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(The Raw Story)   White House Budget Director Mulvaney is boasting about how he tricked Donald Trump into cutting Social Security Disability benefits by telling him that SSDI was actually welfare   ( rawstory.com) divider line
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2017-09-01 09:06:33 AM  
Did subby expect that Donald would have the intellectual curiosity or any interest in determining if it was true or not? As long as "his people" tell him something it's actionable.
 
2017-09-01 09:09:35 AM  
"What's oxygen?"

"It's welfare."

"OK, we can fix that."
 
2017-09-01 09:13:17 AM  
Well, he is going to impact quite a few people in his voter base if this passes, along with people and others who are going to be punished because "stigginit". Time to call my mother up and remind her that she is a terrible human being for voting this Administration into office, especially since things like this will impact her daughters.

/love waking up to bullshiat like this
 
2017-09-01 09:13:51 AM  
As an American collecting SSDI, I'd just like to say 'Go f*ck yourself, Mulvaney. I got your welfare right here'
 
2017-09-01 09:19:53 AM  
In other news, a recent study has determined that tricking President Cheeto requires very little effort.
 
2017-09-01 09:20:15 AM  

Anastacya: with people


*who didn't vote for him, and others who are innocent (such as kids)

/FTFM
 
2017-09-01 09:23:21 AM  
My dad has been collecting SSDI for about 15 years and is a fanatical Fox Newser. I'm sure he'll find a way to blame his benefit cut on Obama though.
 
2017-09-01 09:23:49 AM  

Anastacya: Well, he is going to impact quite a few people in his voter base if this passes, along with people and others who are going to be punished because "stigginit". Time to call my mother up and remind her that she is a terrible human being for voting this Administration into office, especially since things like this will impact her daughters.

/love waking up to bullshiat like this


democrats need to tie their opponents to this and to Trump.  They won't, because, whythefarkingnotbeincompetentcampaigners, but they should.
 
2017-09-01 09:23:51 AM  
Trump has told us several times how he feels about disabled people.
 
2017-09-01 09:42:09 AM  
NO puppet, no puppet, YOU'RE the puppet.
 
2017-09-01 10:10:02 AM  
Really, subby? You really didn't know?

Really?
 
2017-09-01 10:21:38 AM  
Is this an American English vs British English thing, because it's all welfare isn't it? And "welfare" isn't a dirty word. So what's going on? Anything that helps old, poor, or injured people is "welfare". Mostly that's a good thing. Isn't it?
 
2017-09-01 10:22:34 AM  
Trump IS that incompetent and yes, we ARE all going to die.
 
2017-09-01 10:22:49 AM  
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2017-09-01 10:23:01 AM  
we already know that Donny is a farking idiot.
 
2017-09-01 10:25:55 AM  

kronicfeld: My dad has been collecting SSDI for about 15 years and is a fanatical Fox Newser. I'm sure he'll find a way to blame his benefit cut on Obama though.


Oh that's not necessary.

When I get the money, it's something I paid in for.  When you get the money, your a scamming layabout welfare queen.

  Probably driving a Cadillac yakking on your Obamaphone.

Even got a refrigerator.
 
2017-09-01 10:31:17 AM  

Slaxl: Is this an American English vs British English thing, because it's all welfare isn't it? And "welfare" isn't a dirty word. So what's going on? Anything that helps old, poor, or injured people is "welfare". Mostly that's a good thing. Isn't it?


It's an English vs. American Conservative Dog Whistle Terms thing.
 
2017-09-01 10:32:02 AM  
Is there a member of this team that isn't despicable? Anywhere? Even by accident?
 
2017-09-01 10:35:10 AM  

Slaxl: Is this an American English vs British English thing, because it's all welfare isn't it? And "welfare" isn't a dirty word. So what's going on? Anything that helps old, poor, or injured people is "welfare". Mostly that's a good thing. Isn't it?


Here in the States, when people say 'welfare', they generally mean things like food stamps and Medicaid.  Things that come out of our tax dollars.  People who collect SSDI paid into the program by working for at least 10 years.
 
2017-09-01 10:51:17 AM  
Granted, SSDI is abused at a far higher rate than normal SA, I'd rather see cuts come from greater fraud investigation and enforcement rather than across-the-board where it may effect people who actually need and deserve it.
 
2017-09-01 11:22:59 AM  
Well fark. I managed to dodge the potential Medicaid bullet by getting on Medicare before Trump became president, but this is going to screw me right good.
 
2017-09-01 11:23:18 AM  
You really think Trump cares about the disabled?
 
2017-09-01 11:23:21 AM  

rwhamann: democrats need to tie their opponents to this and to Trump.  They won't, because, whythefarkingnotbeincompetentcampaigners, but they should.


Anybody collecting SSDI who voted for Trump or Trump-approved candidates isn't going to be swayed by having their SSDI benefits cut as long as they can still hate on brown and gay people, and other poor people who aren't them. That's all that ever really mattered. Short of the DNC adopting anti-minority stances across the board, these voters will never, ever vote for Democrats.

Give it up, dude. You are not swaying these people to your side by appeals to their pocket book or their collective outrage over healthcare or the economy. They don't care about these things. That should be obvious to everyone by now.
 
2017-09-01 11:24:23 AM  
Oh come now, it's not always welfare. When white 'beetus footed rurals get it to buy them power chairs, it's the system working properly. It's only welfare when pours and browns and non-rurals want to use it. Duh.
 
2017-09-01 11:25:38 AM  
Tricked him by telling the truth?
 
2017-09-01 11:25:58 AM  

TuteTibiImperes: Granted, SSDI is abused at a far higher rate than normal SA, I'd rather see cuts come from greater fraud investigation and enforcement rather than across-the-board where it may effect people who actually need and deserve it.


That's crazytalk! Next you'll say we need to increase the IRS budget so that we can properly investigate tax fraud and help with processing!
 
2017-09-01 11:28:05 AM  
Was the sick tag busy? This is awful.
 
2017-09-01 11:28:20 AM  

wejash: kronicfeld: My dad has been collecting SSDI for about 15 years and is a fanatical Fox Newser. I'm sure he'll find a way to blame his benefit cut on Obama though.

Oh that's not necessary.

When I get the money, it's something I paid in for.  When you get the money, your a scamming layabout welfare queen.

  Probably driving a Cadillac yakking on your Obamaphone.

Even got a refrigerator.


Was content with the Smart but the fridge forced the Funny.
 
2017-09-01 11:29:01 AM  
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2017-09-01 11:30:02 AM  
Time for everyone to start tweeting about how "Republican President Donald Trump got OUTSMARTED by Mulvaney! LOL! Sad!"

That should hasten his departure considerably.
 
2017-09-01 11:30:38 AM  
It's so unfair to Mulvaney to use his words against him. Even if they are boastful, arrogant words that are used to rob earned benefits from disabled people.
 
2017-09-01 11:31:56 AM  

Slaxl: Is this an American English vs British English thing, because it's all welfare isn't it? And "welfare" isn't a dirty word. So what's going on? Anything that helps old, poor, or injured people is "welfare". Mostly that's a good thing. Isn't it?


Not in america it isn't, being poor, sick, or disabled is a moral failing to many there, you must have done something to deserve it.
 
2017-09-01 11:32:22 AM  

mainsail: Is there a member of this team that isn't despicable? Anywhere? Even by accident?


Many people are saying that the janitor is a nice guy.

/Can probably tell some stories, too
 
2017-09-01 11:32:30 AM  
FOX won't broadcast anything about this, so Trump might not find out that Mulvaney is bragging about how he tricked Donnie into breaking a campaign promise.  I can't imagine Donnie would take it well if he found out... Somebody needs to drop a dime on Mulvaney, for the giggles.
 
2017-09-01 11:32:52 AM  

wejash: kronicfeld: My dad has been collecting SSDI for about 15 years and is a fanatical Fox Newser. I'm sure he'll find a way to blame his benefit cut on Obama though.

Oh that's not necessary.

When I get the money, it's something I paid in for.  When you get the money, your a scamming layabout welfare queen.

  Probably driving a Cadillac yakking on your Obamaphone.

Even got a refrigerator.


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2017-09-01 11:33:26 AM  
Is SSDI different than "welfare" (not that term has any real meaning) in any practical manner? Is there a requirement that SSDI recipients have ever contributed to SS?
 
2017-09-01 11:34:14 AM  

cap129: Slaxl: Is this an American English vs British English thing, because it's all welfare isn't it? And "welfare" isn't a dirty word. So what's going on? Anything that helps old, poor, or injured people is "welfare". Mostly that's a good thing. Isn't it?

Here in the States, when people say 'welfare', they generally mean things like food stamps and Medicaid.  Things that come out of our tax dollars.  People who collect SSDI paid into the program by working for at least 10 years.


and here in the States,  it's mentioned (by those complaining about it) in a VERY VERY negative connotation.   lazy, shiftless, etc.
 
2017-09-01 11:34:55 AM  

kronicfeld: My dad has been collecting SSDI for about 15 years and is a fanatical Fox Newser. I'm sure he'll find a way to blame his benefit cut on Obama though.


Im not so sure.   I mean, Obama screwed up with the hurricane Katrina response, allowed 9/11 to happen and imposed sharia law while taking guns from us citizens.   What makes you think he will be blamed for something Trump's administration did?
 
2017-09-01 11:35:17 AM  

Slaxl: Is this an American English vs British English thing, because it's all welfare isn't it? And "welfare" isn't a dirty word. So what's going on? Anything that helps old, poor, or injured people is "welfare". Mostly that's a good thing. Isn't it?


Yeah, see in British english, welfare is a societies responsibility to its less fortunate citizens.

In American English, welfare is a Socialist vampire who sucks jobs out of the economy and causes abortions.
 
2017-09-01 11:35:53 AM  

cap129: Slaxl: Is this an American English vs British English thing, because it's all welfare isn't it? And "welfare" isn't a dirty word. So what's going on? Anything that helps old, poor, or injured people is "welfare". Mostly that's a good thing. Isn't it?

Here in the States, when people say 'welfare', they generally mean things like food stamps and Medicaid.  Things that come out of our tax dollars.  People who collect SSDI paid into the program by working for at least 10 years.


In addition, government programs that require a buy in (such as Medicare, SSDI, and SSI) agree referred to as "entitlements."
 
2017-09-01 11:35:56 AM  
"Mr. Trump, there are some golf courses that are sucking up a great deal of federal money."

"Eh, why should I care?  I like golf."

"It's welfare Mr. President."
 
2017-09-01 11:36:32 AM  

Moopy Mac: Is SSDI different than "welfare" (not that term has any real meaning) in any practical manner? Is there a requirement that SSDI recipients have ever contributed to SS?


https://www.ssa.gov/planners/disability/dqualify2.html     yes, there is.  and googling it took about 4 seconds (as in more time than your dipshiat question did to type out)
 
2017-09-01 11:36:40 AM  
Tricking a man who gets his foreign policy from FOX&Freinds is like beating a blind man at three card monty.
 
2017-09-01 11:37:57 AM  

Moopy Mac: Is SSDI different than "welfare" (not that term has any real meaning) in any practical manner? Is there a requirement that SSDI recipients have ever contributed to SS?


I think the only requirement for SSDI is that you actually have a disability that prevents or limits your ability to work, whereas people who receive welfare have committed the unpardonable sin of being poor.
 
2017-09-01 11:39:10 AM  

Slaxl: Is this an American English vs British English thing, because it's all welfare isn't it? And "welfare" isn't a dirty word. So what's going on? Anything that helps old, poor, or injured people is "welfare". Mostly that's a good thing. Isn't it?


It's an American English & British English vs. Conservative English thing.

"Welfare" in Conservative English means "stealing my money to give it to one of 'those' people so they can buy skrimps and weave and Cadillacs."
 
2017-09-01 11:41:38 AM  
President Mulvaney is doing a great job. He really gets things done. I can't say enough good things about President Mulvaney. He really kicked ass in that election.

I'm sorry. Donald who?
 
2017-09-01 11:42:54 AM  

Slaxl: Is this an American English vs British English thing, because it's all welfare isn't it? And "welfare" isn't a dirty word. So what's going on? Anything that helps old, poor, or injured people is "welfare". Mostly that's a good thing. Isn't it?


More of an American cultural vs British cultural thing.

In America, some people think "welfare" means "free money for black people," and have had that thought for over 35 years because of Reagan and the myth of the "welfare queen." The Venn diagram of people who think that way and white people who hate black people more than they love their own children is a concentric circle -- a bunch of them marched on Charlottesville a few weeks ago and murdered Heather Heyer and two cops.

/HOW the police helicopter crashed is irrelevant. WHEN it crashed is why the cops' deaths was murder
 
2017-09-01 11:43:01 AM  
Like I said, Trump's not running the show. He's signing what his handlers bring him, and enacting what his handlers convince him to enact - he's not the "idea guy," he's the CEO, y'see, and if a friendly face tells him that he should do this or say that, well, that's what he does, and if it makes him look or feel bad afterwards, he just fires the friendly face and gets another friendly face to tell him what to do and say.

Why do you think he keeps handing off parts of his job to his kids? He trusts them. He has no goddamned clue about the vast majority of how government happens, and so he just handwaves it to someone else because, hey, he's the Boss, the King, Numero Uno, the Big Cheese, the Head Honcho - he's not required to know, he's got people for that.

That's the kind of president the average Trump supporter thinks should be running things.
 
2017-09-01 11:43:16 AM  
Somehow the system i pay into is welfare

Makes sense if you don't think about it
 
2017-09-01 11:43:17 AM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: As an American collecting SSDI, I'd just like to say 'Go f*ck yourself, Mulvaney. I got your welfare right here'


I'm not collecting SSDI but I sympathize with you.  Fark will not allow the kind of words that I want to say about that Mulvaney guy.  I don't know if I have ever been this angry reading a news article before.
 
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