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(Politico)   Puerto Rico continues to become Trump's Katrina. Trump is still America's Katrina   ( politico.com) divider line
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2017-09-29 03:02:15 PM  
This isn't very fair to Hurricane Katrina.
 
2017-09-29 04:19:23 PM  

kevlar51: This isn't very fair to Hurricane Katrina.


Hell this isn't fair to Bush's response to Katrina
 
2017-09-29 04:22:23 PM  

TheDarkSaintOfGin: kevlar51: This isn't very fair to Hurricane Katrina.

Hell this isn't fair to Bush's response to Katrina


But Katrina and the Waves totally deserve it.
 
2017-09-29 04:22:24 PM  

TheDarkSaintOfGin: kevlar51: This isn't very fair to Hurricane Katrina.

Hell this isn't fair to Bush's response to Katrina


True.  Compared to what this administration is not doing for PR, Bush and his head of FEMA look like goddamn MENSA candidates as far as their reaction to the aftermath of Katrina.
 
2017-09-29 04:22:46 PM  
He let them take over payments on his throwaway golf course, not his fault they didn't sell it to one of their friends at a ridiculously inflated profit.
 
2017-09-29 04:23:44 PM  

TheDarkSaintOfGin: kevlar51: This isn't very fair to Hurricane Katrina.

Hell this isn't fair to Bush's response to Katrina


It took Bush 4  days or so but things got going.  Trump is still at the "Playing Guitar at McCain's Birthday" phase of Bush's response.
 
2017-09-29 04:25:04 PM  

Muta: TheDarkSaintOfGin: kevlar51: This isn't very fair to Hurricane Katrina.

Hell this isn't fair to Bush's response to Katrina

It took Bush 4  days or so but things got going.  Trump is still at the "Playing Guitar at McCain's Birthday" phase of Bush's response.


Come on, this is a "Good news story", isn't it?
 
2017-09-29 04:25:50 PM  
But Big Water!
 
2017-09-29 04:27:52 PM  

Muta: TheDarkSaintOfGin: kevlar51: This isn't very fair to Hurricane Katrina.

Hell this isn't fair to Bush's response to Katrina

It took Bush 4  days or so but things got going.  Trump is still at the "Playing Guitar at McCain's Birthday" phase of Bush's response.


McCain was born in PR, wasn't he? And didn't McCain torpedo a couple of Obamacare repeals? Trumplethinskin is exactly that petty.
 
2017-09-29 04:27:57 PM  

Archidude: Muta: TheDarkSaintOfGin: kevlar51: This isn't very fair to Hurricane Katrina.

Hell this isn't fair to Bush's response to Katrina

It took Bush 4  days or so but things got going.  Trump is still at the "Playing Guitar at McCain's Birthday" phase of Bush's response.

Come on, this is a "Good news story", isn't it?


It's an island in a big ocean, y'know.

We can't be expected to be good with islands.

Especially with a president from Manhattan.

O_o
 
2017-09-29 04:27:57 PM  
The tension over the Trump administration's self praise spilled out on Friday morning, with the San Juan mayor lashing out at acting Secretary of Homeland Security Elaine Duke, who said on Thursday that the Maria relief efforts are a "good news story."
"Damn it, this is not a good news story. This is a people are dying story. This is a life-or-death story," San Juan Mayor Carmen Yulín Cruz said on CNN. "When you have to pull people down from their buildings - I'm sorry, but that really upsets me and frustrates me. You know, I would ask her to come down here and visit the towns, and then make a statement like that which frankly it is an irresponsible statement."


Between these articles and what I've heard from Carmen Cruz on TV interviews, I can't imagine her anger and her irritation.

I wonder if it's possible for US territories to decide to just leave and join Mexico or something.
 
2017-09-29 04:28:43 PM  

TheDarkSaintOfGin: kevlar51: This isn't very fair to Hurricane Katrina.

Hell this isn't fair to Bush's response to Katrina


Trump's response to Puerto Rico is making Dubya look like he personally dove head first into the flooded streets of New Orleans and single-handedly rescued an entire orphanage.
 
2017-09-29 04:29:18 PM  

etoof: McCain was born in PR, wasn't he?


Panama Canal Zone
 
2017-09-29 04:30:00 PM  
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This is Trump's Katrina.
 
2017-09-29 04:30:13 PM  

etoof: Muta: TheDarkSaintOfGin: kevlar51: This isn't very fair to Hurricane Katrina.

Hell this isn't fair to Bush's response to Katrina

It took Bush 4  days or so but things got going.  Trump is still at the "Playing Guitar at McCain's Birthday" phase of Bush's response.

McCain was born in PR, wasn't he? And didn't McCain torpedo a couple of Obamacare repeals? Trumplethinskin is exactly that petty.


McCain was born in the Panama Canal Zone.
 
2017-09-29 04:30:26 PM  

gunga galunga: TheDarkSaintOfGin: kevlar51: This isn't very fair to Hurricane Katrina.

Hell this isn't fair to Bush's response to Katrina

Trump's response to Puerto Rico is making Dubya look like he personally dove head first into the flooded streets of New Orleans and single-handedly rescued an entire orphanage.


Trump's response makes a ton of sense when you realize that he isn't going to help the citizens of the island.  The reasoning behind his constant talking about the island's debt is that he's going to save the debt holders by handing PR over to them.

Disaster capitalism at its finest.
 
2017-09-29 04:32:23 PM  
Maybe we should stop creating hurricanes then.

Hurricane Maria - Puerto Rico: Detail of Manmade Destruction
Youtube 0xHwttBdtQ8
 
2017-09-29 04:33:40 PM  
This is farked and unholy, even for Trump. Yes, even for Trump. Those poor people -- American people, mind you. There are many things that should not happen in America; suffering through something like this and then having a President complain that you're a burden is pretty damn near the top of the list.
 
2017-09-29 04:34:05 PM  

AurizenDarkstar: TheDarkSaintOfGin: kevlar51: This isn't very fair to Hurricane Katrina.

Hell this isn't fair to Bush's response to Katrina

True.  Compared to what this administration is not doing for PR, Bush and his head of FEMA look like goddamn MENSA candidates as far as their reaction to the aftermath of Katrina.


Good thing we didn't elect Crooked Hillary, can you imagine how awful things would be then?

Yes, imma keep saying it, because it is impossible to overemphasise how important strategic voting is. We are only living through this gottverdammt nightmare because of people who are willfully ignorant of it.

Give me just 48 votes that I allocate to my candidate as a bloc... Because if you have 52 and split 3 or 4 of them because your candidate isn't "good enough," I win every single time. The longer it takes you to realize that you MUST unify behind the candidate who shares more of your values, the longer I get to spend systematically destroying the American republic.
 
2017-09-29 04:34:53 PM  
No, this is worse.

The Bush Administration's response was inept.

The Trump administration quite clearly DGAF.
 
2017-09-29 04:35:26 PM  

AurizenDarkstar: gunga galunga: TheDarkSaintOfGin: kevlar51: This isn't very fair to Hurricane Katrina.

Hell this isn't fair to Bush's response to Katrina

Trump's response to Puerto Rico is making Dubya look like he personally dove head first into the flooded streets of New Orleans and single-handedly rescued an entire orphanage.

Trump's response makes a ton of sense when you realize that he isn't going to help the citizens of the island.  The reasoning behind his constant talking about the island's debt is that he's going to save the debt holders by handing PR over to them.

Disaster capitalism at its finest.


Winner winner, chicken dinner.
 
2017-09-29 04:35:41 PM  
Trump's self-aggrandizing aside, the aid effort for Puerto Rico is massive. It can't and nobody could, provide immediate relief for everyone suffering through that. Politicizing natural disasters is a thing now, though.
 
2017-09-29 04:36:23 PM  
Trump is never gonna give a sh*t about this. Stop trying to make him care. You're eating the poison hoping he'll die at this point.
 
2017-09-29 04:37:34 PM  
They'll get relief when, and ONLY when the people in need sign sworn affidavits that they'll vote for Trump in 2020.  The Secret Service will be there in 2020 to make sure they comply.  Else their children will be sold to American banks and debt holders.
 
2017-09-29 04:38:08 PM  

Cletus C.: Trump's self-aggrandizing aside, the aid effort for Puerto Rico is massive. It can't and nobody could, provide immediate relief for everyone suffering through that. Politicizing natural disasters is a thing now, though.


This effort is falling well short of what we have resources for and the level of effort we have applied to past disasters, such as the Haitian earthquake in 2010.
It's legitimate criticism.
 
2017-09-29 04:38:43 PM  
I'm surprised that anything is getting done with Trump and his administration walking around patting themselves and each other on the back all the time. And for numerous jobs not done.
 
2017-09-29 04:39:30 PM  
The ineptness is on the ground in PR. One example: the people organizing relief have asked city mayors to travel to San Juan to fill out paperwork in person for what relief they need. So they're asking mayors to spend fuel to drive to the capital themselves when fuel is in short supply. Another example: There's shipping containers of supplies on docks, but they can't organize transportation for those supplies.
 
2017-09-29 04:39:47 PM  

naughtyrev: etoof: McCain was born in PR, wasn't he?

Panama Canal Zone


Panama, Puerto Rico, Cuba -- brown, Spanish-speaking, suspiciously tanned folk, and not here; it's all the same.
 
2017-09-29 04:39:49 PM  

naughtyrev: etoof: McCain was born in PR, wasn't he?

Panama Canal Zone


And Panama is in the middle of two oceans. Really big water.
 
2017-09-29 04:39:53 PM  

Archidude: Cletus C.: Trump's self-aggrandizing aside, the aid effort for Puerto Rico is massive. It can't and nobody could, provide immediate relief for everyone suffering through that. Politicizing natural disasters is a thing now, though.

This effort is falling well short of what we have resources for and the level of effort we have applied to past disasters, such as the Haitian earthquake in 2010.
It's legitimate criticism.


Could it be because we were still dealing with two massive disasters in Houston and Florida?
 
2017-09-29 04:40:03 PM  

AurizenDarkstar: gunga galunga: TheDarkSaintOfGin: kevlar51: This isn't very fair to Hurricane Katrina.

Hell this isn't fair to Bush's response to Katrina

Trump's response to Puerto Rico is making Dubya look like he personally dove head first into the flooded streets of New Orleans and single-handedly rescued an entire orphanage.

Trump's response makes a ton of sense when you realize that he isn't going to help the citizens of the island.  The reasoning behind his constant talking about the island's debt is that he's going to save the debt holders by handing PR over to them.

Disaster capitalism at its finest.


100% correct.
 
2017-09-29 04:40:10 PM  
I don't really see this as Trump's Katrina...I mean, that implies that you expected the response to be good and it was a disaster...I expected it to be a disaster. Anyone paying attention for the last year or who has heard much about Trump over the last few decades probably didn't have terribly high expectations for how this would play out...
 
2017-09-29 04:40:17 PM  
Reality doesn't matter anymore. However badly things are going you just say they're going great, and that anyone who says otherwise is lying.
 
2017-09-29 04:41:42 PM  

Cletus C.: Archidude: Cletus C.: Trump's self-aggrandizing aside, the aid effort for Puerto Rico is massive. It can't and nobody could, provide immediate relief for everyone suffering through that. Politicizing natural disasters is a thing now, though.

This effort is falling well short of what we have resources for and the level of effort we have applied to past disasters, such as the Haitian earthquake in 2010.
It's legitimate criticism.

Could it be because we were still dealing with two massive disasters in Houston and Florida?


No, since the resources aren't being used for those disasters.

The hospital ship comfort was docked in Virginia, doing nothing
 
2017-09-29 04:41:45 PM  

Cletus C.: Trump's self-aggrandizing aside, the aid effort for Puerto Rico is massive. It can't and nobody could, provide immediate relief for everyone suffering through that. Politicizing natural disasters is a thing now, though.


"Trying is so hard!"

Guess we know the C stands for cuck.
 
2017-09-29 04:42:06 PM  

Lackofname: The ineptness is on the ground in PR. One example: the people organizing relief have asked city mayors to travel to San Juan to fill out paperwork in person for what relief they need. So they're asking mayors to spend fuel to drive to the capital themselves when fuel is in short supply. Another example: There's shipping containers of supplies on docks, but they can't organize transportation for those supplies.


It's not ineptness.  They are doing everything they can to put massive roadblocks up in front of these city mayors in the hope that they either won't be able to get to San Juan to fill out the paperwork, or the relief supplies they need will be useless by the time they actually get them.
 
2017-09-29 04:42:11 PM  

AurizenDarkstar: TheDarkSaintOfGin: kevlar51: This isn't very fair to Hurricane Katrina.

Hell this isn't fair to Bush's response to Katrina

True.  Compared to what this administration is not doing for PR, Bush and his head of FEMA look like goddamn MENSA candidates as far as their reaction to the aftermath of Katrina.


The special ed class in most schools can accomplish that.
 
2017-09-29 04:42:58 PM  
Katrina and The Waves - Going Down To Liverpool
Youtube MZGwY49TXWs


Trump's got the "do nothing" part down perfectly.
 
2017-09-29 04:42:58 PM  
He's going to let these people die so his developer friends can buy up the island and turn it into resorts and casinos.
 
2017-09-29 04:43:26 PM  

gunga galunga: TheDarkSaintOfGin: kevlar51: This isn't very fair to Hurricane Katrina.

Hell this isn't fair to Bush's response to Katrina

Trump's response to Puerto Rico is making Dubya look like he personally dove head first into the flooded streets of New Orleans and single-handedly rescued an entire orphanage.


Sarah Kendzior's opinion, this isn't Trump's Katrina. Trump can't even have a Katrina, we've set the bar so low that we don't expect him to respond competently to a crisis. Or even behave as a President ought to, for that matter.

"Some have deemed Maria "Trump's Katrina"-a comparison that holds in terms of disastrous relief efforts, but falters when it comes to expectation of accountability. President George W. Bush's indifference to Katrina victims and applause for failed FEMA efforts ("Brownie, you're doing a heck of a job") shocked Americans because they still expected a baseline level of competence. Footage of black New Orleans residents begging for relief jolted many white Americans into recognition of environmental racism. Bush's approval ratings plunged as Americans realized his recklessness was not limited to foreign wars, and that beneath the shimmering surface of his bubble economy lurked devastating race-based poverty.

"Under Trump, Americans have lost a lot-civil rights, environment protections, perhaps our sovereignty-but what we have lost most is our expectation of what is normal. Trump, a president who is applauded for feats like reading off a teleprompter without being egregiously racist, is held to the lowest standard possible, yet still manages to not meet it, so the standard is continually moved to accommodate his mounting failures. After months of fending off Trump-made disasters-TrumpCare, unconstitutional executive orders, flirtations with nuclear war-few Americans expected him to handle a natural disaster or express empathy for those hurt by it. Fewer expected that Trump would grant Puerto Rico, a territory of mostly non-white, Spanish-speaking U.S. citizens, the same respect as a U.S. state.

"Trump's heartlessness still has the capacity to shock, but it does not surprise. Hurricane Maria is not Trump's Katrina: It's just Trump being Trump, the presidency its own existential threat. That it is reasonable to expect so little from a president is its own tragedy, but that should not stop people from demanding more."


Link
 
2017-09-29 04:43:38 PM  
Old and busted: "helluva job, Brownie." New hotness: "good news story."
 
2017-09-29 04:43:42 PM  
And another thing. Look at Trump's handling of PR. Now, imagine these masterminds planning a war with Iran.
 
2017-09-29 04:44:06 PM  

PanicMan: He's going to let these people die so his developer friends can buy up the island and turn it into resorts and casinos.


fuel the whole thing with tons of coal!
 
2017-09-29 04:44:07 PM  
 
2017-09-29 04:44:25 PM  

Lackofname: No, this is worse.

The Bush Administration's response was inept.

The Trump administration quite clearly DGAF.



You know, I don't think he cares but I really don't think the response to these storms is because of that. I think he REALLY DOES NOT KNOW. He doesn't know what his responsibilities are. He doesn't know what he's supposed to be doing. There is no template for his job and he's so intellectually lazy that he WILL NOT learn the intricacies. He was watching the storm on FOX News like everybody else waiting to see what was going to happen and who was going to do something. He doesn't know that HE'S the someone who needs to be making disaster plans. He wishes that he could have left THIS part of the job with Obama. He's good with the talking about shiat and signing shiat but the actual work? He could live without it.
 
2017-09-29 04:44:36 PM  
Trump really is doing a bang-up job on his George W. Bush rehabilitation project.
 
2017-09-29 04:45:47 PM  
Anyways...

What the fark was Trump talking about when he said something to the effect of we've done great work with all the deaths?!
 
2017-09-29 04:45:50 PM  

JulieAzel626: Threadjack... Tom Price gone!

https://mobile.twitter.com/AP_Politics/status/913866047819796482


Meh. Trump will just appoint another rich asshole who will misuse the office for his own gain.
 
2017-09-29 04:45:57 PM  

Cletus C.: Archidude: Cletus C.: Trump's self-aggrandizing aside, the aid effort for Puerto Rico is massive. It can't and nobody could, provide immediate relief for everyone suffering through that. Politicizing natural disasters is a thing now, though.

This effort is falling well short of what we have resources for and the level of effort we have applied to past disasters, such as the Haitian earthquake in 2010.
It's legitimate criticism.

Could it be because we were still dealing with two massive disasters in Houston and Florida?


And meanwhile the Dotard in Chief was busy tweeting about football players taking a knee. He clearly had his priorities in order.
 
2017-09-29 04:48:18 PM  
If Puerto Rico wasn't' surrounded by all that big water, it wouldn't have this problem.
 
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