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2017-11-03 05:36:06 AM  
The Spacey revelation is just horrible. If it was not so horrible, it would be funny: people who sexually harass others use their position to get something they shouldn't have. We have a president who used his position to get something he shouldn't have. Using position for advantage is embedded in our culture. We deserve this shiat.
 
2017-11-03 06:23:12 AM  
"Spacey will never work in the entertainment industry again.  There's no coming back from this", said Woody Allen and Mel Gibson on the sets of their current movies...
 
2017-11-03 07:53:48 AM  
https://www.kevinspaceyfoundation.org​/​artistsofchoice-ksf/2017-recipients/

It's up right now. And a quick search seems to show that only Fox News abs free bacon have this story. Way to check on those facts.
 
2017-11-03 08:33:40 AM  
Y'all, if you check Google News a big Bryan Singer story came out and then vanished from sites like the Forward and Yahoo News. Check the Wayback Machine. And be sure to watch Amy Berg's documentary, "An Open Secret."
 
2017-11-03 08:50:05 AM  
I thought pulling it was what got him into trouble to begin with.
 
2017-11-03 08:50:22 AM  

paradroid: Y'all, if you check Google News a big Bryan Singer story came out and then vanished from sites like the Forward and Yahoo News. Check the Wayback Machine. And be sure to watch Amy Berg's documentary, "An Open Secret."


Y'all, just tell us what the story is, ffs.
 
2017-11-03 09:03:13 AM  

Fano: a punk or gunsel


Gunsel is a new one on me.  Off to Google to learn something today!
 
2017-11-03 09:13:38 AM  

bigfatbuddhist: "Spacey will never work in the entertainment industry again.  There's no coming back from this", said Woody Allen and Mel Gibson on the sets of their current movies...


Remorse is admitting you farked up, walking away from it all and not coming back.

For people like Mel and Woody their major fault is that they either won't admit that what they did was creepy or wrong or they took some sensitivity training, made a statement and a donation and then thinking that everything is fine.

"Fine" doesn't happen without work.  Rob Lowe is a good example of what's involved in coming back, if you do at all.  After the underage girls incident he pretty much just dropped off the map.  He didn't work.  He didn't Produce anything, he didn't Direct anything, he didn't show up in tabloids or or at charity events or his neighbors lawn at 2 in the morning with a bottle of whiskey screaming about how the industry was out to get him.

After that he built his career again.  He took small roles outside of his usual scope.  He wasn't everywhere at once all over again.  And over time he kind of proved that the incident wasn't who he was and at every given moment expressed remorse for it.

Spacey is in his late 60's.  To pull a Rob Lowe successfully would take a decade.  There isn't that much left in the tank.
 
2017-11-03 09:22:59 AM  

CT Zeal: I thought twink referred to a man who looked very young but was of legal age.


You may be correct.  But that's not how I've heard it used.  I have only heard it in a derogatory way toward men of a certain flamboyant style.
 
2017-11-03 09:23:41 AM  

batlock666: Is catamite acceptable?


If it's anything like vegemite, then certainly not at the dinner table.
 
2017-11-03 09:25:23 AM  
Here's one of the Singer links that hasn't been taken down, in case his law firm would like to go threaten the publisher or post alibis or whatnot.

http://www.dailywire.com/news/23096/a​t​tention-circles-back-director-bryan-si​ngers-past-paul-bois
 
2017-11-03 09:35:19 AM  
Man, he really is a horrible boss.
 
2017-11-03 09:54:56 AM  
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Whats wrong with being sexy?
 
2017-11-03 09:55:45 AM  

The Continental Op: It isn't inherently derogatory, but the way I have heard some posters use it, it comes off that way


You should hear what it sounds like in a bar around 11 PM.  Them's fightin' words.
 
2017-11-03 09:59:57 AM  
Never would have guess the guy who insisted on a bobby Darin biopic wouldn't be weird af.
 
2017-11-03 10:08:24 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: CT Zeal: I thought twink referred to a man who looked very young but was of legal age.

You may be correct.  But that's not how I've heard it used.  I have only heard it in a derogatory way toward men of a certain flamboyant style.


You're wrong. Twink is just the gay version of Lolita. It's not a derogatory term at all... Just a bit squicky.
 
2017-11-03 10:09:28 AM  

Skarekrough: bigfatbuddhist: "Spacey will never work in the entertainment industry again.  There's no coming back from this", said Woody Allen and Mel Gibson on the sets of their current movies...

Remorse is admitting you farked up, walking away from it all and not coming back.

For people like Mel and Woody their major fault is that they either won't admit that what they did was creepy or wrong or they took some sensitivity training, made a statement and a donation and then thinking that everything is fine.

"Fine" doesn't happen without work.  Rob Lowe is a good example of what's involved in coming back, if you do at all.  After the underage girls incident he pretty much just dropped off the map.  He didn't work.  He didn't Produce anything, he didn't Direct anything, he didn't show up in tabloids or or at charity events or his neighbors lawn at 2 in the morning with a bottle of whiskey screaming about how the industry was out to get him.

After that he built his career again.  He took small roles outside of his usual scope.  He wasn't everywhere at once all over again.  And over time he kind of proved that the incident wasn't who he was and at every given moment expressed remorse for it.

Spacey is in his late 60's.  To pull a Rob Lowe successfully would take a decade.  There isn't that much left in the tank.


Mr. Lowe also had a slight advantage in that he had a plausible argument that he did not even know that the girls were underage (as they had to lie about their age to gain access to where he met them). Mr. Spacey lacks such an excuse.
 
2017-11-03 10:11:35 AM  

The Continental Op: A "twink" is simply a young gay man with a boyish face/features.  It isn't inherently derogatory, but the way I have heard some posters use it, it comes off that way.  Sort of like when someone refers to a Jewish person as a Jew, when it doesn't have anything to do with statement.  For example, "So, we're supposed to believe this Jew, just because he says it happened?"  It just doesn't feel right.


"Twink" is often used in a derogatory sense in that it is often used with the implication that the men who are referred to as "twinks" have no personality (at least, none that matters) and no real defining traits apart from their "twink" appearance.
 
2017-11-03 10:12:22 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: CT Zeal: I thought twink referred to a man who looked very young but was of legal age.

You may be correct.  But that's not how I've heard it used.  I have only heard it in a derogatory way toward men of a certain flamboyant style.


I've never really found that to be the case.  A flamboyant yound man can be a twink, but flamboyance isn't really a defining factor of one.  There are masculine twinks.
 
2017-11-03 10:22:54 AM  

Dimensio: The Continental Op: A "twink" is simply a young gay man with a boyish face/features.  It isn't inherently derogatory, but the way I have heard some posters use it, it comes off that way.  Sort of like when someone refers to a Jewish person as a Jew, when it doesn't have anything to do with statement.  For example, "So, we're supposed to believe this Jew, just because he says it happened?"  It just doesn't feel right.

"Twink" is often used in a derogatory sense in that it is often used with the implication that the men who are referred to as "twinks" have no personality (at least, none that matters) and no real defining traits apart from their "twink" appearance.


Maybe so.  One of my friends self-identified as a twink when he was younger, but I don't remember ever talking to him about it in detail.  I've never had occasion to use the term myself.  I left SF 7 years ago, after living there for 25 years, and have only ever heard it used on the Internet since then.  The meaning may have shifted, or maybe their were connotations I never understood.
 
2017-11-03 10:28:10 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: The Continental Op: It isn't inherently derogatory, but the way I have heard some posters use it, it comes off that way

You should hear what it sounds like in a bar around 11 PM.  Them's fightin' words.


Everything's fightin words at that time.

I honestly apologize, because I have only ever heard gay men using it as a descriptive term for a young clean cut person. In this sense like calling someone a bear being derogatory.

Come to think of it, the times I've heard twink as derogatory it wasn't gay but for MMO players that use equipment they wouldn't ordinarily have being passed down from higher level characters.
 
2017-11-03 10:32:26 AM  

Dimensio: The Continental Op: A "twink" is simply a young gay man with a boyish face/features.  It isn't inherently derogatory, but the way I have heard some posters use it, it comes off that way.  Sort of like when someone refers to a Jewish person as a Jew, when it doesn't have anything to do with statement.  For example, "So, we're supposed to believe this Jew, just because he says it happened?"  It just doesn't feel right.

"Twink" is often used in a derogatory sense in that it is often used with the implication that the men who are referred to as "twinks" have no personality (at least, none that matters) and no real defining traits apart from their "twink" appearance.


By that measure, "Vegan" "Christian" or "Biker" are all derogatory terms denoting there is nothing else to know about them.
 
2017-11-03 10:35:06 AM  

Skarekrough: bigfatbuddhist: "Spacey will never work in the entertainment industry again.  There's no coming back from this", said Woody Allen and Mel Gibson on the sets of their current movies...

Remorse is admitting you farked up, walking away from it all and not coming back.

For people like Mel and Woody their major fault is that they either won't admit that what they did was creepy or wrong or they took some sensitivity training, made a statement and a donation and then thinking that everything is fine.

"Fine" doesn't happen without work.  Rob Lowe is a good example of what's involved in coming back, if you do at all.  After the underage girls incident he pretty much just dropped off the map.  He didn't work.  He didn't Produce anything, he didn't Direct anything, he didn't show up in tabloids or or at charity events or his neighbors lawn at 2 in the morning with a bottle of whiskey screaming about how the industry was out to get him.

After that he built his career again.  He took small roles outside of his usual scope.  He wasn't everywhere at once all over again.  And over time he kind of proved that the incident wasn't who he was and at every given moment expressed remorse for it.

Spacey is in his late 60's.  To pull a Rob Lowe successfully would take a decade.  There isn't that much left in the tank.


Rob Lowe back headlining films two years later.
 
2017-11-03 10:38:14 AM  

Fano: Dimensio: The Continental Op: A "twink" is simply a young gay man with a boyish face/features.  It isn't inherently derogatory, but the way I have heard some posters use it, it comes off that way.  Sort of like when someone refers to a Jewish person as a Jew, when it doesn't have anything to do with statement.  For example, "So, we're supposed to believe this Jew, just because he says it happened?"  It just doesn't feel right.

"Twink" is often used in a derogatory sense in that it is often used with the implication that the men who are referred to as "twinks" have no personality (at least, none that matters) and no real defining traits apart from their "twink" appearance.

By that measure, "Vegan" "Christian" or "Biker" are all derogatory terms denoting there is nothing else to know about them.


Well, aren't they, and isn't it?

/or is that the other way 'round?
 
2017-11-03 10:39:54 AM  
How do you know Kevin Spacey is throwing a party?

There are a dozen Big Wheels in the driveway.
 
2017-11-03 10:47:13 AM  
"Don't care, I'm taking this one with me"
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2017-11-03 10:54:20 AM  

Walker: "Don't care, I'm taking this one with me"
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"I see dead careers."
 
2017-11-03 10:59:25 AM  

Fano: Marcus Aurelius: The Continental Op: It isn't inherently derogatory, but the way I have heard some posters use it, it comes off that way

You should hear what it sounds like in a bar around 11 PM.  Them's fightin' words.

Everything's fightin words at that time.

I honestly apologize, because I have only ever heard gay men using it as a descriptive term for a young clean cut person. In this sense like calling someone a bear being derogatory.

Come to think of it, the times I've heard twink as derogatory it wasn't gay but for MMO players that use equipment they wouldn't ordinarily have being passed down from higher level characters.


Right, its a D&D term and twink is short for twinkie which we all know has a golden exterior with a soft creamy filling on the inside.
 
2017-11-03 11:14:43 AM  

Clash City Farker: Fano: Marcus Aurelius: The Continental Op: It isn't inherently derogatory, but the way I have heard some posters use it, it comes off that way

You should hear what it sounds like in a bar around 11 PM.  Them's fightin' words.

Everything's fightin words at that time.

I honestly apologize, because I have only ever heard gay men using it as a descriptive term for a young clean cut person. In this sense like calling someone a bear being derogatory.

Come to think of it, the times I've heard twink as derogatory it wasn't gay but for MMO players that use equipment they wouldn't ordinarily have being passed down from higher level characters.

Right, its a D&D term and twink is short for twinkie which we all know has a golden exterior with a soft creamy filling on the inside.


I thought that was derogatory for East asians who identify as white?
 
2017-11-03 11:15:11 AM  

paradroid: Y'all, if you check Google News a big Bryan Singer story came out and then vanished from sites like the Forward and Yahoo News. Check the Wayback Machine. And be sure to watch Amy Berg's documentary, "An Open Secret."


You mean the media is covering for these Hollywood sickos?
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2017-11-03 11:23:35 AM  
Family Guy Calls Out Kevin Spacey Back In 2005
Youtube M4dHf6jnwaU
 
2017-11-03 11:31:20 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: CT Zeal: I thought twink referred to a man who looked very young but was of legal age.

You may be correct.  But that's not how I've heard it used.  I have only heard it in a derogatory way toward men of a certain flamboyant style.


No.  The only thing you're doing is making it an offensive term.  Stop.

/Twink days are sadly behind him.
 
2017-11-03 11:40:09 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: CT Zeal: I thought twink referred to a man who looked very young but was of legal age.

You may be correct.  But that's not how I've heard it used.  I have only heard it in a derogatory way toward men of a certain flamboyant style.


according to PornHub, CT Zeal is correct

/so I was told
 
2017-11-03 11:48:01 AM  
And here I thought Kevin Spacey was George Jetson's boss.
 
2017-11-03 12:19:16 PM  

FLMountainMan: Marcus Aurelius: CT Zeal: I thought twink referred to a man who looked very young but was of legal age.

You may be correct.  But that's not how I've heard it used.  I have only heard it in a derogatory way toward men of a certain flamboyant style.

No.  The only thing you're doing is making it an offensive term.  Stop.

/Twink days are sadly behind him.


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2017-11-03 12:22:00 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: I thought pulling it was what got him into trouble to begin with.


Donations came up a little behind.

/I'm only a little ashamed
 
2017-11-03 12:23:30 PM  
Twink, Twank, Bear, or Otter?
Youtube S_4PrI8gB-k
 
2017-11-03 12:31:40 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: CT Zeal: I thought twink referred to a man who looked very young but was of legal age.

You may be correct.  But that's not how I've heard it used.  I have only heard it in a derogatory way toward men of a certain flamboyant style.


A twink is a gay young man who is adorable and likes to party.

Source:  my gay brother who is desperately trying to hold on to his slipping-away twink status.
 
2017-11-03 12:41:02 PM  

Xythero: Marcus Aurelius: CT Zeal: I thought twink referred to a man who looked very young but was of legal age.

You may be correct.  But that's not how I've heard it used.  I have only heard it in a derogatory way toward men of a certain flamboyant style.

I've never really found that to be the case.  A flamboyant yound man can be a twink, but flamboyance isn't really a defining factor of one.  There are masculine twinks.


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2017-11-03 12:56:57 PM  
Have there been any other allegations against Spacey? The article alludes to multiple allegations but a cursory google only highlights the Karr accusation.
 
2017-11-03 01:03:04 PM  

Skarekrough: bigfatbuddhist: "Spacey will never work in the entertainment industry again.  There's no coming back from this", said Woody Allen and Mel Gibson on the sets of their current movies...

Remorse is admitting you farked up, walking away from it all and not coming back.

For people like Mel and Woody their major fault is that they either won't admit that what they did was creepy or wrong or they took some sensitivity training, made a statement and a donation and then thinking that everything is fine.

"Fine" doesn't happen without work.  Rob Lowe is a good example of what's involved in coming back, if you do at all.  After the underage girls incident he pretty much just dropped off the map.  He didn't work.  He didn't Produce anything, he didn't Direct anything, he didn't show up in tabloids or or at charity events or his neighbors lawn at 2 in the morning with a bottle of whiskey screaming about how the industry was out to get him.

After that he built his career again.  He took small roles outside of his usual scope.  He wasn't everywhere at once all over again.  And over time he kind of proved that the incident wasn't who he was and at every given moment expressed remorse for it.

Spacey is in his late 60's.  To pull a Rob Lowe successfully would take a decade.  There isn't that much left in the tank.


You're off by a decade; he's only 58.  The question is,  has Spacey burned too many bridges?  If studios think he's a liability, he's done.
 
2017-11-03 01:04:10 PM  

biscuitsngravy: Marcus Aurelius: CT Zeal: I thought twink referred to a man who looked very young but was of legal age.

You may be correct.  But that's not how I've heard it used.  I have only heard it in a derogatory way toward men of a certain flamboyant style.

A twink is a gay young man who is adorable and likes to party.

Source:  my gay brother who is desperately trying to hold on to his slipping-away twink status.


Gay guy here, and this is the correct definition. It's not necessarily a derogatory term.
 
2017-11-03 01:06:06 PM  
Frank Reynolds: You don't look like a gay guy.
Dennis Reynolds: That's because he's a bear.
Mac: What?
Dennis Reynolds: He's a bear. You see, some gay guys are twinks and other are bears. This gay guy's a bear. By the way, we are totally cool with that. To each his own.
Frank Reynolds: Wait, I'm a little confused here. What's a twink?
Dennis Reynolds: A twink is small and slender, like Mac.
Mac: Oh, no, I'm too muscular. I would be a bear.
Dennis Reynolds: Uh, don't think so, bro. Not hairy enough.
Frank Reynolds: Smooth. Now, I would be a bear.
Dennis Reynolds: No, no. See, I don't think you'd be a bear either. As a matter of fact, I don't know what you'd be. You're definitely not a twink.
Frank Reynolds: I'd be a top, that's for sure.
Mac: Can a twink be a top or is that reserved for bears?
Dennis Reynolds: I'm sure there's a great deal of switching back and forth but I think more often then not bears are tops, unless they happen to be power bottoms.
Frank Reynolds: What's a power bottom?
Mac: A power bottom is a bottom that is capable of receiving an enormous amount of power.
Dennis Reynolds: Actually Mac, you've got it backwards. You see, the power bottom is actually generating the power by doing most of the work.
Frank Reynolds: Does power have to do with size or strength of the bottom?
Mac: Now Dennis, I heard speed has something to do with it.
Dennis Reynolds: Speed has *everything* to do with it. You see, the speed of the bottom informs the top how much pressure he's supposed to apply. Speed's the name of the game.
 
2017-11-03 01:15:35 PM  
Tony Montana alleged that the star grabbed Montana's crotch in public

Don't say hello to his little friend?

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2017-11-03 01:20:01 PM  
I have never heard twink used as anything other than a descriptor of a certain type of gay male person in the same way that bear is used to describe another sort of gay person.
 
2017-11-03 01:30:57 PM  
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2017-11-03 01:50:36 PM  

CT Zeal: Fano: Marcus Aurelius: Fano: Is that the one where the twink's claims

"Twink"?

One more of those and I'm reporting you, Sparky.  Nothing personal.  But it's offensive.

I apologize. I thought that was the currently accepted term for what was formerly a punk or gunsel.

I thought twink referred to a man who looked very young but was of legal age.


I thought twink was a barely legal, super thin plaything for middle-aged men.
 
2017-11-03 01:52:13 PM  

Walker: "Don't care, I'm taking this one with me"
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Jeez that look on Spacey's face is creepy.
 
2017-11-03 01:56:23 PM  

rillettes: CT Zeal: Fano: Marcus Aurelius: Fano: Is that the one where the twink's claims

"Twink"?

One more of those and I'm reporting you, Sparky.  Nothing personal.  But it's offensive.

I apologize. I thought that was the currently accepted term for what was formerly a punk or gunsel.

I thought twink referred to a man who looked very young but was of legal age.

I thought twink was a barely legal, super thin plaything for middle-aged men.


How YOU doin'??

/wait...
 
2017-11-03 01:58:28 PM  

BorgiaGinz: The question is, has Spacey burned too many bridges? If studios think he's a liability, he's done.


With major studios? Probably.

I wouldn't be surprised to see him resurface in a few years doing various independent projects and perhaps even stage work somewhere. He always seemed to be the type to actually enjoy being busy.
 
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