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2017-09-05 04:13:13 AM  
Trump could still change his mind

If his mind changes could be harnessed as an energy source climate change would be solved overnight.
 
2017-09-05 04:19:07 AM  
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2017-09-05 08:00:51 AM  

fusillade762: Trump could still change his mind

If his mind changes could be harnessed as an energy source climate change would be solved overnight.


If every mind change of his was also accompanied by a burst of methane gas, the planet would be several dozen degrees warmer than today and uninhabitable by everything except for tardigrades.
 
2017-09-05 08:06:35 AM  
Trump has reportedly struggled with the decision on the future of the program, after promising on the campaign trail to end the protections

He also said he'd keep them. So there's that.

but facing strong opposition on doing so from members of his own party.

Since when has he cared what the GOP thinks?
 
2017-09-05 08:06:50 AM  
Tardigrade/Giant Isopod 2020

The vertebrates had their chance, and blew it.
 
2017-09-05 08:08:29 AM  
Y'all, you can't ridicule him for asking for advice--it is the only this shiat ship is going to stay afloat for the little people. If he just farts out whatever is in his tiny hands without ever asking for advice, we'll have the previous 8 months!
 
2017-09-05 08:09:00 AM  
Come let's get those children deported. Round em up, build a camp and get er done. We know where they live. Let's start with the homeless in Houston.

/sarcasm
 
2017-09-05 08:09:17 AM  
Protest at the White House starts in 90 minutes. I'll be there -- white dude, dark hair, tan guyabera shirt, and a green backpack. If you're in DC you should come down, even if only for your lunch break.
 
2017-09-05 08:09:30 AM  
Of course he would. This policy is farking stupid and cruel even by Trumpian standards. So of course his deplorable followers want it followed through on. Problem is when all you have is base and your base is farking stupid shiat bags you tend to wall yourself off in the corner so to speak.

/I am also curious after mass deportations who they think is going to rebuild Houston
//oh Lordy the comments
///oblige three
 
2017-09-05 08:09:51 AM  
I'm sure the Republican held House and Senate will work extra hard to help President Trump keep his promise. I know it's the first time he's had to turn to them to work something out, but I have a feeling they will have his back.
 
2017-09-05 08:11:49 AM  
He didn't have to do it. It was so stupid to do it I almost think Kelly pushed him into it. One of those high profile messes that weakens this administration.
 
2017-09-05 08:12:40 AM  
Texas is very busy with cleaning up after a hurricane, but still has time to sue the government for not being evil enough.
 
2017-09-05 08:14:22 AM  
Just rename it MAGADACA. Take the credit for it you big shifty baby, no one cares. Be a narcissist just not an evil one. We've gotten over the fact you hate everything Obama has done, just don't flush us down the drain with all your hate shiatting.
 
2017-09-05 08:18:37 AM  
Apparently the Keebler Elf will be making an announcement on DACA at 11am
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2017-09-05 08:18:46 AM  
A way out, you ask?

Resign.
 
2017-09-05 08:22:30 AM  
"Members of Congress have since promised to pass legislation to protect those impacted by the end of the program before the six-month window ends."


I'll believe it when I see it although an actual law would be better than an executive policy directive in theory depending on its robustness, I don't have any faith in this congress to implement such a law that wasn't a) riddled with exceptions and criteria that made it all but unworkable and b) tacking on either ridiculous tax cuts for the wealthy or some other nonsense.
 
2017-09-05 08:25:40 AM  
So making promises on things you don't understand isn't working out for you. Shocking!
 
2017-09-05 08:26:14 AM  
A way out?

::hums M.A.S.H. theme song::
 
2017-09-05 08:27:56 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: Trump has reportedly struggled with the decision on the future of the program, after promising on the campaign trail to end the protections

He also said he'd keep them. So there's that.

but facing strong opposition on doing so from members of his own party.

Since when has he cared what the GOP thinks?


I think the issue is that he wants to keep it but it should really be an actual law passed by congress.  Unfortunate since Obama couldn't get a law passed after enacted this as a temporary measure it's unlikely Trump can get anything passed when 3/4 of congress is openly hostile to him.  One should consider it's not exactly fair to "The Dreamers" to keep kicking the can down the road. How would you like it if they kept saying. "Well, we're not going to give you citizenship or permanent residence but we'll let you stay 4 more years while we think it over. We'll see what happens then."
 
Ant
2017-09-05 08:29:42 AM  
He could just resign. That'd be a way out.
 
2017-09-05 08:30:00 AM  

MaKaM: Y'all, you can't ridicule him for asking for advice--it is the only this shiat ship is going to stay afloat for the little people. If he just farts out whatever is in his tiny hands without ever asking for advice, we'll have the previous 8 months!


He already farted. He's asking his staff to spray some shiatrus around.
 
2017-09-05 08:30:26 AM  
A clueless cowardly president for a clueless cowardly nation.

SAD
 
2017-09-05 08:30:37 AM  
"Go back to Mexico you little Mexican!"

"This is the only country I've ever known.  I barely speak Spanish and there is literally nothing waiting for me in Mexico, I'm 30 and for 29.5 years I've lived in American.  I was an officer in the US Army ffs."

"Lol just what a beener would say!  Go back to Mexico you Mexican."
 
2017-09-05 08:30:50 AM  

dumbobruni: Apparently the Keebler Elf will be making an announcement on DACA at 11am[img.fark.net image 425x322]

Congressional Republicans expect the administration to unveil some version of this stopgap solution on Tuesday, but Mr. Trump will not make the announcement himself. Instead, Attorney General Jeff Sessions will handle it at an 11 a.m. briefing. He will not take questions from reporters.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/04/us/president-trump-daca-dreamers.​ht​ml
 
2017-09-05 08:35:56 AM  

blastoh: dumbobruni: Apparently the Keebler Elf will be making an announcement on DACA at 11am[img.fark.net image 425x322]

Congressional Republicans expect the administration to unveil some version of this stopgap solution on Tuesday, but Mr. Trump will not make the announcement himself. Instead, Attorney General Jeff Sessions will handle it at an 11 a.m. briefing. He will not take questions from reporters.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/04/us/president-trump-daca-dreamers.ht​ml


Trump is a coward what did you expect? He fires people on the most chicken shiat ways possible despite his reality show persona. Then when the fired person acts like a professional and an adult he thumps his chest about how tough he is.
 
2017-09-05 08:38:49 AM  
Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you the heartless sack of shiat that we have to call "The President of the United States".

It's leaving a really bad taste in my mouth.
 
2017-09-05 08:40:00 AM  

blastoh: dumbobruni: Apparently the Keebler Elf will be making an announcement on DACA at 11am[img.fark.net image 425x322]

Congressional Republicans expect the administration to unveil some version of this stopgap solution on Tuesday, but Mr. Trump will not make the announcement himself. Instead, Attorney General Jeff Sessions will handle it at an 11 a.m. briefing. He will not take questions from reporters.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/04/us/president-trump-daca-dreamers.ht​ml


Farking coward.
 
2017-09-05 08:40:21 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you the heartless sack of shiat that we have to call "The President of the United States".



...and his followers
 
2017-09-05 08:42:06 AM  
Wouldn't the time to ask for help or input be, and I know this sounds crazy, BEFORE you shoot your mouth off about things you clearly know nothing about?

This isn't genuine, this is him facing massive backlash even from Congress, and backing down. Trying to save face, nothing more. Glad the end result may be good, but try maybe soliciting and even listening to advice when you establish a position, not being Schrodinger's dipshiat.
 
2017-09-05 08:45:32 AM  

croesius: A way out?

::hums M.A.S.H. theme song::


Brilliant!

"Your dick is so enormous that all the ladies are terrified of it. Only the sweet release of death can help you now. Plus it would make Obama look bad."
 
2017-09-05 08:46:16 AM  
So, something I must have missed, what's all this about states suing. Are they suing to end DACA and that's why Trump is doing this? I mean, other than just to keep erasing Obama.
 
2017-09-05 08:46:26 AM  

blastoh: dumbobruni: Apparently the Keebler Elf will be making an announcement on DACA at 11am[img.fark.net image 425x322]

Congressional Republicans expect the administration to unveil some version of this stopgap solution on Tuesday, but Mr. Trump will not make the announcement himself. Instead, Attorney General Jeff Sessions will handle it at an 11 a.m. briefing. He will not take questions from reporters.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/04/us/president-trump-daca-dreamers.ht​ml


FTA:
"It's not clear what delaying this for six months means," said Mark Krikorian, an immigration hard-liner who runs the Center for Immigration Studies who has supported the president's actions to curtail immigration.

It means it will be an issue for 6 more months.  It will be in the news for 6 more months.  GOP will look feckless for 6 more months.

"He's being pulled in a bunch of different directions, and because he doesn't have any strong ideological anchor, or deep knowledge of the issue, he ends up sort of not knowing what to do," Mr. Krikorian said. "I think the fact that they did nothing to it suggests that they had no idea what to do," he added.

Clueless President is clueless.
 
2017-09-05 08:47:07 AM  

Prince George: HotWingConspiracy: Trump has reportedly struggled with the decision on the future of the program, after promising on the campaign trail to end the protections

He also said he'd keep them. So there's that.

but facing strong opposition on doing so from members of his own party.

Since when has he cared what the GOP thinks?

I think the issue is that he wants to keep it but it should really be an actual law passed by congress.  Unfortunate since Obama couldn't get a law passed after enacted this as a temporary measure it's unlikely Trump can get anything passed when 3/4 of congress is openly hostile to him.  One should consider it's not exactly fair to "The Dreamers" to keep kicking the can down the road. How would you like it if they kept saying. "Well, we're not going to give you citizenship or permanent residence but we'll let you stay 4 more years while we think it over. We'll see what happens then."


I think I'd prefer that over being deported to a country that I have no memory of ever living in.
 
2017-09-05 08:48:31 AM  

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: He didn't have to do it. It was so stupid to do it I almost think Kelly pushed him into it. One of those high profile messes that weakens this administration.


I think his hand was forced by the group of red state attorneys general who were planning to file suit against the government

Then he would be in the worse position of having to actively defend the policy in court

Thats my understanding of the situation, not an endorsement of it
 
2017-09-05 08:49:09 AM  

Snapper Carr: "Members of Congress have since promised to pass legislation to protect those impacted by the end of the program before the six-month window ends."


I'll believe it when I see it although an actual law would be better than an executive policy directive in theory depending on its robustness, I don't have any faith in this congress to implement such a law that wasn't a) riddled with exceptions and criteria that made it all but unworkable and b) tacking on either ridiculous tax cuts for the wealthy or some other nonsense.


Don't worry, they'll attach some abhorrent provision that Democrats can't in good conscience vote for, and then use that to say Dems blocked DACA legislation.
 
2017-09-05 08:50:08 AM  

WhackingDay: So, something I must have missed, what's all this about states suing. Are they suing to end DACA and that's why Trump is doing this? I mean, other than just to keep erasing Obama.


Correct. The states are claiming that providing drivers licenses are an undue burden (don't get me started)

Either Trump ends the program, or his administration defends it in court.
 
2017-09-05 08:50:09 AM  
I feel a poem coming on...
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Donald Trump needs a roundabout

method of forcing illegal immigrant children out

.

Before he expels them from our nation

He's given Congress has six months to create legislation

.

Knowing full well that, as congress stands

they can't even legislate their own butts with the direction scrawled on the back of their hands

.

That way he can say "it's a crying shame

but we can all see that congress is to blame"

.

Burma Shave

 
2017-09-05 08:50:18 AM  

WhackingDay: So, something I must have missed, what's all this about states suing. Are they suing to end DACA and that's why Trump is doing this? I mean, other than just to keep erasing Obama.


Some red states are planning to sue over DACA, but Trump is killing DACA to fulfill a campaign promise to his xenophobic base.  It turns out that Nazis HATE immigrants.  Who knew?
 
2017-09-05 08:51:53 AM  

rzrwiresunrise: Don't worry, they'll attach some abhorrent provision that Democrats can't in good conscience vote for, and then use that to say Dems blocked DACA legislation.


Apparently the plan is already this:

Money for the border wall and we will approve DACA!
 
2017-09-05 08:52:07 AM  

rzrwiresunrise: Snapper Carr: "Members of Congress have since promised to pass legislation to protect those impacted by the end of the program before the six-month window ends."


I'll believe it when I see it although an actual law would be better than an executive policy directive in theory depending on its robustness, I don't have any faith in this congress to implement such a law that wasn't a) riddled with exceptions and criteria that made it all but unworkable and b) tacking on either ridiculous tax cuts for the wealthy or some other nonsense.

Don't worry, they'll attach some abhorrent provision that Democrats can't in good conscience vote for, and then use that to say Dems blocked DACA legislation.


Most likely a huge amount of funding for Ahab's wall.
 
2017-09-05 08:55:04 AM  

dumbobruni: WhackingDay: So, something I must have missed, what's all this about states suing. Are they suing to end DACA and that's why Trump is doing this? I mean, other than just to keep erasing Obama.

Correct. The states are claiming that providing drivers licenses are an undue burden (don't get me started)

Either Trump ends the program, or his administration defends it in court.


For 800k people? Even if every single one of them wants a licence, that's still only 0.3% of US adults.
 
2017-09-05 08:55:33 AM  
FTFAPresident Trump reportedly asked aides for "a way out" regarding his decision on whether to end the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program.

So another case of Trump pussing out on a campaign promise, just like he did with "lock her up" and "build the wall." Has it occurred to any Trumpanzees yet what a remarkable b*tch-chicken their big, tough-guy alpha-dog president really is?
 
2017-09-05 08:56:21 AM  

WhackingDay: So, something I must have missed, what's all this about states suing. Are they suing to end DACA and that's why Trump is doing this? I mean, other than just to keep erasing Obama.


Some GOP held states want DACA ended.  Trump didn't want to fight them because he probably agrees with them.  Trump shot his mouth off last week expecting the GOP to unanimously cheer but he was blindsided because many people in his party agreed with the DACA policy even though they didn't speak up while Obama was President.
 
2017-09-05 08:57:33 AM  

rzrwiresunrise: Don't worry, they'll attach some abhorrent provision that Democrats can't in good conscience vote for, and then use that to say Dems blocked DACA legislation.


According to what I've seen on conservative Twitter, Democrats have no conscience and only care about DACA because it increases their voter base.
 
2017-09-05 08:59:54 AM  

Prince George: HotWingConspiracy: Trump has reportedly struggled with the decision on the future of the program, after promising on the campaign trail to end the protections

He also said he'd keep them. So there's that.

but facing strong opposition on doing so from members of his own party.

Since when has he cared what the GOP thinks?

I think the issue is that he wants to keep it but it should really be an actual law passed by congress.  Unfortunate since Obama couldn't get a law passed after enacted this as a temporary measure it's unlikely Trump can get anything passed when 3/4 of congress is openly hostile to him.  One should consider it's not exactly fair to "The Dreamers" to keep kicking the can down the road. How would you like it if they kept saying. "Well, we're not going to give you citizenship or permanent residence but we'll let you stay 4 more years while we think it over. We'll see what happens then."


Oddly enough, this is one of the few issues he could gain Democratic Party support on if he came up with a remotely palatable system for the people affected to either maintain residency or obtain citizenship.

Problem is, any remotely palatable system proposed by Trump would cause a GOP civil war. That and Trump would never propose anything other than mass deportations.
 
2017-09-05 09:04:58 AM  
Reminds me a lot of Louis XVI.   He was very indecisive, his decisions on matters often echoed whatever advisor he had talked to last, and would change day-to-day. He had no central philosophy or plan of his own & just kinda winged it all the way through his rein doing whatever his handlers told him to do. Wasnt really all that interested in policy or whatnot, just wanted to be left alone to enjoy the luxuries of the palace.

And then they cut off his head.
 
2017-09-05 09:05:52 AM  

MaKaM: Y'all, you can't ridicule him for asking for advice--it is the only this shiat ship is going to stay afloat for the little people. If he just farts out whatever is in his tiny hands without ever asking for advice, we'll have the previous 8 months!


I'd really like to re-emphasize that.  As much as a I dislike Trump, asking for a way out from having to screw over everyone under DACA is something we should celebrate.  Would it be better if he just said screw it we aren't doing that?  Sure.  But I prefer this to, "I made a derpy promise and I am gonna keep it!"
 
2017-09-05 09:09:43 AM  
Look, I hate Donnie with a white hot intensity.  I hate just about everything he does.  I even hate this decision because it means he doesn't even have the power of his own convictions to help him do the right thing if, in a moment of bombast, he promised something stupid.

But seeking advice from your advisors?  That's what they're there for.  Do you think Congresscritters actually write those bills?  They tell their staff what they want in each section, and it gets done.
 
2017-09-05 09:09:53 AM  
Trump feels bad about these poor people.

I Love My Peasants
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2017-09-05 09:15:35 AM  

MaKaM: Y'all, you can't ridicule him for asking for advice--it is the only this shiat ship is going to stay afloat for the little people. If he just farts out whatever is in his tiny hands without ever asking for advice, we'll have the previous 8 months!


In this case, you can.

He wasn't asking for advice so he could come up with the best public policy on this issue - he was looking for what would piss off his base the least.
 
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