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2017-09-13 02:17:01 PM  
90 and 25 are just like, numbers, man.
 
2017-09-13 02:21:09 PM  
Pretty sure those numbers will go down once the insurance companies start sending out adjusters.
 
2017-09-13 02:21:19 PM  
To be fair, it's a very stupid place to live.
 
2017-09-13 02:23:43 PM  
The number was 25% of homes destroyed, Subby, with an additional 65% "damaged." Not to minimize the Keys residents' losses, which are undeniably catastrophic, but there's a big difference between "damaged" and "destroyed." A house that loses a few roof tiles and/or has a couple of windows broken is "damaged," but certainly isn't destroyed. Do you really not understand the difference?
 
2017-09-13 02:23:48 PM  
I wonder if I can pick up some cheap property.
 
2017-09-13 02:23:56 PM  

Prof. Frink: 90 and 25 are just like, numbers, man.


That's just rounding error, as in all the houses aren't square anymore, they're rounded off.
 
2017-09-13 02:24:25 PM  
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I'm not a mechanic, but I think I see the problem. Engine is flooded.

Shocktopus: To be fair, it's a very stupid place to live.


Depends. If I were to retire and have enough money to rent there it would be an amazing place to live. It is incredibly beautiful, and will be again after they rebuild. Stuff is just stuff.

Context matters.
 
2017-09-13 02:24:33 PM  
I love this pic.

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2017-09-13 02:25:01 PM  
Well, so much for the next season of Bloodline
 
2017-09-13 02:25:46 PM  

Shocktopus: To be fair, it's a very stupid place to live.



A great place to visit, though.

/Last trip was in 2008.
//Going next year, so I'm glad I can put some money in the local economy with scuba excursions and hefty bar tabs.
 
2017-09-13 02:26:19 PM  

jst3p: [i2.cdn.cnn.com image 780x438]

I'm not a mechanic, but I think I see the problem. Engine is flooded.

Shocktopus: To be fair, it's a very stupid place to live.

Depends. If I were to retire and have enough money to rent there it would be an amazing place to live. It is incredibly beautiful, and will be again after they rebuild. Stuff is just stuff.

Context matters.


Couldn't agree more. I've visited the keys and Key West like 5 times, the last just 18 months ago. It's a perfect place for someone who can afford it and loves that lifestyle. Count me in maybe one day but it clearly comes with risk.
 
2017-09-13 02:26:25 PM  

kendelrio: Pretty sure those numbers will go down once the insurance companies start sending out adjusters.


It's pretty amazing that an earthquake struck Key West at the same time as the hurricane. Too bad nobody had earthquake insurance.
 
2017-09-13 02:26:27 PM  
Let the.gators have it
 
2017-09-13 02:27:20 PM  

Shocktopus: I love this pic.

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Dude really looks bummed about it
 
2017-09-13 02:27:22 PM  

derpes_simplex: Well, so much for the next season of Bloodline


Hate to tell you, S3 is it...
 
2017-09-13 02:28:31 PM  

Merltech: Shocktopus: I love this pic.

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Dude really looks bummed about it


Oh, the huge manatee!
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2017-09-13 02:29:38 PM  
youdon'tsay.jpeg
 
2017-09-13 02:29:42 PM  

Cyberluddite: The number was 25% of homes destroyed, Subby, with an additional 65% "damaged." Not to minimize the Keys residents' losses, which are undeniably catastrophic, but there's a big difference between "damaged" and "destroyed." A house that loses a few roof tiles and/or has a couple of windows broken is "damaged," but certainly isn't destroyed. Do you really not understand the difference?


Subby: Wait, you said 25%? Make that 90% of Florida Keys homes destroyed, damaged by Irma

25% destroyed + 65% damaged = 90% destroyed, damaged
 
2017-09-13 02:30:13 PM  
OK, I am not a boat guy so maybe I overestimate their range, but couldn't you jump in something like this and head for Louisiana saving your boat and getting you the hell out of there while avoiding the congested highways?

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2017-09-13 02:31:31 PM  

Shocktopus: Merltech: Shocktopus: I love this pic.

[i2.cdn.cnn.com image 780x438]

Dude really looks bummed about it

Oh, the huge manatee!
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FREE MANATEE ---------->
 
2017-09-13 02:31:45 PM  
I don't understand why people were expecting to be able to return to the area so soon.  It's not logical.  There's no electricity or water.  A significant percentage of the homes are unlivable so where do they expect to sleep once they get there?  How do they expect to eat and bathe?  At least wait until basic services are restored.
 
2017-09-13 02:31:57 PM  

big pig peaches: I wonder if I can pick up some cheap property.


Not cheap but you can pick up some property. But cash is king down there - not so easy to get a bank to write you a mortgage as it is in other places and I can't imagine it;s going to get anything but more difficult. IF you can get homeowners insurance you would not like the rates. A lot of folks just self-insure. If you can only afford one house that's a tough row to hoe when there's a big storm.
 
2017-09-13 02:32:06 PM  
Fake news, Subtard!
Trump's spiritual advisor said it was "a big nothingburger"
 
2017-09-13 02:33:54 PM  
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"Dad! 4G is down again and there's no WiFi here, we're gonna die!"
 
2017-09-13 02:34:01 PM  

jst3p: OK, I am not a boat guy so maybe I overestimate their range, but couldn't you jump in something like this and head for Louisiana saving your boat and getting you the hell out of there while avoiding the congested highways?

[img.fark.net image 780x438]


You need a place to park it.  In my experience, most marinas are full with a long waiting list.
 
2017-09-13 02:34:41 PM  
25 + 65 = 90.
 
2017-09-13 02:34:55 PM  
Had to look at a map. I was hoping the Sanford Police department was in the path of the hurricane.
 
2017-09-13 02:35:07 PM  

Cyberluddite: The number was 25% of homes destroyed, Subby, with an additional 65% "damaged." Not to minimize the Keys residents' losses, which are undeniably catastrophic, but there's a big difference between "damaged" and "destroyed." A house that loses a few roof tiles and/or has a couple of windows broken is "damaged," but certainly isn't destroyed. Do you really not understand the difference?


I wonder if CNN does
 
2017-09-13 02:35:55 PM  

jst3p: OK, I am not a boat guy so maybe I overestimate their range, but couldn't you jump in something like this and head for Louisiana saving your boat and getting you the hell out of there while avoiding the congested highways?

[img.fark.net image 780x438]


Thousands of Floridians, right now: "Son of a...."
 
2017-09-13 02:36:28 PM  
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"Do you know the dangers of diabeetus?"
 
2017-09-13 02:38:42 PM  

big pig peaches: I wonder if I can pick up some cheap property.


Do you have a fishing net?
 
2017-09-13 02:39:03 PM  

jtown: jst3p: OK, I am not a boat guy so maybe I overestimate their range, but couldn't you jump in something like this and head for Louisiana saving your boat and getting you the hell out of there while avoiding the congested highways?

[img.fark.net image 780x438]

You need a place to park it.  In my experience, most marinas are full with a long waiting list.


Well, that spot looks like it will be vacant soon...
 
2017-09-13 02:40:23 PM  

jst3p: OK, I am not a boat guy so maybe I overestimate their range, but couldn't you jump in something like this and head for Louisiana saving your boat and getting you the hell out of there while avoiding the congested highways?

[img.fark.net image 780x438]


So a few things....yea for starters, range. you need to carefully chart out a trip like that in a boat that size, and stay relatively close to land as well. It also isn't something you want to try and outrun a hurricane in, because you don't have a chance in hell of weathering the seas you will encounter in one in it.

Now, there are certainly better things to do to it than leave it tied to the dock, but everyone and their brother down there has a boat, so if it isn't something you can just pull out with your trailer (if you even have a trailer) you have to get in line behind them and pony up for the marina to pull it out, and hope they get to you in time.

Alternatively you stand a slightly better chance in a storm (but not a serious hurricane) in just anchoring it  well somewhere protected and hoping it rides it out.

What probably happened in that picture is it was left tied up, the surge brought it to the end of its lines, and it swamped.

Also keep in mind lots of boat owners quickly realize they don't want a boat once the bills start coming in, but are now stuck with a loan on something that depreciates worse than a car. it going down in a storm isn't a bad way to get out of it.
 
2017-09-13 02:41:34 PM  

jst3p: [img.fark.net image 780x438]

"Do you know the dangers of diabeetus?"


Jaime, Help I've Fallen and I CAN"T GET UP!
 
2017-09-13 02:41:36 PM  

Cyberluddite: The number was 25% of homes destroyed, Subby, with an additional 65% "damaged." Not to minimize the Keys residents' losses, which are undeniably catastrophic, but there's a big difference between "damaged" and "destroyed." A house that loses a few roof tiles and/or has a couple of windows broken is "damaged," but certainly isn't destroyed. Do you really not understand the difference?


shiat, my house is damaged and I live in Massachusetts.
 
2017-09-13 02:42:27 PM  

jtown: I don't understand why people were expecting to be able to return to the area so soon.  It's not logical.  There's no electricity or water.  A significant percentage of the homes are unlivable so where do they expect to sleep once they get there?  How do they expect to eat and bathe?  At least wait until basic services are restored.


Even if you can't stay a lot of people want to get down to at least see what damage their homes sustained, if any.   There's also the potential to salvage belongings before they are destroyed by continued exposure to the elements or proximity to flood water.

I'm not a Keys resident, but I do live in SWFL in one of the places the eyewall came through.  I'd evacuated before the storm, got back late last night.  I was very lucky in that my home didn't sustain any damage, but I am without power, which is a huge PITA in Florida in September.

Driving back down I did see a lot of power crews from other states coming to help though, which I'm incredibly grateful for.  I'm trying not to biatch too much since in the grand scheme of things getting out of this with only a power outage is better than I should have expected.
 
2017-09-13 02:42:59 PM  
I love when Trumpians bring up that category 5's have happened before.  Because scientific research is claiming natural disasters weren't invented until the industrial revolution or something.
 
2017-09-13 02:43:13 PM  

jst3p: jtown: jst3p: OK, I am not a boat guy so maybe I overestimate their range, but couldn't you jump in something like this and head for Louisiana saving your boat and getting you the hell out of there while avoiding the congested highways?

[img.fark.net image 780x438]

You need a place to park it.  In my experience, most marinas are full with a long waiting list.

Well, that spot looks like it will be vacant soon...


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2017-09-13 02:43:23 PM  

AirForceVet: Cyberluddite: The number was 25% of homes destroyed, Subby, with an additional 65% "damaged." Not to minimize the Keys residents' losses, which are undeniably catastrophic, but there's a big difference between "damaged" and "destroyed." A house that loses a few roof tiles and/or has a couple of windows broken is "damaged," but certainly isn't destroyed. Do you really not understand the difference?

Subby: Wait, you said 25%? Make that 90% of Florida Keys homes destroyed, damaged by Irma

25% destroyed + 65% damaged = 90% destroyed, damaged


Yes, I know. But Subby's headline suggests that the 90% figure contradicts the 25% figure, and it doesn't. It's comparing apples (% destroyed) to oranges (% damaged or destroyed).
 
2017-09-13 02:43:55 PM  
Crap. Key West is one of my favorite places. It's disheartening to hear this.
 
2017-09-13 02:44:20 PM  

AirForceVet: Cyberluddite: The number was 25% of homes destroyed, Subby, with an additional 65% "damaged." Not to minimize the Keys residents' losses, which are undeniably catastrophic, but there's a big difference between "damaged" and "destroyed." A house that loses a few roof tiles and/or has a couple of windows broken is "damaged," but certainly isn't destroyed. Do you really not understand the difference?

Subby: Wait, you said 25%? Make that 90% of Florida Keys homes destroyed, damaged by Irma

25% destroyed + 65% damaged = 90% destroyed, damaged


If math were easy everyone would do it.
 
2017-09-13 02:45:09 PM  

The_Sponge: Shocktopus: To be fair, it's a very stupid place to live.


A great place to visit, though.

/Last trip was in 2008.
//Going next year, so I'm glad I can put some money in the local economy with scuba excursions and hefty bar tabs.


Any spots on the "must visit" list while there? Going to a music festival there in Feb next year. (If everything is back up and 100% by then.)
 
2017-09-13 02:45:37 PM  

LineNoise: jst3p: OK, I am not a boat guy so maybe I overestimate their range, but couldn't you jump in something like this and head for Louisiana saving your boat and getting you the hell out of there while avoiding the congested highways?

[img.fark.net image 780x438]

So a few things....yea for starters, range. you need to carefully chart out a trip like that in a boat that size, and stay relatively close to land as well. It also isn't something you want to try and outrun a hurricane in, because you don't have a chance in hell of weathering the seas you will encounter in one in it.

Now, there are certainly better things to do to it than leave it tied to the dock, but everyone and their brother down there has a boat, so if it isn't something you can just pull out with your trailer (if you even have a trailer) you have to get in line behind them and pony up for the marina to pull it out, and hope they get to you in time.

Alternatively you stand a slightly better chance in a storm (but not a serious hurricane) in just anchoring it  well somewhere protected and hoping it rides it out.

What probably happened in that picture is it was left tied up, the surge brought it to the end of its lines, and it swamped.

Also keep in mind lots of boat owners quickly realize they don't want a boat once the bills start coming in, but are now stuck with a loan on something that depreciates worse than a car. it going down in a storm isn't a bad way to get out of it.


Very informative, thank you.
 
2017-09-13 02:49:04 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: jtown: I don't understand why people were expecting to be able to return to the area so soon.  It's not logical.  There's no electricity or water.  A significant percentage of the homes are unlivable so where do they expect to sleep once they get there?  How do they expect to eat and bathe?  At least wait until basic services are restored.

Even if you can't stay a lot of people want to get down to at least see what damage their homes sustained, if any.   There's also the potential to salvage belongings before they are destroyed by continued exposure to the elements or proximity to flood water.

I'm not a Keys resident, but I do live in SWFL in one of the places the eyewall came through.  I'd evacuated before the storm, got back late last night.  I was very lucky in that my home didn't sustain any damage, but I am without power, which is a huge PITA in Florida in September.

Driving back down I did see a lot of power crews from other states coming to help though, which I'm incredibly grateful for.  I'm trying not to biatch too much since in the grand scheme of things getting out of this with only a power outage is better than I should have expected.


Seriously asking here, not snarking.  What was your plan if you got back and your home was destroyed?
 
2017-09-13 02:51:16 PM  

LL316: I love when Trumpians bring up that category 5's have happened before.  Because scientific research is claiming natural disasters weren't invented until the industrial revolution or something.


Trumpheads love to bring up dumb shiat because they're just as dumb.
 
2017-09-13 02:54:03 PM  

LineNoise: jst3p: OK, I am not a boat guy so maybe I overestimate their range, but couldn't you jump in something like this and head for Louisiana saving your boat and getting you the hell out of there while avoiding the congested highways?

[img.fark.net image 780x438]

So a few things....yea for starters, range. you need to carefully chart out a trip like that in a boat that size, and stay relatively close to land as well. It also isn't something you want to try and outrun a hurricane in, because you don't have a chance in hell of weathering the seas you will encounter in one in it.

Now, there are certainly better things to do to it than leave it tied to the dock, but everyone and their brother down there has a boat, so if it isn't something you can just pull out with your trailer (if you even have a trailer) you have to get in line behind them and pony up for the marina to pull it out, and hope they get to you in time.

Alternatively you stand a slightly better chance in a storm (but not a serious hurricane) in just anchoring it  well somewhere protected and hoping it rides it out.

What probably happened in that picture is it was left tied up, the surge brought it to the end of its lines, and it swamped.

Also keep in mind lots of boat owners quickly realize they don't want a boat once the bills start coming in, but are now stuck with a loan on something that depreciates worse than a car. it going down in a storm isn't a bad way to get out of it.


My father has lived on Charlotte Harbor for the past 40 years. Even has a dock. Never owned a boat. He always said "Boats are money pits. If i have the urge to drive a boat I'll go rent one, drive it around for an hour or two and turn it back in. The maintenance can be someone else's problem".
 
2017-09-13 02:54:04 PM  
Neither Home Depot or Lowe's stock have popped yet.

/gotta buy those rebuild supplies somewhere
 
2017-09-13 02:56:06 PM  
LineNoise:  ...
Also keep in mind lots of boat owners quickly realize they don't want a boat once the bills start coming in, but are now stuck with a loan on something that depreciates worse than a car. it going down in a storm isn't a bad way to get out of it.

I don't understand this. How does losing the boat get them out of paying back the loan?
 
2017-09-13 02:56:40 PM  

jst3p: Very informative, thank you.


Also worth pointing out that unlike a car, that boat is more than likely not a total loss, as, being a boat, its sort of meant to get wet.

I mean yes, its going to require some serious work to get it running again, but the hull is fine provided it didn't crack, the engine can be rebuilt, etc. For the most part those things are far less complicated than an automobile, the electrical stuff in it is either designed to be submerged or easily replaced, and stuff like mold isn't much of a concern.

Lets say its a 75k-100k boat (from its looks), you could probably have it back to normal for about 1/3rd of its value.
 
2017-09-13 02:56:44 PM  

wildbill0712: The_Sponge: Shocktopus: To be fair, it's a very stupid place to live.


A great place to visit, though.

/Last trip was in 2008.
//Going next year, so I'm glad I can put some money in the local economy with scuba excursions and hefty bar tabs.

Any spots on the "must visit" list while there? Going to a music festival there in Feb next year. (If everything is back up and 100% by then.)



The Hemingway House

Captain Tony's...it's the original location of Sloppy Joe's ..Hemingway's favorite watering hole.

Sloppy Joe's

The Smallest Bar in Key West...when I was outside the entrance, a Jamaican bartender saw me walk by and actually said "Hey mon! Come in for a drink!"  I took his advice.

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The ghost/haunted tour.

Get a picture at the marker that says you are at the most Southern Point in the continuous United States.

Robert the Doll at the Fort East Martello Museum

Eat some conch fritters and stone crab claws.

Enjoy the fact that you can drink on the sidewalks...just like Vegas and New Orleans.
 
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