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2017-08-23 03:11:49 AM  
Branch Dildonians, subby.
 
2017-08-23 03:37:17 AM  
I wonder what the prosecutor botched this time.
 
2017-08-23 03:38:09 AM  
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2017-08-23 03:59:30 AM  

Kouta: I wonder what the prosecutor botched this time.


Prosecuting innocent men and women in their constitutionally protected bid to collect enough dildos to create a dick ship to take them back to dick planet.
 
2017-08-23 04:17:41 AM  
Civil trial.
 
2017-08-23 05:08:04 AM  
This triggers the left.
 
2017-08-23 06:51:58 AM  
Me, just concerned that lawless behavior by armed men threatening federal employees will lead to bloodshed.
 
2017-08-23 07:45:05 AM  
Al?
 
2017-08-23 07:46:31 AM  

AirForceVet: Me, just concerned that lawless behavior by armed men threatening federal employees will lead to bloodshed.


If it leads to toppling Der Trumpenfuhrer, I'm not sure i'm entirely against it.
 
2017-08-23 07:47:19 AM  
These trials are dildos.
 
2017-08-23 07:48:05 AM  

Kit Fister: If it leads to toppling Der Trumpenfuhrer, I'm not sure i'm entirely against it.


I am.  Once we go that route, all bets are off.
 
2017-08-23 07:53:48 AM  
Doesn't that feel about 10 years ago? So much has happened in the last 12 months...
 
2017-08-23 07:54:28 AM  
Think about this the next time you're looking for a dodge out of jury duty (or even a Chevy for that matter).
 
2017-08-23 07:55:11 AM  
And a jury let Casey Anthony off the hook too. Justice is dead in this country.
 
2017-08-23 07:55:51 AM  

davidphogan: [images0.nightshift.co image 675x444]


You don't really know what this was a trial for, do you?

/P.S. Subby, zero convictions all four acquitted of the serious charges.  All four released tonight.  Feds and the judge that cut off a defendants testimony just got a less in trial by peers.  The judges agreement with proecutor objections really didn't sit well with jurors.
 
2017-08-23 07:56:18 AM  

Johnny Rockets: This triggers the left.


Not really, it's disappointing, but ultimately a consequence of trial by a jury of their peers.

Their peers are potato-Americans, too.

/Obligatory Friends of Malheur donation link.
//Malheur turned 109 recently; I'd have submitted a link if I'd noticed the newsletter in my inbox in a timely fashion.
///I didn't, obvs.
 
2017-08-23 08:01:47 AM  
What the fark? If these idiots had been an armed group of black "patriots" how many do you think would've even gotten as far as a courtroom? Would law enforcement have allowed THEM to just "occupy" a federal building with weapons? The hypocrisy stinks.
 
2017-08-23 08:02:45 AM  

Kouta: I wonder what the prosecutor botched this time.


The judge.  Court set ground rules.  The defendant was tetifying and started talking about what he saw.  Prosecution objected.  And right there, one pissed off judge, in front of the jury, ordered the defendant off the stand, ordered the testimony stricken from the record.  Defendant sat down and appeared to be weeping as that was his defense.  Jury said "fark that - too much BS if he can't relate what he saw.  Not guilty."  Court observer were aghast.  Defense attorneys refused to give closing arguments after judges actions.
 
2017-08-23 08:07:11 AM  

tbeatty: You don't really know what this was a trial for, do you?


It was a bunch of welfare queens mooching off the government's teat, unwilling to pay their way for public land/services they were making use of.

Right?
 
2017-08-23 08:07:30 AM  
The second jury just hit the Dildo trial!
 
2017-08-23 08:07:42 AM  
Oh, and also threatening federal agents, too.
 
d23 [BareFark]
2017-08-23 08:10:45 AM  
So... apparently you don't have to follow the law if you don't like it any more.

Welcome to West Somalia.
 
2017-08-23 08:22:46 AM  

tbeatty: Kouta: I wonder what the prosecutor botched this time.

The judge.  Court set ground rules.  The defendant was tetifying and started talking about what he saw.  Prosecution objected.  And right there, one pissed off judge, in front of the jury, ordered the defendant off the stand, ordered the testimony stricken from the record.  Defendant sat down and appeared to be weeping as that was his defense.  Jury said "fark that - too much BS if he can't relate what he saw.  Not guilty."  Court observer were aghast.  Defense attorneys refused to give closing arguments after judges actions.


I the Oregon case, prosecutors farked up by bringing charges that didn't really fit the conduct.

Here, I think you are right that the circus created by the judge trying to put his thumb on the scale for the prosecution may have backfired.

I only say "may" because there are idiots in this country who think pointing guns at federal employees is ok and the defendants may have gotten off regardless.
 
2017-08-23 08:25:32 AM  
Y'all see this photo of this man? Shows he's a pointin' a rifle but it don' show what he's a-pointin' it at! It could be communist. It could be Islam-mo-fascists. We don't know cause we aint there. Only this true Patriot of the Constitution of the Yoo-nighted States was there. Yes. The prosecution will show yoo another photo of what this true man of the Constitution was aimin' at and they'll say it's Federal Officers. But we've all seen Men in Black. How many of them federal officers were aliens with their mechanical hearts a-pumping with the hatred to destroy this great nation?

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Now, unless yoo like aliens what want to destroy our way of life, or Islamofascists or communists, you must let this Patriotic Son o' the Soil go. May Jesus bless you with the knowledge that he has given me.
 
2017-08-23 08:25:55 AM  
 

seapig: What the fark? If these idiots had been an armed group of black "patriots" how many do you think would've even gotten as far as a courtroom? Would law enforcement have allowed THEM to just "occupy" a federal building with weapons? The hypocrisy stinks.


FBI stats show that cops shoot at black criminals at a lower rate than white criminals. So it seems more likely that an equivalent group of black "patriots" would have been just fine.
 
2017-08-23 08:28:18 AM  

Orionblamblam: seapig: What the fark? If these idiots had been an armed group of black "patriots" how many do you think would've even gotten as far as a courtroom? Would law enforcement have allowed THEM to just "occupy" a federal building with weapons? The hypocrisy stinks.

FBI stats show that cops shoot at black criminals at a lower rate than white criminals. So it seems more likely that an equivalent group of black "patriots" would have been just fine.


The "analysis" in your linked article is lacking.
 
2017-08-23 08:30:15 AM  

Number 216: And a jury let Casey Anthony off the hook too. Justice is dead in this country.


So, you have no idea what "beyond a reasonable doubt" means; therefore, you believe just because it looks like someone may have committed a crime then that person is obviously guilty.  The irony is you lament the "lack of Justice".

In short, you're ignorant.
 
2017-08-23 08:32:26 AM  

Gary-L: Number 216: And a jury let Casey Anthony off the hook too. Justice is dead in this country.

So, you have no idea what "beyond a reasonable doubt" means; therefore, you believe just because it looks like someone may have committed a crime then that person is obviously guilty.  The irony is you lament the "lack of Justice".

In short, you're ignorant.


Looking in a mirror while typing? You definitely sound as ignorant as you're attempting to make others out to be.
 
2017-08-23 08:34:14 AM  
Ever sat on a jury? Not surprising in the least.
 
2017-08-23 08:36:10 AM  

d23: So... apparently you don't have to follow the law if you don't like it any more.

Welcome to West Somalia.


And the government can just keep retrying you until it gets the verdict it wants.

But hey, why let something like that get in the way of your righteous indignation ?

/I would like them convicted too, but not as if it's a kangaroo court in the third world
 
2017-08-23 08:39:27 AM  

tbeatty: davidphogan: [images0.nightshift.co image 675x444]

You don't really know what this was a trial for, do you?

/P.S. Subby, zero convictions all four acquitted of the serious charges.  All four released tonight.  Feds and the judge that cut off a defendants testimony just got a less in trial by peers.  The judges agreement with proecutor objections really didn't sit well with jurors.


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2017-08-23 08:42:56 AM  
They didn't say if snacks would be served...
 
2017-08-23 08:44:03 AM  

Gary-L: Number 216: And a jury let Casey Anthony off the hook too. Justice is dead in this country.

So, you have no idea what "beyond a reasonable doubt" means; therefore, you believe just because it looks like someone may have committed a crime then that person is obviously guilty.  The irony is you lament the "lack of Justice".

In short, you're ignorant.


I followed the case at the time, and the defense arguments in the Casey Anthony case really made no sense if you looked at them through the lens of actual critical thought.  There was plenty of evidence pointing to Casey Anthony, and the alternative theory posited by the defense was backed up by zero evidence.  The defense made an appeal to the "CSI effect" -- the unrealistic expectations that people have about the types of evidence typically available that are created/perpetuated by fiction.

I have done criminal jury trials, and they usually get it right.  But not always.  And when they get it wrong, it's ok for people to say so.
 
2017-08-23 09:04:48 AM  

Carousel Beast: And the government can just keep retrying you until it gets the verdict it wants.


A mistrial does not trigger jeopardy.  It means neither side won, so we do things over should the prosecution choose to go forward with the trial.
 
2017-08-23 09:08:04 AM  
But remember, folks - white privilege still isn't a thing.
 
2017-08-23 09:14:27 AM  
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2017-08-23 09:16:59 AM  
Man those farkwits are some of the biggliest hypocrits around.  Federal land should be for the citizens of the county!  Er, but until that happens I'll just, well use it for free right now.
 
2017-08-23 09:22:36 AM  
Anyone ever find out what happened to that 55 gallon drum of lube?

/Asking for a friend...
 
2017-08-23 09:23:14 AM  

iron de havilland: tbeatty: You don't really know what this was a trial for, do you?

It was a bunch of welfare queens mooching off the government's teat, unwilling to pay their way for public land/services they were making use of.

Right?


Right.
 
2017-08-23 09:27:19 AM  
So what?  Those guys are like a fart in the wind.

They stink for a second and are gone forever.
 
2017-08-23 09:30:08 AM  

iron de havilland: It was a bunch of welfare queens mooching off the government's teat, unwilling to pay their way for public land/services they were making use of.

Right?


None of the defendants in this case were grazing cattle on public lands here, so no.  There were the ones that were there because they don't like the federal land managers.
 
2017-08-23 09:31:56 AM  

HeadLever: iron de havilland: It was a bunch of welfare queens mooching off the government's teat, unwilling to pay their way for public land/services they were making use of.

Right?

None of the defendants in this case were grazing cattle on public lands here, so no.  There were the ones that were there because they don't like the federal land managers.


BLM?
 
2017-08-23 09:40:26 AM  

Phelon Hardtimes: BLM?


I am sure that is one of the agencies that they don't like.  You can probably also add in USFS, Park Service, and probably a slew of State managers while you are at it.
 
2017-08-23 09:42:42 AM  

iron de havilland: tbeatty: You don't really know what this was a trial for, do you?

It was a bunch of welfare queens mooching off the government's teat, unwilling to pay their way for public land/services they were making use of.


It's cute that you have to answer for him.  When does his mommy get home?
 
2017-08-23 09:43:01 AM  

borland502: Federal land should be for the citizens of the county!  Er, but until that happens I'll just, well use it for free right now.


Depending upon what your 'use' is, you can, legally.  Things like hunting, fishing, camping, etc are all free.
 
2017-08-23 09:46:21 AM  
What a dildonian may look like -

<I won't post it, but apparently remote controlled drones with a 'dildonian' attachment on a pole are now available for purchase, who'da thunk it?!>
 
2017-08-23 09:54:06 AM  

HeadLever: borland502: Federal land should be for the citizens of the county!  Er, but until that happens I'll just, well use it for free right now.

Depending upon what your 'use' is, you can, legally.  Things like hunting, fishing, camping, etc are all free.


Pretty sure you need to buy a license to fish and hunt pretty much everywhere in this country and you may be able to camp for free in some places but a lot of places charge a nominal fee.
 
2017-08-23 09:57:42 AM  

flynn80: Pretty sure you need to buy a license to fish and hunt pretty much everywhere in this country and you may be able to camp for free in some places but a lot of places charge a nominal fee.


Hunting and fishing licenses are the jurisdiction of the state wildlife agencies, not the federal land managers.  If the state says you don't need a license to hunt/fish (which can be the case in many areas for predators/varmints and/or trash fish), it all will be free.

Where I am at, camping areas can only charge for the spots if they have a developed water source and toilet facilities.
 
2017-08-23 10:07:38 AM  

HeadLever: borland502: Federal land should be for the citizens of the county!  Er, but until that happens I'll just, well use it for free right now.

Depending upon what your 'use' is, you can, legally.  Things like hunting, fishing, camping, etc are all free.


Well, their definition of use is "mine in all but name".
 
2017-08-23 10:09:04 AM  

flynn80: HeadLever: borland502: Federal land should be for the citizens of the county!  Er, but until that happens I'll just, well use it for free right now.

Depending upon what your 'use' is, you can, legally.  Things like hunting, fishing, camping, etc are all free.

Pretty sure you need to buy a license to fish and hunt pretty much everywhere in this country and you may be able to camp for free in some places but a lot of places charge a nominal fee.


It depends on where you are for camping. In more populated areas, yes, there's a fee, but it's usually nominal and just to help ration limited facilities and/or to help pay for the upkeep of improvements. Out west there are a great number of primitive camping sites you just roll up to that are free.
 
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