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2017-11-04 07:36:20 AM  
I haven't had a true weekend ever in my career.
 
2017-11-04 08:00:56 AM  
If you don't need to take a break on the weekend, you didn't work hard enough during the week. I've worked for corporations and schools on both coasts. And I know this: most people spend at least three or four hours per day farking off.
 
2017-11-04 08:23:46 AM  
I'm up early to continue some training for a new job I started this week. Guess today they're training me on the fact that I'll be expected to work saturdays.
 
2017-11-04 09:49:10 AM  
I took this job specifically for the weekends off.
Whenever management makes any noise to the contrary, I remind them of that.
And that I'm articulate.
And would blog to the grave about their lack of integrity if they tried to change the deal.

I have 0 tolerance for corporate bullshiat.
They can try to play it, but they always buckle when they realize its a new world out there.
Shareholders read the internets.

You see stuff coming out of the woodwork now.
Old stuff.

You want to play nice in this world.
Want weekend workers?
Advertise for them, hire them.
That's not even thinking outside if the box.
That IS the farking box, baby.

Stand up, and don't cave.

Now go enjoy your weekend and ignore Subchicken Little
 
2017-11-04 09:49:34 AM  
Some companies run 24 hours a day 365 days a year . Others are 8 hours a day five days a week , news at 11 .
 
2017-11-04 09:52:12 AM  

August11: If you don't need to take a break on the weekend, you didn't work hard enough during the week. I've worked for corporations and schools on both coasts. And I know this: most people spend at least three or four hours per day farking off.


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2017-11-04 09:56:29 AM  
Meh. My job is 24/7. I'm sitting at an airport now because I have to be in a meeting on Sunday night.

But at least once a year I'll go backcountry camping for a week where there is no cell service.
 
2017-11-04 09:56:47 AM  
Article reminded me I have to send an e-mail to a client :-(
 
2017-11-04 09:57:52 AM  
Loverboy - Working For The Weekend (1981)
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2017-11-04 10:04:05 AM  
Article reminded me to check my work email in case something blew up overnight. No crisis, back to Not News. We don't need weekend work these days unless there's a crisis.
 
2017-11-04 10:09:06 AM  
Oh fark that shiat. They can ask me to work the weekend, but my answer will be F and U. Five days a week of soul-draining time suck is more than enough.
 
2017-11-04 10:16:23 AM  
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2017-11-04 10:17:10 AM  
The greatest job I ever had was one 2-3 year period where I was working 4/10s.  M-Th one week & then Tu-F the following week.  A four day weekend every other week...

"That's" how you do weekends
 
kab
2017-11-04 10:17:58 AM  
The work computah gets shut down around 6 pm on Friday, and thats that.

Even 5 days per week is excessive, frankly.  Humans aren't geared for spending the majority of their waking hours working.
 
2017-11-04 10:18:22 AM  

broadwayLamb: Article reminded me I have to send an e-mail to a client :-(


And you reminded me that I have to turn in my off-schedule hours sheet. Thanks!
 
2017-11-04 10:20:22 AM  
There are a lot of people who have identities that get very wrapped up in to whom they sell their labor, and many seem to like to wear their martyr badge (I work ALL the time) as a point of pride. Which is fine if that is truly what makes them happy. I doubt their loved ones (if they have any) feel quite the same way though.
 
2017-11-04 10:22:45 AM  

kab: The work computah gets shut down around 6 pm on Friday, and thats that.

Even 5 days per week is excessive, frankly.  Humans aren't geared for spending the majority of their waking hours working.


Certainly not.  In the US the 'Protestant work ethic' is more about social control than productivity, always was.
 
2017-11-04 10:30:29 AM  
The more time you require people to put in at the office the less work they'll get done.
 
2017-11-04 10:34:23 AM  
I'm trying to figure out a way to have 7 days off each week. The problem always comes down to my pesky need to also have money.

Anyone have any ideas?
 
2017-11-04 10:55:26 AM  

August11: If you don't need to take a break on the weekend, you didn't work hard enough during the week.


That's why the boss is bugging people on the weekend. Nothing he does during the week counts as work, so he has plenty of excess energy.
 
2017-11-04 11:11:16 AM  
As a freelancer, I have total control over my workload, hours of availability, and schedule. I take time off when I need to. Might be a weekend; might be a week. I will never go back to the corporate grind if I can help it.

/have two projects to finish this weekend
//I'll get to the third slashie next week
 
2017-11-04 11:11:23 AM  

doczoidberg: I'm trying to figure out a way to have 7 days off each week. The problem always comes down to my pesky need to also have money.

Anyone have any ideas?


Passive income and lowered expenses. If you can cut your expenses enough and can live comfortably off of $30k a year, you can get there with just a half million in the bank. Just dump your money into a mix of high yield stocks and bonds and live off the dividends. It will take some time to get there, unfortunately, especially if you have huge debt levels and high expenses. But it's not completely unrealistic.
 
2017-11-04 11:19:47 AM  

doczoidberg: I'm trying to figure out a way to have 7 days off each week. The problem always comes down to my pesky need to also have money.

Anyone have any ideas?


Ask for a redo on the genetic lottery
Buy More Money
Write your Congressman advocating for UBI
Marry into Rich
Whore yourself, especially if you like farking.
Become a dealer; this requires a *teensy* bit of work.

/nothing's perfect.
 
2017-11-04 11:22:58 AM  

doczoidberg: I'm trying to figure out a way to have 7 days off each week. The problem always comes down to my pesky need to also have money.

Anyone have any ideas?


Well, once you die you'll find your expenses trend towards zero quickly, so you always have that.
 
2017-11-04 11:24:39 AM  

kab: The work computah gets shut down around 6 pm on Friday, and thats that.

Even 5 days per week is excessive, frankly.  Humans aren't geared for spending the majority of their waking hours working.


Have you never been to a farm?  Especially one that doesn't have a lot of machinery?  Prior to the 20th century leisure time was a luxury not every weekend.
 
2017-11-04 11:25:40 AM  

Shaggy_C: doczoidberg: I'm trying to figure out a way to have 7 days off each week. The problem always comes down to my pesky need to also have money.

Anyone have any ideas?

Passive income and lowered expenses. If you can cut your expenses enough and can live comfortably off of $30k a year, you can get there with just a half million in the bank. Just dump your money into a mix of high yield stocks and bonds and live off the dividends. It will take some time to get there, unfortunately, especially if you have huge debt levels and high expenses. But it's not completely unrealistic.


Unless you have student loans to pay off.

Also, you may have unrealistically muddled thinking about investments. High yield bonds are known as junk bonds, and the interest payment may be high which sounds good, but by definition they are risky and in the long run some of them will go bankrupt, so the actual return of a junk bond fund will be LESS than the interest you receive. That means you can't spend it all - it's not "real". There's no free lunch.

Examples from bond funds: LQD is investment grade bonds, returns 3.16%. JNK is high yield, returns 5.64%. But in the last 10 years, JNK lost about 2.36% in value per year, (wildly fluctuating though) and this wasn't a fluke because it's inherent to the asset class where risky businesses fail to pay off their debt. The difference between 5.64% and 2.36% is 3.28%, or almost the same as investment grade. TANSTAAFL. Only a painfully naive person thinks "oh, I'm going to live off interest payments so I will just choose the investment with the highest one".

/disclaimer - not investment advice, not a registered investment advisor
 
2017-11-04 11:39:29 AM  

kab: The work computah gets shut down around 6 pm on Friday, and thats that.

Even 5 days per week is excessive, frankly.  Humans aren't geared for spending the majority of their waking hours working.


Nor should we be.

Quality of life is considered hippie new age bulls hit too often.

/Protestant work ethic is a lie.
//Work does not set you free.
///But the guys with all the money want you to think so
 
2017-11-04 11:40:06 AM  

Fissile: kab: The work computah gets shut down around 6 pm on Friday, and thats that.

Even 5 days per week is excessive, frankly.  Humans aren't geared for spending the majority of their waking hours working.

Certainly not.  In the US the 'Protestant work ethic' is more about social control than productivity, always was.


Oops.
Shake my tiny, tiny, lazy fist
 
2017-11-04 11:50:18 AM  
As I just spent four hours in the plant this morning, I'm getting a kick...
 
2017-11-04 11:51:40 AM  

TheMysticS: kab: The work computah gets shut down around 6 pm on Friday, and thats that.

Even 5 days per week is excessive, frankly.  Humans aren't geared for spending the majority of their waking hours working.

Nor should we be.

Quality of life is considered hippie new age bulls hit too often.

/Protestant work ethic is a lie.
//Work does not set you free.
///But the guys with all the money want you to think so


When the Protestants first settled America, they had a huge problem with people not putting up with their bullshiat and moving out to live with the Native Americans.
 
2017-11-04 11:52:26 AM  
I'm working right now, so I'm getting a kick out of...
Well, not right now.  Right now I'm on Fark.  But I'll do some work real soon now.

/making up for wasting time on Fark this week.
//hmmm
///hmmmmmmm
 
2017-11-04 11:53:28 AM  

Shaggy_C: doczoidberg: I'm trying to figure out a way to have 7 days off each week. The problem always comes down to my pesky need to also have money.

Anyone have any ideas?

Passive income and lowered expenses. If you can cut your expenses enough and can live comfortably off of $30k a year, you can get there with just a half million in the bank. Just dump your money into a mix of high yield stocks and bonds and live off the dividends. It will take some time to get there, unfortunately, especially if you have huge debt levels and high expenses. But it's not completely unrealistic.


Mortgage is the problem.  Or rent for others.

That's 17K a year for us.

/luckily no student loans
//bigly savings in a few years
///YMMV
 
2017-11-04 11:54:35 AM  

TheFoz: Shaggy_C: doczoidberg: I'm trying to figure out a way to have 7 days off each week. The problem always comes down to my pesky need to also have money.

Anyone have any ideas?

Passive income and lowered expenses. If you can cut your expenses enough and can live comfortably off of $30k a year, you can get there with just a half million in the bank. Just dump your money into a mix of high yield stocks and bonds and live off the dividends. It will take some time to get there, unfortunately, especially if you have huge debt levels and high expenses. But it's not completely unrealistic.

Mortgage is the problem.  Or rent for others.

That's 17K a year for us.

/luckily no student loans
//bigly savings in a few years
///YMMV


Sorry, I shouldn't say "problem".

It's nice to "own" a home, but that and food are our major expenses.
 
2017-11-04 11:56:05 AM  
There is no "work over the internet, no experience required" out there...that is NOT a 100% scam.

I spent a year looking some time back.

Can someone prove me wrong? I'd be happy to be shown I'm wrong.
 
2017-11-04 11:56:22 AM  
Meh.  I work my corporate job during weekdays and work my "money making hobby" weeknights and weekends.  And when I'm not doing those I'm spending time bringing my Legion post into the 20th century with digital signage and...gasp....a website.
 
2017-11-04 12:01:53 PM  

itcamefromschenectady: Shaggy_C: doczoidberg: I'm trying to figure out a way to have 7 days off each week. The problem always comes down to my pesky need to also have money.

Anyone have any ideas?

Passive income and lowered expenses. If you can cut your expenses enough and can live comfortably off of $30k a year, you can get there with just a half million in the bank. Just dump your money into a mix of high yield stocks and bonds and live off the dividends. It will take some time to get there, unfortunately, especially if you have huge debt levels and high expenses. But it's not completely unrealistic.

Unless you have student loans to pay off.

Also, you may have unrealistically muddled thinking about investments. High yield bonds are known as junk bonds, and the interest payment may be high which sounds good, but by definition they are risky and in the long run some of them will go bankrupt, so the actual return of a junk bond fund will be LESS than the interest you receive. That means you can't spend it all - it's not "real". There's no free lunch.

Examples from bond funds: LQD is investment grade bonds, returns 3.16%. JNK is high yield, returns 5.64%. But in the last 10 years, JNK lost about 2.36% in value per year, (wildly fluctuating though) and this wasn't a fluke because it's inherent to the asset class where risky businesses fail to pay off their debt. The difference between 5.64% and 2.36% is 3.28%, or almost the same as investment grade. TANSTAAFL. Only a painfully naive person thinks "oh, I'm going to live off interest payments so I will just choose the investment with the highest one".

/disclaimer - not investment advice, not a registered investment advisor


Notice I said a "mix" - you need to stay diversified, which means at least 30+ investments. In today's environment you probably won't be able to get a safe 6% yield, but that's not to say it is totally impossible. Hell, you could just throw all your money at RDS.B and get nearly 6% and not even touch junk bonds. Throw a couple REITs in there, some emerging market sovereign debt, etc, and you'll be in good shape. Better if you are retirement age and can supplement with SS, of course, and even better if you can stash away $1 million or more and have a much bigger nest egg to work from.

But you are right on the main point - yield chasing is for fools. You can get 15% in P2P lending, but I wouldn't recommend putting anything there you can't afford to lose!
 
2017-11-04 12:04:31 PM  

Recoil Therapy: The greatest job I ever had was one 2-3 year period where I was working 4/10s.  M-Th one week & then Tu-F the following week.  A four day weekend every other week...

"That's" how you do weekends


Being a contractor there are a few deadlines I have to meet. No one gives flying fark when I work to meet them. I've worked 40 hours in two days before to have five days of the week free, four days free really - as you spend the one day recovering form a burn that hard. When I was overloaded I'd regularly do 60 hours Monday - Wednesday, spend Thursday sleeping and becoming human again, then have the other three days free.

Nowadays I'm underemployed and I find things go more smoothly if I put in 5-7 hours each day over the course of four days.So Sunday-Wednesday are my work days, the rest are mine to do with as I please.
 
2017-11-04 12:07:37 PM  
The headline has me thinking it was an end of the world type thing. I
 
2017-11-04 12:36:37 PM  
We're getting good at selling our souls, that's all. I certainly don't think we're any happier for it.

I've been asked a number of times if I wanted to move into management. No, I tell them. What I don't tell them is that I've just about had it with corporate life, and I'm a non-managerial 40 hour a week type. The whole institution is just so much horseshiat, so fake.
 
2017-11-04 12:36:58 PM  
My scheduled 35 hour work week is laughing at that headline.

/Usually give 'em 40-42
 
2017-11-04 12:47:21 PM  

doomjesse: kab: The work computah gets shut down around 6 pm on Friday, and thats that.

Even 5 days per week is excessive, frankly.  Humans aren't geared for spending the majority of their waking hours working.

Have you never been to a farm?  Especially one that doesn't have a lot of machinery?  Prior to the 20th century leisure time was a luxury not every weekend.


Agricultural based economies work less than industrialized economies historically. So what are you on about?
 
2017-11-04 12:52:35 PM  

Shaggy_C: doczoidberg: I'm trying to figure out a way to have 7 days off each week. The problem always comes down to my pesky need to also have money.

Anyone have any ideas?

Passive income and lowered expenses. If you can cut your expenses enough and can live comfortably off of $30k a year, you can get there with just a half million in the bank. Just dump your money into a mix of high yield stocks and bonds and live off the dividends. It will take some time to get there, unfortunately, especially if you have huge debt levels and high expenses. But it's not completely unrealistic.


Sorry, you're not making $30k take-home on $500k invested. That's a post-tax return of 6%, and that's not remotely realistic on safe investments without touching the principle.
 
2017-11-04 01:08:32 PM  
Last weekend, eh? Antifa started that civil war? Well, my neighborhood's crosswalks are rainbow-striped.
I'll be fine.
 
2017-11-04 01:19:23 PM  
Best days to have off are Sunday, Monday, Tuesday.

Fridays are for hiding

Yahoos
 
2017-11-04 01:36:00 PM  

bingethinker: August11: If you don't need to take a break on the weekend, you didn't work hard enough during the week.

That's why the boss is bugging people on the weekend. Nothing he does during the week counts as work, so he has plenty of excess energy.


This is very true. Bosses are the worst offenders.
 
kab
2017-11-04 01:49:13 PM  

Fissile: kab: The work computah gets shut down around 6 pm on Friday, and thats that.

Even 5 days per week is excessive, frankly.  Humans aren't geared for spending the majority of their waking hours working.

Certainly not.  In the US the 'Protestant work ethic' is more about social control than productivity, always was.


Yep.   The inevitable clash of 'work ethic' with the progress of automation is going to be an interesting social shift to observe.  Hopefully I live long enough to see it.    Lots of folks are convinced that wage labor is mans only reason for existence, and they're going to be incredibly pissed off when that model runs out of steam.
 
2017-11-04 04:05:00 PM  

Recoil Therapy: The greatest job I ever had was one 2-3 year period where I was working 4/10s.  M-Th one week & then Tu-F the following week.  A four day weekend every other week...

"That's" how you do weekends


I had a schedule like that once, on a union job yet.  Unfortunately, mandatory overtime - filling in for people on vacation or otherwise out - usually wiped out at least one of those.
 
2017-11-04 04:28:57 PM  
Well, you know what they say...

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2017-11-04 04:52:07 PM  
Meh, I work retail so my typical weekend is Tuesday and Wednesday...which works out awesome for running errands, but kills what little social life I have.

/Time and a half on Sundays makes it worth it
 
2017-11-04 04:52:54 PM  
Our bodies literally release stress hormones when the email inbox pings. Too much time on our devices means we lose the ability to focus.

This is one of the potential problems of a smartphone. Turning off notifications prevents that pinging. Turning off mobile data prevents pinging and reduces battery drain. Putting your phone in airplane or do-not-disturb mode does both, and ensures that nobody will distract you with calls until you want to receive them.
 
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