more free will.
 
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