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(Talking Points Memo)   White House claims it is "premature" to talk about gun control in wake of Las Vegas shooting, too late to bring up Sandy Hook   ( talkingpointsmemo.com) divider line
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2017-10-02 04:17:14 PM  
Sanders said that "there's a time and place for a political debate, but now is the time to unite as a country."

Oh fark off.
 
2017-10-02 04:40:09 PM  

Flappyhead: Sanders said that "there's a time and place for a political debate, but now is the time to unite as a country."

Oh fark off.


I think she's being serious.

It's just the time is whenever Trump is holding a rally, and the place is whatever deep South locale he's chosen.
 
2017-10-02 04:46:24 PM  
Apparently it is never ever ever the right time.
 
2017-10-02 04:53:05 PM  

lindalouwho: Apparently it is never ever ever the right time.


Sure it is: It's right after black people are done protesting racial injustice in public without being booed and told that they are REALLY protesting against the flag, country, army or whatever.
 
2017-10-02 04:56:51 PM  

Flappyhead: Sanders said that "there's a time and place for a political debate, but now is the time to unite as a country."

Oh fark off.


No, she's right.

Now is the time to unite as a country over farking meaningful farking gun control.
 
2017-10-02 05:18:32 PM  
HuckYuck: There's a time and a place to talk about gun control. Right now the time and place is to talk about how much of a boost Trumpy is going to get in poll numbers!
 
2017-10-02 05:19:14 PM  
Now imagine if 58 immigrants voted in the last election
 
2017-10-02 05:46:58 PM  
Timing is everything - when is the right time to talk gun control?

Ah, anytime... in this general area, right in here. Anything, before The Pulse, and on this side of Columbine. Anything between Charleston and San Bernardino. Anything in this three seconds. Right in here, this area, that includes Waco but not Sandy Hook.
 
2017-10-02 05:52:14 PM  
Trump, he's a uniter, where unite means balkanize.
 
2017-10-02 05:53:43 PM  
December 7 1941: Now is not the time to talk of war with Japan.

September 11 2001: Now is not the time to talk about terrorism.

The way this administration runs, you know that now is the perfect time to talk about gun control.
 
2017-10-02 05:54:59 PM  
...that may be so, but maybe it IS time to have a long and deep think on mental health care in this country...and a discussion about education...and on economic fairness...because I think that it's well past time for us to talk about the CAUSES of these sorts of incidents as opposed to the tools used...
 
2017-10-02 05:56:58 PM  
Sanders also said "it would premature of us to discuss policy" without knowing all the facts of the shooting.

Okay, can we talk policy about San Bernadino, Pulse, Newton, Aurora?  Has it been long enough to know all the facts about those shootings?
 
2017-10-02 06:22:12 PM  

BizarreMan: Sanders also said "it would premature of us to discuss policy" without knowing all the facts of the shooting.

Okay, can we talk policy about San Bernadino, Pulse, Newton, Aurora?  Has it been long enough to know all the facts about those shootings?


Still too soon.
 
2017-10-02 06:35:08 PM  

BizarreMan: Sanders also said "it would premature of us to discuss policy" without knowing all the facts of the shooting.

Okay, can we talk policy about San Bernadino, Pulse, Newton, Aurora?  Has it been long enough to know all the facts about those shootings?


Does not apply to GOP sponsored health care bills
 
2017-10-02 06:45:45 PM  
I try to avoid looking at Sarah Huckabee Sanders because every time I do I can feel the abyss staring back at me.
 
2017-10-02 06:52:51 PM  
Sandy Hook was a false flag!  Wait, which site am I on?  shiat.
 
2017-10-02 06:54:59 PM  
Magazine capacity, limit 10 bullets.
 
2017-10-02 06:55:51 PM  
The death and carnage will continue unabated. Learn to deal with it. Assholes wants to pretend to be tough guys with come and take it flags/signs. They'll have shirts with check boxes that say victim or gun owner and pretend to have great stories of armed patriots stopping crimes and keeping the government in check.

/of course, they'll gloss over the fact that they're guy trump sold us out to Russia but whatever. They get to have guns!
 
2017-10-02 06:57:18 PM  
Like the GOP-lead Senate, you only get ninety minutes to debate the bill, but they never say when it is.
 
2017-10-02 06:57:33 PM  

hubiestubert: ...that may be so, but maybe it IS time to have a long and deep think on mental health care in this country...and a discussion about education...and on economic fairness...because I think that it's well past time for us to talk about the CAUSES of these sorts of incidents as opposed to the tools used...


I would say I agree with you, but this guy had no history of mental health problems and he was a multi-millionaire. Granted, that doesn't hold water with some other mass shootings, but this dude didn't fit the bill when it comes to profiling potential crazy people doing bad things with guns.
 
2017-10-02 06:57:43 PM  
By GOP standards, it's ALWAYS 'premature' to talk about gun control, because mass shootings happen at least on a farking weekly basis.

The GOP can go fark itself. It is a toxic, irredeemable monstrosity of a political party that exists solely to encourage the worst in humanity.
 
2017-10-02 06:58:05 PM  
We have a president doing everything he can to start a nuclear war, and you think he will do something on gun control?
 
2017-10-02 07:01:02 PM  

ToastmasterGeneral: Flappyhead: Sanders said that "there's a time and place for a political debate, but now is the time to unite as a country."

Oh fark off.

I think she's being serious.

It's just the time is whenever Trump is holding a rally, and the place is whatever deep South locale he's chosen.


3 seconds after she started spouting the talking points about Chicago. It's not time for the other side to be heard, and it may never be in this administration
 
2017-10-02 07:03:27 PM  
Butterbeast and the orange pus-sac have taken whatever dignity that was carried when "the White House"  spoke.
 
2017-10-02 07:04:14 PM  
This is your "well-regulated militia", Mr. President.  If uniformed soldiers were killing each other with such frequency and ferocity, you'd be calling on the Joint Chiefs to commit seppuku.
 
2017-10-02 07:04:58 PM  
But it is the time to discuss tax cuts.
 
2017-10-02 07:05:47 PM  

cranked: Timing is everything - when is the right time to talk gun control?

Ah, anytime... in this general area, right in here. Anything, before The Pulse, and on this side of Columbine. Anything between Charleston and San Bernardino. Anything in this three seconds. Right in here, this area, that includes Waco but not Sandy Hook.


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2017-10-02 07:06:15 PM  
Look, if you're an American like I am, and you don't have several million dollars to buy your own politicians, you need to accept that your life does not matter to the people in charge. 5 dead, 50 dead, 5000 dead isn't enough to even make a ding in most voting bases, and it's been shown again and again that if it won't affect their polling numbers, most of our politicians don't give a fig what happens to the country. As long as it makes money for their owners, they're happy to sentence however many Americans to death as is needed.
Face it, we the people don't matter anymore. We're just fodder for the games played by our ruling class. The sooner we all accept this, the sooner we can collectively decide if it's worth the effort to try to make a societal change or not.
 
2017-10-02 07:06:27 PM  
What the country would be like today if Obama DID TAKE their guns....
 
2017-10-02 07:06:30 PM  
 
2017-10-02 07:07:16 PM  

cranked: Timing is everything - when is the right time to talk gun control?

Ah, anytime... in this general area, right in here. Anything, before The Pulse, and on this side of Columbine. Anything between Charleston and San Bernardino. Anything in this three seconds. Right in here, this area, that includes Waco but not Sandy Hook.


I got this reference.

//The Jerk, classic!
 
2017-10-02 07:09:46 PM  
Well something's got to give so either vote for gun control or completely ban country music.
 
2017-10-02 07:10:18 PM  

darkmythology: Look, if you're an American like I am, and you don't have several million dollars to buy your own politicians, you need to accept that your life does not matter to the people in charge. 5 dead, 50 dead, 5000 dead isn't enough to even make a ding in most voting bases, and it's been shown again and again that if it won't affect their polling numbers, most of our politicians don't give a fig what happens to the country. As long as it makes money for their owners, they're happy to sentence however many Americans to death as is needed.
Face it, we the people don't matter anymore. We're just fodder for the games played by our ruling class. The sooner we all accept this, the sooner we can collectively decide if it's worth the effort to try to make a societal change or not.


They don't even care when one of their own gets shot.  Why should we expect them to care about us dirty peasants?
 
2017-10-02 07:11:12 PM  

Peter von Nostrand: Assholes wants to pretend to be tough guys with come and take it flags/signs.


Just remember what happened to the original cannon on the Gonzales flag:

The Mexicans came. And took it.
 
2017-10-02 07:11:13 PM  
I did like the 'but the president talked about his travel ban during the pulse attack, but now it's too early to talk policy?' question
 
2017-10-02 07:12:01 PM  

KodosZardoz: cranked: Timing is everything - when is the right time to talk gun control?

Ah, anytime... in this general area, right in here. Anything, before The Pulse, and on this side of Columbine. Anything between Charleston and San Bernardino. Anything in this three seconds. Right in here, this area, that includes Waco but not Sandy Hook.

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How farked up is it that Navin would actually make a better POTUS than Trump?
 
2017-10-02 07:12:12 PM  

Mackerel79: cranked: Timing is everything - when is the right time to talk gun control?

Ah, anytime... in this general area, right in here. Anything, before The Pulse, and on this side of Columbine. Anything between Charleston and San Bernardino. Anything in this three seconds. Right in here, this area, that includes Waco but not Sandy Hook.

I got this reference.

//The Jerk, classic!


Good for you, Arlene Francis.
 
2017-10-02 07:12:19 PM  
I'm in no way calling for this, but how funny would it be for Wayne LaPierre to be a victim of this kind of violence?
 
2017-10-02 07:12:27 PM  

Gordon Bennett: I try to avoid looking at Sarah Huckabee Sanders because every time I do I can feel the abyss staring back at me.


What is the aural equivalent of this?  Because I experience that and what you said, as well.
 
2017-10-02 07:13:03 PM  
The debate over firearm legislation is over. Gun control advocates have lost. The NRA has controlled the narrative and manipulated our government officials. Politicians that advocate for gun control legislation will never be in the majority in Congress. We will have to accept the occasional mass casualty (which is becoming more frequent) in this country.
/gun owner
//CCW holder
///sick of the gun nuts and the NRA
////not a member
 
2017-10-02 07:13:20 PM  
Maybe we should put together a single post with the gifs, quotes, links and graphs that people think they're brilliant for posting in every single thread so we can just pin it and move on?
 
2017-10-02 07:14:07 PM  
Well, before you can talk gun laws, first determine if he followed the ones we had. If he got all his guns black market smuggled by drug cartels, then we need to end the smuggling problem through legalization to eliminate that business model. Can't just talk flap jaw about gun control without plans built on knowing what the fark happened.
 
2017-10-02 07:14:30 PM  

Clutch2013: Gordon Bennett: I try to avoid looking at Sarah Huckabee Sanders because every time I do I can feel the abyss staring back at me.

What is the aural equivalent of this?  Because I experience that and what you said, as well.


Anechoic chamber.
 
2017-10-02 07:17:33 PM  
Can't one report have balls enough to ask:
If  it's "premature" to talk about gun control right after a mass shooting why is it then ok to talk about immigration bans right after a terrorist attack?
 
2017-10-02 07:17:55 PM  
Have they announced which well regulated militia he was a member of?
 
2017-10-02 07:19:06 PM  

MichiganFTL: Maybe we should put together a single post with the gifs, quotes, links and graphs that people think they're brilliant for posting in every single thread so we can just pin it and move on?


But then what will chartbopper do for the rest of the night?
 
2017-10-02 07:19:39 PM  

Corvus: Can't one report have balls enough to ask:
If  it's "premature" to talk about gun control right after a mass shooting why is it then ok to talk about immigration bans right after a terrorist attack?


They actually did.
 
2017-10-02 07:19:53 PM  
They're still getting over the Bowling Green massacre
 
2017-10-02 07:20:44 PM  
I think she means "Now is not the time to talk about gun control because there's no farking way in hell that this congress or this president will ever, ever even consider it."
 
2017-10-02 07:20:57 PM  

BizarreMan: Sanders also said "it would premature of us to discuss policy" without knowing all the facts of the shooting.

Okay, can we talk policy about San Bernadino, Pulse, Newton, Aurora?  Has it been long enough to know all the facts about those shootings?


What concrete changes would you propose that would have stopped those attacks from occurring?
 
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