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2017-09-22 03:56:09 PM  
Isn't the Hill Republican leaning?

Is this just psych warfare to get the Democrats fighting and hope the progressives stay home so even if Dems win it will be moderate Democrats(Republicans who don't hate gays and women)
 
2017-09-22 04:05:53 PM  
"If a voter has a choice between a Republican and a Democrat who acts like a Republican, he'll vote for the Republican every time." -- Harry Truman.

/Time to stop that shiat, k?
 
2017-09-22 04:10:02 PM  
Moderate how? Socially? Fiscally?
 
2017-09-22 05:09:37 PM  
In districts held by Republicans. But don't let me stop your faux outrage submitter.
 
2017-09-22 05:09:55 PM  

spongeboob: Isn't the Hill Republican leaning?

Is this just psych warfare to get the Democrats fighting and hope the progressives stay home so even if Dems win it will be moderate Democrats(Republicans who don't hate gays and women)


McCain virtually kills the latest "Death to the ACA" bill and Manafort is about to have his nuts chopped off.

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Shields! Shields!

/Subby's rationale, summed up.
 
2017-09-22 05:47:02 PM  
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2017-09-22 06:07:32 PM  
Rep. Kurt Schrader (D-Ore.), a Blue Dog member

A couple of miles to the east and I'd be in this tool's district.
 
2017-09-22 06:17:45 PM  

Clutch2013: spongeboob: Isn't the Hill Republican leaning?

Is this just psych warfare to get the Democrats fighting and hope the progressives stay home so even if Dems win it will be moderate Democrats(Republicans who don't hate gays and women)

McCain virtually kills the latest "Death to the ACA" bill and Manafort is about to have his nuts chopped off.

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Shields! Shields!

/Subby's rationale, summed up.


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Our friends who love mothers will have a busy weekend.
 
2017-09-22 06:18:07 PM  

spongeboob: Isn't the Hill Republican leaning?


Since when?  I've always seem them as firmly center-left.
 
2017-09-22 06:21:00 PM  
Meh. In "Republican-leaning districts, some in areas Trump won by a double-digit margin."

So ... (wanking motion)

If they think being slightly less stupid than Republicans will win elections there, fine. (shrug)
 
2017-09-22 06:22:22 PM  

GoldSpider: spongeboob: Isn't the Hill Republican leaning?

Since when?  I've always seem them as firmly center-left.


The Hill is generally rated as more conservative than Politico.

The strategy as described in TFH isn't automatically wrong. All politics is local. The point is that you can't run as a progressive liberal where progressive liberals are a minority. You're going to lose. If the middle is a bit on the right, then you can't go so far left as to lose the middle. You have to try to peel off enough of the middle to win, otherwise you might as well concede the race before it starts.
 
2017-09-22 06:23:07 PM  
This may shock you, but there aren't enough progressives in Republican held districts to elect a ideologically pure liberal.  That doesn't mean they need to be Republican-light, but they need to be center-left enough to pick up Republicans that are disenchanted with Trump.  It definitely doesn't mean they go after Trumpers.  That's a fool's gambit, and that candidate deserves to lose any and all progressives for that shiat.

That said, progressives should realize perfect is the enemy of good.
 
2017-09-22 06:25:50 PM  

Summoner101: This may shock you, but there aren't enough progressives in Republican held districts to elect a ideologically pure liberal.  That doesn't mean they need to be Republican-light, but they need to be center-left enough to pick up Republicans that are disenchanted with Trump.  It definitely doesn't mean they go after Trumpers.  That's a fool's gambit, and that candidate deserves to lose any and all progressives for that shiat.

That said, progressives should realize perfect is the enemy of good.


Around here that's considered cozying up to Nazis.
 
2017-09-22 06:26:13 PM  

spongeboob: Is this just psych warfare to get the Democrats fighting and hope the progressives stay home so even if Dems win it will be moderate Democrats(Republicans who don't hate gays and women)


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2017-09-22 06:26:20 PM  

Summoner101: This may shock you, but there aren't enough progressives in Republican held districts to elect a ideologically pure liberal.  That doesn't mean they need to be Republican-light, but they need to be center-left enough to pick up Republicans that are disenchanted with Trump.  It definitely doesn't mean they go after Trumpers.  That's a fool's gambit, and that candidate deserves to lose any and all progressives for that shiat.

That said, progressives should realize perfect is the enemy of good.


Maybe you can vote for an uninspiring corporationey corporatist with a BIRDLESS podium, but I can't. I'm not saying that makes me a better person than you, but it makes me a better person than you.
 
2017-09-22 06:27:31 PM  

Smelly Pirate Hooker: Meh. In "Republican-leaning districts, some in areas Trump won by a double-digit margin."

So ... (wanking motion)

If they think being slightly less stupid than Republicans will win elections there, fine. (shrug)


Stupidity is what the people in these districts like.
 
2017-09-22 06:29:15 PM  
I'm going to enjoy these reasonable comments before the fire-eaters show up screaming about the neo-liberal boogeymen hiding in their closets.
 
2017-09-22 06:30:07 PM  
ITT: People who don't understand how coalitions work, and how you can't run Nancy Pelosi in WV or Joe Manchin in CA.
 
2017-09-22 06:30:24 PM  

stoli n coke: Summoner101: This may shock you, but there aren't enough progressives in Republican held districts to elect a ideologically pure liberal.  That doesn't mean they need to be Republican-light, but they need to be center-left enough to pick up Republicans that are disenchanted with Trump.  It definitely doesn't mean they go after Trumpers.  That's a fool's gambit, and that candidate deserves to lose any and all progressives for that shiat.

That said, progressives should realize perfect is the enemy of good.

Maybe you can vote for an uninspiring corporationey corporatist with a BIRDLESS podium, but I can't. I'm not saying that makes me a better person than you, but it makes me a better person than you.


Then I hope to see you in the future GOP led hellscape to say, "I told you so."

/unless that was sarcasm
//then well played
///hellscape slashies
 
2017-09-22 06:32:23 PM  

Summoner101: This may shock you, but there aren't enough progressives in Republican held districts to elect a ideologically pure liberal.  That doesn't mean they need to be Republican-light, but they need to be center-left enough to pick up Republicans that are disenchanted with Trump.  It definitely doesn't mean they go after Trumpers.  That's a fool's gambit, and that candidate deserves to lose any and all progressives for that shiat.

That said, progressives should realize perfect is the enemy of good.


Look, this is cool but under two conditions. First, don't blame liberals if your conservative candidates lose. Second, should there be a time when a liberal policy like single payer is actually debated in Congress they don't oppose it and perhaps even support it begrudgingly.
 
2017-09-22 06:32:29 PM  
In Republican districts, you're not going to get a fire breathing socialist elected. But you CAN get a center left, pro-labor technocrat with some charisma elected.

"Look, I know the business community is doing well, but I think they could do better. We need to support a more efficient health care system. It'll save bosses money because (insert chart picture) and it'll save employees money because (more charts). You want that! Vote for me, and I'll work to save everyone a bunch of trouble."

As long as there's enough votes to advance the agenda, give the establishment types some political cover by allowing some dissents.
 
2017-09-22 06:35:22 PM  
"Snooty liberals, who are probably gay and want to turn your kids gay, say REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE is an asshole. Well--he is. He cheats on his wife, steals money from his children, and lies to his business partners. He doesn't like dogs, is legally forbidden to carry guns in 2 states, and never votes or pays taxes. But at least he's not some kind of nerd. VOTE NOVEMBER 4 IF YOUVE GOT THE STONES FOR IT."

/he'd win
 
2017-09-22 06:38:45 PM  
Stop trying to be right-winger light. You just look like a pansy when you try but fail to bring the requisite level of hate and bloodlust.
 
2017-09-22 06:38:45 PM  

pdieten: GoldSpider: spongeboob: Isn't the Hill Republican leaning?

Since when?  I've always seem them as firmly center-left.

The Hill is generally rated as more conservative than Politico.

The strategy as described in TFH isn't automatically wrong. All politics is local. The point is that you can't run as a progressive liberal where progressive liberals are a minority. You're going to lose. If the middle is a bit on the right, then you can't go so far left as to lose the middle. You have to try to peel off enough of the middle to win, otherwise you might as well concede the race before it starts.


Tell poor people that your going to make the rich pay back the money they've stolen from them.  You'll win those double digit Republican districts.

The 1% doesn't survive the left wing equivalent of Donald Trump.  They get eaten.  What's good for the goose is good for the gander.
 
2017-09-22 06:39:09 PM  

AdmirableSnackbar: Summoner101: This may shock you, but there aren't enough progressives in Republican held districts to elect a ideologically pure liberal.  That doesn't mean they need to be Republican-light, but they need to be center-left enough to pick up Republicans that are disenchanted with Trump.  It definitely doesn't mean they go after Trumpers.  That's a fool's gambit, and that candidate deserves to lose any and all progressives for that shiat.

That said, progressives should realize perfect is the enemy of good.

Look, this is cool but under two conditions. First, don't blame liberals if your conservative candidates lose. Second, should there be a time when a liberal policy like single payer is actually debated in Congress they don't oppose it and perhaps even support it begrudgingly.


I don't have a problem with that.  Ideally, I'd prefer the candidate to be as progressive as the district/state can sustain, so the more liberals that come out to vote the more liberal the candidate can ultimately be instead of relying more and more on moderate and conservative swing voters.
 
2017-09-22 06:42:35 PM  
Because the Democrats saw how fun the Tea Party people were to deal with and want to get in on that action?
 
2017-09-22 06:45:56 PM  

GoldSpider: Summoner101: This may shock you, but there aren't enough progressives in Republican held districts to elect a ideologically pure liberal.  That doesn't mean they need to be Republican-light, but they need to be center-left enough to pick up Republicans that are disenchanted with Trump.  It definitely doesn't mean they go after Trumpers.  That's a fool's gambit, and that candidate deserves to lose any and all progressives for that shiat.

That said, progressives should realize perfect is the enemy of good.

Around here that's considered cozying up to Nazis.


Don't you ever get tired of pretending to be a victim?
 
2017-09-22 06:46:50 PM  
so bring more members in who ultimately will do one thing and one thing only. dilute a progressive agenda and give the gop people they can swing

thats a great strategy for 3rd way democrats who keep losing.
 
2017-09-22 06:47:00 PM  
If you want an actual, effective 50-state strategy, then you have to field candidates who are effective in their districts.
 
2017-09-22 06:47:21 PM  

FortyHams: Moderate how? Socially? Fiscally?


I guess it's letting people enslave only some of the non WASPs, not all of them.
 
2017-09-22 06:48:31 PM  
"DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE doesn't just think he's better than you. He actually is much smarter and a better person than you. Fresh off publishing his third bestselling memoir, with both a law degree and a Ph.D., and a multimillionaire, he and his ridiculously beautiful young wife feel called to public service and have raised 14 foster kids as well as their own photogenic twins. DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE has been actively and intelligently preparing for the responsibility and burden of public office since he was 8. Let's show that little biatch that even he doesn't always get what he wants. VOTE REPUBLICAN."
 
2017-09-22 06:48:34 PM  
Since when are a handful of DINO "Blue Dogs" the DCCC?
 
2017-09-22 06:49:04 PM  

FortyHams: Moderate how? Socially? Fiscally?


its a dog whistle for abortion basically. saying we'll kowtow on womens body autonomy for votes
 
2017-09-22 06:49:34 PM  

I created this alt just for this thread: GoldSpider: Summoner101: This may shock you, but there aren't enough progressives in Republican held districts to elect a ideologically pure liberal.  That doesn't mean they need to be Republican-light, but they need to be center-left enough to pick up Republicans that are disenchanted with Trump.  It definitely doesn't mean they go after Trumpers.  That's a fool's gambit, and that candidate deserves to lose any and all progressives for that shiat.

That said, progressives should realize perfect is the enemy of good.

Around here that's considered cozying up to Nazis.

Don't you ever get tired of pretending to be a victim?


Don't you ever get tired of arguing extremes?
 
2017-09-22 06:52:56 PM  

GoldSpider: I created this alt just for this thread: GoldSpider: Summoner101: This may shock you, but there aren't enough progressives in Republican held districts to elect a ideologically pure liberal.  That doesn't mean they need to be Republican-light, but they need to be center-left enough to pick up Republicans that are disenchanted with Trump.  It definitely doesn't mean they go after Trumpers.  That's a fool's gambit, and that candidate deserves to lose any and all progressives for that shiat.

That said, progressives should realize perfect is the enemy of good.

Around here that's considered cozying up to Nazis.

Don't you ever get tired of pretending to be a victim?

Don't you ever get tired of arguing extremes?


If wanting to treat non WASPs as human, make sure that all citizens of this nation have the opportunity to succeed, equally applying and following the rule of law  makes me an extremist,  then I will proudly claim the title of extremist.
 
2017-09-22 06:55:08 PM  

spongeboob: Isn't the Hill Republican leaning?

Is this just psych warfare to get the Democrats fighting and hope the progressives stay home so even if Dems win it will be moderate Democrats(Republicans who don't hate gays and women)


Psych warfare? Hellz no. I got this in the mail 2 days ago and called the county dems' office to raise hell

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2017-09-22 06:56:13 PM  

GoldSpider: Summoner101: This may shock you, but there aren't enough progressives in Republican held districts to elect a ideologically pure liberal.  That doesn't mean they need to be Republican-light, but they need to be center-left enough to pick up Republicans that are disenchanted with Trump.  It definitely doesn't mean they go after Trumpers.  That's a fool's gambit, and that candidate deserves to lose any and all progressives for that shiat.

That said, progressives should realize perfect is the enemy of good.

Around here that's considered cozying up to Nazis.


There's an entire thread proving you wrong, yet here you are with the same tired strawman bullshiat.
 
2017-09-22 06:56:20 PM  
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2017-09-22 07:04:20 PM  

kindms: so bring more members in who ultimately will do one thing and one thing only. dilute a progressive agenda and give the gop people they can swing

thats a great strategy for 3rd way democrats who keep losing.


Enjoy your permanent minority of ideologically pure representatives.
 
2017-09-22 07:04:56 PM  

Summoner101: stoli n coke: Summoner101: This may shock you, but there aren't enough progressives in Republican held districts to elect a ideologically pure liberal.  That doesn't mean they need to be Republican-light, but they need to be center-left enough to pick up Republicans that are disenchanted with Trump.  It definitely doesn't mean they go after Trumpers.  That's a fool's gambit, and that candidate deserves to lose any and all progressives for that shiat.

That said, progressives should realize perfect is the enemy of good.

Maybe you can vote for an uninspiring corporationey corporatist with a BIRDLESS podium, but I can't. I'm not saying that makes me a better person than you, but it makes me a better person than you.

Then I hope to see you in the future GOP led hellscape to say, "I told you so."

/unless that was sarcasm
//then well played
///hellscape slashies


I thought the "birdless" thing made it pretty obvious.
 
2017-09-22 07:07:45 PM  

I'm an Egyptian!: GoldSpider: I created this alt just for this thread: GoldSpider: Summoner101: This may shock you, but there aren't enough progressives in Republican held districts to elect a ideologically pure liberal.  That doesn't mean they need to be Republican-light, but they need to be center-left enough to pick up Republicans that are disenchanted with Trump.  It definitely doesn't mean they go after Trumpers.  That's a fool's gambit, and that candidate deserves to lose any and all progressives for that shiat.

That said, progressives should realize perfect is the enemy of good.

Around here that's considered cozying up to Nazis.

Don't you ever get tired of pretending to be a victim?

Don't you ever get tired of arguing extremes?

If wanting to treat non WASPs as human, make sure that all citizens of this nation have the opportunity to succeed, equally applying and following the rule of law  makes me an extremist,  then I will proudly claim the title of extremist.


Your belief that anyone to the right of Bernie Sanders is Hitler is what makes you an extremist.
 
2017-09-22 07:08:10 PM  

GoldSpider: I created this alt just for this thread: GoldSpider: Summoner101: This may shock you, but there aren't enough progressives in Republican held districts to elect a ideologically pure liberal.  That doesn't mean they need to be Republican-light, but they need to be center-left enough to pick up Republicans that are disenchanted with Trump.  It definitely doesn't mean they go after Trumpers.  That's a fool's gambit, and that candidate deserves to lose any and all progressives for that shiat.

That said, progressives should realize perfect is the enemy of good.

Around here that's considered cozying up to Nazis.

Don't you ever get tired of pretending to be a victim?

Don't you ever get tired of arguing extremes?


Ah yes, those terrible progressive extremists with their "the police need to stop killing brown people for doing less than white people who get brought in alive" and "easy access to clean water should be a right" and "maybe instead of spending more money on the military than the next 7 countries combined we should direct some of that money toward our crumbling infrastructure and improving our education system" and of course the horrifyingly extreme position of "freedom of religion does not mean 'make the US a Christian theocracy'."
 
2017-09-22 07:11:11 PM  

GoldSpider: I'm an Egyptian!: GoldSpider: I created this alt just for this thread: GoldSpider: Summoner101: This may shock you, but there aren't enough progressives in Republican held districts to elect a ideologically pure liberal.  That doesn't mean they need to be Republican-light, but they need to be center-left enough to pick up Republicans that are disenchanted with Trump.  It definitely doesn't mean they go after Trumpers.  That's a fool's gambit, and that candidate deserves to lose any and all progressives for that shiat.

That said, progressives should realize perfect is the enemy of good.

Around here that's considered cozying up to Nazis.

Don't you ever get tired of pretending to be a victim?

Don't you ever get tired of arguing extremes?

If wanting to treat non WASPs as human, make sure that all citizens of this nation have the opportunity to succeed, equally applying and following the rule of law  makes me an extremist,  then I will proudly claim the title of extremist.

Your belief that anyone to the right of Bernie Sanders is Hitler is what makes you an extremist.


Ok, so taking care of citizens, and treating people with respect is extremist? What, do people like me not kill enough brown people for you?
 
2017-09-22 07:11:39 PM  

I created this alt just for this thread: GoldSpider: I created this alt just for this thread: GoldSpider: Summoner101: This may shock you, but there aren't enough progressives in Republican held districts to elect a ideologically pure liberal.  That doesn't mean they need to be Republican-light, but they need to be center-left enough to pick up Republicans that are disenchanted with Trump.  It definitely doesn't mean they go after Trumpers.  That's a fool's gambit, and that candidate deserves to lose any and all progressives for that shiat.

That said, progressives should realize perfect is the enemy of good.

Around here that's considered cozying up to Nazis.

Don't you ever get tired of pretending to be a victim?

Don't you ever get tired of arguing extremes?

Ah yes, those terrible progressive extremists with their "the police need to stop killing brown people for doing less than white people who get brought in alive" and "easy access to clean water should be a right" and "maybe instead of spending more money on the military than the next 7 countries combined we should direct some of that money toward our crumbling infrastructure and improving our education system" and of course the horrifyingly extreme position of "freedom of religion does not mean 'make the US a Christian theocracy'."


Don't forget the extreme position of, "conservatives need to stop obsessing over people's genitals and just let people use the bathroom in peace, ffs."
 
2017-09-22 07:12:38 PM  

I created this alt just for this thread: GoldSpider: I created this alt just for this thread: GoldSpider: Summoner101: This may shock you, but there aren't enough progressives in Republican held districts to elect a ideologically pure liberal.  That doesn't mean they need to be Republican-light, but they need to be center-left enough to pick up Republicans that are disenchanted with Trump.  It definitely doesn't mean they go after Trumpers.  That's a fool's gambit, and that candidate deserves to lose any and all progressives for that shiat.

That said, progressives should realize perfect is the enemy of good.

Around here that's considered cozying up to Nazis.

Don't you ever get tired of pretending to be a victim?

Don't you ever get tired of arguing extremes?

Ah yes, those terrible progressive extremists with their "the police need to stop killing brown people for doing less than white people who get brought in alive" and "easy access to clean water should be a right" and "maybe instead of spending more money on the military than the next 7 countries combined we should direct some of that money toward our crumbling infrastructure and improving our education system" and of course the horrifyingly extreme position of "freedom of religion does not mean 'make the US a Christian theocracy'."


Apparently that makes you an extremist. Funny, how Republicans were espousing those views maybe 30 years ago. I guess he's happy that cops can now kill people at a whim and get away with it.
 
2017-09-22 07:13:16 PM  

stoli n coke: Summoner101: stoli n coke: Summoner101: This may shock you, but there aren't enough progressives in Republican held districts to elect a ideologically pure liberal.  That doesn't mean they need to be Republican-light, but they need to be center-left enough to pick up Republicans that are disenchanted with Trump.  It definitely doesn't mean they go after Trumpers.  That's a fool's gambit, and that candidate deserves to lose any and all progressives for that shiat.

That said, progressives should realize perfect is the enemy of good.

Maybe you can vote for an uninspiring corporationey corporatist with a BIRDLESS podium, but I can't. I'm not saying that makes me a better person than you, but it makes me a better person than you.

Then I hope to see you in the future GOP led hellscape to say, "I told you so."

/unless that was sarcasm
//then well played
///hellscape slashies

I thought the "birdless" thing made it pretty obvious.


I've known some progressives with some weird fetishes.  I was playing what I thought was the more likely scenario, but this is Fark.  Never rule out sarcasm.
 
2017-09-22 07:15:11 PM  

I created this alt just for this thread: GoldSpider: I created this alt just for this thread: GoldSpider: Summoner101: This may shock you, but there aren't enough progressives in Republican held districts to elect a ideologically pure liberal.  That doesn't mean they need to be Republican-light, but they need to be center-left enough to pick up Republicans that are disenchanted with Trump.  It definitely doesn't mean they go after Trumpers.  That's a fool's gambit, and that candidate deserves to lose any and all progressives for that shiat.

That said, progressives should realize perfect is the enemy of good.

Around here that's considered cozying up to Nazis.

Don't you ever get tired of pretending to be a victim?

Don't you ever get tired of arguing extremes?

Ah yes, those terrible progressive extremists with their "the police need to stop killing brown people for doing less than white people who get brought in alive" and "easy access to clean water should be a right" and "maybe instead of spending more money on the military than the next 7 countries combined we should direct some of that money toward our crumbling infrastructure and improving our education system" and of course the horrifyingly extreme position of "freedom of religion does not mean 'make the US a Christian theocracy'."


"Populism is the simple premise that markets need to be restrained by society and by a democratic political system. We are not socialists or communists, we are proponents of regulated capitalism and, I might add, people who have read American history." -- Molly Ivins
 
2017-09-22 07:20:38 PM  
The only real problem i have with this is that Democrats need a coherent vision they can clearly express to the electorate. We'll run anyone not a Republican who might win is not a coherent vision. It's third way triangulation nonsense.

It's not accident that Dems dominated when they were the defenders of the New Deal. And it's no accident that the GOP is winning now that they have a coherent (if evil) vision.
 
2017-09-22 07:24:00 PM  

eiger: The only real problem i have with this is that Democrats need a coherent vision they can clearly express to the electorate. We'll run anyone not a Republican who might win is not a coherent vision. It's third way triangulation nonsense.

It's not accident that Dems dominated when they were the defenders of the New Deal. And it's no accident that the GOP is winning now that they have a coherent (if evil) vision.


Srsly.

Unfortunately, the coherent vision that seems to be emerging from the dems is to be as republican as possible. They want to charm the Hillary haters and the disappointed Trumpanzees, but goddammit, going republican is *not* the way to do it.
 
2017-09-22 07:45:25 PM  

I'm an Egyptian!: GoldSpider: I'm an Egyptian!: GoldSpider: I created this alt just for this thread: GoldSpider: Summoner101: This may shock you, but there aren't enough progressives in Republican held districts to elect a ideologically pure liberal.  That doesn't mean they need to be Republican-light, but they need to be center-left enough to pick up Republicans that are disenchanted with Trump.  It definitely doesn't mean they go after Trumpers.  That's a fool's gambit, and that candidate deserves to lose any and all progressives for that shiat.

That said, progressives should realize perfect is the enemy of good.

Around here that's considered cozying up to Nazis.

Don't you ever get tired of pretending to be a victim?

Don't you ever get tired of arguing extremes?

If wanting to treat non WASPs as human, make sure that all citizens of this nation have the opportunity to succeed, equally applying and following the rule of law  makes me an extremist,  then I will proudly claim the title of extremist.

Your belief that anyone to the right of Bernie Sanders is Hitler is what makes you an extremist.

Ok, so taking care of citizens, and treating people with respect is extremist? What, do people like me not kill enough brown people for you?


It's funny that you think this is how an adult has a conversation.
 
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