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(The New York Times)   In order for children to be creative, they need to fight and quarrel with one another   ( nytimes.com) divider line
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2017-11-04 11:37:23 PM  
Brought to you by the Koch family.
 
2017-11-04 11:37:30 PM  
Farkers must be f*cking geniuses then.
 
2017-11-05 01:41:31 AM  
In a more roundabout way, I do the same thing. I make my students conduct or teach their band, piano, or steel drum peers. It forces them to listen to what their classmates are doing, be critical about it, and convey it in an honest, but tactful way.

There are only so many times I can say, "Are you [in my head] f***ing kidding me? Have you even picked up your instruments this week?" But when their classmates do it, it's different. "Guys, this doesn't sound like we've been practicing." It's honest, and it's not ME saying it. They can be honest with each other, and I'm not the one criticizing them. It's a technique I learned from a master conductor, whose books translate well into the regular classroom -- Dr. Peter Boonshaft of Hofstra University. I've had several master workshops with him, and I actually got to send one of my inner-city clarinetists to him years ago. She got in on an academic scholarship, though; not music.

Peer evaluation amongst kids is a great thing if you have the ground rules laid down. First graders are more prone to lift each other up than put each other down. They're a totally different brand of kids than we were, and we're better off for it.
 
2017-11-05 02:29:58 AM  
No they don't....
 
2017-11-05 02:45:57 AM  
Argue with logic, yes.Physically fight, absolutely not.
 
2017-11-05 05:57:24 AM  

Sydney Bridges: No they don't....


Toe, they do... you big doodie head
 
2017-11-05 10:53:13 AM  

Mr. Shabooboo: Argue with logic, yes.Physically fight, absolutely not.


I disagree on the physical fighting front.  If you have an older brother or sister, who is physically larger than you by a head and shoulder,  you learn techniques in fighting to even things up pretty damn quick.

If you call in mom and dad, things will be 10 times worse the next time they aren't around (our worse, they hide /destroy your stuff, and they know what you care about).
 
2017-11-05 05:57:50 PM  

Mr. Shabooboo: Argue with logic, yes.Physically fight, absolutely not.


Yea, let's not let your kids be kids.
 
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