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2017-09-14 08:24:31 AM  
Wait, businesses take American Express?

/yes, I know the big places do.
 
2017-09-14 09:07:28 AM  
What about Diner's Club?
 
2017-09-14 09:34:22 AM  
I thought they called no backsies.
 
2017-09-14 09:46:52 AM  

BalugaJoe: What about Diner's Club?


Mine has the Mastercard logo on it.

/yes, really.
 
2017-09-14 10:23:16 AM  
I know Donald and his supporters feel all big and powerful, since our country has the world's largest economy, but we did not get to having the largest economy by refusing to do business with other people.  Actually, it was probably the opposite of that.  Sad to see decades of effort washed away because a bunch of white supremacist want to wave their dicks at other countries.
 
2017-09-14 10:28:18 AM  
This f*cking Discover card is useless!
 
2017-09-14 10:28:33 AM  
Looks like Sierra Leone backed down immediately and accepted a bunch of their deportees in order to escape sanctions.
 
2017-09-14 10:29:11 AM  
Goddamn Guineas.

Bunch of Papists.
 
2017-09-14 10:29:11 AM  

winedrinkingman: I know Donald and his supporters feel all big and powerful, since our country has the world's largest economy, but we did not get to having the largest economy by refusing to do business with other people.  Actually, it was probably the opposite of that.  Sad to see decades of effort washed away because a bunch of white supremacist want to wave their dicks at other countries.


Are you really supporting counties refusing to take back their own citizens who are convicted criminals here in the US?
 
2017-09-14 10:29:18 AM  

themindiswatching: Wait, businesses take American Express?

/yes, I know the big places do.


Yeah, but I wouldn't rely on it.  Wouldn't be much fun running from place to place trying to find a willing vendor just because you left your visa card at home.  No idea why I still keep an Amex card.
 
2017-09-14 10:30:08 AM  
This headline made me groan audibly
 
2017-09-14 10:30:10 AM  

BalugaJoe: What about Diner's Club?


Diner's Club was the original credit card. Creation of a American restauranteur.
 
2017-09-14 10:31:37 AM  

Sean VasDeferens: winedrinkingman: I know Donald and his supporters feel all big and powerful, since our country has the world's largest economy, but we did not get to having the largest economy by refusing to do business with other people.  Actually, it was probably the opposite of that.  Sad to see decades of effort washed away because a bunch of white supremacist want to wave their dicks at other countries.

Are you really supporting counties refusing to take back their own citizens who are convicted criminals here in the US?


Some people here reflexively attack anything the US does anymore.
 
2017-09-14 10:33:01 AM  
NTNOCN: "American Express" (1980)
Youtube ZF-U9nL9Ios
 
2017-09-14 10:34:52 AM  

Sean VasDeferens: winedrinkingman: I know Donald and his supporters feel all big and powerful, since our country has the world's largest economy, but we did not get to having the largest economy by refusing to do business with other people.  Actually, it was probably the opposite of that.  Sad to see decades of effort washed away because a bunch of white supremacist want to wave their dicks at other countries.

Are you really supporting counties refusing to take back their own citizens who are convicted criminals here in the US?


Do you really think they would be refusing if this was about convicted felons?  This is about white supremacist deporting any brown people they can find, and being convicted of an immigration related crime does not count.
 
2017-09-14 10:35:51 AM  

SirEattonHogg: themindiswatching: Wait, businesses take American Express?

/yes, I know the big places do.

Yeah, but I wouldn't rely on it.  Wouldn't be much fun running from place to place trying to find a willing vendor just because you left your visa card at home.  No idea why I still keep an Amex card.


I could be wrong (won't be the first time today) but, it seems to me that more and more vendors are accepting AmEx these days. I can't remember the last time I did business with a merchant that didn't accept AmEx.
 
2017-09-14 10:36:50 AM  

winedrinkingman: Sean VasDeferens: winedrinkingman: I know Donald and his supporters feel all big and powerful, since our country has the world's largest economy, but we did not get to having the largest economy by refusing to do business with other people.  Actually, it was probably the opposite of that.  Sad to see decades of effort washed away because a bunch of white supremacist want to wave their dicks at other countries.

Are you really supporting counties refusing to take back their own citizens who are convicted criminals here in the US?

Do you really think they would be refusing if this was about convicted felons?  This is about white supremacist deporting any brown people they can find, and being convicted of an immigration related crime does not count.


I mean, when we were just deporting felons and violent people, these countries had no problem working with us, for decades, but now all of a sudden they don't want to take back anyone?  There is only one thing that has changed, and it is who Trump and Sessions are trying to send back.
 
2017-09-14 10:37:21 AM  

LewDux: [iFrame https://www.youtube.com/embed/ZF-U9nL9Ios - 480x360]


Heh. Funnied.
 
2017-09-14 10:40:16 AM  

winedrinkingman: Sean VasDeferens: winedrinkingman: I know Donald and his supporters feel all big and powerful, since our country has the world's largest economy, but we did not get to having the largest economy by refusing to do business with other people.  Actually, it was probably the opposite of that.  Sad to see decades of effort washed away because a bunch of white supremacist want to wave their dicks at other countries.

Are you really supporting counties refusing to take back their own citizens who are convicted criminals here in the US?

Do you really think they would be refusing if this was about convicted felons?  This is about white supremacist deporting any brown people they can find, and being convicted of an immigration related crime does not count.


No, it's trolling 102, classic misdirection and goalpost moving.
He really wants someone to ask him for his source so he can pull up that one guy that was an exception and make the entire thread about that particular case. If nobody does, he might get frustrated and just start pasting the links with a very slight bit of context.
 
2017-09-14 10:42:36 AM  

BalugaJoe: What about Diner's Club?


What about Player's Club?
Telly Savalas Player's Club Card Ad from 1986
Youtube v6FQNPmJFLs
 
2017-09-14 10:43:49 AM  

Eli WhiskeyDik: SirEattonHogg: themindiswatching: Wait, businesses take American Express?

/yes, I know the big places do.

Yeah, but I wouldn't rely on it.  Wouldn't be much fun running from place to place trying to find a willing vendor just because you left your visa card at home.  No idea why I still keep an Amex card.

I could be wrong (won't be the first time today) but, it seems to me that more and more vendors are accepting AmEx these days. I can't remember the last time I did business with a merchant that didn't accept AmEx.


I come across a few online. I think their margins are so thin they can't afford it. IIRC, different classes of businesses are charged different rates to run an AMEX card. And it's higher than Visa/MC
 
2017-09-14 10:44:21 AM  
We ought to just be flying over these countries and parachuting their citizens back inside their borders. Why do we do this garbage of ASKING them to take their citizens back?
 
2017-09-14 10:44:38 AM  

winedrinkingman: Sean VasDeferens: winedrinkingman: I know Donald and his supporters feel all big and powerful, since our country has the world's largest economy, but we did not get to having the largest economy by refusing to do business with other people.  Actually, it was probably the opposite of that.  Sad to see decades of effort washed away because a bunch of white supremacist want to wave their dicks at other countries.

Are you really supporting counties refusing to take back their own citizens who are convicted criminals here in the US?

Do you really think they would be refusing if this was about convicted felons?  This is about white supremacist deporting any brown people they can find, and being convicted of an immigration related crime does not count.


Well, of course.  "Convicted criminals" is one of the dogwhistle phrases.
 
2017-09-14 10:48:39 AM  

themindiswatching: Wait, businesses take American Express?

/yes, I know the big places do.


I went to a restaurant once that only takes Amex or cash. It is on the expensive side, but it still seems weird.
 
2017-09-14 10:48:51 AM  

mrmopar5287: We ought to just be flying over these countries and parachuting their citizens back inside their borders. Why do we do this garbage of ASKING them to take their citizens back?


that requires that they allow our planes into their airspace.
 
2017-09-14 10:49:27 AM  

mrmopar5287: We ought to just be flying over these countries and parachuting their citizens back inside their borders. Why do we do this garbage of ASKING them to take their citizens back?


Heck, just fly them in as American embassador invites, then push them out the back door of the embassy.
 
2017-09-14 10:50:26 AM  

uber humper: Eli WhiskeyDik: SirEattonHogg: themindiswatching: Wait, businesses take American Express?

/yes, I know the big places do.

Yeah, but I wouldn't rely on it.  Wouldn't be much fun running from place to place trying to find a willing vendor just because you left your visa card at home.  No idea why I still keep an Amex card.

I could be wrong (won't be the first time today) but, it seems to me that more and more vendors are accepting AmEx these days. I can't remember the last time I did business with a merchant that didn't accept AmEx.

I come across a few online. I think their margins are so thin they can't afford it. IIRC, different classes of businesses are charged different rates to run an AMEX card. And it's higher than Visa/MC


Sounds about right.
 
2017-09-14 10:50:41 AM  
The U.S. Embassy in Eritrea said in a statement that it will stop issuing business and tourism visas to Eritrean nationals, with "limited exceptions." Eritrean officials were not immediately available for comment.

This is effectively meaningless.  Eritrea is one of the few countries to require an exit visa which means anybody trying to leave the country has to get government approval.  Of course, anyone who gets out of Eritrea isn't keen to go back and so the government never issues them.  This is the country that loses its soccer team every couple of years when they defect en masse at international tournaments.  Even the few pilots they have routinely fly off to Ethiopia to get the hell out of Eritrea.

The country is effectively a prison.  This is a meaningless gesture, but I suppose it satisfies the kind of geopolitical know-nothing who will scan the headline and applaud that President Trump is gettin' tough on illegals from Eritrea who come here and and steal "their" jobs.  Unemployed coal miners can finally get that Eritrean restaurant job they've been holding out for.
 
2017-09-14 10:52:17 AM  

winedrinkingman: Sean VasDeferens: winedrinkingman: I know Donald and his supporters feel all big and powerful, since our country has the world's largest economy, but we did not get to having the largest economy by refusing to do business with other people.  Actually, it was probably the opposite of that.  Sad to see decades of effort washed away because a bunch of white supremacist want to wave their dicks at other countries.

Are you really supporting counties refusing to take back their own citizens who are convicted criminals here in the US?

Do you really think they would be refusing if this was about convicted felons?  This is about white supremacist deporting any brown people they can find, and being convicted of an immigration related crime does not count.


Dude, you need help.
 
2017-09-14 10:52:35 AM  
MaudlinMutantMollusk

This f*cking Discover card is useless!

I am tired of getting mail from them... hey 5% cash back at the 3 places in the continental US that takes Discover.

Yeah no.
 
2017-09-14 10:55:49 AM  

lack of warmth: Heck, just fly them in as American embassador invites, then push them out the back door of the embassy.


That's a better idea, but why not just dump them at the airport upon arrival?
 
2017-09-14 11:03:31 AM  

winedrinkingman: I know Donald and his supporters feel all big and powerful, since our country has the world's largest economy, but we did not get to having the largest economy by refusing to do business with other people.  Actually, it was probably the opposite of that.  Sad to see decades of effort washed away because a bunch of white supremacist want to wave their dicks at other countries.


Once upon a time all that was needed was someone who was of sound mind and body. There'd be some work to do for a person like that.

These days not so much. Sending people who are denied residency back is required to keep society going as importing people to be unemployed isn't a winning strategy.
 
2017-09-14 11:06:26 AM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: This f*cking Discover card is useless!


Fry: Do you take Visa?
Salesman: Sir, Visa hasn't existed in over 500 years.
Fry: MasterCard?
Salesman: 700 years.
Fry: Discover?
Salesman: Ooh, sorry, we don't take Discover.
 
2017-09-14 11:10:44 AM  

winedrinkingman: I know Donald and his supporters feel all big and powerful, since our country has the world's largest economy, but we did not get to having the largest economy by refusing to do business with other people.  Actually, it was probably the opposite of that.  Sad to see decades of effort washed away because a bunch of white supremacist want to wave their dicks at other countries.


Thank you for the hearty laugh. I regret that I could only vote funny once.
 
2017-09-14 11:10:49 AM  
Because then we lose our embassy in that country and and we risk our embassies in other places.  The cost to the US of keeping around cheap labor vastly outweighs the cost to the US of losing influence, prestige, and leverage in negotiation.

Your genius plan gets rid of 8 guys this one time before every other country gets wise to your scheme and puts the kibosh on it.  In exchange for that, China and Russia gain more leverage in the world, and with the speed China is moving into Africa and Russia is moving into Eastern Europe and Central Asia, we can't afford to lose any influence.

Bad idea, guys.
 
2017-09-14 11:16:38 AM  
Hell, even if we're talking about genuinely convicted criminals and only convicted criminals, I still wouldn't want them back if I were the home country.  Nah, you keep the fark ups, we're good here.
 
2017-09-14 11:18:01 AM  

themindiswatching: Wait, businesses take American Express?

/yes, I know the big places do.


The big places are the only retailers who can afford to take American Express. The small businesses can not pay the cost of accepting these cards. The company charges merchants the administrative costs (plus a hefty profit). They carry the costs, not the card-holder.

My Father was refused American Express when he wanted it, so he refused American Express when they wanted him. Sorry. You snooze, you lose applies to dinosaurs as well as mice.
 
2017-09-14 11:18:24 AM  
We don't want them back. Having too much fun making new ones.
 
2017-09-14 11:20:16 AM  
What do all these countries have in common?

Well there is

* poverty
* brown skins
* semi-failed governments and states
* massive oppressed populations
*poverty. I said that one twice because I think it needs underscoring. Poverty.

What I tell you three times is true.
 
2017-09-14 11:20:22 AM  
I recently got a scam phone call:

Caller (terse tone):  You received a repayment offer from the Visa Mastercard Discover company last month.  Did you accept the offer?
Me: No, I never received any offer, and also, those are three different companies.
Caller: No they aren't!
Me:  And also, those companies don't actually lend any money, banks who use their cards lend the money.
Caller: (short pause) The Visa Mastercard Discover Company ....
Me (interrupting):  Doesn't exist.  I know, because I work for one of them.
Caller (authoritatively):  No you don't.
Me: click

/Worst Argument Clinic ever
 
2017-09-14 11:22:27 AM  

SuburbanCowboy: BalugaJoe: What about Diner's Club?

What about Player's Club?
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2017-09-14 11:23:30 AM  

SirEattonHogg: themindiswatching: Wait, businesses take American Express?

/yes, I know the big places do.

Yeah, but I wouldn't rely on it.  Wouldn't be much fun running from place to place trying to find a willing vendor just because you left your visa card at home.  No idea why I still keep an Amex card.


Because you Don't Leave Home Without It.
 
2017-09-14 11:24:23 AM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: This f*cking Discover card is useless!


They issued me a card with a five-figure credit limit. Then they offered really cheap balance transfers.

The account is nearly maxed out, but I have never used the card.
 
2017-09-14 11:24:42 AM  
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2017-09-14 11:25:52 AM  
Just fly these deportees to their country of origin on American Airlines. They'll never want to come back.
/flying American today
//farking miserable
 
2017-09-14 11:28:09 AM  

trappedspirit: SuburbanCowboy: BalugaJoe: What about Diner's Club?

What about Player's Club?
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what about...
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A freaking classic.
 
2017-09-14 11:53:02 AM  

winedrinkingman: I know Donald and his supporters feel all big and powerful, since our country has the world's largest economy, but we did not get to having the largest economy by refusing to do business with other people.  Actually, it was probably the opposite of that.  Sad to see decades of effort washed away because a bunch of white supremacist want to wave their dicks at other countries.


LoL, good one. :)
 
2017-09-14 11:54:42 AM  
All I've got is a card for Chalmer's Big and Tall men's shop. It's a seven outlet chain in the pacific northwest. Great stuff. Unfortunatly, it does us no good here.
 
2017-09-14 12:06:01 PM  

winedrinkingman: I know Donald and his supporters feel all big and powerful, since our country has the world's largest economy, but we did not get to having the largest economy by refusing to do business with other people.  Actually, it was probably the opposite of that.  Sad to see decades of effort washed away because a bunch of white supremacist want to wave their dicks at other countries.


No one but your friends are in favor of open borders. Get over it. We have a right to say yes or no to the people we let in, but don't let that get in the way of your ZOMG NAZIS narrative.
 
2017-09-14 12:17:49 PM  

To The Escape Zeppelin!: Looks like Sierra Leone backed down immediately and accepted a bunch of their deportees in order to escape sanctions.

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2017-09-14 12:20:09 PM  

brantgoose: themindiswatching: Wait, businesses take American Express?

/yes, I know the big places do.

The big places are the only retailers who can afford to take American Express. The small businesses can not pay the cost of accepting these cards. The company charges merchants the administrative costs (plus a hefty profit). They carry the costs, not the card-holder.

My Father was refused American Express when he wanted it, so he refused American Express when they wanted him. Sorry. You snooze, you lose applies to dinosaurs as well as mice.


Also, it used to take a really long time for Amex to process payments to merchants.
 
2017-09-14 12:23:04 PM  
The crops are all in
And the peaches are rotting
The oranges piled up
In their creosote dumps
You're flying 'em back
To the Mexican border
To spend all their money
To wade back again
Good bye to my Juan
Goodbye Rosalita
Adios mis amigos Jesus why Maria
You won't have a name
When you ride the big airplane
All they will call you
Will be "deportees"
Some of us are illegal
And others not wanted
Our work contract's up
And we have to move on
Six hundred miles to that Mexican border
They chase us like outlaws
Like rustlers, like thieves
Good bye to my Juan
Goodbye Rosalita
Adios mis amigos Jesus why Maria
You won't have a name
When you ride the big airplane
All they will call you
Will be "deportees"
The skyplane caught fire
Over Los Gatos Canyon
A fireball of lightning
Shook all our hills
Who are all these friends
Who are scattered like dried leaves
The radio said
They were just "deportees"
Good bye to my Juan
Goodbye Rosalita
Adios mis amigos Jesus why Maria
You won't have a name
When you ride the big airplane
All they will call you
Will be "deportees"
 
2017-09-14 12:23:11 PM  

DarkVader: winedrinkingman: Sean VasDeferens: winedrinkingman: I know Donald and his supporters feel all big and powerful, since our country has the world's largest economy, but we did not get to having the largest economy by refusing to do business with other people.  Actually, it was probably the opposite of that.  Sad to see decades of effort washed away because a bunch of white supremacist want to wave their dicks at other countries.

Are you really supporting counties refusing to take back their own citizens who are convicted criminals here in the US?

Do you really think they would be refusing if this was about convicted felons?  This is about white supremacist deporting any brown people they can find, and being convicted of an immigration related crime does not count.

Well, of course.  "Convicted criminals" is one of the dogwhistle phrases.


You mean it's code for something? Like dogwhistle is code for "I have no evidence but I'm calling you a racist for daring to disagree with me."
 
2017-09-14 12:28:07 PM  

bighairyguy: I recently got a scam phone call:

Caller (terse tone):  You received a repayment offer from the Visa Mastercard Discover company last month.  Did you accept the offer?
Me: No, I never received any offer, and also, those are three different companies.
Caller: No they aren't!
Me:  And also, those companies don't actually lend any money, banks who use their cards lend the money.
Caller: (short pause) The Visa Mastercard Discover Company ....
Me (interrupting):  Doesn't exist.  I know, because I work for one of them.
Caller (authoritatively):  No you don't.
Me: click

/Worst Argument Clinic ever


They need to step up their game.  The clever one I get is. "Hi! I'm calling from the your local cable provider and I...."
 
2017-09-14 12:32:26 PM  
So for those that support people illegally entering the US, when you travel abroad, do you do it legally or do you just sneak in to other countries? Since you don't seem to believe a country has the right to say say who comes in, why do you go through the expense (passport, visa, etc) when traveling?
 
2017-09-14 12:34:15 PM  

Prince George: DarkVader: winedrinkingman: Sean VasDeferens: winedrinkingman: I know Donald and his supporters feel all big and powerful, since our country has the world's largest economy, but we did not get to having the largest economy by refusing to do business with other people.  Actually, it was probably the opposite of that.  Sad to see decades of effort washed away because a bunch of white supremacist want to wave their dicks at other countries.

Are you really supporting counties refusing to take back their own citizens who are convicted criminals here in the US?

Do you really think they would be refusing if this was about convicted felons?  This is about white supremacist deporting any brown people they can find, and being convicted of an immigration related crime does not count.

Well, of course.  "Convicted criminals" is one of the dogwhistle phrases.

You mean it's code for something? Like dogwhistle is code for "I have no evidence but I'm calling you a racist for daring to disagree with me."


Just in case nobody read the article - it never mentioned the words "felon" or "convicted criminals" anywhere.  And even if it had, without going into more detail of what they were convicted OF, it's hard to say much about it, since illegal immigration by itself is a felony, so calling a deportee a "felon" or "convicted criminal" doesn't mean much as their immigration status alone could be where that comes from.
Given that many of these countries are either in civil war or have regimes that routinely conscript citizens into their military or murder them outright, it seems rational (if not legal) that someone who can get out would try to do so under the justification of "I don't want to die".
 
2017-09-14 12:42:16 PM  

winedrinkingman: Sean VasDeferens: winedrinkingman: I know Donald and his supporters feel all big and powerful, since our country has the world's largest economy, but we did not get to having the largest economy by refusing to do business with other people.  Actually, it was probably the opposite of that.  Sad to see decades of effort washed away because a bunch of white supremacist want to wave their dicks at other countries.

Are you really supporting counties refusing to take back their own citizens who are convicted criminals here in the US?

Do you really think they would be refusing if this was about convicted felons?  This is about white supremacist deporting any brown people they can find, and being convicted of an immigration related crime does not count.


Detecting large amounts of troll dung in this post...
 
2017-09-14 12:45:47 PM  

mrmopar5287: lack of warmth: Heck, just fly them in as American embassador invites, then push them out the back door of the embassy.

That's a better idea, but why not just dump them at the airport upon arrival?


Get them past airport security before turning them loose on the street.
 
2017-09-14 12:47:56 PM  

starsrift: winedrinkingman: Sean VasDeferens: winedrinkingman: I know Donald and his supporters feel all big and powerful, since our country has the world's largest economy, but we did not get to having the largest economy by refusing to do business with other people.  Actually, it was probably the opposite of that.  Sad to see decades of effort washed away because a bunch of white supremacist want to wave their dicks at other countries.

Are you really supporting counties refusing to take back their own citizens who are convicted criminals here in the US?

Do you really think they would be refusing if this was about convicted felons?  This is about white supremacist deporting any brown people they can find, and being convicted of an immigration related crime does not count.

No, it's trolling 102, classic misdirection and goalpost moving.
He really wants someone to ask him for his source so he can pull up that one guy that was an exception and make the entire thread about that particular case. If nobody does, he might get frustrated and just start pasting the links with a very slight bit of context.


Next he'll say misdemeanors don't count, then it will be only some felonies count, then it turns out he's just mashing it.
 
2017-09-14 12:48:37 PM  

cefm: since illegal immigration by itself is a felony


Not it isn't. It needs to be, and it was proposed in the comprehensive immigration bill during the Bush Administration, but there was so much wailing and howling that it was taken out of the bill.
 
2017-09-14 12:51:05 PM  

mrmopar5287: We ought to just be flying over these countries and parachuting their citizens back inside their borders. Why do we do this garbage of ASKING them to take their citizens back?


If you cat/dog/child/dementia riddled parent wanders into my yard, would you want me to return them to your home, or just drop them in downtown Chicago?

If the U.S. found Pedro the Child-raping Taco maker, would you feel any remorse dropping him off at some random Mexican school because we were too lazy to find out where people are going? Logistics is a thing. Maybe empathy.
 
2017-09-14 12:54:37 PM  

AppleOptionEsc: mrmopar5287: We ought to just be flying over these countries and parachuting their citizens back inside their borders. Why do we do this garbage of ASKING them to take their citizens back?

If you cat/dog/child/dementia riddled parent wanders into my yard, would you want me to return them to your home, or just drop them in downtown Chicago?

If the U.S. found Pedro the Child-raping Taco maker, would you feel any remorse dropping him off at some random Mexican school because we were too lazy to find out where people are going? Logistics is a thing. Maybe empathy.


If I told you to come pick up your cat/dog/child/dementia riddled parent and you refused to do so (and I even offered to bring them to you so long as you meet me to pick them up), then yeah, I'm just going to drop them off wherever. This is a YOU problem.

Same for Pedro. If we tell you to meet us at a border and pick him up, and you refuse to do so, that's a YOU problem if we just drop him wherever.
 
2017-09-14 12:56:34 PM  

Prince George: bighairyguy: I recently got a scam phone call:

Caller (terse tone):  You received a repayment offer from the Visa Mastercard Discover company last month.  Did you accept the offer?
Me: No, I never received any offer, and also, those are three different companies.
Caller: No they aren't!
Me:  And also, those companies don't actually lend any money, banks who use their cards lend the money.
Caller: (short pause) The Visa Mastercard Discover Company ....
Me (interrupting):  Doesn't exist.  I know, because I work for one of them.
Caller (authoritatively):  No you don't.
Me: click

/Worst Argument Clinic ever

They need to step up their game.  The clever one I get is. "Hi! I'm calling from the your local cable provider and I...."


I like the ones where I won a free cruise and then they require me to put down a deposit.  I then argue with them about what "free" means.
 
2017-09-14 12:59:03 PM  

pdieten: MaudlinMutantMollusk: This f*cking Discover card is useless!

They issued me a card with a five-figure credit limit. Then they offered really cheap balance transfers.

The account is nearly maxed out, but I have never used the card.


Little known secret (apparently), if the business accepts diner's club, they have to accept discover.  I got a discover card on a lark and haven't any business that doesn't accept it.
 
2017-09-14 01:03:15 PM  

BalugaJoe: What about Diner's Club?


I don't think there are any cards that are only Diner's Club.  Discover owns them, Mastercard has the North American Franchise, Bank of Montreal apparently issues them.

My Discover Card has a Diner's Club logo on the back.
 
2017-09-14 01:10:50 PM  

Hospitaller: pdieten: MaudlinMutantMollusk: This f*cking Discover card is useless!

They issued me a card with a five-figure credit limit. Then they offered really cheap balance transfers.

The account is nearly maxed out, but I have never used the card.

Little known secret (apparently), if the business accepts diner's club, they have to accept discover.  I got a discover card on a lark and haven't any business that doesn't accept it.


Even further, in the US at least, Discover acceptance also means you're required to accept JCB and UnionPay.  They have reciprocal agreements in Japan and China wherein merchants that take JCB and UnionPay are supposed to take Discover.
 
2017-09-14 01:29:18 PM  

Sean VasDeferens: convicted criminals


I'm not sure why, but my dog just showed up at my office.

/I got a dog two days ago, and I'm still getting a kick out of saying 'my dog'
 
2017-09-14 01:32:13 PM  

mrmopar5287: cefm: since illegal immigration by itself is a felony

Not it isn't. It needs to be, and it was proposed in the comprehensive immigration bill during the Bush Administration, but there was so much wailing and howling that it was taken out of the bill.


Returning after being deported previously is a crime though. 40% of US deportations are for people who have already been previously deported at least once.
 
2017-09-14 02:03:32 PM  

ShonenBat: No one but your friends are in favor of open borders. Get over it. We have a right to say yes or no to the people we let in, but don't let that get in the way of your ZOMG NAZIS narrative.



Bingo.

My Dad and Grandparents came to the U.S. legally, so I'm not exactly in favor of people who "cut in line".
 
2017-09-14 02:21:14 PM  

cefm: Prince George: DarkVader: winedrinkingman: Sean VasDeferens: winedrinkingman: I know Donald and his supporters feel all big and powerful, since our country has the world's largest economy, but we did not get to having the largest economy by refusing to do business with other people.  Actually, it was probably the opposite of that.  Sad to see decades of effort washed away because a bunch of white supremacist want to wave their dicks at other countries.

Are you really supporting counties refusing to take back their own citizens who are convicted criminals here in the US?

Do you really think they would be refusing if this was about convicted felons?  This is about white supremacist deporting any brown people they can find, and being convicted of an immigration related crime does not count.

Well, of course.  "Convicted criminals" is one of the dogwhistle phrases.

You mean it's code for something? Like dogwhistle is code for "I have no evidence but I'm calling you a racist for daring to disagree with me."

Just in case nobody read the article - it never mentioned the words "felon" or "convicted criminals" anywhere.  And even if it had, without going into more detail of what they were convicted OF, it's hard to say much about it, since illegal immigration by itself is a felony, so calling a deportee a "felon" or "convicted criminal" doesn't mean much as their immigration status alone could be where that comes from.
Given that many of these countries are either in civil war or have regimes that routinely conscript citizens into their military or murder them outright, it seems rational (if not legal) that someone who can get out would try to do so under the justification of "I don't want to die".


I think you meant to say illegal immigration by itself is NOT a felony.

Because, you know, it isn't.

Visa overstay isn't even a crime.

And given that TFA says nothing about any criminal status, to use "convicted criminal" here to refer to these people is essentially saying "I'm a racist".
 
2017-09-14 02:24:42 PM  

Sean VasDeferens: winedrinkingman: I know Donald and his supporters feel all big and powerful, since our country has the world's largest economy, but we did not get to having the largest economy by refusing to do business with other people.  Actually, it was probably the opposite of that.  Sad to see decades of effort washed away because a bunch of white supremacist want to wave their dicks at other countries.

Are you really supporting counties refusing to take back their own citizens who are convicted criminals here in the US?


Deportees are not necessarily the same thing as convicted criminals. As repeatedly pointed out on Fark, it's not a criminal violation to be a resident alien without permission. It's a civil violation, not a criminal one.
 
2017-09-14 02:26:57 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: This f*cking Discover card is useless!


Discovery Card Tumi
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2017-09-14 02:30:46 PM  

uber humper: Eli WhiskeyDik: SirEattonHogg: themindiswatching: Wait, businesses take American Express?

/yes, I know the big places do.

Yeah, but I wouldn't rely on it.  Wouldn't be much fun running from place to place trying to find a willing vendor just because you left your visa card at home.  No idea why I still keep an Amex card.

I could be wrong (won't be the first time today) but, it seems to me that more and more vendors are accepting AmEx these days. I can't remember the last time I did business with a merchant that didn't accept AmEx.

I come across a few online. I think their margins are so thin they can't afford it. IIRC, different classes of businesses are charged different rates to run an AMEX card. And it's higher than Visa/MC


Back during the 80s & 90s when I was travelling often in Asia, merchants didn't want to accept Amex because it was months late in crediting their business accounts with the funds. Even though the businesses were set-up to take Amex, they would often insist on Visa or Mcard. Not sure if Amex has fixed that.
 
2017-09-14 02:36:46 PM  

Farxist Marxist: Back during the 80s & 90s when I was travelling often in Asia, merchants didn't want to accept Amex because it was months late in crediting their business accounts with the funds. Even though the businesses were set-up to take Amex, they would often insist on Visa or Mcard. Not sure if Amex has fixed that.


They hadn't at least 5-6 years ago. I used buy a lot of stuff from Asia for work and a lot of vendors wouldn't accept it for exactly the reason you said.
 
2017-09-14 02:43:52 PM  

Sean VasDeferens: winedrinkingman: I know Donald and his supporters feel all big and powerful, since our country has the world's largest economy, but we did not get to having the largest economy by refusing to do business with other people.  Actually, it was probably the opposite of that.  Sad to see decades of effort washed away because a bunch of white supremacist want to wave their dicks at other countries.

Are you really supporting counties refusing to take back their own citizens who are convicted criminals here in the US?


We're the ones with the insatiable criminal justice culture.
 
2017-09-14 02:54:19 PM  

The_Sponge: ShonenBat: No one but your friends are in favor of open borders. Get over it. We have a right to say yes or no to the people we let in, but don't let that get in the way of your ZOMG NAZIS narrative.


Bingo.

My Dad and Grandparents came to the U.S. legally, so I'm not exactly in favor of people who "cut in line".


This is extremely common. My wife works in an industry that, for some reason, draws heavily from immigrants from a geographic swath running from Eastern Europe down through South Asia. For several reasons, that group seems far more likely to pursue immigration and citizenship through legal means. And there is farking animosity towards the group that's perceived as just "jumping the fence" and then demanding rights and accommodation.
 
2017-09-14 02:59:40 PM  
Rapmaster2000: ...this is a meaningless gesture....

Politicians doing meaningless gestures to placate the public?  WTF?!?  When the hell did this start happening?
 
2017-09-14 03:05:54 PM  

DarkVader: I think you meant to say illegal immigration by itself is NOT a felony.


No, but it is a misdemeanor by itself right?  And generally, while the class of Reckless Drivers, et. al. do not consider themselves criminals, they DID perform an action that could be called...what's the phrase, "against the law"...no, illegal, that's it!

So, while the person is not an illegal immigrant (the brunt of the progressive argument) the action itself is unquestionably illegal.  Even newspapers will use "illegal immigration" while explicitly saying "undocumented immigrant."

Am I wrong?
 
2017-09-14 03:24:09 PM  

trappedspirit: SuburbanCowboy: BalugaJoe: What about Diner's Club?

What about Player's Club?
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what about...
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awesome
 
2017-09-14 03:27:21 PM  
They're called "illegals" so as to not lump them in with criminals that are criminals because they commit a crime.  Illegals are illegals by virtue of just existence and not criminal activity.  It's actually a compliment.
 
2017-09-14 04:19:42 PM  
I wonder what the deal is with Cambodia.  They've been taking back persons of Cambodian nationality deported from the US since atleast the Obama years.  It's been sort of a big deal as many of those deported were the children of refugees from the 1970's and 80's - some of whom hadn't been back in Cambodia since they were a few years old (if that) and couldn't speak any Cambodian.  I assume the children were green card holders but if you commit any crime during that period you run the risk of being deported back to your home country.  Similar program the US has been running with El Salvador.  Seems Cambodia must have stopped taking back people.
 
2017-09-14 04:36:23 PM  
The most 'Murrrican Mastercard there is.

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2017-09-14 04:53:12 PM  

Prince George: You mean it's code for something?


It's one of the Stormfront/general neo-Nazi code phrases of all non-white people, yes.  The fact that it actually has a real meaning that confuses the hell out of the issue either makes it a really good code-phrase or a really bad one... the Nazis probably think it's a good one since no one can tell when they're using it oftentimes.

Albeit, in cases like this, where we're talking about deportees and neither "convicted" nor "criminal" actually applies (it's a civil offense that doesn't require a verdict, just a court order in most cases), it's a little bit more obvious that the person talking is a Stormfronter trying to sneak in a code phrase or two.  Like someone just jumping up in the middle of a cafeteria and shouting "14/88" instead of slipping it into an online username or whatever.  There being absolutely no context in which the literal meaning could apply kind of makes the racist call-to-arms a bit less sneaky, y'know?
 
2017-09-14 06:19:14 PM  

trappedspirit: They're called "illegals" so as to not lump them in with criminals that are criminals because they commit a crime.  Illegals are illegals by virtue of just existence and not criminal activity.  It's actually a compliment.


If they're in a country illegally, they're trespassing.  Granted not a crime that should follow them like a violent felony.  Just they're not where they're allowed to be, and they're being escorted out.
 
2017-09-14 06:40:32 PM  

lack of warmth: trappedspirit: They're called "illegals" so as to not lump them in with criminals that are criminals because they commit a crime.  Illegals are illegals by virtue of just existence and not criminal activity.  It's actually a compliment.

If they're in a country illegally, they're trespassing.  Granted not a crime that should follow them like a violent felony.  Just they're not where they're allowed to be, and they're being escorted out.


What about non-violent felonies?

"The vast majority of illegal aliens use fraudulently obtained Social Security numbers.  They possess fake drivers' licenses, phony "green cards," fraudulent birth certificates and any other documents that U.S. citizens and legal residents have.  In addition, they falsify I-9 forms under penalty of perjury. Thus, the average illegal alien routinely commits multiple felonies -forgery, Social Security fraud, identity theft, and perjury.

This criminal activity is routinely swept under the rug in order to protect the myth of the law abiding illegal alien. However, when pushed, even the strongest supporters of illegal aliens are forced to acknowledge that the vast majority of illegal aliens commit multiple felonies. In fact, the Social Security Administration and New York Times report that approximately 75 percent of illegal aliens have fraudulently obtained Social Security numbers which is a felony. The ACLU accepts this figure and uses it to show that illegal aliens pay payroll taxes.

Furthermore, the Los Angeles Times reports that up to 8 million of 11.1 million (72 percent) illegal aliens commit job-related felonies. La Raza says that illegal aliens contribute $15 billion annually in Social Security payments through payroll taxes [by using illegally obtained Social Security numbers - felony]."



And "no one" cares... until they discover that 15 other people are using their SSN.
 
2017-09-14 08:37:47 PM  

BigNumber12: lack of warmth: trappedspirit: They're called "illegals" so as to not lump them in with criminals that are criminals because they commit a crime.  Illegals are illegals by virtue of just existence and not criminal activity.  It's actually a compliment.

If they're in a country illegally, they're trespassing.  Granted not a crime that should follow them like a violent felony.  Just they're not where they're allowed to be, and they're being escorted out.

What about non-violent felonies?

"The vast majority of illegal aliens use fraudulently obtained Social Security numbers.  They possess fake drivers' licenses, phony "green cards," fraudulent birth certificates and any other documents that U.S. citizens and legal residents have.  In addition, they falsify I-9 forms under penalty of perjury. Thus, the average illegal alien routinely commits multiple felonies -forgery, Social Security fraud, identity theft, and perjury.

This criminal activity is routinely swept under the rug in order to protect the myth of the law abiding illegal alien. However, when pushed, even the strongest supporters of illegal aliens are forced to acknowledge that the vast majority of illegal aliens commit multiple felonies. In fact, the Social Security Administration and New York Times report that approximately 75 percent of illegal aliens have fraudulently obtained Social Security numbers which is a felony. The ACLU accepts this figure and uses it to show that illegal aliens pay payroll taxes.

Furthermore, the Los Angeles Times reports that up to 8 million of 11.1 million (72 percent) illegal aliens commit job-related felonies. La Raza says that illegal aliens contribute $15 billion annually in Social Security payments through payroll taxes [by using illegally obtained Social Security numbers - felony]."


And "no one" cares... until they discover that 15 other people are using their SSN.


What is your point exactly?  I simply stated illegal immigrants are committing a crime of trespassing.  I'm not going to sugar coat illegal immigrants aren't breaking some kind of law.  Not every illegal immigrant tried to obey laws after that like the media portrays, but I'm not digging that deep.  Take your rant somewhere else.
 
2017-09-14 08:52:11 PM  

winedrinkingman: I know Donald and his supporters feel all big and powerful, since our country has the world's largest economy, but we did not get to having the largest economy by refusing to do business with other people.  Actually, it was probably the opposite of that.  Sad to see decades of effort washed away because a bunch of white supremacist want to wave their dicks at other countries.


Are you an idiot? These countries refuse to take convicted felons back. They don't want these people, their citizens, because they are terrible people. We should just accept all the world's felons? Did you read before you posted?
 
2017-09-14 09:17:18 PM  

lack of warmth: What is your point exactly?  I simply stated illegal immigrants are committing a crime of trespassing.  I'm not going to sugar coat illegal immigrants aren't breaking some kind of law.  Not every illegal immigrant tried to obey laws after that like the media portrays, but I'm not digging that deep.  Take your rant somewhere else.


I wasn't taking aim at you. Not sure why you took that copypasta (not really a rant) personally. I was expanding on your thoughts, and addressing the very common argument (again, not yours) that illegal immigrants aren't doing anything illegal by existing. Not as such, they aren't, but for the majority, getting by in this country requires the commission of felonies, beyond the misdemeanor of "illegal entry."
 
2017-09-14 10:03:52 PM  

BigNumber12: lack of warmth: What is your point exactly?  I simply stated illegal immigrants are committing a crime of trespassing.  I'm not going to sugar coat illegal immigrants aren't breaking some kind of law.  Not every illegal immigrant tried to obey laws after that like the media portrays, but I'm not digging that deep.  Take your rant somewhere else.

I wasn't taking aim at you. Not sure why you took that copypasta (not really a rant) personally. I was expanding on your thoughts, and addressing the very common argument (again, not yours) that illegal immigrants aren't doing anything illegal by existing. Not as such, they aren't, but for the majority, getting by in this country requires the commission of felonies, beyond the misdemeanor of "illegal entry."


When you add to a thought, start off stating you're adding to it, otherwise it seems like a counterpoint.
 
2017-09-14 10:29:15 PM  

Day_Old_Dutchie: The most 'Murrrican Mastercard there is.

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Walmart prepaid/refillable AMEX.  I have one of these that I use for online purchases.


I keep the balance in the sub account so if someone steals the number they're not getting anything.
 
2017-09-14 11:12:22 PM  

lack of warmth: When you add to a thought, start off stating you're adding to it, otherwise it seems like a counterpoint.


Yeah, I'm an engineer. Structuring trains of thought isn't my strong suit.
 
2017-09-14 11:36:24 PM  

BigNumber12: lack of warmth: When you add to a thought, start off stating you're adding to it, otherwise it seems like a counterpoint.

Yeah, I'm an engineer. Structuring trains of thought isn't my strong suit.


I know that feel.  I think more like an engineer than an English major, which is obvious.
 
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