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2017-10-18 01:28:45 AM  
Pick up from daycare at 5, dose of Benadryl at 5:15, to bed by 5:25. Then your night is free. Why is this hard?
 
2017-10-18 02:52:52 AM  
FTA: "Firefly did some research into how much time parents spend every day putting kids to bed (25 minutes), which adds up to 140 hours a week. "


Uh.... year, you mean year you goofy eco blogger.
 
2017-10-18 02:58:23 AM  
"Go to bed!"
"I aaaaaaammmmmm!"

About 5 seconds in total.

/Not -bic pentameter, though
 
2017-10-18 03:40:25 AM  
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2017-10-18 04:25:50 AM  
The nighttime ritual to get the wife to sleep takes a full hour.
 
2017-10-18 06:10:27 AM  

Sgygus: The nighttime ritual to get the wife to sleep takes a full hour.


Lucky gal.
 
2017-10-18 06:13:03 AM  
My daughter is pretty good... Every once in awhile, though...

3 minutes after laying down, she'll come in "Daddy, I had a bad dream...". And I'm not kidding about the 3 minutes thing. It's actually quite funny, and it's only once every 6 or 9 months. She tries, fails, and tries to see if we've forgotten by the next time.
 
2017-10-18 06:13:38 AM  

Sgygus: The nighttime ritual to get the wife to sleep takes a full hour.


2 minutes.

If she deserves it.
 
2017-10-18 06:19:00 AM  
Those giant novelty size wine glasses aren't just for mothers watching Maury I'll have you know.
 
2017-10-18 06:20:16 AM  
A friend of mine has a 3 year old that will. not. go. to. bed.

His wife literally spends over an hour with the kid at night - reading a story, singing songs, sitting with him. She'll come out of his room looking exhausted and say "I think he's down for the night." and then he'll come out screaming.

I do not have children so although I would like to offer advice (I have successfully dealt with difficult bedtimes for my nieces and nephews) I doubt it would be welcome - especially at the point of stress.  But I do not understand how that kid is still alive.
 
2017-10-18 06:37:38 AM  

PoweredByIrony: A friend of mine has a 3 year old that will. not. go. to. bed.

His wife literally spends over an hour with the kid at night - reading a story, singing songs, sitting with him. She'll come out of his room looking exhausted and say "I think he's down for the night." and then he'll come out screaming.

I do not have children so although I would like to offer advice (I have successfully dealt with difficult bedtimes for my nieces and nephews) I doubt it would be welcome - especially at the point of stress.  But I do not understand how that kid is still alive.


I have a 6-year-old and an 11-month-old.

For my older child, age 3 was literally and by far THE WORST in terms of sleep.  Fighting bedtime, up at night screaming, etc.

I don't have any solution to offer since nothing really solved the problem.  He just grew out of it by age 4.  Nowadays he sleeps like a rock all night, and thank god for that.
 
2017-10-18 07:05:43 AM  
All it took was a simple warning that the monster under his bed would eat his feet if they touched the ground - and a bluetooth speaker linked to a soundboard on my iPhone that plays clips from old Godzilla movies.
 
2017-10-18 07:29:33 AM  

Mikey1969: My daughter is pretty good... Every once in awhile, though...

3 minutes after laying down, she'll come in "Daddy, I had a bad dream...". And I'm not kidding about the 3 minutes thing. It's actually quite funny, and it's only once every 6 or 9 months. She tries, fails, and tries to see if we've forgotten by the next time.


My son is like that.
Him: 'i can't sleep, had a bad dream'
Me: ' you can't have a bad dream, you're not sleeping yet'
 
2017-10-18 07:39:00 AM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: All it took was a simple warning that the monster under his bed would eat his feet if they touched the ground - and a bluetooth speaker linked to a soundboard on my iPhone that plays clips from old Godzilla movies.


I'm stealing that.

/I might need it here before too much longer.
 
2017-10-18 07:54:19 AM  
My daughter has thankfully finally grown out of the phase she was in.  From about ages 2 to 4 she would just be crying most of the night due to nightmares.  You can't reason with children when they are in that state, she would just look through you like you weren't there when you tried to calm her down.  You basically had to wake her up to get her to calm down.  She would also refuse to go to bed and become a little hell child due to being tired, and many nights were just "shut the door and let her scream herself to sleep" which would take about 20 mins.

She is 5 now and sleeps great now.  She does get up about an hour before everybody else though.

My son on the other hand slept 6 hours straight his first night home from the hospital, and sleeps like a log.
 
2017-10-18 07:55:01 AM  
25 mins seems about right for me to get both mine down in total. You just need a firm routine. I've two daughters, neither really dally when told to get ready for bed. They know that if they spend 10 minutes arguing or delaying it's their story time that's getting eaten up.

As the article states, it's not time wasted, it's time with the child.
 
2017-10-18 08:09:53 AM  
Drugs, people. Drugs.
 
2017-10-18 08:53:34 AM  
I start to reconsider my stance on spanking every night around 8:30.
 
2017-10-18 09:20:26 AM  
I read this to my kids at bedtime..
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2017-10-18 09:28:21 AM  
I usually spend that time reading to them my youngest (about 20 minutes).  It helps calm him down and get ready for bed and hopefully instills a lifelong love of reading.

My oldest gets to read his kindle for 20 minutes (The back-lit paperwhite).
 
2017-10-18 09:37:03 AM  
Is that 25 minutes after bath, dressed for bed, and teeth brushed?  That aint bad but I cannot wait for my younger two to get to where my older is.  Go to bed, "OK"
 
2017-10-18 09:42:44 AM  
I read with my daughter after doing homework every night (2nd grade, she's 7) and then 9pm she can take her kindle in bed with her, usually to watch Minecraft videos on YouTube, 930-945 kindle is off, if she's reading a book, I'll usually let her slide until 10ish, but she rarely makes it past 1015.

I think it's easier because her "bedtime" doesn't necessarily mean "lights out, go to sleep" but rather "it's time to wind down, get snuggled in and ready for bed," so she doesn't argue or pitch a fit.
 
2017-10-18 10:14:12 AM  

Tchernobog: I read with my daughter after doing homework every night (2nd grade, she's 7) and then 9pm she can take her kindle in bed with her, usually to watch Minecraft videos on YouTube, 930-945 kindle is off, if she's reading a book, I'll usually let her slide until 10ish, but she rarely makes it past 1015.

I think it's easier because her "bedtime" doesn't necessarily mean "lights out, go to sleep" but rather "it's time to wind down, get snuggled in and ready for bed," so she doesn't argue or pitch a fit.


My children are supposed to be in bed at 8:00 on a school night (unless they are being punished or just getting on my nerves, then it is 7:00-7:30).  Now, that doesn't work all the time of course (my son is in Pewee football, and his practice isn't over until 7:30)  but that is the target line we strive to make.  That is "lights out" at 8:00.

Sometimes I let them have a "read and relax" time until 8:30, but that is no electronics.  My daughter looks at magazines/picture books (she is only in kindergarten, so she can't really read that well on her own yet) and my son (2nd grade) reads my old Calvin and Hobbes collections (*wipes a tear away*).

During the summer and weekends (non school nights)  they are allowed to watch some movies/tv shows on their Ipad's (a gift from their aunt) and stay up until about 10:00.  But that is only if they did all their chores for the day and their rooms are clean.
 
2017-10-18 10:14:29 AM  
he zeus breeders are snowflakes, can't handle less than half an hour a day maybe you are not competent to have kids
 
2017-10-18 10:28:44 AM  

albatros183: he zeus breeders are snowflakes, can't handle less than half an hour a day maybe you are not competent to have kids


Obvious troll is obvious.

Of course, that half hour a day is added onto:

Hour in the morning for making them breakfast and getting them ready for school
15-30 mins after they get off the bus to help with homework and sign their papers
Various times for football practice/tae-kwon-do/guitar lessons/dance/softball (depending on what time of the year it is) Usually 2 hours every couple of days.  And gone are the days of "Drop off your kids at practice and come back in two hours",  that seems to be generally frowned upon anymore, at least for children as young as mine.
Various struggles/arguments throughout the day:
Eat your food
Clean your room
Feed/water your animals
Stop fighting each other

Not to mention all the extra laundry that needs to be done (my GOD nobody told me I would be doing laundry 24/7, and children's clothes are a pain to wash and fold)

But yea...just a half hour a day.....

I'm not saying it's fun, but I honestly wouldn't want to go back to being childless (though sometimes I do fantasize about it), the good outweighs the "GET THAT OUT OF YOUR MOUTH!"
 
2017-10-18 10:31:08 AM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: All it took was a simple warning that the monster under his bed would eat his feet if they touched the ground - and a bluetooth speaker linked to a soundboard on my iPhone that plays clips from old Godzilla movies.


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2017-10-18 10:31:09 AM  
If taking care of the kids you make drives you to take drugs you never should have had kids.
 
2017-10-18 10:33:50 AM  

Burr: Tchernobog: I read with my daughter after doing homework every night (2nd grade, she's 7) and then 9pm she can take her kindle in bed with her, usually to watch Minecraft videos on YouTube, 930-945 kindle is off, if she's reading a book, I'll usually let her slide until 10ish, but she rarely makes it past 1015.

I think it's easier because her "bedtime" doesn't necessarily mean "lights out, go to sleep" but rather "it's time to wind down, get snuggled in and ready for bed," so she doesn't argue or pitch a fit.

My children are supposed to be in bed at 8:00 on a school night (unless they are being punished or just getting on my nerves, then it is 7:00-7:30).  Now, that doesn't work all the time of course (my son is in Pewee football, and his practice isn't over until 7:30)  but that is the target line we strive to make.  That is "lights out" at 8:00.


Crikey most nights I've not started cooking dinner until 20:00! We aim to get the kids in bed by 21:00 - 21:30. Yeah, I know this appears to go against my previous post of 'you need a routine' - we have a routine, just the times aren't set in stone.
 
2017-10-18 10:41:16 AM  

Swiss Colony: Crikey most nights I've not started cooking dinner until 20:00! We aim to get the kids in bed by 21:00 - 21:30. Yeah, I know this appears to go against my previous post of 'you need a routine' - we have a routine, just the times aren't set in stone.


You sound like you are on a Spanish timeframe (where they don't eat dinner until 9:00).

Yeah, some nights are like that, especially extra-curricular nights.  But, if we are home and not doing anything than bed is at 8:00.  I would rather them be in bed early than dragging their ass in the morning before school.  My son is especially bad at that.  If he goes to be anytime after 9:00 he is terrible in the morning.

My daughter however seems to survive on the pain and suffering of others (she is a ginger though, so that is pretty standard) and is usually up an hour before anybody else (including the wife and I) and can survive on little to no sleep it seems.  Luckily, they are getting to the point where they can feed (yogurt, cereal, toast) and dress themselves.
 
2017-10-18 11:08:25 AM  

Doc Daneeka: PoweredByIrony: A friend of mine has a 3 year old that will. not. go. to. bed.

His wife literally spends over an hour with the kid at night - reading a story, singing songs, sitting with him. She'll come out of his room looking exhausted and say "I think he's down for the night." and then he'll come out screaming.

I do not have children so although I would like to offer advice (I have successfully dealt with difficult bedtimes for my nieces and nephews) I doubt it would be welcome - especially at the point of stress.  But I do not understand how that kid is still alive.

I have a 6-year-old and an 11-month-old.

For my older child, age 3 was literally and by far THE WORST in terms of sleep.  Fighting bedtime, up at night screaming, etc.

I don't have any solution to offer since nothing really solved the problem. He just grew out of it by age 4.  Nowadays he sleeps like a rock all night, and thank god for that.


7 month old and 2.5 year old here, and this is a necessary truth of parenting that sometimes gets overlooked.

Some things are just a stalling game until the kid decides they don't want to fight about whatever it is anymore, and it suddenly gets better.

That doesn't mean you shouldn't keep trying to fix it though...

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My 2.5 year old was a "wake up every 2 hours" kind of kid until around when he was 2, when we finally got him to an ENT who finally had him do a sleep study that confirmed he has some weird non-apnea breathing stuff (I have apnea, it sucks) that wakes him up a lot.  Got him on some meds for it and suddenly he's a once, maybe twice a night waker unless there's a good reason (being sick, usually).

We had been saying over and over again that we knew he'd grow out of it eventually, and we just needed to wait it out, but then my wife got pregnant with our second and we realized we'd have a newborn and a toddler, and neither would sleep.  That lit a fire under our asses like you wouldn't believe.

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2017-10-18 11:38:09 AM  

drayno76: FTA: "Firefly did some research into how much time parents spend every day putting kids to bed (25 minutes), which adds up to 140 hours a week. "


Uh.... year, you mean year you goofy eco blogger.


This expert should be calculating the time they spend cleaning the toaster, jacking off, and waiting for websites to load.
 
2017-10-18 11:43:58 AM  

AthensBoy: Mr. Coffee Nerves: All it took was a simple warning that the monster under his bed would eat his feet if they touched the ground - and a bluetooth speaker linked to a soundboard on my iPhone that plays clips from old Godzilla movies.

I'm stealing that.

/I might need it here before too much longer.


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2017-10-18 12:22:45 PM  
It takes my wife upwards of an hour to put the kid to bed when I'm not around. When I'm home, it's less than 15min. Corporal cuddling is your friend. And Nap Time.

Naptime!
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2017-10-18 12:43:50 PM  

Doc Daneeka: PoweredByIrony: A friend of mine has a 3 year old that will. not. go. to. bed.

His wife literally spends over an hour with the kid at night - reading a story, singing songs, sitting with him. She'll come out of his room looking exhausted and say "I think he's down for the night." and then he'll come out screaming.

I do not have children so although I would like to offer advice (I have successfully dealt with difficult bedtimes for my nieces and nephews) I doubt it would be welcome - especially at the point of stress.  But I do not understand how that kid is still alive.

I have a 6-year-old and an 11-month-old.

For my older child, age 3 was literally and by far THE WORST in terms of sleep.  Fighting bedtime, up at night screaming, etc.

I don't have any solution to offer since nothing really solved the problem.  He just grew out of it by age 4.  Nowadays he sleeps like a rock all night, and thank god for that.


Oh my god... My 3 year old daughter has suddenly become a pain in the ass to get to sleep. I mean, there have been phases where she was difficult, then easy, then difficult, but she decided last week to make it as difficult as possible, and I'm really hating putting her down to bed these days.
 
2017-10-18 12:49:09 PM  
My daughter (8) was an immediate sleeper once I figured out that if I got her into bed and then read a book to her she was fine. It worked better than reading in another room. Got to the point where 8 is bedtime on school nights and you can read (A BOOK!) until 8.30 if you want. She rarely made it to 8.30. Then we had a bit of a home invasion, so now it's like an hour to get her settled down and secure enough to go to sleep, then at minimum 4 times a night she's up and wants someone to sit in her room until she falls asleep. Can't wait until June when we move and she can sleep in a new place where hopefully she can finally feel safe again.
 
2017-10-18 12:54:01 PM  

Greek: Doc Daneeka: PoweredByIrony: A friend of mine has a 3 year old that will. not. go. to. bed.

His wife literally spends over an hour with the kid at night - reading a story, singing songs, sitting with him. She'll come out of his room looking exhausted and say "I think he's down for the night." and then he'll come out screaming.

I do not have children so although I would like to offer advice (I have successfully dealt with difficult bedtimes for my nieces and nephews) I doubt it would be welcome - especially at the point of stress.  But I do not understand how that kid is still alive.

I have a 6-year-old and an 11-month-old.

For my older child, age 3 was literally and by far THE WORST in terms of sleep.  Fighting bedtime, up at night screaming, etc.

I don't have any solution to offer since nothing really solved the problem.  He just grew out of it by age 4.  Nowadays he sleeps like a rock all night, and thank god for that.

Oh my god... My 3 year old daughter has suddenly become a pain in the ass to get to sleep. I mean, there have been phases where she was difficult, then easy, then difficult, but she decided last week to make it as difficult as possible, and I'm really hating putting her down to bed these days.


Yeah, I don't know what to say.  That whole year just sucked for us.  The only thing that would stop all-night screaming hysterics was letting him sleep in our bed with us.  Which we only did as a last resort at points of complete exhaustion.  And even then we would get shiatty sleep for the rest of the night as we sustained kicks and elbows all night long.

But it got better.  By age 4 he had turned the corner, and has been a good sleeper ever since.  It's just a horrible phase for some kids.
 
2017-10-18 01:03:28 PM  
I always remember it going like this in my house growing up:

"IT'S NINE PM GO TO BED"

I got up and I put myself to bed.

The end.
 
2017-10-18 01:31:12 PM  

JRoo: If taking care of the kids you make drives you to take drugs you never should have had kids.


A lot of parents shouldn't have had kids. Society pressures people making them thinking any other decision is deviant or selfish. Child-free should be the default for most people.
 
2017-10-18 01:57:43 PM  
Humans are probably pack animals, and having a child sleep in a separate room (for us, that means upstairs and down the hall, over 100 kiddie steps away) probably just goes against that pack mentality.

But society tell us that, no, we're not animals, and therefore kids need to sleep in their own rooms.

Anyway ... we struggled with getting our daughter to sleep, and while we usually just left her to her own devices, on extremely difficult nights, we would take her for car rides around the block until she just konked out.

It's different for every child, of course, but I think I want to attribute the problems we had to my wife and I doing a terrible job of allowing her to self-soothe as an infant.  Whenever she'd cry, we'd come running and do whatever it took to get her to stop crying - if it wasn't feeding or changing, we'd just cuddle her.

We learned later that some feel it's not wise to do that.
 
2017-10-18 01:59:30 PM  
I do have a suggestion for some parents that helped me with my sleep issues, don't eat dinner so late at night.

It just wakes you up and gives you a burst of energy which prevents you from winding down. I do my best not to eat past 6:30-7:00 pm on a busy night. Whenever I'm busy I tend to go-to simple dinner fare like sandwiches to prevent me from eating late.
 
2017-10-18 02:07:08 PM  
I love how I go through bedtime routine with my 2-year old (PJs, snack, drink, brush teeth, stories, lights off, short cuddle) and then he just waves me off. Like, I'm done faithful servant, you may retire. With two older siblings I think he appreciates the quiet time. The oldest gets told to go to bed. The middle child usually tries to pull my head off with hugs.
 
2017-10-18 02:49:09 PM  
Just put my four-year old to bed. Took 30 seconds. OK she'd fallen asleep on the sofa so it was kinda easy.

Burr - we are in Spain and my wife and I are still cooking (20:50 here) should be eating in 20 mins max.
 
2017-10-18 03:25:38 PM  
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2017-10-18 03:32:31 PM  
My 5 year-old is probably a little less than that, except on a night when she's over-tired and melts down.  Then it's 25 minutes to get her to brush her teeth, 25 minutes to go potty, 25 minutes to get in bed, and 25 minutes to fall asleep.

My 3 year old, 25 minutes to brush teeth and go potty, then get in bed is 25 minutes.  She just can't immediately fall asleep.  That's the same problem I have, though, so she's really taking after me.

My 8 month old is 10 minutes.  Change, as much bottle as she can get with the remaining time, and out.
 
2017-10-18 03:48:25 PM  

taoistlumberjak: My 5 year-old is probably a little less than that, except on a night when she's over-tired and melts down.  Then it's 25 minutes to get her to brush her teeth, 25 minutes to go potty, 25 minutes to get in bed, and 25 minutes to fall asleep.

My 3 year old, 25 minutes to brush teeth and go potty, then get in bed is 25 minutes.  She just can't immediately fall asleep.  That's the same problem I have, though, so she's really taking after me.

My 8 month old is 10 minutes.  Change, as much bottle as she can get with the remaining time, and out.


Yes.

Babies are pretty easy.  Toddlers/pre-schoolers are the worst.  Then they get pretty easy again.

That's been my experience.
 
2017-10-18 03:58:30 PM  

Doc Daneeka: Yes.

Babies are pretty easy. Toddlers/pre-schoolers are the worst. Then they get pretty easy again.

That's been my experience.


Infancy was great, she slept between 14 - 16 hours a day for almost the first year.  From 2 - 4 she took a 2 hour nap in the middle of the day and was usually out within 10 minutes of putting her in her bed.  Age 4 things started getting trickier as she took responsibility for more things before bedtime.  Now that she's 7, the ritual is about 45 ish minutes long.  Usually from 7:45 - 8:30 is medicine, teeth, pajamas, stories and cuddles; on a fast night we get her asleep at 8 but that's rare.
 
2017-10-18 04:13:49 PM  

Swiss Colony: Just put my four-year old to bed. Took 30 seconds. OK she'd fallen asleep on the sofa so it was kinda easy.

Burr - we are in Spain and my wife and I are still cooking (20:50 here) should be eating in 20 mins max.


Yeah, the different dinner times threw me for a loop.  Over in the US 18:00-19:00 is pretty standard start time (though 19:00 is usually acceptable as well).  We lived in France for three months not realizing that they started dinner between 19:00 and 20:00 the first time we tried to go out to eat.  We went to the village restaurant (and hotel) at 18:00 and they weren't open.

Another lesson was nothing was open in Italy between the hours of 11:00 - 13:00 because everybody left to go eat, even on a Saturday.
 
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2017-10-18 08:22:55 PM  

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Yup...  that's my two boys to the T.  Bed time routine takes a solid hour (if we are lucky) and another two to three hours of us yelling at them to shut up and go to sleep.  Usually winds up with us separating them into two separate bedrooms.  Which brings on a whole new level of getting them to sleep.  We pray they grow out of this...  quickly.

/father of an almost 5 year old and 2 year old.
 
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