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(Kansas City)   Kansas: We are missing over 70 children that were in foster care. What happened to them? Companies running the state's foster care system: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯   ( kansascity.com) divider line
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2017-10-11 08:22:44 PM  
Kansas is selling foster kids into slavery for profit  by Republican donor private company running Kansas  foster care system. From the information provided this could be true.
 
2017-10-11 08:27:20 PM  
If they'd just cut taxes some more, this kind of thing wouldn't happen.
 
2017-10-11 08:30:20 PM  

Raoul Eaton: If they'd just cut taxes some more, this kind of thing wouldn't happen.


It's a good start but there needs to be more deregulation as well.  Government OUT of child welfare!
 
2017-10-11 08:33:48 PM  
Contractors?  They privatized CPS?

I guess we know where all the white slave girls are coming from.

/here in pa we sell them off to the highest bidder
 
2017-10-11 08:35:39 PM  

eurotrader: Kansas is selling foster kids into slavery for profit


"Selling" might not be entirely accurate.  It could be a lease, or even a rental.
 
2017-10-11 09:22:13 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: eurotrader: Kansas is selling foster kids into slavery for profit

"Selling" might not be entirely accurate.  It could be a lease, or even a rental.


Probably Rent-To-Own deals.  That way you can try before you buy.

They probably didn't check the after-hours Returns slot in the back door.  Probably a pile of kids no noticed.
 
2017-10-11 09:25:41 PM  
Would this be an example of government getting out of the way?
 
2017-10-11 09:48:15 PM  

wejash: Probably Rent-To-Own deals.  That way you can try before you buy.


You're thinking of an Au Pair.  My wife used to rescue (invariably female)* grad students, and went on to Au Pairs.  I should have a god dammed medal for restraining myself.

*College town and those rooms aren't going to rent themselves you know
 
2017-10-11 10:20:48 PM  

djkutch: Would this be an example of government getting out of the way?


Government so small you can drown it in a bathtub.

and kids too, probably
 
2017-10-11 11:20:29 PM  
Didn't Kansas run out of money for the school system? Have they checked the cafeteria kitchens?

What I'm saying is that they're feeding the kids to other kids because... free protein.
 
2017-10-11 11:48:14 PM  

eurotrader: Kansas is selling foster kids into slavery for profit  by Republican donor private company running Kansas  foster care system. From the information provided this could be true.


In other words, no evidence.
 
2017-10-11 11:51:59 PM  
Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

As a former foster parent who adopted 2 of my kids, this shiat makes me get all chainsawy.

This is one time it really is about the children.

/the jokes are funny though
 
2017-10-11 11:52:40 PM  
Stop sending support checks for those kids and your head will spin at how quickly they turn up.
 
2017-10-11 11:54:41 PM  
More like Kansas mavericks take themselves off the dole and bootstrap their way to freedom. They should be praised for skirting all that socialism inherent to the foster care system.
 
2017-10-11 11:56:58 PM  
They shouldn't have signed the organ donor cards.
 
2017-10-12 12:03:29 AM  

NewportBarGuy: Didn't Kansas run out of money for the school system? Have they checked the cafeteria kitchens?

What I'm saying is that they're feeding the kids to other kids because... free protein.


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2017-10-12 12:05:11 AM  
I really hope this isn't another Atalissa.
 
2017-10-12 12:10:32 AM  
It's almost as if the free market is completely incapable of handling certain tasks. I know, heresy to some right wingers.
 
2017-10-12 12:10:53 AM  
Maybe turning over programs responsible for childrens' welfare to private profit motivated entities isn't such a grand idea, Kansas.
 
2017-10-12 12:13:05 AM  
Anyone check the corn mines?
 
2017-10-12 12:14:46 AM  
Despite the criticisms of the private contractors, as the story stated, the rates of missing kids is in line with the national average in protective custody.  Whether run by the state, or private contractor, these kids are coming from often horrific situations and aren't used to having someone look out for them so often they bolt.  It isn't necessarily about the providers being irresponsible (although I am not saying it isn't occurring) but some kids simply will not stay with a foster placement no matter how loving and nurturing.

Kids in foster care are already coming from unstable situations, often are facing drug addiction and or mental illness, and you are not dropping them into a strangers care.  Are you really shocked that some decide they want to run to the streets, their friends, other family members, or even back to their abusive parents? I am not saying that the state can't do better or devote more resources to an often woefully underfunded system, but sadly, this situation is close to the status quo even if it goes largely unreported. It takes special people to want to provide a home to these kids, and often there are not enough spaces for the required need leading to the waits referred to or more marginal placements that can lead to a higher risk of runaways.
 
2017-10-12 12:15:26 AM  
The foster care system shouldn't be privately run.
 
2017-10-12 12:19:11 AM  
What do you have against Capitalism, subby? You're not a commie, are you?
 
2017-10-12 12:19:14 AM  
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2017-10-12 12:23:42 AM  
They are only missing 70 kids out of how many? I bet it is only about 2%! That means they have 98% of the kids accounted for (they think).

If I knew where 98% of my kids were that is almost all of them. Maybe one is.missing a few fingers. That's not so bad, the rest of them is safe.

(In all seriousness, the terrible part is not just that 70 kids are missing, see above posts, but that the foster care people DIDN'T KNOW they were missing. Common guys you have one job).
 
2017-10-12 12:25:52 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: wejash: Probably Rent-To-Own deals.  That way you can try before you buy.

You're thinking of an Au Pair.  My wife used to rescue (invariably female)* grad students, and went on to Au Pairs.  I should have a god dammed medal for restraining myself.

*College town and those rooms aren't going to rent themselves you know


Rescuing young female grad students to become au pairs.

Huh.

And here I thought I might need to learn gardening as a hobby when I retire.

It's about the giving back, you know.
 
2017-10-12 12:29:29 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: eurotrader: Kansas is selling foster kids into slavery for profit

"Selling" might not be entirely accurate.  It could be a lease, or even a rental.


$100k up front to cover this year's budget, $1/year lease for the next 100 years.  I could see it.
 
2017-10-12 12:30:52 AM  

Kouta: The foster care system shouldn't be privately run.


Yes and no. Yes, it shouldn't be run privately. No, have you *met* our government workers!? Speaking as one on the inside, we are a bunch of the most unimaginative, thoughtless, and narcissistic blobs humanity has to offer. The most bait-kakke posts here on fark wouldn't even register as sarcasm on their meters. They're just that... devoid of humanity.
Millenials are taking over though, and we are some of the most sarcastic, sardonic bunch of government workers you'll ever see. The best part, virtually everyone has no idea. It would have started showing up on our performance reviews if they did.

/maybe 15 years before things *start* to get better
//If they don't kill us all before then.
///We really need Gen X to get in on this action, but they've told us hellz naw.
 
2017-10-12 12:33:42 AM  
Having just read this...

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Maybe the children never existed?
 
2017-10-12 12:35:33 AM  
In my opinion, the Foster care system is a necessary evil.

There are some truly caring, wonderful, foster parents out there, but there are a lot of human refuse using the system to their advantage.

When we adopted my daughter at age 5, she had been fed on nothing but rice, with the occasional Chicken McNugget thrown in. Her shoes had been purchased from the Salvation Army (well used) for $3.00. Her foster family received a stipend of about $1500 a month for her care. The social worker we dealt with figured that about $300 actually went to her, whereas the remaining $1200 went to the family so they could buy a bigger house with a pool.
 
2017-10-12 12:35:58 AM  
The issue is lack of communication to the legislature and perhaps to the cps administration I read this correctly. If privatizing social services is going to work, oversight has to be rigorous and consistent. I am a liberal, but I am witness to horror stories from foster kids under an entirely government run process. But the people who make laws should always be reminded about the most vulnerable for which they have the most responsibility.
 
2017-10-12 12:36:11 AM  

chawco: They are only missing 70 kids out of how many? I bet it is only about 2%! That means they have 98% of the kids accounted for (they think).

If I knew where 98% of my kids were that is almost all of them. Maybe one is.missing a few fingers. That's not so bad, the rest of them is safe.

(In all seriousness, the terrible part is not just that 70 kids are missing, see above posts, but that the foster care people DIDN'T KNOW they were missing. Common guys you have one job).


Um, that would mean there are 3500 kids in foster care in that state.  Is that an okay number to you?
 
2017-10-12 12:37:40 AM  

NewportBarGuy: Didn't Kansas run out of money for the school system? Have they checked the cafeteria kitchens?

What I'm saying is that they're feeding the kids to other kids because... free protein.


You could say there's a little Uter in all of us.
 
2017-10-12 12:38:59 AM  

chawco: They are only missing 70 kids out of how many? I bet it is only about 2%! That means they have 98% of the kids accounted for (they think).

If I knew where 98% of my kids were that is almost all of them. Maybe one is.missing a few fingers. That's not so bad, the rest of them is safe.

(In all seriousness, the terrible part is not just that 70 kids are missing, see above posts, but that the foster care people DIDN'T KNOW they were missing. Common guys you have one job).


TFA says that sometimes girls would call in to say they were safe, without saying where. I'd be willing to bet that for most of them, that was the first time anyone even noticed that they were missing.

An uglier possibility is outright fraud: As long as the girls aren't reported missing, the care homes can continue receiving their weekly stipend, and now it's pure profit since they don't have to feed or house that one.
 
2017-10-12 12:40:57 AM  
sadly, like most things these days, there will be outrage with no real reaction other than thoughts and prayers
 
2017-10-12 12:41:34 AM  

Literally Addicted: chawco: They are only missing 70 kids out of how many? I bet it is only about 2%! That means they have 98% of the kids accounted for (they think).

If I knew where 98% of my kids were that is almost all of them. Maybe one is.missing a few fingers. That's not so bad, the rest of them is safe.

(In all seriousness, the terrible part is not just that 70 kids are missing, see above posts, but that the foster care people DIDN'T KNOW they were missing. Common guys you have one job).

Um, that would mean there are 3500 kids in foster care in that state.  Is that an okay number to you?


There's about 400 thousand kids in foster care, because their parents are dead or total farkups. I'm not sure if 3500 exactly matches the state's population ratio, but it sounds plausible. I don't think it's "okay" but it is an unfortunate reality that some parents are dead or total farkups.
 
2017-10-12 12:43:02 AM  
Carry on, these wayward sons did?
 
2017-10-12 12:43:12 AM  
Kansas CPS director.
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2017-10-12 12:46:13 AM  
What are the odds that the citizens of Kansas will be asked to send "thoughts & prayers" after one, or more, of these children snaps.
 
2017-10-12 12:48:01 AM  

foxyshadis: An uglier possibility is outright fraud: As long as the girls aren't reported missing, the care homes can continue receiving their weekly stipend, and now it's pure profit since they don't have to feed or house that one.


Sadly, I think in some cases, this is absolutely what happens.
 
2017-10-12 01:05:09 AM  
From a business plan point of view, the thing about care systems (elder care, child care, health care, etc) is that you make more money the less you care.

The less care you provide, the more money you make.
 
2017-10-12 01:06:43 AM  

Chakat: It's almost as if the free market is completely incapable of handling certain tasks. I know, heresy to some right wingers.


But..but...I have been assured that ONLY unfettered free market forces can ensure that people receive proper access to vital services, and that the ONLY reason for it not to work properly is because a TRUE free market system has never been tried anywhere, ever. Further, I was also warned that questioning the magical Holy-of-Holies was strictly verboten, because capitalism never fails, it can only be failed.
 
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2017-10-12 01:10:00 AM  
NewMerica will have 45 states.  Calling it now.
 
2017-10-12 01:10:09 AM  
Three teenaged girls all from the same family are missing for a month and a half from foster care and the state agency supervising the private contractor responsible for their wellbeing doesn't know anything about it? And they're white?

Has Kris Kobach started a  Kansas Lebensborn program?
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2017-10-12 01:10:35 AM  

eurotrader: Kansas is selling foster kids into slavery for profit  by Republican donor private company running Kansas  foster care system. From the information provided this could be true.


This is far more plausible than Pizzabate.
 
2017-10-12 01:19:14 AM  

biggamehickman: NewportBarGuy: Didn't Kansas run out of money for the school system? Have they checked the cafeteria kitchens?

What I'm saying is that they're feeding the kids to other kids because... free protein.

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2017-10-12 01:35:51 AM  
70 kids?  Disappeared from the foster system?  Kansas.   Yeah.  That should be a Federal investigation, but it won't be...
 
2017-10-12 01:37:04 AM  

NewportBarGuy: Didn't Kansas run out of money for the school system? Have they checked the cafeteria kitchens?

What I'm saying is that they're feeding the kids to other kids because... free protein.


Free is good.
 
2017-10-12 01:39:03 AM  

Daedalus27: Despite the criticisms of the private contractors, as the story stated, the rates of missing kids is in line with the national average in protective custody.  Whether run by the state, or private contractor, these kids are coming from often horrific situations and aren't used to having someone look out for them so often they bolt.  It isn't necessarily about the providers being irresponsible (although I am not saying it isn't occurring) but some kids simply will not stay with a foster placement no matter how loving and nurturing.

Kids in foster care are already coming from unstable situations, often are facing drug addiction and or mental illness, and you are not dropping them into a strangers care.  Are you really shocked that some decide they want to run to the streets, their friends, other family members, or even back to their abusive parents? I am not saying that the state can't do better or devote more resources to an often woefully underfunded system, but sadly, this situation is close to the status quo even if it goes largely unreported. It takes special people to want to provide a home to these kids, and often there are not enough spaces for the required need leading to the waits referred to or more marginal placements that can lead to a higher risk of runaways.


That doesn't excuse the lack of oversight.
 
2017-10-12 01:44:22 AM  
Well at least they didn't get betrayed and raped and murdered by their own parents which accounts for like 90% of child abuse, being murdered by your parents must suck but your 1/1000 likely to be, good job state institutions and people that live next door or in the same house.

Is there a fail of humanity that can be pinned to all farkers accounts ?
 
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