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(The New York Observer)   Intel agencies have video of Two-pump Trump two pumping though there may be fakes where there are three pumps   ( observer.com) divider line
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2017-11-09 02:10:05 PM  
FTFA: Hard facts remain elusive

Alopecia drugs will do that to you...
 
2017-11-09 02:35:54 PM  
So basically, and I had to read this while the stupid ad-block popup was prevalent, there may be an actual "tape" and this is evidenced because the Russians are churning out so many fakes in order to muddy the waters.  Is that correct?
 
2017-11-09 03:21:47 PM  
So it's not just two scoops/
 
2017-11-09 03:21:53 PM  
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2017-11-09 03:33:00 PM  
This is the Observer. There probably is a tape and this is Jared's way of muddying the waters.
 
2017-11-09 03:38:59 PM  
I doubt anyone would be shocked if it turns out Trump really is into watching prostitutes piss on each other...

I mean, look at him.
 
2017-11-09 03:58:31 PM  

keylock71: I doubt anyone would be shocked if it turns out Trump really is into watching prostitutes piss on each other...

I mean, look at him.


but you have to wonder what type of person would view this as worse than the sexual assault he has already admitted to and has been accused of by many women.
 
2017-11-09 04:02:30 PM  
Let's assume Putin has the pee-pee tape.  This is not a stretch to assume.  Let's further assume the Russians has tons of shiat they are using to black mail tons of people.

Putin will not release the tape as long as his leverage on Trump is still useful.  Once Trump is useless, there is no longer value in not releasing the tame and in fact it would be a powerful way of letting all those other people, they are blackmailing, that they are not f$cking around.
 
2017-11-09 04:11:39 PM  
Russia has definitely pushed faked sex tapes in the past to discredit opposition members. I have my own thoughts on whether Trump would or wouldn't have said no if someone dropped 5 beautiful Russian women in his lap. But Russia has definitely used this tactic in the past and has totally been willing to create such things from whole cloth if  the sucker didn't actually take the bait.
 
2017-11-09 04:23:12 PM  
 
2017-11-09 04:33:43 PM  

EmmaLou: This is the Observer. There probably is a tape and this is Jared's way of muddying the waters.


Still, could you imagine how much it would suck if your boss told you that you had to watch Trump porn videos and determine which ones were fake?
 
2017-11-09 04:35:10 PM  
This thread is perfectly fine without videos.
 
2017-11-09 04:36:21 PM  
It's this sort of thread that you hope the One Pump Trump Chump comes to (if he's even still around), just so he can be mocked in a thread where it actually fits...
 
2017-11-09 04:37:49 PM  
I'm going to assume that this means there are dozens of real DJT sex tapes.

I'll be in my bunk

with a barf bag.
 
2017-11-09 04:38:10 PM  
So...drown everyone in enough bullshiat they won't believe the real thing? I'd say Americans aren't that stupid, but what a lie that would be.

This will be resoundingly successful.
 
2017-11-09 04:38:16 PM  
I'm reporting this entire thread, including all future comments, videos and pics, right now.

You're all busted!
 
2017-11-09 04:38:21 PM  

EmmaLou: This is the Observer. There probably is a tape and this is Jared's way of muddying the waters.


Either that, or Jared knows that the Two Scoops clan is setting him up to take the fall for all the Russia stuff.
And before you play the "son-in-law" card, do you think marriage vows mean much to the Trump clan?
 
2017-11-09 04:39:19 PM  
My security software did not like that site.
 
2017-11-09 04:39:52 PM  

HydroMonkey: So...drown everyone in enough bullshiat they won't believe the real thing? I'd say Americans aren't that stupid, but what a lie that would be.

This will be resoundingly successful.


They're going to Dan rather it. Sucker a journalist with a fake so when the real one hits, no one will believe it or care.
 
2017-11-09 04:40:25 PM  

jgbrowning: My security software did not like that site.


It's a Jared Kushner rag, so go figure.
 
2017-11-09 04:41:00 PM  
The lede is buried:  it's not just the Russians who have kompromat:

"As many as a dozen intelligence services worldwide, on four continents, are in possession of some sort of "Trump tape" featuring sexual escapades of a controversial nature; in some cases, the women involved appear to be underage. Some of these tapes have been shared with the Mueller investigation. "
 
2017-11-09 04:41:30 PM  

mrshowrules: keylock71: I doubt anyone would be shocked if it turns out Trump really is into watching prostitutes piss on each other...

I mean, look at him.

but you have to wonder what type of person would view this as worse than the sexual assault he has already admitted to and has been accused of by many women.


What if they were male prostitutes?
 
2017-11-09 04:42:00 PM  
"The pee tape is fake."
"There are dozens of fake pee tapes."
"With Intelligence, you never know what is real."

So the pee tape is dropping soon. Next week maybe?
 
2017-11-09 04:42:29 PM  

IgG4: Russia has definitely pushed faked sex tapes in the past to discredit opposition members. I have my own thoughts on whether Trump would or wouldn't have said no if someone dropped 5 beautiful Russian women in his lap. But Russia has definitely used this tactic in the past and has totally been willing to create such things from whole cloth if  the sucker didn't actually take the bait.


Between this and Schiller saying that there was an offer of sending 5 women up to the suite (and him testifying that he waited for a while then left).....there's definitely a pee tape. There are probably lots of tapes....some of them real.
 
2017-11-09 04:42:55 PM  
Thank you Jared's newspaper for keeping us infromed.
 
2017-11-09 04:43:30 PM  
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Two pumps you say?
 
2017-11-09 04:43:50 PM  
(hork) ...

(hork)

(shudder)
 
2017-11-09 04:44:39 PM  
Let's say there's no pee tape. Who cares.
The years of long running dirt and intertwined finances of Trump, Russia, mob ties, money laundering, etc etc will be plenty to show collusion tactics for monetary gain  or policy favors.
I think Mueller has enough already on a dozen or so admin players. The challenge is, how to roll it out for maximum effect i.e plea deals, flipping on people, turning over additional evidence...
Also, it's a delicate matter on how to deliver this to the public without creating total govt chaos. Mueller: "Uh, holy shiat. Everyone is going to jail. Where do we start?"
IMO, anyway.
 
2017-11-09 04:44:57 PM  

EmmaLou: This is the Observer. There probably is a tape and this is Jared's way of muddying the waters.


Was going to mention that this is the Observer but that John Schindler is a solid reporter on intelligence agencies (he is the source of the "he will die in jail" comment all the way back in February).

Basically the problem with kompromat is it doesn't need to be accurate. We know that Trump has bragged about his interest in beautiful girls. We know that he partied with Ermin Agalarov in 2013 in St. Petersburg (and Keith Schiller just told Congress he stopped them from sending 5 prostitutes to Trump's room in Moscow the same year.)

They created a situation where it is plausible that there is something untoward there, and all it takes is a little low quality cameras and a similar looking dude and they can claim whatever they want happened.
 
2017-11-09 04:45:27 PM  
I have a feeling that this old school tradecraft aimed at "muddying the waters" will fail because in this internet age everyone and everyone's brother/mother/sister/father/lover/fri​end will be looking at the waters and repetition and FW:FW:FW:FW may not be your friend after these are passed around and finally someone points out that a mole just underneath and to the left of...okay..not going there, but...
 
2017-11-09 04:45:30 PM  
Or in other words, the White House is seeding information that there's a bunch of fake sex tapes out there, so when the sex tape comes out they can say, "Yeah, but remember all those stories about fake sex tapes? This tape is fake."
 
2017-11-09 04:45:45 PM  

SirBarsalot: "The pee tape is fake."
"There are dozens of fake pee tapes."
"With Intelligence, you never know what is real."

So the pee tape is dropping soon. Next week maybe?


4 weeks. They have to edit out Kevin Spacey's scenes and reshoot them with Christopher Plummer.
 
2017-11-09 04:46:04 PM  
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2017-11-09 04:47:42 PM  
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2017-11-09 04:50:29 PM  

mrshowrules: keylock71: I doubt anyone would be shocked if it turns out Trump really is into watching prostitutes piss on each other...

I mean, look at him.

but you have to wonder what type of person would view this as worse than the sexual assault he has already admitted to and has been accused of by many women.


It's like the Ray Rice videos.  When the first video came out, it was kinda brushed under the rug since you could only assume what happened in the elevator, but you couldn't prove beyond 'he said, she said'.  Once the video was released actually providing the video footage of him physically knocking her out, that's when suddenly everyone gets up in arms.

Right now, sure Trumps talked about abusing women, and he's admitted to assaulting women, but until actual video proof of him doing nasty stuff comes out, it's all talk.

You could probably get a good doctorate thesis out of this phenomenon for a psychological study.
 
2017-11-09 04:52:05 PM  
"Two Pump Trump" is the name of my successful weight loss through bulimia tape.
 
2017-11-09 04:56:39 PM  
Kush's paper?  Bad Subby.
 
2017-11-09 04:57:09 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: EmmaLou: This is the Observer. There probably is a tape and this is Jared's way of muddying the waters.

Still, could you imagine how much it would suck if your boss told you that you had to watch Trump porn videos and determine which ones were fake?


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2017-11-09 05:00:39 PM  

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Oh my...  getting my popcorn!
 
2017-11-09 05:01:00 PM  

imnotadoctor: Satanic_Hamster: EmmaLou: This is the Observer. There probably is a tape and this is Jared's way of muddying the waters.

Still, could you imagine how much it would suck if your boss told you that you had to watch Trump porn videos and determine which ones were fake?

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And keep in mind:
This exact situation has occurred in multiple intelligence agencies if the article is true.  That means multiple bosses had to tell multiple employees that they needed to separate the fake Trump porn from the real Trump porn.

Think about that.
 
2017-11-09 05:03:00 PM  
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2017-11-09 05:04:06 PM  
Two of the sources said the bodyguard, Keith Schiller, viewed the offer as a joke, and immediately responded, "We don't do that type of stuff."

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2017-11-09 05:06:29 PM  

UberDave: So basically, and I had to read this while the stupid ad-block popup was prevalent, there may be an actual "tape" and this is evidenced because the Russians are churning out so many fakes in order to muddy the waters.  Is that correct?


Here!

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2017-11-09 05:10:09 PM  
I'm sure Melania was just happy it wasn't her night in the box.
 
2017-11-09 05:12:26 PM  
If I get a look at the pixels, I'll be able to tell which is the real one.
 
2017-11-09 05:16:19 PM  
Three pumps is a penalty.  Every time.

Intel154: The lede is buried:  it's not just the Russians who have kompromat:

"As many as a dozen intelligence services worldwide, on four continents, are in possession of some sort of "Trump tape" featuring sexual escapades of a controversial nature; in some cases, the women involved appear to be underage. Some of these tapes have been shared with the Mueller investigation. "


Thank you.  And note what he says immediately after:

One Western intelligence agency with a solid professional reputation is in possession of an unpleasant Trump tape that they assess "with high confidence" is bona fide, i.e. exactly what it appears to be.

This is Jared Kushner's magazine, confirming that the kompromat is real and it's spectacular.  How farked up is that?  Apart from the legal, political, and national security implications, this is some top-shelf family intrigue.
 
2017-11-09 05:21:31 PM  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: Or in other words, the White House is seeding information that there's a bunch of fake sex tapes out there, so when the sex tape comes out they can say, "Yeah, but remember all those stories about fake sex tapes? This tape is fake"


Yep.  And establishing their own list of minimal standards they think the press source needs, before reporting on it:

"...and in the current climate, it seems doubtful that any Trump tape can be verified sufficiently to have a mainstream journalistic outfit report its details. After all, with multiple fakes out there, any bona fide tape would require not just rock-solid technical authentication, but also firming up the exact place and date of the incident, plus confirmation from the girl(s) caught on camera too. That seems like an insurmountably high bar to clear at present."

 There you go. Set up the standards, and proclaim them too high to be met. That way later on you can use yourself as a source, as he does earlier in this article.
This is as fascinating as any propaganda the Russians have.  And oh, yeah... that tape is SO dropping soon.
 
2017-11-09 05:24:59 PM  
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2017-11-09 05:26:10 PM  

Mikey1969: Two of the sources said the bodyguard, Keith Schiller, viewed the offer as a joke, and immediately responded, "We don't do that type of stuff."

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I believe him.  If you have the slightest iota of common sense, you know when a random person sends you a girl or drugs or whatever illegal, there's going to be a hook in there somewhere.  Trump might not know that but someone in his entourage must.
 
2017-11-09 05:29:57 PM  

UberDave: So basically, and I had to read this while the stupid ad-block popup was prevalent, there may be an actual "tape" and this is evidenced because the Russians are churning out so many fakes in order to muddy the waters.  Is that correct?


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