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2017-09-13 08:48:47 AM  
It's referred to as a gaggle of ghosts.
 
2017-09-13 08:51:54 AM  
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2017-09-13 09:50:53 AM  
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2017-09-13 12:28:42 PM  
Forgive my ignorance, but remind me, what did Kaine bring to the table? I mean, he seems like a stand up guy and I can't think of anything that would have made him any less capable of being VP but he always just seemed....there. Besides an introductory speech/email, a speech at the DNC, and the debate....I really can't think of him doing much to stand out.

Were we spoiled but Biden? He could whip us into a frenzy with his words.
 
2017-09-13 12:53:51 PM  

Aar1012: Forgive my ignorance, but remind me, what did Kaine bring to the table? I mean, he seems like a stand up guy and I can't think of anything that would have made him any less capable of being VP but he always just seemed....there. Besides an introductory speech/email, a speech at the DNC, and the debate....I really can't think of him doing much to stand out.

Were we spoiled but Biden? He could whip us into a frenzy with his words.


I have a friend that volunteered for Hillary's campaign, and when he learned Hillary picked Kaine for her running mate, he said "She's given the election to Trump."
 
2017-09-13 12:56:46 PM  

RJReves: It's referred to as a gaggle of ghosts.


I thought it was a murder of ghosts. Or is that vampires?
 
2017-09-13 01:08:47 PM  

Snarfangel: RJReves: It's referred to as a gaggle of ghosts.

I thought it was a murder of ghosts. Or is that vampires?


I think the proper terminology is "A tuxedo of vampires"
 
2017-09-13 03:28:01 PM  

Bith Set Me Up: Aar1012: Forgive my ignorance, but remind me, what did Kaine bring to the table? I mean, he seems like a stand up guy and I can't think of anything that would have made him any less capable of being VP but he always just seemed....there. Besides an introductory speech/email, a speech at the DNC, and the debate....I really can't think of him doing much to stand out.

Were we spoiled but Biden? He could whip us into a frenzy with his words.

I have a friend that volunteered for Hillary's campaign, and when he learned Hillary picked Kaine for her running mate, he said "She's given the election to Trump."


I'm curious what the reasoning is there. Is the idea that Hillary would have won if she had chosen Bernie or Elizabeth Warren?
 
2017-09-13 05:48:12 PM  

Bith Set Me Up: Aar1012: Forgive my ignorance, but remind me, what did Kaine bring to the table? I mean, he seems like a stand up guy and I can't think of anything that would have made him any less capable of being VP but he always just seemed....there. Besides an introductory speech/email, a speech at the DNC, and the debate....I really can't think of him doing much to stand out.

Were we spoiled but Biden? He could whip us into a frenzy with his words.

I have a friend that volunteered for Hillary's campaign, and when he learned Hillary picked Kaine for her running mate, he said "She's given the election to Trump."


Can't say they were right, but we can't prove they were wrong, can we?
 
2017-09-13 05:48:36 PM  
Scooby-Doo only had to battle 13, and he had Vincent Price to help.
 
2017-09-13 05:48:58 PM  
Tim Kaine said that he doesn't support Medicare For All because people "like options."

Please, Virginia, do what's right and primary this guy.
 
2017-09-13 05:49:09 PM  

Aar1012: Forgive my ignorance, but remind me, what did Kaine bring to the table? I mean, he seems like a stand up guy and I can't think of anything that would have made him any less capable of being VP but he always just seemed....there. Besides an introductory speech/email, a speech at the DNC, and the debate....I really can't think of him doing much to stand out.

Were we spoiled but Biden? He could whip us into a frenzy with his words.


On Fleek.
 
2017-09-13 05:50:53 PM  

Aar1012: Forgive my ignorance, but remind me, what did Kaine bring to the table? I mean, he seems like a stand up guy and I can't think of anything that would have made him any less capable of being VP but he always just seemed....there. Besides an introductory speech/email, a speech at the DNC, and the debate....I really can't think of him doing much to stand out.

Were we spoiled but Biden? He could whip us into a frenzy with his words.


Drawing a blank. He was non-controversial, maybe?
 
2017-09-13 05:52:31 PM  
Who is he going to call?
 
2017-09-13 05:52:42 PM  

Cagey B: Bith Set Me Up: Aar1012: Forgive my ignorance, but remind me, what did Kaine bring to the table? I mean, he seems like a stand up guy and I can't think of anything that would have made him any less capable of being VP but he always just seemed....there. Besides an introductory speech/email, a speech at the DNC, and the debate....I really can't think of him doing much to stand out.

Were we spoiled but Biden? He could whip us into a frenzy with his words.

I have a friend that volunteered for Hillary's campaign, and when he learned Hillary picked Kaine for her running mate, he said "She's given the election to Trump."

I'm curious what the reasoning is there. Is the idea that Hillary would have won if she had chosen Bernie or Elizabeth Warren?


Yeah. Tim Kaine was a conservative choice meant to appeal to Centrist America and Former Republicans. He was a white dude meant to appeal to the racists. And, he was a middle finger to anybody espousing leftist values saying they weren't going to get anything done under her presidency.

In other words, Tim Kaine was nothing more than a political symbol who didn't even get an advance copy of Hillary's latest book.
 
2017-09-13 05:56:25 PM  

Man. Goatman.: Aar1012: Forgive my ignorance, but remind me, what did Kaine bring to the table? I mean, he seems like a stand up guy and I can't think of anything that would have made him any less capable of being VP but he always just seemed....there. Besides an introductory speech/email, a speech at the DNC, and the debate....I really can't think of him doing much to stand out.

Were we spoiled but Biden? He could whip us into a frenzy with his words.

Drawing a blank. He was non-controversial, maybe?


That's pretty much the only problem with him. He wasn't really bad, but just a completely safe choice that didn't excite for shiat. Yes, "Exciting" or "Inspiring" shouldn't be the only thing that matters in a candidate, but it sure as hell doesn't hurt.
 
2017-09-13 05:56:48 PM  
Tim Kaine was just kind of... there. I get that he was put on the ticket because he was a safe politician who couldn't upstage Hillary, but Hillary herself wasn't anything to write home about, which only made Tim Kaine look more uninspiring and milquetoast by comparison. She could have replaced him with Lincoln Chafee and nobody would have noticed.
 
2017-09-13 05:57:40 PM  
Who?
 
2017-09-13 05:58:00 PM  

KingBiefWhistle: Man. Goatman.: Aar1012: Forgive my ignorance, but remind me, what did Kaine bring to the table? I mean, he seems like a stand up guy and I can't think of anything that would have made him any less capable of being VP but he always just seemed....there. Besides an introductory speech/email, a speech at the DNC, and the debate....I really can't think of him doing much to stand out.

Were we spoiled but Biden? He could whip us into a frenzy with his words.

Drawing a blank. He was non-controversial, maybe?

That's pretty much the only problem with him. He wasn't really bad, but just a completely safe choice that didn't excite for shiat. Yes, "Exciting" or "Inspiring" shouldn't be the only thing that matters in a candidate, but it sure as hell doesn't hurt.


Oh, he was also meant to make Hillary look like a progressive firebrand.
 
2017-09-13 05:58:25 PM  

Aar1012: Forgive my ignorance, but remind me, what did Kaine bring to the table? I mean, he seems like a stand up guy and I can't think of anything that would have made him any less capable of being VP but he always just seemed....there. Besides an introductory speech/email, a speech at the DNC, and the debate....I really can't think of him doing much to stand out.

Were we spoiled but Biden? He could whip us into a frenzy with his words.


He did give VA to Hillary in the election - which at the time, VA was the tipping point state in the minds of many, based on the assumption that PA, WI, and MI would stay blue. I'm guessing they figured that OH was a lost cause and needed to keep VA from going into Trump's hands, so it made sense strictly from a geography standpoint.
 
2017-09-13 05:58:46 PM  

Weatherkiss: Tim Kaine was just kind of... there. I get that he was put on the ticket because he was a safe politician who couldn't upstage Hillary, but Hillary herself wasn't anything to write home about, which only made Tim Kaine look more uninspiring and milquetoast by comparison. She could have replaced him with Lincoln Chafee and nobody would have noticed.


What would Clinton/Webb have looked like? *hrm*
 
2017-09-13 05:59:57 PM  
FTFADonald Trump, a man so reviled by Kaine's fellow Democrats that many of them can't bear the thought of him serving out his full four-year presidential term.

This seems to suggest that our revulsion for Republican President Donald Trump is somehow unwarranted. It isn't.

He's so many awful, un-American things that his presidency would be hilarious if it wasn't tragic, and I genuinely hope he dies soon.
 
2017-09-13 06:01:10 PM  

misanthropicsob: Weatherkiss: Tim Kaine was just kind of... there. I get that he was put on the ticket because he was a safe politician who couldn't upstage Hillary, but Hillary herself wasn't anything to write home about, which only made Tim Kaine look more uninspiring and milquetoast by comparison. She could have replaced him with Lincoln Chafee and nobody would have noticed.

What would Clinton/Webb have looked like? *hrm*


The (D) version of McCain/Palin.
 
2017-09-13 06:02:48 PM  

misanthropicsob: Weatherkiss: Tim Kaine was just kind of... there. I get that he was put on the ticket because he was a safe politician who couldn't upstage Hillary, but Hillary herself wasn't anything to write home about, which only made Tim Kaine look more uninspiring and milquetoast by comparison. She could have replaced him with Lincoln Chafee and nobody would have noticed.

What would Clinton/Webb have looked like? *hrm*


A disaster and a half. Webb is every bit the white male grievance candidate that Sanders is portended to be, but because he has a D at the end of his name, it's all good to some people.
 
2017-09-13 06:03:18 PM  

Weatherkiss: misanthropicsob: Weatherkiss: Tim Kaine was just kind of... there. I get that he was put on the ticket because he was a safe politician who couldn't upstage Hillary, but Hillary herself wasn't anything to write home about, which only made Tim Kaine look more uninspiring and milquetoast by comparison. She could have replaced him with Lincoln Chafee and nobody would have noticed.

What would Clinton/Webb have looked like? *hrm*

The (D) version of McCain/Palin.


Are Ds that boring? Palin was a firebrand. Webb was still shellshocked on that stage.
 
2017-09-13 06:04:38 PM  

JAGChem82: He did give VA to Hillary in the election - which at the time, VA was the tipping point state in the minds of many, based on the assumption that PA, WI, and MI would stay blue. I'm guessing they figured that OH was a lost cause and needed to keep VA from going into Trump's hands, so it made sense strictly from a geography standpoint.


He won Virginia... and then lost a whole lot of other places.
 
2017-09-13 06:04:53 PM  

misanthropicsob: Weatherkiss: misanthropicsob: Weatherkiss: Tim Kaine was just kind of... there. I get that he was put on the ticket because he was a safe politician who couldn't upstage Hillary, but Hillary herself wasn't anything to write home about, which only made Tim Kaine look more uninspiring and milquetoast by comparison. She could have replaced him with Lincoln Chafee and nobody would have noticed.

What would Clinton/Webb have looked like? *hrm*

The (D) version of McCain/Palin.

Are Ds that boring? Palin was a firebrand. Webb was still shellshocked on that stage.


I think Webb would have been prone to gaffes, even more than Uncle Joe.
 
2017-09-13 06:05:10 PM  
He's got a heavy asymmetrical questioning unpresidential eyebrow. God help us...
 
2017-09-13 06:10:07 PM  

KingBiefWhistle: Man. Goatman.: Aar1012: Forgive my ignorance, but remind me, what did Kaine bring to the table? I mean, he seems like a stand up guy and I can't think of anything that would have made him any less capable of being VP but he always just seemed....there. Besides an introductory speech/email, a speech at the DNC, and the debate....I really can't think of him doing much to stand out.

Were we spoiled but Biden? He could whip us into a frenzy with his words.

Drawing a blank. He was non-controversial, maybe?

That's pretty much the only problem with him. He wasn't really bad, but just a completely safe choice that didn't excite for shiat. Yes, "Exciting" or "Inspiring" shouldn't be the only thing that matters in a candidate, but it sure as hell doesn't hurt.


It seems to be the only thing that liberals respond to in terms of POTUS candidates.
 
2017-09-13 06:12:57 PM  

Weatherkiss: Tim Kaine was just kind of... there. I get that he was put on the ticket because he was a safe politician who couldn't upstage Hillary, but Hillary herself wasn't anything to write home about, which only made Tim Kaine look more uninspiring and milquetoast by comparison. She could have replaced him with Lincoln Chafee and nobody would have noticed.


I seem to remember that he can speak fluent Spanish, and that would help sway the Latino vote. I could be completely wrong on this. The election seems like it was 50 years ago and my memory is fuzzy.
 
2017-09-13 06:15:00 PM  

Gestalt: JAGChem82: He did give VA to Hillary in the election - which at the time, VA was the tipping point state in the minds of many, based on the assumption that PA, WI, and MI would stay blue. I'm guessing they figured that OH was a lost cause and needed to keep VA from going into Trump's hands, so it made sense strictly from a geography standpoint.

He won Virginia... and then lost a whole lot of other places.


He was a meh VP candidate - not bad, not good, but definitely not one to carry you over the top. It's been said that the VP is historically the P's attack dog - the one you send out to say the things you want to, but you don't out of being "above" the fray.

Then again, that theory falls apart with Trump - Pence ain't a attack dog for crap and Trump wouldn't want him getting the attention in the first place.
 
2017-09-13 06:15:46 PM  

Weatherkiss: Tim Kaine was just kind of... there. I get that he was put on the ticket because he was a safe politician who couldn't upstage Hillary, but Hillary herself wasn't anything to write home about, which only made Tim Kaine look more uninspiring and milquetoast by comparison. She could have replaced him with Lincoln Chafee and nobody would have noticed.


He's boring and creepy-looking is about all I remember. He's got that vibe that makes you want to get a warrant for his crawlspace.
 
2017-09-13 06:16:19 PM  
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2017-09-13 06:17:16 PM  

misanthropicsob: Cagey B: Bith Set Me Up: Aar1012: Forgive my ignorance, but remind me, what did Kaine bring to the table? I mean, he seems like a stand up guy and I can't think of anything that would have made him any less capable of being VP but he always just seemed....there. Besides an introductory speech/email, a speech at the DNC, and the debate....I really can't think of him doing much to stand out.

Were we spoiled but Biden? He could whip us into a frenzy with his words.

I have a friend that volunteered for Hillary's campaign, and when he learned Hillary picked Kaine for her running mate, he said "She's given the election to Trump."

I'm curious what the reasoning is there. Is the idea that Hillary would have won if she had chosen Bernie or Elizabeth Warren?

Yeah. Tim Kaine was a conservative choice meant to appeal to Centrist America and Former Republicans. He was a white dude meant to appeal to the racists. And, he was a middle finger to anybody espousing leftist values saying they weren't going to get anything done under her presidency.

In other words, Tim Kaine was nothing more than a political symbol who didn't even get an advance copy of Hillary's latest book.


And he spoke Spanish.
 
2017-09-13 06:17:35 PM  

DubyaHater: Weatherkiss: Tim Kaine was just kind of... there. I get that he was put on the ticket because he was a safe politician who couldn't upstage Hillary, but Hillary herself wasn't anything to write home about, which only made Tim Kaine look more uninspiring and milquetoast by comparison. She could have replaced him with Lincoln Chafee and nobody would have noticed.

I seem to remember that he can speak fluent Spanish, and that would help sway the Latino vote. I could be completely wrong on this. The election seems like it was 50 years ago and my memory is fuzzy.


Hell, if that was the case, they should've gotten an actual Latino candidate to do that - the Latino vote didn't appreciably increase from 2012 to 2016 in terms of %D.
 
2017-09-13 06:17:40 PM  

Bith Set Me Up: Aar1012: Forgive my ignorance, but remind me, what did Kaine bring to the table? I mean, he seems like a stand up guy and I can't think of anything that would have made him any less capable of being VP but he always just seemed....there. Besides an introductory speech/email, a speech at the DNC, and the debate....I really can't think of him doing much to stand out.

Were we spoiled but Biden? He could whip us into a frenzy with his words.

I have a friend that volunteered for Hillary's campaign, and when he learned Hillary picked Kaine for her running mate, he said "She's given the election to Trump."


Oh, please.  Kaine was not the problem with that ticket.

Kaine was fine.  Likable and inoffensive, and from a swing state.  Fit the VP mold pretty well.

Hillary lost for a million reasons, some of her own making, some not.  But Tim Kaine wasn't one of them.
 
2017-09-13 06:23:19 PM  

JAGChem82: Gestalt: JAGChem82: He did give VA to Hillary in the election - which at the time, VA was the tipping point state in the minds of many, based on the assumption that PA, WI, and MI would stay blue. I'm guessing they figured that OH was a lost cause and needed to keep VA from going into Trump's hands, so it made sense strictly from a geography standpoint.

He won Virginia... and then lost a whole lot of other places.

He was a meh VP candidate - not bad, not good, but definitely not one to carry you over the top. It's been said that the VP is historically the P's attack dog - the one you send out to say the things you want to, but you don't out of being "above" the fray.

Then again, that theory falls apart with Trump - Pence ain't a attack dog for crap and Trump wouldn't want him getting the attention in the first place.


That's not the VP's job.  Can you name me one single instance in modern political history where the choice of running mate has made the positive difference to win the race for a candidate?

It doesn't happen. If you expect your VP choice to "put you over the top," you've probably already lost.  Hillary wouldn't have won if she'd only picked someone else. It wouldn't have made a difference.

A running mate cannot win a race for you, though they can lose them (cf. Palin, Sarah).
 
2017-09-13 06:24:24 PM  

Doc Daneeka: Bith Set Me Up: Aar1012: Forgive my ignorance, but remind me, what did Kaine bring to the table? I mean, he seems like a stand up guy and I can't think of anything that would have made him any less capable of being VP but he always just seemed....there. Besides an introductory speech/email, a speech at the DNC, and the debate....I really can't think of him doing much to stand out.

Were we spoiled but Biden? He could whip us into a frenzy with his words.

I have a friend that volunteered for Hillary's campaign, and when he learned Hillary picked Kaine for her running mate, he said "She's given the election to Trump."

Oh, please.  Kaine was not the problem with that ticket.

Kaine was fine.  Likable and inoffensive, and from a swing state.  Fit the VP mold pretty well.

Hillary lost for a million reasons, some of her own making, some not.  But Tim Kaine wasn't one of them.


I'll agree that Tim Kaine didn't lose Sec. Clinton the White House. I just can't really see the added benefit of him though.

Some argue that "liberals only want inspiration, lol!". The VP should be an attack dog you can send out in tough times. The job has evolved a little since the job was created.
 
2017-09-13 06:25:41 PM  

Aar1012: Forgive my ignorance, but remind me, what did Kaine bring to the table? I mean, he seems like a stand up guy and I can't think of anything that would have made him any less capable of being VP but he always just seemed....there. Besides an introductory speech/email, a speech at the DNC, and the debate....I really can't think of him doing much to stand out.

Were we spoiled but Biden? He could whip us into a frenzy with his words.


Well this is what Clinton says about why she chose him.

I chose Tim for my running mate out of a superb field of candidates because he had executive experience, a stellar record as mayor, Governor and Senator, a well-deserved reputation for decency and good judgment, and he was fluent in Spanish.  He would have been an effective partner and truth teller as my VP. Also, I liked him alot.
 
2017-09-13 06:26:30 PM  

Cagey B: Bith Set Me Up: Aar1012: Forgive my ignorance, but remind me, what did Kaine bring to the table? I mean, he seems like a stand up guy and I can't think of anything that would have made him any less capable of being VP but he always just seemed....there. Besides an introductory speech/email, a speech at the DNC, and the debate....I really can't think of him doing much to stand out.

Were we spoiled but Biden? He could whip us into a frenzy with his words.

I have a friend that volunteered for Hillary's campaign, and when he learned Hillary picked Kaine for her running mate, he said "She's given the election to Trump."

I'm curious what the reasoning is there. Is the idea that Hillary would have won if she had chosen Bernie or Elizabeth Warren?


If Hillary HAD chosen Bernie, Drew would have lost a million dollars worth of trolly posts and terrible threads.
 
2017-09-13 06:29:36 PM  

Aar1012: Doc Daneeka: Bith Set Me Up: Aar1012: Forgive my ignorance, but remind me, what did Kaine bring to the table? I mean, he seems like a stand up guy and I can't think of anything that would have made him any less capable of being VP but he always just seemed....there. Besides an introductory speech/email, a speech at the DNC, and the debate....I really can't think of him doing much to stand out.

Were we spoiled but Biden? He could whip us into a frenzy with his words.

I have a friend that volunteered for Hillary's campaign, and when he learned Hillary picked Kaine for her running mate, he said "She's given the election to Trump."

Oh, please.  Kaine was not the problem with that ticket.

Kaine was fine.  Likable and inoffensive, and from a swing state.  Fit the VP mold pretty well.

Hillary lost for a million reasons, some of her own making, some not.  But Tim Kaine wasn't one of them.

I'll agree that Tim Kaine didn't lose Sec. Clinton the White House. I just can't really see the added benefit of him though.

Some argue that "liberals only want inspiration, lol!". The VP should be an attack dog you can send out in tough times. The job has evolved a little since the job was created.


You can swim with a brick tied to your body.

But when you're in the Olympics going up against some big league competition for all the marbles, you should leave the brick where it lies.
 
2017-09-13 06:33:08 PM  
Fark Kaine.
 
2017-09-13 06:33:50 PM  

Cagey B: Bith Set Me Up: Aar1012: Forgive my ignorance, but remind me, what did Kaine bring to the table? I mean, he seems like a stand up guy and I can't think of anything that would have made him any less capable of being VP but he always just seemed....there. Besides an introductory speech/email, a speech at the DNC, and the debate....I really can't think of him doing much to stand out.

Were we spoiled but Biden? He could whip us into a frenzy with his words.

I have a friend that volunteered for Hillary's campaign, and when he learned Hillary picked Kaine for her running mate, he said "She's given the election to Trump."

I'm curious what the reasoning is there. Is the idea that Hillary would have won if she had chosen Bernie or Elizabeth Warren?


Yep. Clinton picked Kaine so she could solidify Virginia. Everyone else wanted her to pick anyone else so she could shore up other voting blocs, like liberals, African Americans, Latinos, etc. Kaine was a safe bet that didn't really lose her anything, but didn't really win her anything, either.
 
2017-09-13 06:35:09 PM  

raius: Aar1012: Forgive my ignorance, but remind me, what did Kaine bring to the table? I mean, he seems like a stand up guy and I can't think of anything that would have made him any less capable of being VP but he always just seemed....there. Besides an introductory speech/email, a speech at the DNC, and the debate....I really can't think of him doing much to stand out.

Were we spoiled but Biden? He could whip us into a frenzy with his words.

Well this is what Clinton says about why she chose him.

I chose Tim for my running mate out of a superb field of candidates because he had executive experience, a stellar record as mayor, Governor and Senator, a well-deserved reputation for decency and good judgment, and he was fluent in Spanish.  He would have been an effective partner and truth teller as my VP. Also, I liked him alot.


Listing a job experience isn't always the best response as to what a candidate brings as VP. That's boiler plate stuff.

"The person I'm about to introduce to you was a union member and is married to a union member and understands the problems, the hopes and the values of working people, knows what it's like to worry about mortgage payments and health care and the cost of gasoline and groceries; a standout high school point guard; a concerned citizen who became a member of the PTA, then a city council member, and then a mayor, and now a governor...who beat the long odds to win a tough election on a message of reform and public integrity. And I am especially proud to say in the week we celebrate the anniversary of women's suffrage, a devoted wife and a mother of five. She's not -- she's not from these parts and she's not from Washington. But when you get to know her, you're going to be as impressed  as I am." - John McCain
 
2017-09-13 06:35:12 PM  

Snapper Carr: KingBiefWhistle: Man. Goatman.: Aar1012: Forgive my ignorance, but remind me, what did Kaine bring to the table? I mean, he seems like a stand up guy and I can't think of anything that would have made him any less capable of being VP but he always just seemed....there. Besides an introductory speech/email, a speech at the DNC, and the debate....I really can't think of him doing much to stand out.

Were we spoiled but Biden? He could whip us into a frenzy with his words.

Drawing a blank. He was non-controversial, maybe?

That's pretty much the only problem with him. He wasn't really bad, but just a completely safe choice that didn't excite for shiat. Yes, "Exciting" or "Inspiring" shouldn't be the only thing that matters in a candidate, but it sure as hell doesn't hurt.

It seems to be the only thing that liberals respond to in terms of POTUS candidates.


Conservatives will vote for any idiot, and liberals will only vote for someone cool
 
2017-09-13 06:36:27 PM  
Clinton picked Kaine to placate her donors and thumb her nose at progressives.

He will never be able to scrub the Clinton stink off.
 
2017-09-13 06:37:28 PM  

Aar1012: raius: Aar1012: Forgive my ignorance, but remind me, what did Kaine bring to the table? I mean, he seems like a stand up guy and I can't think of anything that would have made him any less capable of being VP but he always just seemed....there. Besides an introductory speech/email, a speech at the DNC, and the debate....I really can't think of him doing much to stand out.

Were we spoiled but Biden? He could whip us into a frenzy with his words.

Well this is what Clinton says about why she chose him.

I chose Tim for my running mate out of a superb field of candidates because he had executive experience, a stellar record as mayor, Governor and Senator, a well-deserved reputation for decency and good judgment, and he was fluent in Spanish.  He would have been an effective partner and truth teller as my VP. Also, I liked him alot.

Listing a job experience isn't always the best response as to what a candidate brings as VP. That's boiler plate stuff.

"The person I'm about to introduce to you was a union member and is married to a union member and understands the problems, the hopes and the values of working people, knows what it's like to worry about mortgage payments and health care and the cost of gasoline and groceries; a standout high school point guard; a concerned citizen who became a member of the PTA, then a city council member, and then a mayor, and now a governor...who beat the long odds to win a tough election on a message of reform and public integrity. And I am especially proud to say in the week we celebrate the anniversary of women's suffrage, a devoted wife and a mother of five. She's not -- she's not from these parts and she's not from Washington. But when you get to know her, you're going to be as impressed  as I am." - John McCain


It's just a few sentences in her new book, I'm sure you can find a better answer from the campaign.
 
2017-09-13 06:39:31 PM  

raius: Aar1012: raius: Aar1012: Forgive my ignorance, but remind me, what did Kaine bring to the table? I mean, he seems like a stand up guy and I can't think of anything that would have made him any less capable of being VP but he always just seemed....there. Besides an introductory speech/email, a speech at the DNC, and the debate....I really can't think of him doing much to stand out.

Were we spoiled but Biden? He could whip us into a frenzy with his words.

Well this is what Clinton says about why she chose him.

I chose Tim for my running mate out of a superb field of candidates because he had executive experience, a stellar record as mayor, Governor and Senator, a well-deserved reputation for decency and good judgment, and he was fluent in Spanish.  He would have been an effective partner and truth teller as my VP. Also, I liked him alot.

Listing a job experience isn't always the best response as to what a candidate brings as VP. That's boiler plate stuff.

"The person I'm about to introduce to you was a union member and is married to a union member and understands the problems, the hopes and the values of working people, knows what it's like to worry about mortgage payments and health care and the cost of gasoline and groceries; a standout high school point guard; a concerned citizen who became a member of the PTA, then a city council member, and then a mayor, and now a governor...who beat the long odds to win a tough election on a message of reform and public integrity. And I am especially proud to say in the week we celebrate the anniversary of women's suffrage, a devoted wife and a mother of five. She's not -- she's not from these parts and she's not from Washington. But when you get to know her, you're going to be as impressed  as I am." - John McCain

It's just a few sentences in her new book, I'm sure you can find a better answer from the campaign.


Heh, Judging from the wording, I figured it was either a paragraph from her book or an email from the campaign. I leaned more towards the email.
 
2017-09-13 06:43:52 PM  
 
2017-09-13 06:44:52 PM  

Doc Daneeka: Bith Set Me Up: Aar1012: Forgive my ignorance, but remind me, what did Kaine bring to the table? I mean, he seems like a stand up guy and I can't think of anything that would have made him any less capable of being VP but he always just seemed....there. Besides an introductory speech/email, a speech at the DNC, and the debate....I really can't think of him doing much to stand out.

Were we spoiled but Biden? He could whip us into a frenzy with his words.

I have a friend that volunteered for Hillary's campaign, and when he learned Hillary picked Kaine for her running mate, he said "She's given the election to Trump."

Oh, please.  Kaine was not the problem with that ticket.

Kaine was fine.  Likable and inoffensive, and from a swing state.  Fit the VP mold pretty well.

Hillary lost for a million reasons, some of her own making, some not.  But Tim Kaine wasn't one of them.


This is the truth, but it doesn't generate page clicks or entertain bored Farkers at work.
 
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