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(New York Daily News)   The woman killed in yesterday's domestic terrorist attack, Heather Heyer, had this to say for her last Facebook post: "If you're not outraged, you're not paying attention"   ( nydailynews.com) divider line
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2017-08-13 09:19:18 AM  
Prophetic words to be remembered by. R.I.P.

\ vote this up, mods rejected my similar attempt
 
2017-08-13 09:22:04 AM  
This farking sucks, poor girl and I feel terrible for her family.
 
2017-08-13 09:31:41 AM  
This time we should remember the victim instead of the criminal racist. He should be called Heather Heyer's racist killer in media stories.
 
2017-08-13 09:54:40 AM  

holdmybones: This time we should remember the victim instead of the criminal racist. He should be called Heather Heyer's racist killer in media stories.


I'd prefer "Heather Heyer's Nazi killer" myself. Point well taken otherwise.
 
2017-08-13 10:03:05 AM  
Push for "Heather's Law" to revoke the "its perfectly legal to run over protesters" laws that were enacted last year around the country.
 
2017-08-13 10:05:56 AM  

holdmybones: This time we should remember the victim instead of the criminal racist. He should be called Heather Heyer's racist killer in media stories.


He should be called a domestic terrorist.  He committed an act of terrorism.
 
2017-08-13 10:10:18 AM  

Munden: holdmybones: This time we should remember the victim instead of the criminal racist. He should be called Heather Heyer's racist killer in media stories.

He should be called a domestic terrorist.  He committed an act of terrorism.


"the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims."

Yep, the shoe fits alright.
 
2017-08-13 10:15:06 AM  
Worse thing is she wasn't even protesting. She worked there, and was just crossing the street.

I hope her Nazi killer does hard time, and I hope the President finally mans up and condemns Nazi's and White Supremacists as the Terroristic scum they are.
 
2017-08-13 10:21:12 AM  

Private_Citizen: ... I hope the President finally mans up...


Don't hold your breath.
 
2017-08-13 10:30:35 AM  
She wasn't wrong.

These racist sh*tbags decided to hold their vigil and rally in order to test the waters to see if they could start poking their heads out, and chose what they thought would be a friendlier locale, than say New York or Chicago, or even Boston, and they got an overwhelming response, despite coming loaded for bear and getting recruits from across the country, and in response, this f*cking coward, decides, "hey, I know what will stop them! MY CAR!"

Because running into a crowd with a vehicle is the objectively rational response to folks shouting you down when you decide that you want to start beating on Mud People again.

This isn't a "both sides are bad" sort of thing. If you weren't already shocked at this vigil and march, then outrage is the only correct response with a fella deciding that vehicular homicide was an appropriate response to protestors.

This isn't about "taking back the country" or "making America great" this is about mowing down innocent people because you're mad that your message of bigotry and hate isn't well received. And if folks start swinging at your Nazi chucklef*ck faces IMMEDIATELY following this mess, then you need to be extraordinarily thankful that folks are giving you the chance to run from this, because punching Nazis in the gob when they show up is back on the menu folks, and y'all put it there. In big letters.

It's not even about nationalism, because the nation that they want ISN'T America. It's not in keeping with any of our values. This is about insurrection and open hate of everything this country stands for. Maybe Dickie Spencer will be able to secure you a little patch of ground in Europe to retreat to, or maybe y'all could just grow the f*ck up...
 
2017-08-13 10:32:34 AM  

hubiestubert: She wasn't wrong.

These racist sh*tbags decided to hold their vigil and rally in order to test the waters to see if they could start poking their heads out, and chose what they thought would be a friendlier locale, than say New York or Chicago, or even Boston, and they got an overwhelming response, despite coming loaded for bear and getting recruits from across the country, and in response, this f*cking coward, decides, "hey, I know what will stop them! MY CAR!"

Because running into a crowd with a vehicle is the objectively rational response to folks shouting you down when you decide that you want to start beating on Mud People again.

This isn't a "both sides are bad" sort of thing. If you weren't already shocked at this vigil and march, then outrage is the only correct response with a fella deciding that vehicular homicide was an appropriate response to protestors.

This isn't about "taking back the country" or "making America great" this is about mowing down innocent people because you're mad that your message of bigotry and hate isn't well received. And if folks start swinging at your Nazi chucklef*ck faces IMMEDIATELY following this mess, then you need to be extraordinarily thankful that folks are giving you the chance to run from this, because punching Nazis in the gob when they show up is back on the menu folks, and y'all put it there. In big letters.

It's not even about nationalism, because the nation that they want ISN'T America. It's not in keeping with any of our values. This is about insurrection and open hate of everything this country stands for. Maybe Dickie Spencer will be able to secure you a little patch of ground in Europe to retreat to, or maybe y'all could just grow the f*ck up...


This.
 
2017-08-13 10:35:09 AM  
We should replace Lee's statue with a statue of her.
 
2017-08-13 10:36:00 AM  
Don't anybody tell these Whataboutist nimrods about Blues Brothers, or they'll say "SEE!!! YOUR SIDE DOES IT TOO!!!"

"I Hate Illinois Nazis"
Youtube ulCw7RJ5eE8
 
2017-08-13 10:36:07 AM  

GardenWeasel: Push for "Heather's Law" to revoke the "its perfectly legal to run over protesters" laws that were enacted last year around the country.


I am horrified that that is a thing and this is the first time im hearing about it
 
2017-08-13 10:37:57 AM  

Non Sequitur Man: We should replace Lee's statue with a statue of her.


I'd donate.
 
2017-08-13 10:38:27 AM  
Muslim drives a car into a crowd in London or Paris. Result: Shiatstorm of Trump tweets.
Racist drives a car into a crowd of anti-racists, anti-fascists and propenents of justice and toleration. Beep. Beep. Boop. Boop.

Muslim bombs something in Sweden or Iraq. Result: Shiatstorm of Trump tweets.
White French Canadian Cracker attacks a mosque in Quebec City: Peep. Peep. Peep. Nary a sound from Trump.

Rally of murderous racist, bigoted, fascist, haters of all kinds in Charlottesberg USA: There are bad people on all sides. Apparently mostly on the side of anti-fascist demonstrators because to a Trump, these people are base. They are not to be offended by frank support for liberal, tolerant, and American values.

Read the white space inbetween the lines. It tells you who Trump really is. It tells you who the "Christians" really are. The spirit of Antichrist deceives those who declare themselves the Elect.
 
2017-08-13 10:38:31 AM  

hubiestubert: And if folks start swinging at your Nazi chucklef*ck faces IMMEDIATELY following this mess, then you need to be extraordinarily thankful that folks are giving you the chance to run from this, because punching Nazis in the gob when they show up is back on the menu folks, and y'all put it there. In big letters.


While I don't disagree with you, there needs to be different tactics right now from the counter-protesters.

The Nazis are just begging for things to get violent so Trump can bring down martial law.  That's one step closer to their dreams of legally being able to kill people.

I don't know what's being planned on Sept. 16th, which I think is the big Nazi march on DC, but I hope people consult some of the civil rights leaders of that day for what to do before this really gets out of hand.
 
2017-08-13 10:39:55 AM  

Private_Citizen: Worse thing is she wasn't even protesting. She worked there, and was just crossing the street.


God, that's terrible.
 
2017-08-13 10:40:16 AM  
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2017-08-13 10:40:47 AM  

nekom: Munden: holdmybones: This time we should remember the victim instead of the criminal racist. He should be called Heather Heyer's racist killer in media stories.

He should be called a domestic terrorist.  He committed an act of terrorism.

"the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims."

Yep, the shoe fits alright.


VA has some strong anti terrorism laws and could seek the death penalty or life in prison. Hope the VA governor orders review for charging as a terrorist. There is no mow down protestors protection law in VA.
 
2017-08-13 10:41:09 AM  
Sadly, I feel a poem coming on...
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Trump can't save us from the Nazi

He's confounded by the rules of Yahtzee

.

He did come out pretty quick

with a vague response that made most of us kind of sick

.

So, militias in the guise of making people more free

are gearing up to rid us of our democracy

.

Their message is something most don't want to hear

Their supporting evidence is simply violence and fear.

 
2017-08-13 10:43:12 AM  

Glitchwerks: hubiestubert: And if folks start swinging at your Nazi chucklef*ck faces IMMEDIATELY following this mess, then you need to be extraordinarily thankful that folks are giving you the chance to run from this, because punching Nazis in the gob when they show up is back on the menu folks, and y'all put it there. In big letters.

While I don't disagree with you, there needs to be different tactics right now from the counter-protesters.

The Nazis are just begging for things to get violent so Trump can bring down martial law.  That's one step closer to their dreams of legally being able to kill people.

I don't know what's being planned on Sept. 16th, which I think is the big Nazi march on DC, but I hope people consult some of the civil rights leaders of that day for what to do before this really gets out of hand.


This.

http://teachingamericanhistory.org/library/document/the-power-of-non-​v​iolence/
 
2017-08-13 10:44:09 AM  

bigfatbuddhist: Sadly, I feel a poem coming on...
[cdn.theatlantic.com image 850x614]Trump can't save us from the NaziHe's confounded by the rules of Yahtzee.He did come out pretty quickwith a vague response that made most of us kind of sick.So, militias in the guise of making people more freeare gearing up to rid us of our democracy.Their message is something most don't want to hearTheir supporting evidence is simply violence and fear.


Burma shave?
 
2017-08-13 10:44:54 AM  

That Guy What Stole the Bacon: Private_Citizen: ... I hope the President finally mans up...

Don't hold your breath.


Now now. We need to condemn in the strongest terms violence on all sides, including the sides of protesters and bystanders who do violence with their bodies to the bumper and tires of cars driven by Nazi terrorists.
 
2017-08-13 10:46:00 AM  
I'm waiting for these disgusting people to start digging up information about Ms. Heyer in some attempt to smear her name. And I hope that people will shut that shiat down, quick.

I hope that this is a watershed and the point where sanity starts to prevail and we start naming and shaming these assholes who descend upon a town to espouse their violent and bigoted beliefs. These people need to face punishment for choosing to embrace an ideology that we, as a country, smacked down 70+ years ago. No, you are not defending your "heritage". No, you are not "making America great again". America has its issues, but it was doing fine becoming a cultural melting pot and advancing along until stupidity came into fashion. Hiccups happened, but we were getting by.

And as to the comment upthread about enacting a "Heather's Law" for the hitting pedestrians laws... I honestly thought those were some sort of Onion article when I read those last night. I looked it up and holy shiat. How did anyone not realize that those are one of the worst ideas ever?
 
2017-08-13 10:46:05 AM  
Why won't Trump say "domestic terrorism"? What is he hiding?
 
2017-08-13 10:47:19 AM  

Gyrfalcon: Why won't Trump say "domestic terrorism"? What is he hiding?


A soul made of nicotine and rotten banana peels?
 
2017-08-13 10:47:23 AM  
She's right, both sides are bad!

/S
 
2017-08-13 10:48:30 AM  

Glitchwerks: Sept. 16th, which I think is the big Nazi march on DC


I'm sure Americans of Mexican heritage will appreciate Nazischweine holding a march on Mexico's Independence Day.
 
2017-08-13 10:48:50 AM  

italie: Gyrfalcon: Why won't Trump say "domestic terrorism"? What is he hiding?

A soul made of nicotine and rotten banana peels?


That's too nice of a description for Steve Bannon
 
2017-08-13 10:48:51 AM  

italie: This.

http://teachingamericanhistory.org/library/document/the-power-of-non-v​iolence/


Obviously I can't argue with any of that but:

A boycott is never an end within itself. It is merely a means to awaken a sense of shame within the oppressor but the end is reconciliation, the end is redemption.

I just don't think these people have any shame.  I mean, look at all the people defending Nazis on these boards.
 
2017-08-13 10:49:23 AM  

Gyrfalcon: Why won't Trump say "domestic terrorism"? What is he hiding?


His racism?
 
2017-08-13 10:49:51 AM  

hubiestubert: She wasn't wrong.

These racist sh*tbags decided to hold their vigil and rally in order to test the waters to see if they could start poking their heads out, and chose what they thought would be a friendlier locale, than say New York or Chicago, or even Boston, and they got an overwhelming response, despite coming loaded for bear and getting recruits from across the country, and in response, this f*cking coward, decides, "hey, I know what will stop them! MY CAR!"

Because running into a crowd with a vehicle is the objectively rational response to folks shouting you down when you decide that you want to start beating on Mud People again.

This isn't a "both sides are bad" sort of thing. If you weren't already shocked at this vigil and march, then outrage is the only correct response with a fella deciding that vehicular homicide was an appropriate response to protestors.

This isn't about "taking back the country" or "making America great" this is about mowing down innocent people because you're mad that your message of bigotry and hate isn't well received. And if folks start swinging at your Nazi chucklef*ck faces IMMEDIATELY following this mess, then you need to be extraordinarily thankful that folks are giving you the chance to run from this, because punching Nazis in the gob when they show up is back on the menu folks, and y'all put it there. In big letters.

It's not even about nationalism, because the nation that they want ISN'T America. It's not in keeping with any of our values. This is about insurrection and open hate of everything this country stands for. Maybe Dickie Spencer will be able to secure you a little patch of ground in Europe to retreat to, or maybe y'all could just grow the f*ck up...


img.fark.netView Full Size
 
2017-08-13 10:50:10 AM  

GardenWeasel: Push for "Heather's Law" to revoke the "its perfectly legal to run over protesters" laws that were enacted last year around the country.

I'm surprised there isn't a poster, like the 9/11 hijackers, of all the fine legislators who proposed all those fine bills.  And their states, for the tourism/convention trade.
 
2017-08-13 10:50:19 AM  
Hero?  Why is she a hero?  Because she got killed in an act of ter.... er, by a lone-wolf crazy person exercising his God-given right to free speech?  I like people that weren't killed in an a....by a lone-wolf crazy person exercising his God-given right to free speech.

Believe me.
 
2017-08-13 10:50:37 AM  

Private_Citizen: Worse thing is she wasn't even protesting. She worked there, and was just crossing the street.

I hope her Nazi killer does hard time, and I hope the President finally mans up and condemns Nazi's and White Supremacists as the Terroristic scum they are.


He's not going to condemn them, because he himself is very racist, and I would not be surprised if he's a white supremacist as well.

I'm not being hyperbolic in this case either; there are plenty of examples of his racism throughout the years. Most of them are in conjunction with his real estate ventures.
 
2017-08-13 10:50:46 AM  

Glitchwerks: hubiestubert: And if folks start swinging at your Nazi chucklef*ck faces IMMEDIATELY following this mess, then you need to be extraordinarily thankful that folks are giving you the chance to run from this, because punching Nazis in the gob when they show up is back on the menu folks, and y'all put it there. In big letters.

While I don't disagree with you, there needs to be different tactics right now from the counter-protesters.

The Nazis are just begging for things to get violent so Trump can bring down martial law.  That's one step closer to their dreams of legally being able to kill people.

I don't know what's being planned on Sept. 16th, which I think is the big Nazi march on DC, but I hope people consult some of the civil rights leaders of that day for what to do before this really gets out of hand.


A media blackout of their March and counter protestors who outnumber the fascists carrying no signs, completely quiet, just staring them down.  Back to the days of Martin Luther King Jr. of peaceful protest.
 
2017-08-13 10:50:56 AM  

MyMindIsGoingDave: bigfatbuddhist: Sadly, I feel a poem coming on...
[cdn.theatlantic.com image 850x614]Trump can't save us from the NaziHe's confounded by the rules of Yahtzee.He did come out pretty quickwith a vague response that made most of us kind of sick.So, militias in the guise of making people more freeare gearing up to rid us of our democracy.Their message is something most don't want to hearTheir supporting evidence is simply violence and fear.

Burma shave?


Not this time.
 
2017-08-13 10:51:15 AM  

Gyrfalcon: Why won't Trump say "domestic terrorism"? What is he hiding?


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2017-08-13 10:51:43 AM  
 
2017-08-13 10:52:04 AM  

brantgoose: Muslim drives a car into a crowd in London or Paris. Result: Shiatstorm of Trump tweets.
Racist drives a car into a crowd of anti-racists, anti-fascists and propenents of justice and toleration. Beep. Beep. Boop. Boop.

Muslim bombs something in Sweden or Iraq. Result: Shiatstorm of Trump tweets.
White French Canadian Cracker attacks a mosque in Quebec City: Peep. Peep. Peep. Nary a sound from Trump.

Rally of murderous racist, bigoted, fascist, haters of all kinds in Charlottesberg USA: There are bad people on all sides. Apparently mostly on the side of anti-fascist demonstrators because to a Trump, these people are base. They are not to be offended by frank support for liberal, tolerant, and American values.

Read the white space inbetween the lines. It tells you who Trump really is. It tells you who the "Christians" really are. The spirit of Antichrist deceives those who declare themselves the Elect.


I'll remind everyone Trump ALSO whargarbled about Muslim terrorism when it was actually a robbery gone wrong and the building caught on fire in the Philippines.

And to steal from someone's tweet:

Trump's week:
✓Threatened nuclear war.
✓Threatened Venezuela.
✓Thanked Putin for expelling US diplomats.
✓"Many sides" after neo-Nazi murder.
 
2017-08-13 10:52:11 AM  

brantgoose: Muslim drives a car into a crowd in London or Paris. Result: Shiatstorm of Trump tweets.
Racist drives a car into a crowd of anti-racists, anti-fascists and propenents of justice and toleration. Beep. Beep. Boop. Boop.

Muslim bombs something in Sweden or Iraq. Result: Shiatstorm of Trump tweets.
White French Canadian Cracker attacks a mosque in Quebec City: Peep. Peep. Peep. Nary a sound from Trump.

Rally of murderous racist, bigoted, fascist, haters of all kinds in Charlottesberg USA: There are bad people on all sides. Apparently mostly on the side of anti-fascist demonstrators because to a Trump, these people are base. They are not to be offended by frank support for liberal, tolerant, and American values.

Read the white space inbetween the lines. It tells you who Trump really is. It tells you who the "Christians" really are. The spirit of Antichrist deceives those who declare themselves the Elect.


Tis a crazy world we live in, never in my wildest dreams would I have believed that I would get up today and not only read a brantgoose post but smart it as well.

What is this world coming to?
 
2017-08-13 10:53:58 AM  

Boo_Guy: She's right, both sides are bad!

/S


You forgot and s!

LMFTFY

"/SS"
 
2017-08-13 10:53:59 AM  

Glitchwerks: italie: This.

http://teachingamericanhistory.org/library/document/the-power-of-non-v​iolence/

Obviously I can't argue with any of that but:

A boycott is never an end within itself. It is merely a means to awaken a sense of shame within the oppressor but the end is reconciliation, the end is redemption.

I just don't think these people have any shame.  I mean, look at all the people defending Nazis on these boards.


I don't disagree, but you can't give them what they want. That only results in a self perpetuating scenario where escalations continue ad-infinitum.
 
2017-08-13 10:54:47 AM  

Non Sequitur Man: We should replace Lee's statue with a statue of her.


This is a farken great idea. Id donate too. A lot.
 
2017-08-13 10:57:00 AM  

weddingsinger: brantgoose: Muslim drives a car into a crowd in London or Paris. Result: Shiatstorm of Trump tweets.
Racist drives a car into a crowd of anti-racists, anti-fascists and propenents of justice and toleration. Beep. Beep. Boop. Boop.

Muslim bombs something in Sweden or Iraq. Result: Shiatstorm of Trump tweets.
White French Canadian Cracker attacks a mosque in Quebec City: Peep. Peep. Peep. Nary a sound from Trump.

Rally of murderous racist, bigoted, fascist, haters of all kinds in Charlottesberg USA: There are bad people on all sides. Apparently mostly on the side of anti-fascist demonstrators because to a Trump, these people are base. They are not to be offended by frank support for liberal, tolerant, and American values.

Read the white space inbetween the lines. It tells you who Trump really is. It tells you who the "Christians" really are. The spirit of Antichrist deceives those who declare themselves the Elect.

I'll remind everyone Trump ALSO whargarbled about Muslim terrorism when it was actually a robbery gone wrong and the building caught on fire in the Philippines.

And to steal from someone's tweet:

Trump's week:
✓Threatened nuclear war.
✓Threatened Venezuela.
✓Thanked Putin for expelling US diplomats.
✓"Many sides" after neo-Nazi murder.


Didn't he also blame Islamic terrorism for the Quebec mosque shooting, before it came out that the shooter was a white "alt-right" Trump fanboy?
 
2017-08-13 10:57:38 AM  
eurotrader:
VA has some strong anti terrorism laws and could seek the death penalty or life in prison. Hope the VA governor orders review for charging as a terrorist. There is no mow down protestors protection law in VA.

Good that they are State laws. That would help protect from a Presidential pardon.
 
2017-08-13 10:58:09 AM  
Would it be fair to say that both being a self-avowed nazi AND Killing innocent people with your car is...

The act of a Deplorable person?

I would so love the MSM to start just casually using that adjective a Whole Lot More Often.
 
2017-08-13 10:58:43 AM  
Honestly, I'm still trying to fully process this whole thing. I missed the news yesterday, and I've spent most all this morning trying to catch up on it. I'm truly outraged. It's bad enough that he can't call domestic terrorism what it is. But, by not condemning Nazis and white supremacists, Trump is essentially giving them a pass. He's saying that Nazis are the moral equivalent of people who protest Nazis. What does he think of the Veterans who actually fought the Nazis in World War II?

I just can't believe an American president really did that. I'm in serious disbelief.
 
2017-08-13 10:58:57 AM  
We need to stop this shiat before it gets worse. It's already bigger than it ever should have gotten. My uncles and grandfathers (all highly conservative, but also active opponents of the Nazis) would be embarrassed that this is what we've come to:  A nation in which our President has these people in his cabinet, and cannot be arsed to come out and condemn them specifically. A nation in which these people don't feel they need to hide anymore.

We need to make them understand that they are not welcome here. They are not the majority. They will not be even tolerated.

It's time to eject them from this nation, one way or another.
 
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