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(Marketwatch)   Remember the proposed T-Mobile, Sprint merger? Well, both companies have just hung up   ( marketwatch.com) divider line
    More: Followup, Deutsche Telekom, T-Mobile parent Deutsche, Wall Street Journal, Sprint Chairman Masayoshi, mutually agreeable terms, T-Mobile's TMUS, T-Mobile US Inc., Sprint Corp.  
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2017-11-05 07:25:04 AM  
T-Mobile/Sprint wedding cut off. There will be no reception.
 
2017-11-05 08:52:54 AM  
Can you here me now?
 
2017-11-05 09:07:53 AM  

BalugaJoe: Can you here me now?


Where? Over there?
 
2017-11-05 09:08:08 AM  
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/T-Mobile customer
 
2017-11-05 09:13:40 AM  
Good, we don't need further consolidation of the cellular phone industry; what we do need is competition.
 
2017-11-05 09:54:31 AM  
hung-up? more like call dropped.
 
2017-11-05 09:55:19 AM  
until they restart talks again in a few months
 
2017-11-05 10:53:42 AM  
cool
 
2017-11-05 10:58:00 AM  

DarkSoulNoHope: Good, we don't need further consolidation of the cellular phone industry; what we do need is competition.


True, but this kind of sounds like the ACA debate. Not an ideal arrangement so lets just get rid of it and assume something better will come about. I believe a large part of the purpose of the merger was to better compete with the larger providers, and we don't have the type of people governing who once upon a time split up the large phone companies.
 
2017-11-05 10:59:51 AM  
From a customer end, it would have been a royal pain in the ass.

Sprint uses CDMA phones, T-Mobile uses GSM.  Their networks are incompatible, the merged company would have to either force one customer base or the other onto new phones for a new network, or just run two completely separate networks and deal with the inefficiency.
 
2017-11-05 11:21:12 AM  

Silverstaff: From a customer end, it would have been a royal pain in the ass.

Sprint uses CDMA phones, T-Mobile uses GSM.  Their networks are incompatible, the merged company would have to either force one customer base or the other onto new phones for a new network, or just run two completely separate networks and deal with the inefficiency.


..a whole lot of that and it just didn't really make sense to me. The third and fourth place providers merging to become.. slightly thirder place.
 
2017-11-05 11:36:44 AM  

Silverstaff: From a customer end, it would have been a royal pain in the ass.

Sprint uses CDMA phones, T-Mobile uses GSM.  Their networks are incompatible, the merged company would have to either force one customer base or the other onto new phones for a new network, or just run two completely separate networks and deal with the inefficiency.


It works pretty good for Google Fi customers who get both the Sprint network and T-Mobile...and the lifespan of a typical cellphone is like 1-2 years anyway.
 
2017-11-05 11:37:11 AM  

Silverstaff: From a customer end, it would have been a royal pain in the ass.

Sprint uses CDMA phones, T-Mobile uses GSM.  Their networks are incompatible, the merged company would have to either force one customer base or the other onto new phones for a new network, or just run two completely separate networks and deal with the inefficiency.


TMobile already did that when they bought metro pcs. The problem TMobile wanted to buy sprint and sprint was like okay but I get be in charge and TMobile was like no thanks. I'll just keep kicking your ass.
 
2017-11-05 11:52:19 AM  

Silverstaff: Sprint uses CDMA phones, T-Mobile uses GSM. Their networks are incompatible, the merged company would have to either force one customer base or the other onto new phones for a new network, or just run two completely separate networks and deal with the inefficiency.


A lot of multi-band phones today have radios/antennas for both GSM and CDMA networks so that's not all that big of a problem.

// plus sprint didn't have much of a network anyway.
 
2017-11-05 12:24:56 PM  

itsdan: DarkSoulNoHope: Good, we don't need further consolidation of the cellular phone industry; what we do need is competition.

True, but this kind of sounds like the ACA debate. Not an ideal arrangement so lets just get rid of it and assume something better will come about. I believe a large part of the purpose of the merger was to better compete with the larger providers, and we don't have the type of people governing who once upon a time split up the large phone companies.


Then the better solution would be to break up the larger companies into smaller parts and not let them merge and consolidate again with the falsehood of "It gives us a better chance to compete in today's market."
 
2017-11-05 12:33:51 PM  

Silverstaff: From a customer end, it would have been a royal pain in the ass.

Sprint uses CDMA phones, T-Mobile uses GSM.  Their networks are incompatible, the merged company would have to either force one customer base or the other onto new phones for a new network, or just run two completely separate networks and deal with the inefficiency.


It's pretty irrelevant at this point. We're many years into the LTE era these days. The bigger possible compatibility issue is Sprint's 2.5 GHz band where they run 'TD-LTE' which is a little different from 'regular LTE', but again, most of your higher-spec Androids and iPhones (90% of your traffic) is already compatible there, too.

Sprint's 2.5GHz band is pretty iffy for actual mobile phone use.  But, it's spectacular for line-of-sight rural broadband.  If they'd market it as that and build it out as that, that would be a good core business component for a unified TM/Sprint.  Not enough capital or attention to make it happen with Sprint alone unfortunately.
 
2017-11-05 01:27:27 PM  

BalugaJoe: Can you here me now?


I will never forgive Sprint for putting the Verizon guy on TV again. Did their marketing team realize exactly how much people hated looking at his stupid face when they decided to hire him?
 
2017-11-05 02:01:34 PM  

Mad_Radhu: BalugaJoe: Can you here me now?

I will never forgive Sprint for putting the Verizon guy on TV again. Did their marketing team realize exactly how much people hated looking at his stupid face when they decided to hire him?


That just meant people were paying attention, so, probably, yes.
 
2017-11-05 02:33:31 PM  
They're the sitcom will they won't they of the business world.
 
2017-11-05 03:07:08 PM  
What a T-mobile/Sprint merger already looks like:

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2017-11-05 05:56:58 PM  

DarkSoulNoHope: Good, we don't need further consolidation of the cellular phone industry; what we do need is competition.


What we need is a common network backbone, like they have in Europe...
 
2017-11-05 07:55:53 PM  

Fubegra: [vignette.wikia.nocookie.net image 200x133]
/T-Mobile customer


This. I wasn't looking forward to Canada-like pricing and service.

/only three major carriers up there
 
2017-11-05 08:28:33 PM  

The Bestest: Silverstaff: From a customer end, it would have been a royal pain in the ass.

Sprint uses CDMA phones, T-Mobile uses GSM.  Their networks are incompatible, the merged company would have to either force one customer base or the other onto new phones for a new network, or just run two completely separate networks and deal with the inefficiency.

..a whole lot of that and it just didn't really make sense to me. The third and fourth place providers merging to become.. slightly thirder place.


T-Mobile's parent company (Deutsche Telekom has over 60% of it) has been trying to offload it since 2010. Ze Germans want out, by any means necessary.
 
2017-11-05 10:39:07 PM  

dumbobruni: Ze Germans want out, by any means necessary.


Still better than the germans wanting in, historically..
 
2017-11-05 11:36:09 PM  

dumbobruni: The Bestest: Silverstaff: From a customer end, it would have been a royal pain in the ass.

Sprint uses CDMA phones, T-Mobile uses GSM.  Their networks are incompatible, the merged company would have to either force one customer base or the other onto new phones for a new network, or just run two completely separate networks and deal with the inefficiency.

..a whole lot of that and it just didn't really make sense to me. The third and fourth place providers merging to become.. slightly thirder place.

T-Mobile's parent company (Deutsche Telekom has over 60% of it) has been trying to offload it since 2010. Ze Germans want out, by any means necessary.


They did, but now they kind of want to keep it and sold off a European, Netherlands I think, to finance USA more in the 600mhz auction.  The Germans are not going to give up on the only mobile Telcom doing well in growth.
 
2017-11-06 07:57:19 AM  

TheSubjunctive: Silverstaff: From a customer end, it would have been a royal pain in the ass.

Sprint uses CDMA phones, T-Mobile uses GSM.  Their networks are incompatible, the merged company would have to either force one customer base or the other onto new phones for a new network, or just run two completely separate networks and deal with the inefficiency.

It's pretty irrelevant at this point. We're many years into the LTE era these days. The bigger possible compatibility issue is Sprint's 2.5 GHz band where they run 'TD-LTE' which is a little different from 'regular LTE', but again, most of your higher-spec Androids and iPhones (90% of your traffic) is already compatible there, too.

Sprint's 2.5GHz band is pretty iffy for actual mobile phone use.  But, it's spectacular for line-of-sight rural broadband.  If they'd market it as that and build it out as that, that would be a good core business component for a unified TM/Sprint.  Not enough capital or attention to make it happen with Sprint alone unfortunately.


They already tried it. It was called Wi Max.
 
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