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(Washington Post)   Diane Feinstein has her first serious challenger...from the left. Kind of. Maybe. I'll come in again   ( washingtonpost.com) divider line
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2017-10-16 05:38:40 PM  
Should I get popcorn for this one?
 
2017-10-16 05:53:07 PM  
OOoOoOooOoOoOOOOOOOOOOOOOhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

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2017-10-16 06:56:13 PM  
I'm not sure if Democracy dies in darkness or simply behind a paywall.
 
2017-10-16 07:12:31 PM  

bdub77: I'm not sure if Democracy dies in darkness or simply behind a paywall.


Well......you get what you paid for.
 
2017-10-16 08:10:20 PM  

raerae1980: bdub77: I'm not sure if Democracy dies in darkness or simply behind a paywall.

Well......you get what you paid for.


The corporate lobbyists are proof of that.
 
2017-10-16 09:32:32 PM  
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I'll come in again.
 
2017-10-16 10:01:18 PM  
Well.  I'll bet she wasn't expecting that....
 
2017-10-16 11:04:46 PM  
she can self-dfund

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2017-10-16 11:55:41 PM  
I'm sure she's very scared.
 
2017-10-16 11:58:03 PM  
Yeah... She's not going to get primaried.
 
2017-10-17 12:04:06 AM  
Subby;
You're going to come in Feinstein again, eh.

As for her challenger:
Fine, go for it.  But please don't waste a shiatload of money, don't go moron level hostile, and realize that whomever wins still needs to fight a Republican in general.  Don't give ammunition to the Republicans in your campaign (both against you and your opponent) and don't go so hostile that your dedicated supporters won't support the winner if you happen to lose.

(and to think, when I typed that last spring, I was accused of being a paid DWS Hillary agent)
 
2017-10-17 12:04:13 AM  

JulieAzel626: Yeah... She's not going to get primaried.


She assuredly is going to have primary opponents, because of the California jungle primary system.
 
2017-10-17 12:04:17 AM  
When he announced his run in an email to supporters, he literally accused the president of not having a soul.

Souls are literally not literal.
 
2017-10-17 12:05:48 AM  

Satanic_Hamster: Subby;
You're going to come in Feinstein again, eh.

As for her challenger:
Fine, go for it.  But please don't waste a shiatload of money, don't go moron level hostile, and realize that whomever wins still needs to fight a Republican in general.  Don't give ammunition to the Republicans in your campaign (both against you and your opponent) and don't go so hostile that your dedicated supporters won't support the winner if you happen to lose.

(and to think, when I typed that last spring, I was accused of being a paid DWS Hillary agent)


Does California's jungle primary happen if there's an incumbent?

Cause if the general is progressive-democrat vs feinstein, that'd be interesting.
 
2017-10-17 12:08:03 AM  
A liberal is looking to replace Feinstein?

imokwiththis.jpg
 
2017-10-17 12:08:11 AM  

Dafatone: Satanic_Hamster: Subby;
You're going to come in Feinstein again, eh.

As for her challenger:
Fine, go for it.  But please don't waste a shiatload of money, don't go moron level hostile, and realize that whomever wins still needs to fight a Republican in general.  Don't give ammunition to the Republicans in your campaign (both against you and your opponent) and don't go so hostile that your dedicated supporters won't support the winner if you happen to lose.

(and to think, when I typed that last spring, I was accused of being a paid DWS Hillary agent)

Does California's jungle primary happen if there's an incumbent?

Cause if the general is progressive-democrat vs feinstein, that'd be interesting.


Yup. Top two, regardless of party affiliation.
 
2017-10-17 12:08:23 AM  

Satanic_Hamster: Subby;
You're going to come in Feinstein again, eh.

As for her challenger:
Fine, go for it.  But please don't waste a shiatload of money, don't go moron level hostile, and realize that whomever wins still needs to fight a Republican in general.  Don't give ammunition to the Republicans in your campaign (both against you and your opponent) and don't go so hostile that your dedicated supporters won't support the winner if you happen to lose.

(and to think, when I typed that last spring, I was accused of being a paid DWS Hillary agent)


There's a decent chance she won't face a Republican in the general. The last California Senate race general was two Democrats.
 
2017-10-17 12:09:54 AM  

Satanic_Hamster: Subby;
You're going to come in Feinstein again, eh.

As for her challenger:
Fine, go for it.  But please don't waste a shiatload of money, don't go moron level hostile, and realize that whomever wins still needs to fight a Republican in general.  Don't give ammunition to the Republicans in your campaign (both against you and your opponent) and don't go so hostile that your dedicated supporters won't support the winner if you happen to lose.

(and to think, when I typed that last spring, I was accused of being a paid DWS Hillary agent)


In other words, Status Quo, Democrats. Discussion is dissidence. To propose change is to admit weakness. Conform.
 
2017-10-17 12:11:23 AM  

bdub77: I'm not sure if Democracy dies in darkness or simply behind a paywall.


Pay for a subscription, you cheap bastard, journalism isn't free.
 
2017-10-17 12:12:47 AM  

Lenny_da_Hog: Satanic_Hamster: Subby;
You're going to come in Feinstein again, eh.

As for her challenger:
Fine, go for it.  But please don't waste a shiatload of money, don't go moron level hostile, and realize that whomever wins still needs to fight a Republican in general.  Don't give ammunition to the Republicans in your campaign (both against you and your opponent) and don't go so hostile that your dedicated supporters won't support the winner if you happen to lose.

(and to think, when I typed that last spring, I was accused of being a paid DWS Hillary agent)

In other words, Status Quo, Democrats. Discussion is dissidence. To propose change is to admit weakness. Conform.


That's not at all what he was saying.  Your post is however, a great example of the unreasoning hostility he was saying to avoidn
 
2017-10-17 12:12:52 AM  

Lenny_da_Hog: Satanic_Hamster: Subby;
You're going to come in Feinstein again, eh.

As for her challenger:
Fine, go for it.  But please don't waste a shiatload of money, don't go moron level hostile, and realize that whomever wins still needs to fight a Republican in general.  Don't give ammunition to the Republicans in your campaign (both against you and your opponent) and don't go so hostile that your dedicated supporters won't support the winner if you happen to lose.

(and to think, when I typed that last spring, I was accused of being a paid DWS Hillary agent)

In other words, Status Quo, Democrats. Discussion is dissidence. To propose change is to admit weakness. Conform.


It's like you're typing random words in response to what I wrote.  I
 
2017-10-17 12:14:01 AM  

BorgiaGinz: bdub77: I'm not sure if Democracy dies in darkness or simply behind a paywall.

Pay for a subscription, you cheap bastard, journalism isn't free.


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2017-10-17 12:14:16 AM  

Archidude: That's not at all what he was saying. Your post is however, a great example of the unreasoning hostility he was saying to avoidn


Bros man.  He honestly feels that way, as it would be impossible for him to be trolling (trolling isn't allowed on Fark).
 
2017-10-17 12:16:30 AM  

Archidude: Satanic_Hamster: Subby;
You're going to come in Feinstein again, eh.

As for her challenger:
Fine, go for it.  But please don't waste a shiatload of money, don't go moron level hostile, and realize that whomever wins still needs to fight a Republican in general.  Don't give ammunition to the Republicans in your campaign (both against you and your opponent) and don't go so hostile that your dedicated supporters won't support the winner if you happen to lose.

(and to think, when I typed that last spring, I was accused of being a paid DWS Hillary agent)

There's a decent chance she won't face a Republican in the general. The last California Senate race general was two Democrats.


Interestingly, the more conservative of the two Democrats was the nutbar.

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2017-10-17 12:16:34 AM  
Profiling year, nothing more.
 
2017-10-17 12:17:14 AM  

Krieghund: Interestingly, the more conservative of the two Democrats was the nutbar.

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The hell is going on there.
 
2017-10-17 12:17:35 AM  

Dafatone: Does California's jungle primary happen if there's an incumbent?

Cause if the general is progressive-democrat vs feinstein, that'd be interesting.


Yep. She's one of the safest ones to primary because of that system and the fact that no Republican is going to gain much traction in CA. There's no reason not to make her defend her seat IMO.
 
2017-10-17 12:17:47 AM  

Satanic_Hamster: Lenny_da_Hog: Satanic_Hamster: Subby;
You're going to come in Feinstein again, eh.

As for her challenger:
Fine, go for it.  But please don't waste a shiatload of money, don't go moron level hostile, and realize that whomever wins still needs to fight a Republican in general.  Don't give ammunition to the Republicans in your campaign (both against you and your opponent) and don't go so hostile that your dedicated supporters won't support the winner if you happen to lose.

(and to think, when I typed that last spring, I was accused of being a paid DWS Hillary agent)

In other words, Status Quo, Democrats. Discussion is dissidence. To propose change is to admit weakness. Conform.

It's like you're typing random words in response to what I wrote.  I


And one can propose change without screaming about everything being fixed if something doesn't go their way.
 
2017-10-17 12:19:07 AM  

Satanic_Hamster: Lenny_da_Hog: Satanic_Hamster: Subby;
You're going to come in Feinstein again, eh.

As for her challenger:
Fine, go for it.  But please don't waste a shiatload of money, don't go moron level hostile, and realize that whomever wins still needs to fight a Republican in general.  Don't give ammunition to the Republicans in your campaign (both against you and your opponent) and don't go so hostile that your dedicated supporters won't support the winner if you happen to lose.

(and to think, when I typed that last spring, I was accused of being a paid DWS Hillary agent)

In other words, Status Quo, Democrats. Discussion is dissidence. To propose change is to admit weakness. Conform.

It's like you're typing random words in response to what I wrote.  I


Yeah. There are no recent examples of people running against an anointed candidate, long part of the status quo, where any difference immediately brought forth accusations of, "You're just helping the Republicans!"
 
2017-10-17 12:19:41 AM  

UNC_Samurai: And one can propose change without screaming about everything being fixed if something doesn't go their way.


Maybe he was just trying to work in a Status Quo reference?

Status Quo - Pictures Of Matchstick Men (1968) HQ
Youtube CSACu48urIs
 
2017-10-17 12:20:21 AM  
Top Two is a horrible system that should never be allowed. It makes it all but impossible for incumbents to lose.
 
2017-10-17 12:20:33 AM  

Satanic_Hamster: Archidude: That's not at all what he was saying. Your post is however, a great example of the unreasoning hostility he was saying to avoidn

Bros man.  He honestly feels that way, as it would be impossible for him to be trolling (trolling isn't allowed on Fark).


OMG! You showed up here on Fark just before Hillary ran the first time! And now you're back!
 
2017-10-17 12:21:17 AM  

Krieghund: Archidude: Satanic_Hamster: Subby;
You're going to come in Feinstein again, eh.

As for her challenger:
Fine, go for it.  But please don't waste a shiatload of money, don't go moron level hostile, and realize that whomever wins still needs to fight a Republican in general.  Don't give ammunition to the Republicans in your campaign (both against you and your opponent) and don't go so hostile that your dedicated supporters won't support the winner if you happen to lose.

(and to think, when I typed that last spring, I was accused of being a paid DWS Hillary agent)

There's a decent chance she won't face a Republican in the general. The last California Senate race general was two Democrats.

Interestingly, the more conservative of the two Democrats was the nutbar.

[img.fark.net image 850x566]


Who thought clear podiums was a good idea?
 
2017-10-17 12:21:28 AM  

Satanic_Hamster: Krieghund: Interestingly, the more conservative of the two Democrats was the nutbar.

img.fark.net

The hell is going on there.


Loretta Sanchez doing a "dab".  I think that's what the kids are calling it.
 
2017-10-17 12:23:19 AM  

Lenny_da_Hog: Satanic_Hamster: Lenny_da_Hog: Satanic_Hamster: Subby;
You're going to come in Feinstein again, eh.

As for her challenger:
Fine, go for it.  But please don't waste a shiatload of money, don't go moron level hostile, and realize that whomever wins still needs to fight a Republican in general.  Don't give ammunition to the Republicans in your campaign (both against you and your opponent) and don't go so hostile that your dedicated supporters won't support the winner if you happen to lose.

(and to think, when I typed that last spring, I was accused of being a paid DWS Hillary agent)

In other words, Status Quo, Democrats. Discussion is dissidence. To propose change is to admit weakness. Conform.

It's like you're typing random words in response to what I wrote.  I

Yeah. There are no recent examples of people running against an anointed candidate, long part of the status quo, where any difference immediately brought forth accusations of, "You're just helping the Republicans!"


He lost. He got fewer votes. There was no annointing, there was a freaking election.
 
2017-10-17 12:23:52 AM  

buzzcut73: Dafatone: Does California's jungle primary happen if there's an incumbent?

Cause if the general is progressive-democrat vs feinstein, that'd be interesting.

Yep. She's one of the safest ones to primary because of that system and the fact that no Republican is going to gain much traction in CA. There's no reason not to make her defend her seat IMO.


Exactly. In the Manchin thread earlier, it was brought up that Manchin should be replaced with a progressive, and I was absolutely -incredulous- at how many "smart"s that comment got. Exactly what progressive is going to win a statewide race in WV?

If you want to push a truly progressive candidate, THIS is THE spot you do it.. one where you actually have a chance, and its not the end of the world if you lose.
 
2017-10-17 12:24:30 AM  
Good, she had her fun in the sun, and she needs to retire with all of that establishment cash.
 
2017-10-17 12:27:35 AM  

Lenny_da_Hog: Yeah. There are no recent examples of people running against an anointed candidate, long part of the status quo, where any difference immediately brought forth accusations of, "You're just helping the Republicans!"


The fark are you talking about.  Who cares about Status Quo, most people haven't even heard of that band and they haven't been musically relevant for decades.  And you obviously didn't read what I typed nor is your fevered remembrance of recent events based in reality.

Lenny_da_Hog: OMG! You showed up here on Fark just before Hillary ran the first time! And now you're back!


Oh.  It's almost like you're trolling.  But there's no trolls on Fark.  Odd.  Are you on the goofballs, son?  Did you get into Comrade Condiment's stash?

Fart_Machine: Loretta Sanchez doing a "dab". I think that's what the kids are calling it.


What the fark is a dab and why would she be doing one at a debate.

Wait, is it about this?

Everything You Need to Know About The Last Dab, the Hottest Sauce on Hot Ones
Youtube -zCYX0esYlo
 
2017-10-17 12:31:23 AM  
I wish Boxster had stayed in the senate and Feinstein retired.
 
2017-10-17 12:32:31 AM  

Satanic_Hamster: Lenny_da_Hog: Yeah. There are no recent examples of people running against an anointed candidate, long part of the status quo, where any difference immediately brought forth accusations of, "You're just helping the Republicans!"

The fark are you talking about.  Who cares about Status Quo, most people haven't even heard of that band and they haven't been musically relevant for decades.  And you obviously didn't read what I typed nor is your fevered remembrance of recent events based in reality.

Lenny_da_Hog: OMG! You showed up here on Fark just before Hillary ran the first time! And now you're back!

Oh.  It's almost like you're trolling.  But there's no trolls on Fark.  Odd.  Are you on the goofballs, son?  Did you get into Comrade Condiment's stash?

Fart_Machine: Loretta Sanchez doing a "dab". I think that's what the kids are calling it.

What the fark is a dab and why would she be doing one at a debate.

Wait, is it about this?

[YouTube video]


http://www.latimes.com/politics/essen​tial/la-pol-sac-essential-politi​c​s-updates-what-s-loretta-sanchez-doing​-in-the-1475725380-htmlstory.htm​l
 
2017-10-17 12:33:48 AM  

Archidude: Lenny_da_Hog: Satanic_Hamster: Lenny_da_Hog: Satanic_Hamster: Subby;
You're going to come in Feinstein again, eh.

As for her challenger:
Fine, go for it.  But please don't waste a shiatload of money, don't go moron level hostile, and realize that whomever wins still needs to fight a Republican in general.  Don't give ammunition to the Republicans in your campaign (both against you and your opponent) and don't go so hostile that your dedicated supporters won't support the winner if you happen to lose.

(and to think, when I typed that last spring, I was accused of being a paid DWS Hillary agent)

In other words, Status Quo, Democrats. Discussion is dissidence. To propose change is to admit weakness. Conform.

It's like you're typing random words in response to what I wrote.  I

Yeah. There are no recent examples of people running against an anointed candidate, long part of the status quo, where any difference immediately brought forth accusations of, "You're just helping the Republicans!"

He lost. He got fewer votes. There was no annointing, there was a freaking election.


Oh, thank goodness the status quo DNC didn't like, try to put their thumbs (or money) on the scale or anything.

The entire primary season, all we heard was, "Oh, you can't say bad things about the status quo, or they'll use it against her!"
 
2017-10-17 12:35:20 AM  
Left unmentioned by de León were the echoes of Feinstein's words in August. She stunned an adoring San Francisco crowd when she said Trump could learn to be a "good president." The question is whether he can learn and change," Feinstein said. "If so, I believe he can be a good president."

Big money is getting what it wants from Trump.  That's all Feinstein and her ilk care about.  I'm starting to think that several key Democrats are actually GOP operatives controlled via corporate money handlers.  It's a theory that goes a long way towards explaining the silence of Democratic Leadership in the Age of Trump.
 
2017-10-17 12:36:17 AM  

The Bestest: Exactly. In the Manchin thread earlier, it was brought up that Manchin should be replaced with a progressive, and I was absolutely -incredulous- at how many "smart"s that comment got. Exactly what progressive is going to win a statewide race in WV?


Sanders has been eating crackers up in West Virginia, holding town halls and the like pushing medicare for all. He seems to be somewhat popular there, you may be surprised what the right message could do. I'm still leery that he'll screw the dems over like Libermann when it really counts, so I'm kind of neutral here.

 

The Bestest: If you want to push a truly progressive candidate, THIS is THE spot you do it.. one where you actually have a chance, and its not the end of the world if you lose.


Thank you! Usually when I suggest that primarying Feinstein with the type of liberal that would be popular in California (pro-weed, pro single payer, etc) I usually just here how I'm a misogynist that wants Republicans to win, no matter how much I point out that she'd be running against another D in the general anyway.
 
2017-10-17 12:36:58 AM  

Lenny_da_Hog: Oh, thank goodness the status quo DNC didn't like, try to put their thumbs (or money) on the scale or anything.


Not meant to be a factual statement.

Lenny_da_Hog: The entire primary season, all we heard was, "Oh, you can't say bad things about the status quo, or they'll use it against her!"


Also not meant to be a factual statement.

No one said you couldn't say anything against Clinton.  But yes, people did discourage people from going moron level of "bad things" against her because odds are she was going to win and there's no point in getting in a massive shiatfest during the primary.  And you know what?  The same people also said that about saying things about Sanders.  Because no matter which one won, the true fight was in November against the eventual Republican nominee.

Saying shiat during the primary like "Candidate X is unfit for office and should be shot out of a cannon into a wall" is farking moronic and doesn't help.
 
2017-10-17 12:38:00 AM  

buzzcut73: I'm still leery that he'll screw the dems over like Libermann when it really counts, so I'm kind of neutral here.


And by he, I mean Manchin, not Sanders, just for clarification.
 
2017-10-17 12:40:40 AM  

backhand.slap.of.reason: Left unmentioned by de León were the echoes of Feinstein's words in August. She stunned an adoring San Francisco crowd when she said Trump could learn to be a "good president." The question is whether he can learn and change," Feinstein said. "If so, I believe he can be a good president."

Big money is getting what it wants from Trump.  That's all Feinstein and her ilk care about.  I'm starting to think that several key Democrats are actually GOP operatives controlled via corporate money handlers.  It's a theory that goes a long way towards explaining the silence of Democratic Leadership in the Age of Trump.


Towards the end of the 2016 election, I was seriously wondering whether the Democrats were trying to lose.
 
2017-10-17 12:41:45 AM  

Satanic_Hamster: Lenny_da_Hog: Yeah. There are no recent examples of people running against an anointed candidate, long part of the status quo, where any difference immediately brought forth accusations of, "You're just helping the Republicans!"


The fark are you talking about.  Who cares about Status Quo, most people haven't even heard of that band and they haven't been musically relevant for decades.  And you obviously didn't read what I typed nor is your fevered remembrance of recent events based in reality.


I've never heard of them either. I capitalized it in reverence to your religious commitment to it.

I now offer a selection from your holy hymnal:

Rock The Boat 1974 Hues Corporation
Youtube dndAXxqJbc0
 
2017-10-17 12:44:01 AM  

Lenny_da_Hog: Archidude: Lenny_da_Hog: Satanic_Hamster: Lenny_da_Hog: Satanic_Hamster: Subby;
You're going to come in Feinstein again, eh.

As for her challenger:
Fine, go for it.  But please don't waste a shiatload of money, don't go moron level hostile, and realize that whomever wins still needs to fight a Republican in general.  Don't give ammunition to the Republicans in your campaign (both against you and your opponent) and don't go so hostile that your dedicated supporters won't support the winner if you happen to lose.

(and to think, when I typed that last spring, I was accused of being a paid DWS Hillary agent)

In other words, Status Quo, Democrats. Discussion is dissidence. To propose change is to admit weakness. Conform.

It's like you're typing random words in response to what I wrote.  I

Yeah. There are no recent examples of people running against an anointed candidate, long part of the status quo, where any difference immediately brought forth accusations of, "You're just helping the Republicans!"

He lost. He got fewer votes. There was no annointing, there was a freaking election.

Oh, thank goodness the status quo DNC didn't like, try to put their thumbs (or money) on the scale or anything.

The entire primary season, all we heard was, "Oh, you can't say bad things about the status quo, or they'll use it against her!"


Look, apparently you are devastated that your idol lost, and can't accept that his loss could possibly have been legitimate.

But the facts just don't bear that out. The whole "She was annointed", "It was her turn" story line is bullshiat. And here's why: Beau Biden's brain tumor. Everyone thought Joe Biden was going to run. Everyone thought the primaries were going to be a battle between Biden and Clinton. No one thought either was a shoe in. Then Beau died. Joe Biden struggled with his grief. Not announcing he wasn't going to run until mid October, which was too late for others to rush in to fill that void.

Beau Biden's brain tumor got Hillary the nomination much more than the DNC did.
 
2017-10-17 12:44:06 AM  

Krieghund: Archidude: Satanic_Hamster: Subby;
You're going to come in Feinstein again, eh.

As for her challenger:

Interestingly, the more conservative of the two Democrats was the nutbar.

[img.fark.net image 850x566]


The challenger was taught to dab by the daughter of her hairdresser earlier that day who thought it would be cool to do at the debate.  Incidentally it's either the same challenger or her sister (both were in Congress) who started rumbling last week about time for a change so Mr de León won't be the only Democratic challenger.
 
2017-10-17 12:49:34 AM  

backhand.slap.of.reason: Left unmentioned by de León were the echoes of Feinstein's words in August. She stunned an adoring San Francisco crowd when she said Trump could learn to be a "good president." The question is whether he can learn and change," Feinstein said. "If so, I believe he can be a good president."

Big money is getting what it wants from Trump.  That's all Feinstein and her ilk care about.  I'm starting to think that several key Democrats are actually GOP operatives controlled via corporate money handlers.  It's a theory that goes a long way towards explaining the silence of Democratic Leadership in the Age of Trump.


Also relevant:

"The Democratic party once represented the working class. But over the last three decades the party has been taken over by Washington-based fundraisers, bundlers, analysts, and pollsters who have focused instead on raising campaign money from corporate and Wall Street executives and getting votes from upper middle-class households in 'swing' suburbs."
 
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