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(Politico)   Looks like the Treasury Secretary isn't the only one racking up the frequent flier miles at our expense. HHS Secretary Tom Price has flown private 5 times on the taxpayer dime in just the last week. THE BEST PEOPLE   ( politico.com) divider line
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2017-09-20 01:00:23 AM  
DC to Philly.
Bus: $30
Car: $50 gas/tolls
Acela train: $240
United plane: $450
Private jet: $25k

This is why we can't have healthcare. Oh and 700 billion to the military. and tax cuts for the rich
 
2017-09-20 01:11:39 AM  
Are we talking about North Korea?
 
2017-09-20 01:21:53 AM  
Remember when the right wing media went batshiat over the false story that Michelle Obama ordered lobster for dinner?  Good times.
 
2017-09-20 02:47:46 AM  
Price, a frequent critic of federal spending who has been developing a plan for department-wide cost savings, declined to comment.

It's almost like he doesn't really care about that at all.
 
2017-09-20 02:49:24 AM  
Gotta grift while the grifting's good. And hey, if we can get some really great voter suppression going on the grifting'll stay good for a looooooooooooong time.
 
2017-09-20 02:49:53 AM  

Hobodeluxe: Remember when the right wing media went batshiat over the false story that Michelle Obama ordered lobster for dinner?  Good times.


Remember when Obama was declared "unpresidential" for wearing a tan jacket?
 
2017-09-20 02:51:05 AM  

Hobodeluxe: Remember when the right wing media went batshiat over the false story that Michelle Obama ordered lobster for dinner?  Good times.


From the right-winger family nuts that I've got, the narrative seems to say, "We can be hypocrites too, if it benefits us, because the democrats have been worse hypocrites all along, so it's okay.  In fact, they're hypocrites complaining about us being hypocrites when they're the WORSE HYPOCRITES!"

It isn't about being right with them any more, if it ever has.  Now, it's about poking out ten eyes for every eye of theirs even hypothetically poked out.  It's full-on, the-ends-justify-the-means-burn-the-mother-down time.

And it doesn't even have to be real, it just has to "feel real".  Like MIchelle's lobster.  Didn't happen, but it easily could have to their minds, therefore it did, and therefore it's okay to retaliate a hundred times worse, all the while being loud about it.

But the reality of the situation is, this is a group of profoundly shiatty, cowardly people, who want to be publically shiatty, but have to invent narratives that excuse that shiatty behavior.  Just so they can sleep at night.
 
2017-09-20 02:53:19 AM  

Hobodeluxe: DC to Philly.
Bus: $30
Car: $50 gas/tolls
Acela train: $240
United plane: $450
Private jet: $25k

This is why we can't have healthcare. Oh and 700 billion to the military. and tax cuts for the rich


Yeah, but you have to fly if you want to avoid Baltimore.
 
2017-09-20 03:05:08 AM  
F*ck Trump
F*ck his people
F*ck his voters
F*ck non-voters (unless they have a valid excuse like the GOP took away their voting rights)

This country is f*cked until real, non-gerrymandered, and non-hacked elections are put in place. I used to kinda snicker when fellow farkers said we needed UN watchdogs for our elections. Not a laughing matter anymore. But after Trump's UN speech they probably don't want to have anything to do with us.
 
2017-09-20 03:10:12 AM  

Hobodeluxe: DC to Philly.
Bus: $30
Car: $50 gas/tolls
Acela train: $240
United plane: $450
Private jet: $25k

 PRICE-LESS
 
2017-09-20 03:13:50 AM  

Hobodeluxe: DC to Philly.
Bus: $30
Car: $50 gas/tolls
Acela train: $240
United plane: $450
Private jet: $25k

This is why we can't have healthcare. Oh and 700 billion to the military. and tax cuts for the rich


That's what it costs you and I because we don't have security details associated with us...

Not that this isn't at least partly BS, but still.
 
2017-09-20 03:17:18 AM  
This is small government at work, people. It's a small circle of government workers that get to fly on private planes.

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2017-09-20 03:18:12 AM  

Smoked: Hobodeluxe: DC to Philly.
Bus: $30
Car: $50 gas/tolls
Acela train: $240
United plane: $450
Private jet: $25k

This is why we can't have healthcare. Oh and 700 billion to the military. and tax cuts for the rich

Yeah, but you have to fly if you want to avoid Baltimore.


That alone is worth the extra money.  That and not having to encounter Maryland drivers.
 
2017-09-20 03:18:58 AM  

erik-k: Hobodeluxe: DC to Philly.
Bus: $30
Car: $50 gas/tolls
Acela train: $240
United plane: $450
Private jet: $25k

This is why we can't have healthcare. Oh and 700 billion to the military. and tax cuts for the rich

That's what it costs you and I because we don't have security details associated with us...

Not that this isn't at least partly BS, but still.


He isn't the president. He doesn't need his own motorcade. Realistically, does he actually need a personal security detail 24/7? Is that normal for other cabinet level staff? And shiat, how much more would it cost for Price, two assistants, and two security people to all travel the same commercial means? Still at most a tenth the price of the chartered jet?
 
2017-09-20 03:22:18 AM  

Bloody William: erik-k: Hobodeluxe: DC to Philly.
Bus: $30
Car: $50 gas/tolls
Acela train: $240
United plane: $450
Private jet: $25k

This is why we can't have healthcare. Oh and 700 billion to the military. and tax cuts for the rich

That's what it costs you and I because we don't have security details associated with us...

Not that this isn't at least partly BS, but still.

He isn't the president. He doesn't need his own motorcade. Realistically, does he actually need a personal security detail 24/7? Is that normal for other cabinet level staff? And shiat, how much more would it cost for Price, two assistants, and two security people to all travel the same commercial means? Still at most a tenth the price of the chartered jet?


Agreed.. who would even recognize the guy?
 
2017-09-20 03:23:45 AM  

erik-k: Hobodeluxe: DC to Philly.
Bus: $30
Car: $50 gas/tolls
Acela train: $240
United plane: $450
Private jet: $25k

This is why we can't have healthcare. Oh and 700 billion to the military. and tax cuts for the rich

That's what it costs you and I because we don't have security details associated with us...

Not that this isn't at least partly BS, but still.


For the most expensive option (450$ flights).

[1-(450$ * (1HHS Sec + 2assistants + 3security)/25000$)] * 100% = 91% savings.

So it's at most 9% BS, I guess.
 
2017-09-20 03:30:02 AM  

Alphax: Bloody William: erik-k: Hobodeluxe: DC to Philly.
Bus: $30
Car: $50 gas/tolls
Acela train: $240
United plane: $450
Private jet: $25k

This is why we can't have healthcare. Oh and 700 billion to the military. and tax cuts for the rich

That's what it costs you and I because we don't have security details associated with us...

Not that this isn't at least partly BS, but still.

He isn't the president. He doesn't need his own motorcade. Realistically, does he actually need a personal security detail 24/7? Is that normal for other cabinet level staff? And shiat, how much more would it cost for Price, two assistants, and two security people to all travel the same commercial means? Still at most a tenth the price of the chartered jet?

Agreed.. who would even recognize the guy?


He was chair of the House budget committee and a representative for ten years. Some people will know who he is.
 
2017-09-20 03:34:00 AM  

UsikFark: Alphax: Bloody William: erik-k: Hobodeluxe: DC to Philly.
Bus: $30
Car: $50 gas/tolls
Acela train: $240
United plane: $450
Private jet: $25k

This is why we can't have healthcare. Oh and 700 billion to the military. and tax cuts for the rich

That's what it costs you and I because we don't have security details associated with us...

Not that this isn't at least partly BS, but still.

He isn't the president. He doesn't need his own motorcade. Realistically, does he actually need a personal security detail 24/7? Is that normal for other cabinet level staff? And shiat, how much more would it cost for Price, two assistants, and two security people to all travel the same commercial means? Still at most a tenth the price of the chartered jet?

Agreed.. who would even recognize the guy?

He was chair of the House budget committee and a representative for ten years. Some people will know who he is.


So, dozens of people?
 
2017-09-20 03:39:04 AM  

Bloody William: erik-k: Hobodeluxe: DC to Philly.
Bus: $30
Car: $50 gas/tolls
Acela train: $240
United plane: $450
Private jet: $25k

This is why we can't have healthcare. Oh and 700 billion to the military. and tax cuts for the rich

That's what it costs you and I because we don't have security details associated with us...

Not that this isn't at least partly BS, but still.

He isn't the president. He doesn't need his own motorcade. Realistically, does he actually need a personal security detail 24/7? Is that normal for other cabinet level staff? And shiat, how much more would it cost for Price, two assistants, and two security people to all travel the same commercial means? Still at most a tenth the price of the chartered jet?


Why couldn't this have been conducted via teleconference?
 
2017-09-20 03:41:04 AM  

backhand.slap.of.reason: Bloody William: erik-k: Hobodeluxe: DC to Philly.
Bus: $30
Car: $50 gas/tolls
Acela train: $240
United plane: $450
Private jet: $25k

This is why we can't have healthcare. Oh and 700 billion to the military. and tax cuts for the rich

That's what it costs you and I because we don't have security details associated with us...

Not that this isn't at least partly BS, but still.

He isn't the president. He doesn't need his own motorcade. Realistically, does he actually need a personal security detail 24/7? Is that normal for other cabinet level staff? And shiat, how much more would it cost for Price, two assistants, and two security people to all travel the same commercial means? Still at most a tenth the price of the chartered jet?

Why couldn't this have been conducted via teleconference?


Because the teleconference was wire tapped by Obama.
 
2017-09-20 03:42:42 AM  

Hobodeluxe: This is why we can't have healthcare. Oh and 700 billion to the military. and tax cuts for the rich


Because ALL Republicans love to murder people in other countries rather than deal with the health of the American citizens.  Because they are so "pro-life."

Republicans: they lie about their "Christian" morals.
Republicans: they lie about their economic "brilliance."
Republicans: they lie about not being traitors.
Republicans: they lie about not being racists.
 
2017-09-20 03:44:09 AM  

rosebud_the_sled: Hobodeluxe: This is why we can't have healthcare. Oh and 700 billion to the military. and tax cuts for the rich

Because ALL Republicans love to murder people in other countries rather than deal with the health of the American citizens.  Because they are so "pro-life."

Republicans: they lie about their "Christian" morals.
Republicans: they lie about their economic "brilliance."
Republicans: they lie about not being traitors.
Republicans: they lie about not being racists.


 You could have just shortened that to Republicans lie about everything but I understand why you didn't.
 
2017-09-20 03:46:54 AM  
Price, a frequent critic of federal spending who has been developing a plan for department-wide cost savings, declined to comment.

Of course he did. And he should be called on this every time he passes through a doorway. What an asshole.
 
2017-09-20 03:49:26 AM  

Bloody William: erik-k: Hobodeluxe: DC to Philly.
Bus: $30
Car: $50 gas/tolls
Acela train: $240
United plane: $450
Private jet: $25k

This is why we can't have healthcare. Oh and 700 billion to the military. and tax cuts for the rich

That's what it costs you and I because we don't have security details associated with us...

Not that this isn't at least partly BS, but still.

He isn't the president. He doesn't need his own motorcade. Realistically, does he actually need a personal security detail 24/7? Is that normal for other cabinet level staff? And shiat, how much more would it cost for Price, two assistants, and two security people to all travel the same commercial means? Still at most a tenth the price of the chartered jet?


We don't have all the details, but Attorney General Lynch met with Bill Clinton on the tarmac via commercial flights (for both), so there's a cabinet member who is higher up on the cabinet food chain that HHS secretary, who flew commercial, at least that one time.
 
2017-09-20 03:50:04 AM  
Remember when Republicans were actually embarrassed when administration officials misused taxpayer travel dollars?
 
2017-09-20 03:54:52 AM  

Alphax: UsikFark: Alphax: Bloody William: erik-k: Hobodeluxe: DC to Philly.
Bus: $30
Car: $50 gas/tolls
Acela train: $240
United plane: $450
Private jet: $25k

This is why we can't have healthcare. Oh and 700 billion to the military. and tax cuts for the rich

That's what it costs you and I because we don't have security details associated with us...

Not that this isn't at least partly BS, but still.

He isn't the president. He doesn't need his own motorcade. Realistically, does he actually need a personal security detail 24/7? Is that normal for other cabinet level staff? And shiat, how much more would it cost for Price, two assistants, and two security people to all travel the same commercial means? Still at most a tenth the price of the chartered jet?

Agreed.. who would even recognize the guy?

He was chair of the House budget committee and a representative for ten years. Some people will know who he is.

So, dozens of people?


Probably not a lot outside his former district and DC unless they follow the news really closely. Tom Price got some attention over his medical industry investments and their performance during his time in congress.
 
2017-09-20 04:09:03 AM  
I'm almost inclined to feel grateful toward them for it. 'Polician runs up taxpayer bill for personal luxuries' is the kind of issue you get in a normal democracy. It's nice to have something regular to be angry about for a change, rather than the latest batshiat insanity from our moran-in-chief.
 
2017-09-20 04:13:48 AM  
These stats don't mean much in isolation. How do the travel expenses of this administration compare with the previous? Or do I need to rtfa?
 
2017-09-20 05:15:17 AM  
When Trump finds out about this he is going to rip Price a new one. How dare he not charter Trump's personal plane for these trips.
 
2017-09-20 05:44:25 AM  
He flies private for "safety" reasons...

You know because he's literally trying to kill people. We saw what happened already at the softball game.

Mnuchin who has one of the most punchable, recognizable faces ever also needs to fly commercial for his safety. But more so that the peasants don't guillotine his wife, Marie Antoinette and less that some guy will knock his front teeth out...
 
2017-09-20 06:06:01 AM  
I understood why he does this.
The more money he spends on luxuries for himself, the less money is available for health care for those in need.
It's a difficult sacrifice.  But he's willing to do it to help kill off the poor.
 
2017-09-20 06:13:01 AM  
But hey, Obummer would have spent at LEAST 100x that amount so the white guy doing the same thing is A-OK.  PARTY BEFORE COUNTRY WOOOOOOOOO!!!!
 
2017-09-20 06:16:51 AM  

Hobodeluxe: DC to Philly.
Bus: $30
Car: $50 gas/tolls
Acela train: $240
United plane: $450
Private jet: $25k

This is why we can't have healthcare. Oh and 700 billion to the military. and tax cuts for the rich


fark the rich.  No, seriously.  fark.  The.  Rich.
 
2017-09-20 07:00:08 AM  

Hobodeluxe: DC to Philly.
Bus: $30
Car: $50 gas/tolls
Acela train: $240
United plane: $450
Private jet: $25k
This is why we can't have healthcare. Oh and 700 billion to the military. and tax cuts for the rich


Your logic is accurate, but wasted on Republicans. The 1% ignores it and their base doesn't get it.
 
2017-09-20 07:36:20 AM  

Hobodeluxe: DC to Philly.
Bus: $30
Car: $50 gas/tolls
Acela train: $240
United plane: $450
Private jet: $25k

This is why we can't have healthcare. Oh and 700 billion to the military. and tax cuts for the rich


Sounds like the Price....

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....is right.
 
2017-09-20 07:40:06 AM  
"It's all about the perks, if you earn them, use them..."
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2017-09-20 07:50:55 AM  

fusillade762: Price, a frequent critic of federal spending who has been developing a plan for department-wide cost savings, declined to comment.

It's almost like he doesn't really care about that at all.


That is simply untrue. Like CEOs, he cares about cutting costs that impact services for the public. He cares about cutting the costs of labor (like wages). He cares about removing anything that might be waste. Because those cuts mean better perks for the people on top.
 
2017-09-20 07:53:13 AM  
1) He charters because if he flies commercial, he might sit next to someone like John R. Preexistingcondition who will violate his safe space about his miserable healthcare crusade.

2) When was the last time he railed against wasteful government spending? Looks like June.
 
2017-09-20 07:53:41 AM  

fusillade762: Price, a frequent critic of federal spending who has been developing a plan for department-wide cost savings, declined to comment.

It's almost like he doesn't really care about that at all.


Well, his swanning around by private jet is a necessity. It's those damn poor children wanting a hot breakfast who are the REAL takers here.
 
2017-09-20 07:57:56 AM  

UsikFark: Alphax: Bloody William: erik-k: Hobodeluxe: DC to Philly.
Bus: $30
Car: $50 gas/tolls
Acela train: $240
United plane: $450
Private jet: $25k

This is why we can't have healthcare. Oh and 700 billion to the military. and tax cuts for the rich

That's what it costs you and I because we don't have security details associated with us...

Not that this isn't at least partly BS, but still.

He isn't the president. He doesn't need his own motorcade. Realistically, does he actually need a personal security detail 24/7? Is that normal for other cabinet level staff? And shiat, how much more would it cost for Price, two assistants, and two security people to all travel the same commercial means? Still at most a tenth the price of the chartered jet?

Agreed.. who would even recognize the guy?

He was chair of the House budget committee and a representative for ten years. Some people will know who he is.


Some might, sure. I didn't, and I hang out on the politics tab with all of you weirdos.

How many of you political-junkies in here saw the photo in TFA and actually recognized him?
 
2017-09-20 07:58:51 AM  

Alphax: UsikFark: Alphax: Bloody William: erik-k: Hobodeluxe: DC to Philly.
Bus: $30
Car: $50 gas/tolls
Acela train: $240
United plane: $450
Private jet: $25k

This is why we can't have healthcare. Oh and 700 billion to the military. and tax cuts for the rich

That's what it costs you and I because we don't have security details associated with us...

Not that this isn't at least partly BS, but still.

He isn't the president. He doesn't need his own motorcade. Realistically, does he actually need a personal security detail 24/7? Is that normal for other cabinet level staff? And shiat, how much more would it cost for Price, two assistants, and two security people to all travel the same commercial means? Still at most a tenth the price of the chartered jet?

Agreed.. who would even recognize the guy?

He was chair of the House budget committee and a representative for ten years. Some people will know who he is.

So, dozens of people?


Yup. Dozens of people who aren't likely to assault him in an airport, either.
 
2017-09-20 08:01:57 AM  
 
2017-09-20 08:17:08 AM  

Hobodeluxe: DC to Philly.
Bus: $30
Car: $50 gas/tolls
Acela train: $240
United plane: $450
Private jet: $25k

This is why we can't have healthcare. Oh and 700 billion to the military. and tax cuts for the rich


_____________________
Round trip on a small, shiatty beach jet :
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Charter Private Jet
 
2017-09-20 08:17:59 AM  

UsikFark: Alphax: Bloody William: erik-k: Hobodeluxe: DC to Philly.
Bus: $30
Car: $50 gas/tolls
Acela train: $240
United plane: $450
Private jet: $25k

This is why we can't have healthcare. Oh and 700 billion to the military. and tax cuts for the rich

That's what it costs you and I because we don't have security details associated with us...

Not that this isn't at least partly BS, but still.

He isn't the president. He doesn't need his own motorcade. Realistically, does he actually need a personal security detail 24/7? Is that normal for other cabinet level staff? And shiat, how much more would it cost for Price, two assistants, and two security people to all travel the same commercial means? Still at most a tenth the price of the chartered jet?

Agreed.. who would even recognize the guy?

He was chair of the House budget committee and a representative for ten years. Some people will know who he is.


And yet Senator Biden would take the train every day to work. Being recognized doesn't grant you security detail. Only the President and Vice President, major Presidential candidates, their family receive full time protection. Officials/advisors who have a known threat/target against them will receive temporary protection. But security detail is not offered to cabinet officials unless there is a current threat.
 
2017-09-20 08:29:01 AM  

UsikFark: Alphax: Bloody William: erik-k: Hobodeluxe: DC to Philly.
Bus: $30
Car: $50 gas/tolls
Acela train: $240
United plane: $450
Private jet: $25k

This is why we can't have healthcare. Oh and 700 billion to the military. and tax cuts for the rich

That's what it costs you and I because we don't have security details associated with us...

Not that this isn't at least partly BS, but still.

He isn't the president. He doesn't need his own motorcade. Realistically, does he actually need a personal security detail 24/7? Is that normal for other cabinet level staff? And shiat, how much more would it cost for Price, two assistants, and two security people to all travel the same commercial means? Still at most a tenth the price of the chartered jet?

Agreed.. who would even recognize the guy?

He was chair of the House budget committee and a representative for ten years. Some people will know who he is.


That's the best spin Fox News has on this? Very sad.
 
2017-09-20 08:44:20 AM  

carrion_luggage: GSA guy in Vegas bathtub drinking wine approves.


Are you seriously going to compare thatbuse of a farking government plane?
 
2017-09-20 08:45:09 AM  

not enough beer: carrion_luggage: GSA guy in Vegas bathtub drinking wine approves.

Are you seriously going to compare thatbuse of a farking government plane?


That to the use of
 
2017-09-20 09:11:17 AM  

powhound: F*ck Trump
F*ck his people
F*ck his voters
F*ck non-voters (unless they have a valid excuse like the GOP took away their voting rights)

This country is f*cked until real, non-gerrymandered, and non-hacked elections are put in place. I used to kinda snicker when fellow farkers said we needed UN watchdogs for our elections. Not a laughing matter anymore. But after Trump's UN speech they probably don't want to have anything to do with us.


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2017-09-20 09:41:39 AM  
Is that swamp drained quite yet?
 
2017-09-20 09:56:19 AM  

UsikFark: Alphax: UsikFark: Alphax: Bloody William: erik-k: Hobodeluxe: DC to Philly.
Bus: $30
Car: $50 gas/tolls
Acela train: $240
United plane: $450
Private jet: $25k

This is why we can't have healthcare. Oh and 700 billion to the military. and tax cuts for the rich

That's what it costs you and I because we don't have security details associated with us...

Not that this isn't at least partly BS, but still.

He isn't the president. He doesn't need his own motorcade. Realistically, does he actually need a personal security detail 24/7? Is that normal for other cabinet level staff? And shiat, how much more would it cost for Price, two assistants, and two security people to all travel the same commercial means? Still at most a tenth the price of the chartered jet?

Agreed.. who would even recognize the guy?

He was chair of the House budget committee and a representative for ten years. Some people will know who he is.

So, dozens of people?

Probably not a lot outside his former district and DC unless they follow the news really closely. Tom Price got some attention over his medical industry investments and their performance during his time in congress.


Kathleen Sebellius was secretary of HHS when Obamacare was passed.  She was one of the major public faces of it.  Not only is she better known than Tom Price, there are a lot more people with a giant reason to hate her and want to harm her.  So naturally she had lots of private jet flights, right?

The last two HHS secretaries, Sylvia Matthews Burwell and Kathleen Sebelius, flew only commercial inside the continental United States

So this is awkward.
http://theweek.com/speedreads/725715/hhs-secretary-tom-price-flown-pr​i​vate-jet-work-trips-5-times-last-week-alone
 
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