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2017-10-16 11:52:02 PM  
"Everyone can succeed in this society if they work hard enough."

As an incredibly lazy person I find that offensive.
 
2017-10-17 01:10:51 AM  
What is offensive? I's very subjective. When people misinterpret Star Wars and Star Trek therefore people wear pointed ears at a Star Wars convention, that offense me. Lots of political things offend me,

Plenty of serious things offend me. But the ideal thing is not to let the things get to you. Because you can't let them and if you try it'll drive you crazy.

The main thing to remember when something offends you, never let them see you bleed.
 
2017-10-17 02:00:47 AM  
Years of farking has inured me to pretty much everything, you sick bastards.
 
2017-10-17 02:01:03 AM  
It's my party and I'll cry if I want to.
 
2017-10-17 02:03:30 AM  
Not that I'd want the job, but I think I'd be good at that. I'd allow pretty much everything except fire-in-a-crowded-theater stuff.
 
2017-10-17 02:03:43 AM  
I find the term 'micro aggression' to be hostile and offensive but not in a major way.
 
2017-10-17 02:21:28 AM  

Birnone: I find the term 'micro aggression' to be hostile and offensive but not in a major way.


The only correct response to someone who claims a micro-aggression is to say, "grow the fark up".
 
2017-10-17 02:31:46 AM  
Listened to an bit on NPR about back handed compliments but it went the extra mile. As if every time you might have said "you look good, have you lost weight" it was you telling someone that they were fat. Basically every compliment one could imagine was twisted into some slight. Why not go further, talking about the weather means that you're calling someone so fragile that everything else is likely to wound the little wimp.

Aren't there enough examples of people intentionally being rotten to one another? How can waste time with people being hyper-sensitive to folks who are just a bit socially clumsy?
 
2017-10-17 04:33:56 AM  
People in the Geek tab?  Probably more competent than the people in the politics tab, but we still don't want to.
 
2017-10-17 04:55:40 AM  
I'm sometimes mildly offended by the obsessive preoccupation some old, bourgie men have with what's going on on the college campuses they will never step foot on again, if they ever did.
Mind your own business, old farts, and try and find some meaning in what's left of your own shiatty, worthless life - if you can.
 
2017-10-17 05:29:08 AM  
I'm offended by that article.
 
2017-10-17 05:33:58 AM  
Social interaction isn't a farking checklist of dos and dont's, it's a feedback loop, essentially a PID controller.  Not being an asshole is as easy as forming the loop, aka paying minimal attention to how people are reacting to what you're saying.  If they're offended, then what you said was, by definition, offensive.  If they aren't, it wasn't.

There is no absolute "offensive" independent of the context of the audience, and frankly unless you're a farking idiot you should see the signs and avoid the behavior that crosses the line before offense happens nine times out of ten if not more... and that's if you're bad at etiquette.  There are all sorts of situation where intentional, controlled jumping out of this control loop is something you might risk (e.g. when trying to get a laugh or come off as charming), but being inoffensive is neither hard nor complex.

Sure, there are rules of etiquette, but they're mostly optional additions to this basic principle and not the actual principle itself.
 
2017-10-17 06:03:09 AM  

wademh: Listened to an bit on NPR about back handed compliments but it went the extra mile. As if every time you might have said "you look good, have you lost weight" it was you telling someone that they were fat. Basically every compliment one could imagine was twisted into some slight. Why not go further, talking about the weather means that you're calling someone so fragile that everything else is likely to wound the little wimp.

Aren't there enough examples of people intentionally being rotten to one another? How can waste time with people being hyper-sensitive to folks who are just a bit socially clumsy?


That's a very good point, you must have put a lot of thought into that post
 
2017-10-17 06:22:42 AM  
I think the answer is that it's whoever posts the inspirational quote by Stephen Fry about people being offended. Clearly, the person who posts that is a unique and original thinker.
 
2017-10-17 06:23:26 AM  

OgreMagi: Birnone: I find the term 'micro aggression' to be hostile and offensive but not in a major way.

The only correct response to someone who claims a micro-aggression is to say, "grow the fark up".


That's mighty white of you.
 
2017-10-17 06:26:31 AM  
I'm not easily offended.  It should be me.  Although, that sounds like a lot of thankless work....

Nevermind.
 
2017-10-17 07:45:55 AM  

wademh: Listened to an bit on NPR about back handed compliments but it went the extra mile. As if every time you might have said "you look good, have you lost weight" it was you telling someone that they were fat. Basically every compliment one could imagine was twisted into some slight. Why not go further, talking about the weather means that you're calling someone so fragile that everything else is likely to wound the little wimp.

Aren't there enough examples of people intentionally being rotten to one another? How can waste time with people being hyper-sensitive to folks who are just a bit socially clumsy?


That sounds awful. Especially good is being intentionally offended on someone else's behalf.
 
2017-10-17 07:51:13 AM  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: OgreMagi: Birnone: I find the term 'micro aggression' to be hostile and offensive but not in a major way.

The only correct response to someone who claims a micro-aggression is to say, "grow the fark up".

That's mighty white of you.


Why did you leave "male" out?
 
2017-10-17 07:53:39 AM  
And people still wonder why Trump got elected...
 
2017-10-17 07:56:42 AM  

FDR Jones: Not that I'd want the job, but I think I'd be good at that. I'd allow pretty much everything except fire-in-a-crowded-theater stuff.


That's all well and good until you are trapped in your office, surrounded by the Gay Latvian Midget Clown Club all shouting at you from atop ladders because someone made a rainbow munchkin joke.
 
2017-10-17 09:27:29 AM  

TheYeti: FDR Jones: Not that I'd want the job, but I think I'd be good at that. I'd allow pretty much everything except fire-in-a-crowded-theater stuff.

That's all well and good until you are trapped in your office, surrounded by the Gay Latvian Midget Clown Club all shouting at you from atop ladders because someone made a rainbow munchkin joke.


Don't let them bother you. You're bigger than that.
 
2017-10-17 09:34:40 AM  
I am offended that people are so easily offended.
 
2017-10-17 09:35:16 AM  
First day of student orientation get the kids together to play a round of Cards Against Humanity. Every student who is offended is kicked out of the college and told they can re-apply after they grow a spine. Otherwise they should just get their degree online so they don't have to set foot in society.
 
2017-10-17 09:39:09 AM  
white people being offended for other people?  I'm shocked!  Shocked I tell you.
 
2017-10-17 10:20:46 AM  
A good rule is the old "sticks and stones..."

Straight forward, easy to enforce.

You say what you want. I saw what I want. The person who throws the 1st punch goes to jail.
 
2017-10-17 10:21:06 AM  
I often find out that things are offensive to me and my family... and then i ask my family if we are offended and none of us are... i can't help but wonder who the fark is deciding this for us.
also, racial stereotypes are funny if used correctly. that's all there is to it. I had a lab boss who was an uptight white catholic who was deathly afraid of people finding him wrong/insentive/bad/etc. Unfortunately he had an indian guy, a black woman, and a mexican guy working for him and none of us shared his concerns and we made fun of each other's races constantly.

of course he also tried to leave his wife and 2 kids for a 23 yr old grad student who later pressed charges against him... so don't be such an uptighty whitey or you could turn out that way too.
 
2017-10-17 10:52:33 AM  

MilesTeg: A good rule is the old "sticks and stones..."

Straight forward, easy to enforce.

You say what you want. I saw what I want. The person who throws the 1st punch goes to jail.


I'll say what I want when you put the saw down.
 
2017-10-17 11:29:52 AM  

jso2897: I'm sometimes mildly offended by the obsessive preoccupation some old, bourgie men have with what's going on on the college campuses they will never step foot on again, if they ever did.
Mind your own business, old farts, and try and find some meaning in what's left of your own shiatty, worthless life - if you can.


Yes.   Because safe spaces, stopping free speech and victimhood culture is awesome and should be encouraged.
 
2017-10-17 11:31:11 AM  

Techhell: Prank Call of Cthulhu: OgreMagi: Birnone: I find the term 'micro aggression' to be hostile and offensive but not in a major way.

The only correct response to someone who claims a micro-aggression is to say, "grow the fark up".

That's mighty white of you.

Why did you leave "male" out?


And straight also.   White straight male, the most hated man on college campuses.
 
2017-10-17 11:31:40 AM  

MilesTeg: A good rule is the old "sticks and stones..."

Straight forward, easy to enforce.

You say what you want. I saw what I want. The person who throws the 1st punch goes to jail.


Amen.
 
2017-10-17 11:32:45 AM  
Triple post ftw!!!
 
2017-10-17 11:56:42 AM  

OgreMagi: The only correct response to someone who claims a micro-aggression is to say, "grow the fark up".


Which is amusing, since nearly everything classified as a micro-aggression is something that immature people do when they're being thoughtless and clueless about the world around them.  You know, acting like children.

MilesTeg: You say what you want. I saw what I want. The person who throws the 1st punch goes to jail.


Go ahead, threaten to kill someone.  Lie to a judge and call them a useless ----sucker.  Tell someone you're going to rape and kill their child.  You'll go to jail before the person that punches you for doing it.  As a society, we're still moving that line around of what can be said before you've crossed a legal line, regardless of whether it gets physical.
 
2017-10-17 12:10:20 PM  

Mugato: The main thing to remember when something offends you, never let them see you bleed.


That seems to be 180 out of phase with what's going on in politics these days. Victimhood is the coin of the realm and one must publicly exsanguinate with each slight, and demand redress.
 
2017-10-17 12:14:39 PM  

Boxingoutsider: Triple post ftw!!!


no1curr but u
is that how the kids are doing it these days?
 
2017-10-17 12:44:57 PM  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: OgreMagi: Birnone: I find the term 'micro aggression' to be hostile and offensive but not in a major way.

The only correct response to someone who claims a micro-aggression is to say, "grow the fark up".

That's mighty white of you.

[desire to macroaggress intensifies]

 
2017-10-17 12:45:03 PM  
Since ANYTHING will be considered offensive by someone, somewhere, people just need to understand that and realize they aren't the center of the universe.

Mind your own business and you'll be too busy to mind mine.
 
2017-10-17 12:45:18 PM  
Since you weak willed, internet brave tough people are sooo think skinned, I'm gonna explain it you something as raw as I can.

It's called being polite, you ureathra openings.

Let's go over this list, shall we?

"You speak good English."
I believe it supposed to be "You speak English well"

This is a stupid thing to say to anyone, unless the speaker in question apologizes for being difficult to understand.

"When I look at you I don't see color."
Why the fark would this ever come up? In what contex would you even point out somebody skin hue? If you are so damn color blinds what's the point!

 Maybe if you are blind, it might be something to mention.


"America is a melting pot."
 It's not. More like a salad. Living in LA has taught me that. So many languages and cultures retain their identities here. About the only thing that does start to melt is the language. By third or fourth generation, no one seals their original language.

"America is the land of opportunity."
An outright lie.

"Everyone can succeed in this society if they work hard enough."
Another outright lie,
 
2017-10-17 01:24:29 PM  
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2017-10-17 02:57:18 PM  
the essence of free speech is that it doesnt matter if you're offended by hearing it.  go see your therapist if you want to talk about your feelings to someone.
 
2017-10-17 03:37:41 PM  
They totally missed the mark with, "You speak good English." Firstly because it's, "you speak English well." Secondly because they are under the impression it would be offensive to recent immigrants. No. It's offensive to visible minorities that were born in the US. Just because someone isn't white doesn't mean they aren't American.
 
2017-10-17 03:52:03 PM  
I don't care if you're offended.  If you're offended, I can laugh and make fun of you more easily.  Maybe bring it up often enough that you get over yourself.
 
2017-10-17 04:49:28 PM  

wademh: Listened to an bit on NPR about back handed compliments but it went the extra mile. As if every time you might have said "you look good, have you lost weight" it was you telling someone that they were fat.


I avoid this whole mess by greeting people with "Whoaaa!!!! Put down the fork, fatty!!! You're three sizes larger than since I last saw you... and that was Tuesday!"
 
2017-10-17 04:50:29 PM  
If you can't stop these aresholes from displaying their crap in public (and legally, you can not), then it's not really worth discussing whether something is or is not "too offensive to tolerate" because by law you must tolerate everything.
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2017-10-17 06:09:22 PM  

Boxingoutsider: White straight male, the most hated man on college campuses.


Those poor snowflakes. It must be so terrible for them. Used to be straight white males had control of like 99% of everything. Now it's what? 96, 97% tops. Such a shame.
 
2017-10-17 06:26:00 PM  
I'm offended at everyone's lack of long straight carrot-colored hair.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-mju_gW3c8
 
2017-10-17 06:28:22 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: I don't care if you're offended.  If you're offended, I can laugh and make fun of you more easily.  Maybe bring it up often enough that you get over yourself.


User name checks out.

"Choose not to be harmed and you won't feel harmed. Don't feel harmed and you haven't been."
 
2017-10-18 01:57:10 AM  

Techhell: Prank Call of Cthulhu: OgreMagi: Birnone: I find the term 'micro aggression' to be hostile and offensive but not in a major way.

The only correct response to someone who claims a micro-aggression is to say, "grow the fark up".

That's mighty white of you.

Why did you leave "male" out?


DID YOU JUST ASSUME THEIR GENDER?!!
 
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