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2017-11-02 11:05:45 PM  
I've been watching Bills vs Jets this evening. Ugh.
 
2017-11-02 11:34:14 PM  
The games just don't seem as interesting now. Every play seems to end in a penalty, the defense is afraid to touch the quarterback and with replay the games take forever. Also, Papa John's pizza sucks.
 
2017-11-03 12:04:26 AM  
 Sure, people are citing the protests when asked by researchers. It's a simpler answer compared to having to explain that your large market team sucks and the NFL seems openly antagonistic to fans.
 
2017-11-03 02:00:07 AM  

CruiserTwelve: Every play seems to end in a penalty, the defense is afraid to touch the quarterback


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2017-11-03 02:02:18 AM  
Long games with staggered start times kill my Sunday, cash grabs in London, too many lopsided games, the overexposure of the Cowboys, Goodell's obvious hatred of the players, moving the draft to Thursday night compete with playoffs, Thursday Night Football...

oh, and my 49ers are hated by its owner.
 
2017-11-03 02:09:29 AM  
Having the national anthem be disrespected by the players has been enough for me to stop watching.

Also, I hate commercials and Tony Romo.
 
2017-11-03 03:06:57 AM  
Who doesn't love watching the finest athletes in the world...stand around while Ed Hochuli calls another block in the back away from the play?
 
2017-11-03 03:13:41 AM  
The forced me to lose 2 of the 3 Sunday day games to the Rams and Chargers every week rather than the best games of the week.  Ain't no one wants to watch that shiat.
 
2017-11-03 03:18:53 AM  
Dilly! Dilly!
 
2017-11-03 03:27:02 AM  
I stopped watching years ago just because I had better things to do (like play with my kids), I only started watching again this year so I could say I was watching specifically because of the protests and give a big fat F-U to all the idiots who think kneeling is "disrespectful" to the flag...sorry dickweed your flag T-shirt and screaming at players during the anthem are the really disrespectful things.
 
2017-11-03 03:32:36 AM  
Annoying or horrifying?  You decide!
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2017-11-03 03:53:12 AM  
For me, NFL has gone way of the NBA. The good teams are really good, the bad teams are terrible. I'll flip over and watch a game when it's on, and IF it can keep my attn between all the commercial breaks I will watch it. And that is my stance unless it means something (games with playoff implications or better).

 It isn't the kneeling or the lack of the kapernick but rather the lack of stars that are fun to watch anymore. Gone are the days of touchdown celebrations and watching to see what TO or 86 is gonna do when they score this time! Instead of focusing on people to get excited about it's guess what god-dell did this week! or omg did you hear what he said in that sound byte? everyone get offended!
 
2017-11-03 03:54:47 AM  
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2017-11-03 05:19:56 AM  
Stopped in about 2010 because it just stopped being fun. They kept pushing how you had to have every game on have at least 5 fantasy teams and buy every NFL branded product. Then when the cte stuff starting coming to light , that drove me farther away.
 
2017-11-03 05:20:41 AM  
Hell the only reason I would watch now would be to support the players kneeling.
 
2017-11-03 05:40:45 AM  
And the Peyton Manning Nationwide commercials.
And the Verizon commercials. (Seriously, fark Thomas Middleditch.)
And that Geico commercial with the dumb unlikable people doing dumb unlikable things.
And the horrid national game intro songs (literally the only thing TNF has going for it).
And the Dear Leader's random witch hunts.

I'm still bemused by dilly dilly, but it won't be long until it joins this list. And yet I feel like I'm forgetting some.
 
2017-11-03 06:23:19 AM  
I think the rampant free agency thing killed my love of sports years ago. when my favorite players were traded to a hated rival like it was no big deal. it was like sports and my favorite athletes were giving me a giant middle finger but still expected me to watch. I am pretty pathetic but not that pathetic, I quit watching. most sports in general have sucked since ~2000
 
2017-11-03 07:39:51 AM  
Don't generally watch NFL - I will casually watch Saturday college games during the time period my alma mater (Virginia Tech) is playing.  Caught part of the 4:00 Steelers game a couple weeks ago on CBS.  Sat down a few minutes before halftime and the whole crew (JB, Cowher, three other guys I forget now) told me to "stay tuned for scores and highlights!"

Halftime consisted of:
- ~20 seconds of highlights from the game I was currently watching
- A mention of Jay Cutler getting injured
- A couple highlights from one other game
- 14 minutes of commercials

Fark the NFL.  I have better things to do with my life.
 
2017-11-03 07:50:46 AM  
I watch the Patriots games and when the Pats aren't playing I might have whatever game is on in the background, unless it's a real turd of a game. A couple weeks back I think I had the choice of Jets-Dolphins or Bears-Panthers (side note: trying to find old scores on the nfl.com site is farking painful), so one of the music channels got put on instead. The Pats are on their bye this weekend, so I'm curious to see what my options are (but not so curious that I'm going to look it up, which would be pretty easy I assume, but whatever).
 
2017-11-03 08:07:14 AM  
Less people are watching all TV sports.  Look at this chart of World Series Game 7 viewers:
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Note that the US has 120 million more people than it did in 1972 and yet 10 million less people are watching and this was roundly called the best series in years.  Without this offensive series and the Cubs pulling up last seasons ratings, I see no reason that the 2000-20015 trend won't continue.

Even NASCAR, our most patriotic sport, is enduring the lowest number of total viewers since 2000.  That sport has fallen off a cliff.

Bottom line:  less people are watching sports than they used to, and I'm not sure anyone knows why.  I personally watch less sports than I used to (dramatically less), and I'm not sure why either.  NFL commercials (DIDDLY DIDDLY) are as annoying as they were 10 years ago (SAAAAAVED BYYYYYY ZEEEEEROOOOO).  So I don't know if that's it.
 
2017-11-03 08:19:23 AM  

dickfreckle: Sure, people are citing the protests when asked by researchers. It's a simpler answer compared to having to explain that your large market team sucks and the NFL seems openly antagonistic to fans.


This.

My opinion on The Kneetakers is irrelevant.  I wasn't watching anyway.
 
2017-11-03 08:40:24 AM  
I think that I might be able to somehow, with superhuman willpower and effort on my part, get over other people not watching as much football.

I will try that right now.

Woo hoo! Achievment unlocked!
Mission accomplished!
I
 
2017-11-03 08:53:50 AM  
Yet erosion of viewership of the NFL is  less than erosion of viewers in other TV categories. I wonder why that's not the story.
 
2017-11-03 08:56:16 AM  
The NFL has slowed a decline that was more pronounced in 2016, and the erosion is actually less than it is for other forms of television programming

misleading headline is misleading
 
2017-11-03 09:08:06 AM  
The guy who owns Pizza Papa Johns creeps me out even more than the Burger King.
 
2017-11-03 09:10:39 AM  
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2017-11-03 09:15:26 AM  
Pasting my post from a previous comment thread:

The whole thing of taking a knee and its backlash is reminding me of the last few years when Marvel Comics tried a more progressive angle with their comics and started working to include pro-Feminist/Diversity messages and the backlash that received. Even if you agree with them or not they can cause you to take a step back and ask a question entertainment vendors never want you to ask:

"Wait a minute, why am I spending my time and money on this, again?"

Once a person asks that question: even subconsciously, they will start assessing the time and/or money you spend on that venue of entertainment and what it actually offers you in return. And the results of that little audit are usually never in favor of the venue of entertainment.


And all we need to see are all the reasons posted so far in this thread.
 
2017-11-03 09:19:56 AM  
I watch Steelers when I can and really only follow stats of players on my fantasy team. I forgot to cover a bye week on one of my guys last week so I guess I'm not following too closely.... and fark the players for taking a knee during our national anthem. I know people have died fighting to give them that right, but still, fark them!

/need more coffee
 
2017-11-03 09:20:06 AM  

runwiz: The guy who owns Pizza Papa Johns creeps me out even more than the Burger King.


His hair always reminds me of this quote from Friday:  Smokey: Why don't you tell your daddy to comb his damn hair, look like some spiders is having a meetin' on his head.

I'm pretty sure it's hair plugs to go along with the facelifts and the botox.  Seriously, if you don't know what botox looks like, look at Papa John.  He uses a lot of it.
 
2017-11-03 09:38:22 AM  

upndn: I watch Steelers when I can and really only follow stats of players on my fantasy team. I forgot to cover a bye week on one of my guys last week so I guess I'm not following too closely.... and fark the players for taking a knee during our national anthem. I know people have died fighting to give them that right, but still, fark them!

/need more coffee


Counterpoint: fark you.
 
2017-11-03 09:54:37 AM  
I did not watch the Thursday night football game because:
1. First and foremost, my team wasn't playing.  I don't give a rat's ass about the other 31 teams (rare exceptions for games near the end of the season that could effect my team's playoff hopes).
2. My hockey team was plying at the same time.

I'm not an NFL fan.  I'm not a College Football fan.  I'm not an NHL fan. etc...  I'm a fan of my team in each of those leagues and those are the games I will watch.  The other 150,000 games hold little to no interest for me.  There's 800 other channels on TV, plus thousands of streaming shows I could be watching instead, not to mention non-tv related things to do.  The kneeling, the flags, the commercials... all irrelevant to me and just sound like excuses people are making to justify that they just have better things to do.

/you don't need to justify turning the channel.  It's your choice.  Own it.
 
2017-11-03 10:11:52 AM  

CruiserTwelve: Also, Papa John's pizza sucks.


And PJ has a most punchable face.
 
2017-11-03 10:44:55 AM  

dickfreckle: Sure, people are citing the protests when asked by researchers. It's a simpler answer compared to having to explain that your large market team sucks and the NFL seems openly antagonistic to fans.


There was an absolutely amazing video from The Onion when the referee strike happened that I can't find for the life of me. There was a quote from an imaginary NFL exec, something like "Fans are the worst. If they want football so bad, we'll give them the worst football possible and shove it down their throats." I remember thinking that summed up the NFL's real thoughts on fans pretty well.
 
2017-11-03 10:46:32 AM  

Rapmaster2000: Bottom line:  less people are watching sports than they used to, and I'm not sure anyone knows why.


There are 200 channels and streaming media now. Why tune into a stinker of a game when you can watch almost anything you want on demand or flip thru hundreds of channels.
 
2017-11-03 10:54:06 AM  

Rapmaster2000: Less people are watching all TV sports. Look at this chart of World Series Game 7 viewers:


Considering that not every WS goes to 7 games, and how I know for a damn fact the 2005 WS was over in 4, I question that chart's methodology.
 
2017-11-03 10:54:46 AM  
Touchdown --> commercial --> challenge review --> commercial --> extra point --> commercial --> kick off --> commercial --> injury on kick off --> commercial --> next play from scrimmage.

That series of events can take 15 minutes and suck 100% of the excitement out of the game.
 
2017-11-03 11:06:59 AM  

Muta: Touchdown --> commercial --> challenge review --> commercial --> extra point --> commercial --> kick off --> commercial --> injury on kick off --> commercial --> next play from scrimmage.

That series of events can take 15 minutes and suck 100% of the excitement out of the game.


They have to do something about kick offs. Most are <sad trombone> touchbacks, and the few times when there is an exciting long return it gets called back because of a penalty <sad trombone>.
 
2017-11-03 11:28:35 AM  
I get frustrated when all of these articles point out the protests as a reason for the decline. But none of the ever compare weeks one and two, before anyone cared about them to later weeks.

This article says that the ratings decline for the year to date was 5%.

The articles I found put the decline for the first two weeks at 9%.

That says that the decline has decreased since the protests, which indicates that the protests aren't driving the decline. It is far from conclusive, but it is the best data I have been able to locate.
 
2017-11-03 11:29:42 AM  

NEDM: Rapmaster2000: Less people are watching all TV sports. Look at this chart of World Series Game 7 viewers:

Considering that not every WS goes to 7 games, and how I know for a damn fact the 2005 WS was over in 4, I question that chart's methodology.


It doesn't have a datapoint for every year. The data points are where the angles are.
 
2017-11-03 11:32:24 AM  
When you refer to "annoying pizza commercials", do you mean annoying commercials for pizza,
or commercials for annoying pizza? (Strange that pizzas would display human emotion.)
 
2017-11-03 11:33:44 AM  

NEDM: Rapmaster2000: Less people are watching all TV sports. Look at this chart of World Series Game 7 viewers:

Considering that not every WS goes to 7 games, and how I know for a damn fact the 2005 WS was over in 4, I question that chart's methodology.


The chart simply plotted the viewership each year there was a game 7 then connected the points. There was a game 7 in 2002 with presumably 31M viewers and another in 2011 and 2014. The one in 2014 had ~24M viewers (according to the chart). Draw a line between the point in 2002 and 2014 and you get the line you see. It isn't saying there was a game 7 ever year, but it does show an overall trend. Seems legit to me. The 2011 point is directly on that line. According to Wikipedia it was 25M, which fits with the graph.
 
2017-11-03 11:34:18 AM  

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: Yet erosion of viewership of the NFL is  less than erosion of viewers in other TV categories. I wonder why that's not the story.


Because it is expected. Compared to other television broadcasts thee is more incentive to watch it live and fewer easy and cheap options to watch it other than on TV, so the decline should be smaller. In fact live sports is a major thing that keeps cable subscriptions being sold. How the NFL's decline compares to other sports would be more interesting.
 
2017-11-03 12:04:27 PM  
I'll watch on DVR.  Fast forwarding constantly through the incessant game breaks.

NFL on regular TV?  No farking way.
 
2017-11-03 12:09:48 PM  

dywed88: Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: Yet erosion of viewership of the NFL is  less than erosion of viewers in other TV categories. I wonder why that's not the story.

Because it is expected. Compared to other television broadcasts thee is more incentive to watch it live and fewer easy and cheap options to watch it other than on TV, so the decline should be smaller. In fact live sports is a major thing that keeps cable subscriptions being sold. How the NFL's decline compares to other sports would be more interesting.


The TV companies were counting on sports being the one thing keeping people from cutting the cord, but it's not working. I blame NBC and the tape delayed Olympics, they raised an entire generation of people to think that sports were just the back stories for reality TV stars.
/I might watch one or two episodes of the Marshawn Lynch show
 
2017-11-03 12:14:27 PM  

Trocadero: dywed88: Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: Yet erosion of viewership of the NFL is  less than erosion of viewers in other TV categories. I wonder why that's not the story.

Because it is expected. Compared to other television broadcasts thee is more incentive to watch it live and fewer easy and cheap options to watch it other than on TV, so the decline should be smaller. In fact live sports is a major thing that keeps cable subscriptions being sold. How the NFL's decline compares to other sports would be more interesting.

The TV companies were counting on sports being the one thing keeping people from cutting the cord, but it's not working. I blame NBC and the tape delayed Olympics, they raised an entire generation of people to think that sports were just the back stories for reality TV stars.
/I might watch one or two episodes of the Marshawn Lynch show


I would more blame two trends:

1) Alternative options are improving. They are lagging behind TV shows but they are getting better.
2) Younger generations are less committed to sports. I think you will find that the decrease in audience is reduced as it nears the playoffs and people are more committed to it. Similarly o think you will see fewer NFL fans watch 4 or 5 games per week and more team fans primarily watching their teams games.
 
2017-11-03 12:46:25 PM  

Trocadero: The TV companies were counting on sports being the one thing keeping people from cutting the cord, but it's not working. I blame NBC and the tape delayed Olympics, they raised an entire generation of people to think that sports were just the back stories for reality TV stars.


Yes, it is the fault of the Olympics....

I blame the xbox.
 
2017-11-03 01:11:43 PM  
I stopped watching because I just got sick of wasting an entire Sunday.
 
2017-11-03 02:35:47 PM  

Big Beef Burrito: I stopped watching because I just got sick of wasting an entire Sunday.


Also you can fake that you did by spending about ten minutes looking up the highlight reel and stats after the game runs. And there's a big issue: a four hour broadcast should produce more than ten minutes of interesting content.
 
2017-11-03 02:50:02 PM  

Tanqueray: [i.imgflip.com image 850x477]



Confession time:

I'm stealing that and posting it on Facebook this Sunday.
 
2017-11-03 03:17:51 PM  

Big Beef Burrito: I stopped watching because I just got sick of wasting an entire Sunday.


Same.

And since I stopped watching I've gotten a lot more into MLB & NHL because with those sports I can just watch the games at my own leisure on weeknights when I want to, and not feel like I have to commit an entire day to the thing.  I'd probably be more likely to watch the NFL again if they decided to start playing all the games on Thursday nights or something like that.
 
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