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2017-11-05 10:20:49 AM  
Okay heterosexual poop is coming out
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2017-11-05 10:37:01 AM  
Twitter doesn't want to be perceived as a porn site. Twitter wants to be taken seriously.
 
2017-11-05 10:44:22 AM  
Well are we talking about the good kind of bisexual? In which case this is a travesty.
 
2017-11-05 10:51:27 AM  
Saudis Arabia owns Twitter.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2017-11-05 10:59:54 AM  
Flickr also discourages searches for some porn-related terms. For content you can search for, Flickr has a search filter so you can only be as shocked as you want to be. Twitter could sell a similar service. Twitter Lite gets you boring stuff like cats, and you can't set your search filter to anything but "safe". Twitter Pro ($5 per month) gets you all the content you really came for. Poop coming out, poop going in, tongues going out, tongues going in, girls, cups, Mr. Hands, it's all there. Twitter Mature ($10 per month) unlocks presidential tweets.
 
2017-11-05 11:06:43 AM  
It does seem odd that they would just eliminate content associated with the hashtag bisexual. It sounds like these are images? So I guess they are worried about pornography but that's kind of reinforcing the heavy sexualization of people on the middle of the sexual spectrum. Does that mean that a user can't post a picture of themselves at a conference on sexuality with #bisexual #panel #pride or something? There are serious issues that the bi community is trying to educate about like married men living on the DL and how to navigate not fitting neatly into a box or with unsupportive family, school administration, religious leaders, schoolmates, and colleagues? 

Shouldn't our goal be open and frank discussions about our identities and how to overcome challenges and celebrate ourselves? Given the enormously high rate of suicide for LGBTQ teens and young adults, wouldn't it be a good thing if we could give them spaces to ask questions and find support? Especially on social media when so many of them are living with very real and vile prejudice?

I am NOT at all an expert on any of this but it sounds kind of stupid and hurtful.

Especially when Twitter is so lax about Russian bots and hate speech.
 
2017-11-05 11:09:31 AM  

ZAZ: Flickr also discourages searches for some porn-related terms. For content you can search for, Flickr has a search filter so you can only be as shocked as you want to be. Twitter could sell a similar service. Twitter Lite gets you boring stuff like cats, and you can't set your search filter to anything but "safe". Twitter Pro ($5 per month) gets you all the content you really came for. Poop coming out, poop going in, tongues going out, tongues going in, girls, cups, Mr. Hands, it's all there. Twitter Mature ($10 per month) unlocks presidential tweets.


Why did you immediately go to pornography in a discussion about #bisexual? Isn't that exactly the problem here that is being brought to light?
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2017-11-05 11:14:24 AM  
ginandbacon

As I understood the article, you can use any tags you want but a search won't find them. If searches worked, I don't think your hypothetical post would be heard through all the noise. It would be like napalm girl in a sea of child porn.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2017-11-05 11:20:24 AM  
ginandbacon

I don't think "many people on the internet are looking for porn" should be controversial. I don't think "bisexual is a common porn search term" should be controversial. Web site operators have reasons independent of their feelings about sexual orientation to restrict searches. Twitter is based out of San Francisco. They're not trying to say "bi people are icky."
 
2017-11-05 11:35:39 AM  

ZAZ: ginandbacon

I don't think "many people on the internet are looking for porn" should be controversial. I don't think "bisexual is a common porn search term" should be controversial. Web site operators have reasons independent of their feelings about sexual orientation to restrict searches. Twitter is based out of San Francisco. They're not trying to say "bi people are icky."


Straight isn't a common porn search. Yet on Twitter, it brings up multiple pornographic images.
 
2017-11-05 12:09:23 PM  
Some are calling it bi-erasure, as photo results for "lesbian" and "gay" still exist.

What a bi-erasure might look like:
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/OK, so Vince Clarke is straight, and Andy Bell is gay, and they're just in drag in that, but I hope the Gods of poetic license will give me a pass on this one ;D
 
2017-11-05 01:24:50 PM  

ZAZ: Twitter doesn't want to be perceived as a porn site. Twitter wants to be taken seriously.


Boy do they have a long way to go.
 
2017-11-05 01:52:08 PM  

iron de havilland: Some are calling it bi-erasure, as photo results for "lesbian" and "gay" still exist.

What a bi-erasure might look like:
[img.fark.net image 850x445]
/OK, so Vince Clarke is straight, and Andy Bell is gay, and they're just in drag in that, but I hope the Gods of poetic license will give me a pass on this one ;D


Well now that's confusing
 
2017-11-05 01:54:28 PM  
img.fark.netView Full Size
 
2017-11-05 01:56:25 PM  
Every bi-activist knows the problems of trying to search for bi-content on the web and some public wifi systems block it altogether, even when it's nothing to do with sex, because bisexual is seen as a dodgy word in itself.

I always just assumed it was the unspeakably perverted nature of the pornography I was searching for, rather than the fact that it was in some sense bisexual unspeakably perverted pornography. Good to know!
 
2017-11-05 01:58:12 PM  

ZAZ: Twitter doesn't want to be perceived as a porn site. Twitter wants to be taken seriously.


Twitter IS a serious platform, mostly for neo-Nazis and Russian psyops.
 
2017-11-05 02:25:46 PM  
Oh good. Another 'problem' being brought to light.  I'm sure this is the only term Twitter blocks whick is likely to bring up large quantities of highly sexualized material.

I'm pretty sure having that on my search history in school would have gotten my parents brought into the principles office. Isn't Twitter supposed to be an all ages platform?

/Not that they would be checking my proxy.
 
2017-11-05 02:34:57 PM  

Jz4p: Oh good. Another 'problem' being brought to light.  I'm sure this is the only term Twitter blocks whick is likely to bring up large quantities of highly sexualized material.

I'm pretty sure having that on my search history in school would have gotten my parents brought into the principles office. Isn't Twitter supposed to be an all ages platform?


1) Blocking the tag also serves to cut people off from support and information.
2) Why do so many people assume that bisexuality is inherently pornographic?
 
2017-11-05 02:36:24 PM  

Shedim: Jz4p: Oh good. Another 'problem' being brought to light.  I'm sure this is the only term Twitter blocks whick is likely to bring up large quantities of highly sexualized material.

I'm pretty sure having that on my search history in school would have gotten my parents brought into the principles office. Isn't Twitter supposed to be an all ages platform?

1) Blocking the tag also serves to cut people off from support and information.
2) Why do so many people assume that bisexuality is inherently pornographic?


It generally is if I have anything to do with it.

/TMI?
 
2017-11-05 03:05:03 PM  
In fairness a lot of gay and lesbian activists want to dump the whole bi issue as well. And oddly enough, folks who are bi see a fair amount of prejudice from within the gay community. In NoHo, which is considered a gay and lesbian paradise, coming out as bi is a quick way to lose some gay and lesbian friends. Yes, it's sh*tty, and there's a lot of weird prejudice that the gay community still has to work on.
 
2017-11-05 04:01:36 PM  

Shedim: Jz4p: Oh good. Another 'problem' being brought to light.  I'm sure this is the only term Twitter blocks whick is likely to bring up large quantities of highly sexualized material.

I'm pretty sure having that on my search history in school would have gotten my parents brought into the principles office. Isn't Twitter supposed to be an all ages platform?

1) Blocking the tag also serves to cut people off from support and information.
2) Why do so many people assume that bisexuality is inherently pornographic?


I'm guessing people think it's inherently pornographic because they got all their "information" from internet image searches.
 
2017-11-05 04:26:36 PM  

ZAZ: Twitter doesn't want to be perceived as a porn site. Twitter wants to be taken seriously.


There is a ridiculous amount of porn on Twitter.  Like I thought Pornhub had a lot of porn, I think Twitter has more.
 
2017-11-05 04:26:44 PM  
Pretty soon swimming, diving, water polo, and jet ski enthusiasts will have to find a better tag than #watersports.
 
2017-11-05 04:34:59 PM  
Actually Twitter bans anyone they find even remotely offensive, much less Nazis.  I would assume pussy grabbing is still ok.
 
2017-11-05 05:26:12 PM  

IlGreven: Pretty soon swimming, diving, water polo, and jet ski enthusiasts will have to find a better tag than #watersports.


On the other hand, it's a golden age for us urine enthusiasts...
 
2017-11-05 05:55:01 PM  

Old Smokie: Actually Twitter bans anyone they find even remotely offensive, much less Nazis.  I would assume pussy grabbing is still ok.


Bill Clinton's still got his blue checkmark, so that's a definite yes.
 
2017-11-05 07:06:42 PM  

Thong_of_Zardoz: IlGreven: Pretty soon swimming, diving, water polo, and jet ski enthusiasts will have to find a better tag than #watersports.

On the other hand, it's a golden age for us urine enthusiasts...


Aren't they all?
 
2017-11-05 09:22:57 PM  

cirby: Old Smokie: Actually Twitter bans anyone they find even remotely offensive, much less Nazis.  I would assume pussy grabbing is still ok.

Bill Clinton's still got his blue checkmark, so that's a definite yes.


By offensive I meant right wing.  Centrist con artists are ok.
 
2017-11-05 09:44:54 PM  

ZAZ: ginandbacon

I don't think "many people on the internet are looking for porn" should be controversial. I don't think "bisexual is a common porn search term" should be controversial. Web site operators have reasons independent of their feelings about sexual orientation to restrict searches. Twitter is based out of San Francisco. They're not trying to say "bi people are icky."


So they also block 'straight', 'gay', 'lesbian', 'heterosexual', 'teen', 'breasts', 'bear', 'Zaz's mom' and other common sexual terms?

This is a large mistake to make for a platform like twitter.
 
2017-11-06 12:53:16 AM  

hubiestubert: In fairness a lot of gay and lesbian activists want to dump the whole bi issue as well. And oddly enough, folks who are bi see a fair amount of prejudice from within the gay community. In NoHo, which is considered a gay and lesbian paradise, coming out as bi is a quick way to lose some gay and lesbian friends. Yes, it's sh*tty, and there's a lot of weird prejudice that the gay community still has to work on.


Yeah, bisexual erasure (not the band, but I appreciated that earlier post) is still very much an issue in the LGBTQ+ community. It's like they forget that the B in there means something.

That said, this bisexual has never bothered to search for "bisexual' or "#bisexual" on Twitter. So I wouldn't have noticed this change.
 
2017-11-06 12:18:48 PM  

ginandbacon: Shouldn't our goal be open and frank discussions about our identities and how to overcome challenges and celebrate ourselves? Given the enormously high rate of suicide for LGBTQ teens and young adults, wouldn't it be a good thing if we could give them spaces to ask questions and find support? Especially on social media when so many of them are living with very real and vile prejudice?


The thing to remember is that if Twitter hadn't done something stupid, we wouldn't be reading.  Yeah, everything you posted makes sense (unless the reader is a homophobe/biphobe/whathaveyou), and is how the world SHOULD work.  But then someone farks it all up, and we Fark about it here...
 
2017-11-06 01:31:53 PM  

Plant Rights Activist: [img.fark.net image 566x577]


It's weird how often that comic gets posted in threads that it doesn't apply to, like this one.
 
2017-11-06 03:02:12 PM  

iron de havilland: Some are calling it bi-erasure, as photo results for "lesbian" and "gay" still exist.

What a bi-erasure might look like:
[img.fark.net image 850x445]
/OK, so Vince Clarke is straight, and Andy Bell is gay, and they're just in drag in that, but I hope the Gods of poetic license will give me a pass on this one ;D


It's amazing that Vince Clarke started three different legendary electronic bands: Depeche Mode, Yaz / Yazoo, and Erasure.
I just can't get enough!

I saw an Erasure documentary, wherein Vince Clarke admitted he wasn't familiar with ABBA's music before agreeing to make a cover album.
Who needs love like that?
 
2017-11-06 05:43:55 PM  
Pantygrabbers?

/s
 
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