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2017-09-12 12:52:04 PM  
Problem?
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2017-09-12 01:22:12 PM  
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2017-09-12 02:12:44 PM  
The Layoff alleging extensive cuts to hardware and Solaris teams.

RIP

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Loved working on Sun servers. Damn. F*ck you Oracle.
 
2017-09-12 02:24:10 PM  
Great.  Now they'll never fixed the managed data access for EF6.
 
2017-09-12 03:42:56 PM  
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Hmm, I see the problem.
 
2017-09-12 04:10:46 PM  
Oracle is systematically being wiped out by Amazon, Cisco, etc
 
2017-09-12 04:34:27 PM  
One
Rich
Asshole
Called
Larry
Ellison
 
2017-09-12 04:54:31 PM  

Rand Paul's Anus is Leaking: Oracle is systematically being wiped out by Amazon, Cisco, etc


And Salesforce... not sure which dog I'm rooting for in that fight
 
2017-09-12 05:00:37 PM  
That's the "Oracle = Cloud" mantra at work.  Even the light fixtures are shaped like clouds now.
 
2017-09-12 05:01:46 PM  
Really don't feel bad watching oracle struggle.
 
2017-09-12 05:10:39 PM  
that title made me laugh, so it wins the internet for me for the day.

Unfortunately, the story itself..far from funny.
 
2017-09-12 05:17:33 PM  

Opacity: Rand Paul's Anus is Leaking: Oracle is systematically being wiped out by Amazon, Cisco, etc

And Salesforce... not sure which dog I'm rooting for in that fight


Ugh, Salesforce, how does software become so popular while being so poorly written and buggy?
 
2017-09-12 05:17:36 PM  

hugram: Problem?
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It's funny that you post a pic of his boat - perhaps if he would quit moving his farking sea sailboat into the Urban Pond at their Redwood City HQ, they could save money from that lame vanity project to save a few dozen jobs?
 
2017-09-12 05:20:26 PM  
Time to hire some more H1-B's to finish all the work.
 
2017-09-12 05:22:00 PM  

OptimisticCynicism: Really don't feel bad watching oracle struggle.

This!
fark Oracle. fark 'em hard!
 
2017-09-12 05:27:26 PM  

stuhayes2010: Opacity: Rand Paul's Anus is Leaking: Oracle is systematically being wiped out by Amazon, Cisco, etc

And Salesforce... not sure which dog I'm rooting for in that fight

Ugh, Salesforce, how does software become so popular while being so poorly written and buggy?


Because it is less buggy than the competition?  CRM software has historically been complicated and buggy while not having any sense of UX at all.
 
2017-09-12 05:35:57 PM  

Nadie_AZ: The Layoff alleging extensive cuts to hardware and Solaris teams.
RIP
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Loved working on Sun servers. Damn. F*ck you Oracle.


The Suns I worked on in 1990 were absolutely amazing.  By 2000, I never saw an announcement from Sun that wasn't completely insane (including obscure products that the company I was working for was expected to sell to the Navy.  They made $20,000 wrenches look sane).  I suspect the change was related to Solaris, but that might have been a coincidence.  I think I saw the starts of this thing on usenet back when Solaris was announced:

Remember when those guys out West
With their longish hair and paisley vests
Were starting up, straight out of UCB?
They used those Motorola chips
Which at the time were really hip
And looked upon the world through VME.
Their first attempt ran like a pig
But it was the start of something big;
They called the next one the Sun-2
And though they only sold a few
It soon gave birth unto the new
Sun-3 which was their pride
And now they're singing
[chorus]
"Bye, bye, SunOS 4.1.3!
ATT System V has replaced BSD.
You can cling to the standards of the industry
But only if you pay the right fee --
Only if you pay the right fee . . ."
The hardware wasn't all they sold.
Their Berkeley port was solid gold
And interfaced with System V, no less!
They implemented all the stuff
That Berkeley thought would be enough
Then added RPC and NFS.
It was a lot of code to cram
Into just four megs of RAM.
The later revs were really cool
With added values like SunTools
But then they took us all for fools
By peddling Solaris . . .
And they were singing,
[chorus]
They took a RISC and kindled SPARC.
The difference was like light and dark.
The Sun-4s were the fastest and the best.
The user base was having fun
Installing SunOS 4.1
But what was coming no one could have guessed.
The installed base was sound
And software did abound.
While all the hackers laughed and played
Already plans were being made
To make the dubious "upgrade"
To Sun's new Solaris . . .
And Sun was singing,
[chorus]
The cartridge tapes were first to go --
The CD-ROM's a must, you know
And floppy drives will soon go out the door.
I tried to call and ask them why
But they took away my TTY
And left my modem lying on the floor.
While they were on a roll
They moved the damned Control.
The Ethernet's now twisted pair
Which no one uses anywhere.
ISDN is still more rare --
The bandwidth's even less!
But still they're singing
[chorus]
But worst of all is what they've done
To software that we used to run
Like dbx and even /bin/cc.
Compilers now have license locks
Wrapped up in OpenWindows crocks --
We even have to pay for GCC!
The applications broke;
/usr/local went up in smoke.
The features we've depended on
Before too long will all be gone
But Sun, I'm sure, will carry on
By peddling Solaris,
Forever singing,
[chorus]

/ps: the floppy port on the Sparcstations was the ideal means for bringing porn back to your PC.
 
2017-09-12 05:49:57 PM  
That warms my heart wumpus. Thanks.
 
2017-09-12 06:05:51 PM  

Nadie_AZ: The Layoff alleging extensive cuts to hardware and Solaris teams.

RIP

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Loved working on Sun servers. Damn. F*ck you Oracle.


Best supported hardware ever.

Costly yes, slowish, yep that too.
Supported and known inside and out?  Fark  yeah it was.

Will miss you (real Sparc) Slowlaris.
Thanks for helping us build the early internet.
 
2017-09-12 06:40:17 PM  
Don't forget what those a$$hat$ did to StorageTek.

\T10K drives FTW
\\Remember Powderhorns?
 
kab
2017-09-12 07:11:34 PM  
Ellison's 19th bathroom in his seventh summer home ain't paying for itself, subs.
 
2017-09-12 07:20:08 PM  

Nadie_AZ: The Layoff alleging extensive cuts to hardware and Solaris teams.

RIP

[img.fark.net image 600x400]

Loved working on Sun servers. Damn. F*ck you Oracle.


I remember the days when, as a startup, you wouldn't even go looking for funding if you didn't promise to spend huge amounts of your investor's capital on Oracle and Sun infrastructure.   It showed you were "mature" as a technology organization.   It was almost like that was more important than actually having something to sell.   "Yeah, we can't make payroll, but we just wrote Ellison a check for two million dollars!"

Good times...
 
2017-09-12 07:23:03 PM  

yet_another_wumpus: Nadie_AZ: The Layoff alleging extensive cuts to hardware and Solaris teams.
RIP
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Loved working on Sun servers. Damn. F*ck you Oracle.

The Suns I worked on in 1990 were absolutely amazing.  By 2000, I never saw an announcement from Sun that wasn't completely insane (including obscure products that the company I was working for was expected to sell to the Navy.


My first *nix was a Sun system that SAIC sold the Navy in the late 80s and early 90s.   JOTS II.  Four 4200 pizza boxes replaced literally five rooms full of equipment.

I loved that shiat.  Most of the equipment it replaced was three phase generators, water pumps, and air filtration.  Not having to maintain that shiat freed up a lot of time for sitting on my ass.
 
2017-09-12 07:25:59 PM  

cSquids: stuhayes2010: Opacity: Rand Paul's Anus is Leaking: Oracle is systematically being wiped out by Amazon, Cisco, etc

And Salesforce... not sure which dog I'm rooting for in that fight

Ugh, Salesforce, how does software become so popular while being so poorly written and buggy?

Because it is less buggy than the competition?  CRM software has historically been complicated and buggy while not having any sense of UX at all.


Siebel forever!!!!!!
 
2017-09-12 07:32:26 PM  
Oracle is a mess.

They want to compete with salesforce but offer nothing in improvements.

They want to compete with AWS and Azure but barely have a cloud offering to begin with and have tried to catch up via acquisition. They're gonna lose.

They want to get rid of their on prem offerings when that's the only thing they're good at.

They decided they want to compete with Splunk now (and log rhythm and the already huge SIEM market).

They have ruined the solid investments they've made (Sun).

They have no direction and nobody innovating. They're dead in the water. One could go on for days.
 
2017-09-12 07:59:41 PM  

holdmybones: Oracle is a mess.

They want to compete with salesforce but offer nothing in improvements.

They want to compete with AWS and Azure but barely have a cloud offering to begin with and have tried to catch up via acquisition. They're gonna lose.

They want to get rid of their on prem offerings when that's the only thing they're good at.

They decided they want to compete with Splunk now (and log rhythm and the already huge SIEM market).

They have ruined the solid investments they've made (Sun).

They have no direction and nobody innovating. They're dead in the water. One could go on for days.


I had no idea they were after Splunk's market. When i looked they seemed rather entrenched.
 
2017-09-12 08:07:11 PM  

OptimisticCynicism: holdmybones: Oracle is a mess.

They want to compete with salesforce but offer nothing in improvements.

They want to compete with AWS and Azure but barely have a cloud offering to begin with and have tried to catch up via acquisition. They're gonna lose.

They want to get rid of their on prem offerings when that's the only thing they're good at.

They decided they want to compete with Splunk now (and log rhythm and the already huge SIEM market).

They have ruined the solid investments they've made (Sun).

They have no direction and nobody innovating. They're dead in the water. One could go on for days.

I had no idea they were after Splunk's market. When i looked they seemed rather entrenched.


There isn't anything left. They're a decade late to that game.
 
2017-09-12 08:10:46 PM  

holdmybones: cSquids: stuhayes2010: Opacity: Rand Paul's Anus is Leaking: Oracle is systematically being wiped out by Amazon, Cisco, etc

And Salesforce... not sure which dog I'm rooting for in that fight

Ugh, Salesforce, how does software become so popular while being so poorly written and buggy?

Because it is less buggy than the competition?  CRM software has historically been complicated and buggy while not having any sense of UX at all.

Siebel forever!!!!!!


Lol @ Siebel, was farking slow and not very user friendly.

I'm still trying to figure out what Salesforece even does?
 
2017-09-12 08:16:05 PM  

N4LG4s: holdmybones: cSquids: stuhayes2010: Opacity: Rand Paul's Anus is Leaking: Oracle is systematically being wiped out by Amazon, Cisco, etc

And Salesforce... not sure which dog I'm rooting for in that fight

Ugh, Salesforce, how does software become so popular while being so poorly written and buggy?

Because it is less buggy than the competition?  CRM software has historically been complicated and buggy while not having any sense of UX at all.

Siebel forever!!!!!!

Lol @ Siebel, was farking slow and not very user friendly.

I'm still trying to figure out what Salesforece even does?


Streamlines micromanagement of sales people.
 
2017-09-12 08:50:09 PM  

holdmybones: They have no direction and nobody innovating. They're dead in the water. One could go on for days.


They'll only truly be struggling when they start laying off lawyers, as opposed to technical people.

Warms my heart, every time I hear of them having a problem.
 
2017-09-12 09:02:26 PM  

trialpha: holdmybones: They have no direction and nobody innovating. They're dead in the water. One could go on for days.

They'll only truly be struggling when they start laying off lawyers, as opposed to technical people.

Warms my heart, every time I hear of them having a problem.


True that.
 
2017-09-12 09:09:03 PM  
 
2017-09-13 01:04:23 AM  
I find it amusing that the same people who are vilifying Oracle because of Ellison are expressing such nostalgic fondness for Sun. Apparently they've forgotten that Vinod Khosla is basically a Disney villain.
 
2017-09-13 01:12:19 AM  

holdmybones: Oracle is a mess.

They want to compete with salesforce but offer nothing in improvements.

They want to compete with AWS and Azure but barely have a cloud offering to begin with and have tried to catch up via acquisition. They're gonna lose.

They want to get rid of their on prem offerings when that's the only thing they're good at.

They decided they want to compete with Splunk now (and log rhythm and the already huge SIEM market).

They have ruined the solid investments they've made (Sun).

They have no direction and nobody innovating. They're dead in the water. One could go on for days.


Accurate.
 
2017-09-13 04:41:46 AM  
BullBearMS:
A famous quote from a former Sun developer...

Anyone decrying Oracle as "evil" is falling into a trap that I have warned about: they are making the mistake of anthropomorphizing Larry Ellison -- they are infusing Oracle with humanity that it does not in fact have.


Another gem from the same guy:

If you had to explain the Nazis to someone who had never heard of World World Two but was an Oracle customer, there's a very good chance that you'd end up using an Oracle allegory.
 
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