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(Gizmodo)   The many lives of 'Shada', the greatest Doctor Who story never told   ( io9.gizmodo.com) divider line
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2017-10-20 10:31:33 AM  
Shada, when the walls fell?
 
2017-10-20 11:28:53 AM  
My son and I are very much looking forward to this.
 
2017-10-20 11:37:12 AM  
So it boils down to Baker finally feeling up to rejoining the Who world and recording again. That dude has seen some shiat; he's not entirely blameless in what happened but I can understand why he didn't want to revisit the property for so long. Honestly I'm still wondering how they got him to do the narration for the Shada video release in the early 90s; he was at peak "fark doctor who" at the time.
 
2017-10-20 11:56:47 AM  
It lives on as Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency, the book, not the Netflix cinematic abortion.
 
2017-10-20 12:02:36 PM  
Brian Wilson -- completed and released SMiLE in 2004
Chicago -- released Stone of Sisyphus as Chicago XXXII in 2008.
Jerry Lewis -- The Day the Clown Cried -- The Library of Congress intends to screen it after June 2024.
Douglas Adams -- Shada -- Being filled-in by the Beeb right now.

This new Shada treatment should become the canonical version (as if there's such a thing as canon in a show about an ostensibly immortal time traveling alien who subsists on a steady diet of jelly babies and jammie dodgers and has a codependent relationship with a police box and a schoolteacher who looks like Jenna Coleman). The BBC has gone back to the original Adams screenplay to animate the missing shots. This approach worked in the past with partial recreations (like The Tenth Planet) and even a complete reconstruction using only off-air soundtracks (The Power of the Daleks). With new audio laid by both Tom Baker and  Lalla Ward, this will be as close as we can get to Adams' original vision (at least for that week-- we all know how he liked to tweak HHGTTG between the audios and novels).
 
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2017-10-20 12:36:03 PM  
The Big Finish audio version with the Eighth Doctor subbing in was done really well too.
 
2017-10-20 12:53:14 PM  
never told?  what's that dvd that i have then?
 
2017-10-20 12:54:16 PM  
Great article, but arguably "Shada" is by far the most told and re-told Doctor Who story at this stage.
 
2017-10-20 12:54:16 PM  
I had  the VHS of The Shada with Baker narrating the bits that were never finished. I enjoyed spotting the "Hey! Adams reused parts of this in the first Dirk Gently book!" and, "This is the clip of the Doctor and Romana they used in The Five Doctors!"
 
2017-10-20 12:56:46 PM  

KingBiefWhistle: So it boils down to Baker finally feeling up to rejoining the Who world and recording again. That dude has seen some shiat; he's not entirely blameless in what happened but I can understand why he didn't want to revisit the property for so long. Honestly I'm still wondering how they got him to do the narration for the Shada video release in the early 90s; he was at peak "fark doctor who" at the time.


What happened? Wiki wasn't forthcoming.
 
2017-10-20 01:07:46 PM  
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Reminds me too much of Archer.

"Romana! ROMANA! ROOOMAAANNNAAAA!!!"

"Jesus Christ, Doctor, what??"

"....Danger Zone!"
 
2017-10-20 01:23:45 PM  
Is this the one that Mua'Dib, Darth Vader, and Dark Helmut team up against Captain Kirk, Captain Nemo, Captain Ahab, Captain Jack Sparrow, and Captain Morgan?
 
2017-10-20 01:28:10 PM  
the quality of animation seems to go down with every one they do
 
2017-10-20 02:08:07 PM  

Tillmaster: KingBiefWhistle: So it boils down to Baker finally feeling up to rejoining the Who world and recording again. That dude has seen some shiat; he's not entirely blameless in what happened but I can understand why he didn't want to revisit the property for so long. Honestly I'm still wondering how they got him to do the narration for the Shada video release in the early 90s; he was at peak "fark doctor who" at the time.

What happened? Wiki wasn't forthcoming.


The tl;dr of it is that Doctor Who was probably the first wholly positive life experience he had as an adult and he utterly threw himself into the role. He left due to a huge falling out with the new management and (as he tells it) spent the next year or two living in a pub drinking all day instead of trying to move on and sorting his shiat out. The fact that Ward is willing to work with him again probably says a lot on his part for making amends.
 
2017-10-20 02:25:27 PM  

KingBiefWhistle: Tillmaster: KingBiefWhistle: So it boils down to Baker finally feeling up to rejoining the Who world and recording again. That dude has seen some shiat; he's not entirely blameless in what happened but I can understand why he didn't want to revisit the property for so long. Honestly I'm still wondering how they got him to do the narration for the Shada video release in the early 90s; he was at peak "fark doctor who" at the time.

What happened? Wiki wasn't forthcoming.

The tl;dr of it is that Doctor Who was probably the first wholly positive life experience he had as an adult and he utterly threw himself into the role. He left due to a huge falling out with the new management and (as he tells it) spent the next year or two living in a pub drinking all day instead of trying to move on and sorting his shiat out. The fact that Ward is willing to work with him again probably says a lot on his part for making amends.


They were married, then got divorced. Somewhere in there, ol' farkface and legend to himself Richard Dawkins himself snagged 'er.
 
2017-10-20 03:04:37 PM  
How many lame "one lump or two" jokes did they fit in this time?

I'm not a huge fan of the Tom Baker era Doctor Who but even with lowered expectations I did not like Shada, in spite of being a fan of Douglas Adams' work. I much prefer The Pirate Planet if you're looking for an entertaining Doctor Who in Adams style. Mr Fibuli is such an odd character that it cracks me up every time he's on screen, I think it's because he reminds me of a British 60's version of the Question Mark Guy. Though be warned, the Mentiad scenes in the first episode are more than a bit cheesy and weird. Other than that it's a great, quirky, entertaining episode.

///All guards on alert! Someone is using a counter-jamming frequency projector! Find it and destroy it immediately!
//Captain, do you suppose any of the guards know what a counter-jamming frequency projector looks like?
/Destroy everything!
 
2017-10-20 03:18:07 PM  

thespindrifter: They were married, then got divorced. Somewhere in there, ol' farkface and legend to himself Richard Dawkins himself snagged 'er.


You can thank (condemn/hate) Douglas Adams for that. He introduced them to each other. They apparently got sick of each other's shiat too, considering they separated last year.
 
2017-10-20 03:26:53 PM  
When I was a young teen, Lalla Ward didn't do anything for me.

And now, as an adult, I realize that young-teen-me was really stupid.
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2017-10-20 03:40:45 PM  

LurkerSupreme: How many lame "one lump or two" jokes did they fit in this time?

I'm not a huge fan of the Tom Baker era Doctor Who but even with lowered expectations I did not like Shada, in spite of being a fan of Douglas Adams' work.


I'm not surprised that the season that brought us "Creature From the Pit", "Nightmare of Eden" and "The Horns of Nimon" might have a subpar finale.  Rewatching the Hinchcliffe era and it's easy to see why Tom Baker became such a force on the show, and hitting the Graham Williams era feels like where the wheels started to come off.  Douglas Adams was an imaginative writer, but wasn't a very good script editor.
 
2017-10-20 04:16:22 PM  

LurkerSupreme: How many lame "one lump or two" jokes did they fit in this time?


one lump for ladies
 
2017-10-20 04:41:55 PM  

skyotter: When I was a young teen, Lalla Ward didn't do anything for me.

And now, as an adult, I realize that young-teen-me was really stupid.
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I had the opposite issue. I thought Blond Romanadavoratrelundar II was gorgeous, but had a hard time with (the personality) of Romana I, MAry Tamm is my thing.

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2017-10-20 04:43:34 PM  
Arrgh! Posted w/ bad edit. Didn't care for Mary Tamm back in the day, but now I think she's hot. I think it was just the part she was playing, too maternal for my liking. Lala Ward was way more chill and fun at the time.
 
2017-10-21 01:11:23 PM  

listernine: Is this the one that Mua'Dib, Darth Vader, and Dark Helmut team up against Captain Kirk, Captain Nemo, Captain Ahab, Captain Jack Sparrow, and Captain Morgan?


No, it's the other one.  You know, THAT one.
 
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