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(Minneapolis Star Tribune)   Does anyone know what the record is for number of DWI convictions? This man just got his 28th, and his mug shot seems to support the story   ( startribune.com) divider line
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2017-10-04 03:11:39 AM  

To Wish Impossible Things: Time to fix the law.

3rd DWIs - no driver's license for 10 years.  We can't trust you behind a wheel.
4th DWI with a valid license - no driver's license ever again.  You haven't learned your lesson.
5th DWI or 4th DWI with no license - lifetime prison sentence.

One could argue the numbers, but racking up three DWIs is a sign you're a screwup.

If you continue to drive without a license, you have demonstrated that you are a continued risk to society.  That's what life in prison is for - it ensures you'll never get behind a wheel ever again.

This man had a valid driver's license after 27 DWIs.  That's just insane.


On the other hand, he's never actually hurt or killed anyone, apparently, not even himself. I'm not a DUI defender, but I don't think that calls for a life sentence?
 
2017-10-04 03:18:47 AM  

HoratioGates: I think at that point you need an ankle bracelet that checks your blood alcohol level, AND goes off if you go faster than 5 mph.  Give the local mass transit and taxi guys a number to call the police at to let the police know he has gotten on a bus.  Any other time he goes over 5 mph you throw him in jail for a week.  Any time his blood alcohol goes over half the legal limit, you throw him in jail for a week.  Any time he gets caught in the driver's seat, even if it's just sitting in a parking space, you throw his butt in jail for a week.  Quick, immediate punishment for every infraction.  Maybe you can recondition him.


A GPS-enabled ankle monitor is a far better solution than paying to house and feed this broken man for the rest of his life. It still doesn't get him the mental health care he needs and probably won't ever accept, but neither would prison, at this point.
 
2017-10-04 03:34:53 AM  
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2017-10-04 04:46:06 AM  
At what point is this attempted manslaughter?
 
2017-10-04 04:54:37 AM  
They should probably start cracking down on the bars at some point.
New York Mills is a small town. I'm sure that every bar in 10 miles knows this guy.
Wanted style posters should be hung in every bar in town warning of a fine if they serve him.
 
2017-10-04 05:18:50 AM  
get an Uber you f*cking dangerous prick
 
2017-10-04 05:31:00 AM  

thorpe: Henry Earl

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"28 you say.?. Pussy!"
Henry Earl.
 
2017-10-04 05:33:15 AM  

foxyshadis: On the other hand, he's never actually hurt or killed anyone


cool, we can evade court sentencing with a lucky roll of the dice now everyone
 
2017-10-04 05:33:21 AM  

American Decency Association: get an Uber you f*cking dangerous prick


10-15 MPH? Get this man the Fark drunk drivers choice.

A shiny new hoveround.
 
2017-10-04 05:36:08 AM  
"The officer located Bettcher's license and noted that it restricted him from drinking and driving."
I want that license that makes it legal to do both.
 
2017-10-04 06:14:41 AM  
If you're gonna be a bear,  be a Grizzly...
 
2017-10-04 06:34:10 AM  

Catlenfell: They should probably start cracking down on the bars at some point.
New York Mills is a small town. I'm sure that every bar in 10 miles knows this guy.
Wanted style posters should be hung in every bar in town warning of a fine if they serve him.


Once again, find a group that didn't do anything wrong, and crack down on them. For all we know the guy goes to liquor stores.

Presumably the guy's fine driving when he's not half in the bag, I wonder how difficult it is to give DWI offenders a temporary driver's license that serves to prevent them from purchasing alcohol. All it would take is something that identifies the person as a convicted drunk driver, maybe something as simple as changing or adding a digit/letter. This would make it simple for liquor stores and grocery stores who already (at least in my state) proof everybody to identify who they're not supposed to be selling to.

Failing that, take the drunk's car, give him a bus pass and hold the car until he demonstrates he's gotten his shiat together.
 
2017-10-04 06:40:52 AM  
Came for Henry Earl, leaving satisfied.
 
2017-10-04 07:17:16 AM  

Voodoo_Stu: Voodoo_Stu: thorpe: Henry Earl

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They reused one of the photos.

.. At least two of the photos.


There should be a Henry Earl version of Concentration.
 
2017-10-04 07:31:25 AM  
Bettcher, who had a valid yet restricted driver's license at the time of his arrest, remains jailed in lieu of $100,000 bail ahead of an Oct. 30 court appearance.

28 arrests. This is what happens when a society treats drunk driving as an inevitable nuisance, instead of a serious problem.
 
2017-10-04 08:40:04 AM  
Which one of those face sacks is his real chin? Thank jeebus mug shots are neck up.
 
2017-10-04 08:43:13 AM  
I like how it says in the article that his driver's licence forbids him from driving drunk.  I thought ALL driver's licences have a restriction on driving drunk.
 
2017-10-04 09:24:31 AM  
How about after your 3rd DUI, you get a 20 year prison term for attempted murder.
 
2017-10-04 09:26:39 AM  
I dunno, I always thought this was an epic DUI mugshot.

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2017-10-04 09:30:11 AM  
What? Western Minnesota? Not 'sconsin? *thud*
 
2017-10-04 09:36:38 AM  

ChicagoKev: what made it newsworthy was this was Rep Wood's 5th such arrest.


Amateur.
 
2017-10-04 09:36:38 AM  

The Jami Turman Fan Club: DUI test doesn't really matter.  They pulled you over for a reason.


They don't need a reason to pull you over.
 
2017-10-04 10:03:33 AM  

Mugato: To Wish Impossible Things: 5th DWI or 4th DWI with no license - lifetime prison sentence.

That's over doing it a much. Especially since the DUI tests are less than reliable.


Yeah life in prison is a little harsh.  I'd say mandatory house arrest with ankle sensor for 2 years
then start giving real prison time - a few additional years for each subsequent violation.
 
2017-10-04 10:26:39 AM  

151: 151: What really kills me is that the maximum penalty for 28 DUIs in Wisconsin is SEVEN. FARKING. YEARS.

That's it? Some of you may be aware that once upon a time, I was a retarded piece of shiat, and over 14 years racked up 4 duis. Not proud of it, ashamed of it, so save your bullshiat.

Anyway, the statutory max for my 4th was 7.5 years. I was sentenced to 1.5-7.5 years, did 27 months. For my FOURTH.

And I'm not at all complaining about my sentence, if anything mine was probably to lenient (though enough to get the point across to not be a retarded piece of shiat, which I no longer am).

Wisconsin, what the FARK?

Let me clarify, which I meant to in my original post but forgot: in Michigan, habitual felons max sentenced are increased exponentially.

So a third DUI, which is a first felony DUI, has a statutory max of 5 years. Your 4th, also second felony DUI, the max is increased by 50%, to 7.5 years. If I were to go out tonight and catch my 5th DUI, which would be my third habitual felony DUI, my max would increase 100% from the original, to 10 years.

After that, meaning my 6th DUI, fourth habitual felony, would be punishable by any term of years, less than life, provided that the original felony itself was not punishable by life.

This is how felonies work in Michigan, and I think how they should work everywhere. The DUI example is a bit weird because it's only a felony after the first two misdemeanor offences.

But think of it like this: home invasion, or firearm possession, heroin, etc, all felonies no matter what. You get caught with heroin 3 times, you can get sentenced to a max of 99 years.

What the fark is wrong with Wisconsin that they don't have the option to lock away a man that is so clearly a threat to the community for the rest of his foreseeable future? Something needs to change there, ffs.


I blame one guy:  Scott Fitzgerald (R-Tavern League's biatch).  Republican sponsored bills pass with strong bipartisan support in the Assembly.  Seemingly have enough votes in the Senate, but somehow those bills never make it to the floor for a vote.  It has nothing to do with party affiliation.  Both D's and R's support the bills, the public overwhelmingly supports them, but this asshole continues to block them.  This shiat's been going on for years.  How the hell he doesn't get his ass booted out at election time is beyond me.
 
2017-10-04 11:28:34 AM  

The Jami Turman Fan Club: Mugato: To Wish Impossible Things: 5th DWI or 4th DWI with no license - lifetime prison sentence.

That's over doing it a much. Especially since the DUI tests are less than reliable.

DUI test doesn't really matter.  They pulled you over for a reason.  They suspected you were drunk for a reason.  They tested you for a reason.  By that point, you don't need the results of the test to show you're DUI.   I thought a year in jail for the second offense in 5 years would do the trick.  Minnesota legislators passed it, judges would downgrade the offense to get the person out of it.  Really sick.

/Does not apply to random checkpoints, or stalking a bar.
//The first was declared Unconstitutional in Minnesota, the latter has gotten thousands of complaints and they've mostly stopped.
///If the police pull you over because you didn't appear to be driving safely, you shouldn't be on the road no matter what the cause.


No. "They pulled you over" because you are driving between midnight and 4 am. "You were weaving" is the most common answer they give. How can you refute that short of having a dashcam video from the cop car? Once they have you stopped, that's when they notice the glassy eyes and strong odor of alcohol "about the person". The chances you have been drinking are huge after midnight. It's like shooting fish in a barrel.

I've been out at a bar drinking soda all night. Cop pulls me over a block from the bar "because I was weaving." I was fully rested, sober and wide awake. I was not weaving. After returning to my car with my license and registration, first question was "how much have you had to drink tonight?" while leaning towards me to smell for alcohol. "Nothing." He shined his flashlight into my face. Knowing he didn't have a DUI, he quickly wrapped it up saying "well, be more careful and stay in your lane. Have a safe night."

It's bullshiat, but that is how they play the game. More than likely, they pull someone over, near a bar, after midnight, the cops will have a DUI.
 
2017-10-04 11:45:36 AM  

Mad Mark: "The officer located Bettcher's license and noted that it restricted him from drinking and driving."
I want that license that makes it legal to do both.


You'll need to move to Kerry County, Ireland.
 
2017-10-04 11:55:49 AM  

The Jami Turman Fan Club: Minnesota legislators passed it, judges would downgrade the offense to get the person out of it.


They're not doing it to "get the person out of it."

They're doing it because the 'lesser' charge often comes with a much bigger fine, and people would rather pay more than have the DWI rap on their record, and the government would rather have the revenue than have to pay incarceration costs, especially not for somebody who's not a danger long as they're not on the sauce.
 
2017-10-04 12:23:19 PM  
Still has a drivers license?  He must be loaded in more ways than one.
 
2017-10-04 12:53:10 PM  
28 DWI's?  Sounds like the drunk that killed my uncle. 

4:30 in the afternoon, this guy is drunk and runs over my uncle, who was on his motorcycle and stopped at a red light.  IIRC, the guy that killed my uncle was on his 15th DWI, or so.  They finally put him away for 10-15yrs, but nothing will bring my uncle back. 

RIP Gary
 
2017-10-04 01:30:10 PM  

plewis: I like how it says in the article that his driver's licence forbids him from driving drunk.  I thought ALL driver's licences have a restriction on driving drunk.


The restriction is for drinking and driving.  That's drinking, period.  One beer & drive, even though you only blow a 0.02%?  Back to jail you go.

I'm surprised they didn't have him a complete "no alcohol" restriction. They do that in Texas when you're on probation. They catch you drinking one beer, even in your own house and not going anywhere, back to jail you go.
 
2017-10-04 05:22:01 PM  
I wonder what the frequency for his arrests are.

Friend of mine holds two informal records at his local PD. One of them is for arresting the same guy for two DUIs within 24 hours of each other. He worked the 3pm-11pm shift and right at the tail end of a shift he nabbed a guy driving shiatfaced drunk. Booked him at the jail, went home. Came back to work for the shift brief the next afternoon and a staffer at the department front desk comes to the squad room to report that the guy was just in the lobby to pay the release fine to get his car, he's shiatfaced drunk again, and is headed to the tow company yard to get his car. The guy was immediately released from shift brief, gets in his squad car, and arrives at the tow yard just in time to nail the guy drunk driving AGAIN.

The other record is for arresting a DUI and then arresting the arriving tow truck driver for DUI. Two at the same time.
 
2017-10-04 08:37:03 PM  
Years ago a co-worker of a friend of mine borrowed a guy's scooter to make a cigarette run at a party. He got a DWI on a moped. Later that summer he was racing go-karts at a track on 76 highway in Branson Mo. Instead of pulling off the track when the time was up he decided to take the scenic route. Down 76 Boulevard. He got a DWI in a go-kart also.
 
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