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2017-07-22 04:36:56 PM  
This is why you should only commit one crime at a time.
 
2017-07-22 04:39:58 PM  
And everybody on the group W bench moved away
 
2017-07-22 05:44:12 PM  
Where I live, it's legal and likely encouraged.  ('live by a six-lane highway)
 
2017-07-22 06:03:51 PM  
This was a combination of our Smart Policing initiative and some good, old-fashioned police work

I like how they go out of their way to make sure that smart policing is not confused with old-fashioned policing.
 
2017-07-22 07:40:38 PM  
 
2017-07-22 08:19:45 PM  

Barfmaker: This was a combination of our Smart Policing initiative and some good, old-fashioned police work

I like how they go out of their way to make sure that smart policing is not confused with old-fashioned policing.


Well, to be fair, in Winnipeg "good, old-fashioned police work" means: I stopped him because he was cycling-while-Native.
 
2017-07-22 08:20:11 PM  
It's a side walk, not a side ride mother farker!

/I may not actually be a cyclist
//or anything else my handle says
 
2017-07-22 08:31:03 PM  
If you don't like the way I drive, stay off the sidewalk.
 
AOW
2017-07-22 08:36:30 PM  

TheHighlandHowler: Where I live, it's legal and likely encouraged.  ('live by a six-lane highway)


Its actually against the law to bike on the sidewalk here but as we have 3 major truck routes, no bike lanes and few paved medians the sheriff has let it be known that they wont enforce that law if you ride your bike at a reasonable speed and with due care on the sidewalks, he says its better thsn having the poor cyclists end up as Mack hood ornaments on a weekly basis
 
2017-07-22 08:40:07 PM  

Barfmaker: This was a combination of our Smart Policing initiative and some good, old-fashioned police work

I like how they go out of their way to make sure that smart policing is not confused with old-fashioned policing.


The "Smart Policing Initiative" is the name of a program.
 
2017-07-22 08:49:18 PM  

AOW: TheHighlandHowler: Where I live, it's legal and likely encouraged.  ('live by a six-lane highway)

Its actually against the law to bike on the sidewalk here but as we have 3 major truck routes, no bike lanes and few paved medians the sheriff has let it be known that they wont enforce that law if you ride your bike at a reasonable speed and with due care on the sidewalks, he says its better thsn having the poor cyclists end up as Mack hood ornaments on a weekly basis


I googled the roadways in the article (looks like 2 major arterials) and I can see why they would ride on the sidewalk, but at 4:30 in the morning why would it bother the cops? There can't have been much foot traffic at that time of the morning?
 
2017-07-22 08:59:32 PM  
Any couple riding a bicycle at 4:30 AM will attract the attention of the police.
 
2017-07-22 09:23:24 PM  

SirMadness: Barfmaker: This was a combination of our Smart Policing initiative and some good, old-fashioned police work

I like how they go out of their way to make sure that smart policing is not confused with old-fashioned policing.

Well, to be fair, in Winnipeg "good, old-fashioned police work" means: I stopped him because he was cycling-while-Native.


That's just BS buddy. When I rode bicycle here I was sopped quite a bit, especially late at night. My roommate still rides bike, and he gets stopped quite often as well. Neither of us are native. Way to try and make it into a race issue though.

I don't get what's with the facepalm tag? Is that a facepalm for a stupid criminal breaking the law in an obvious way so as to get arrested again?

Bicyclists are really becoming a problem here. Half of them think they have the same rights as a car, which they don't. The laws for riding bikes are quite plainly spelled out. The other half (dare I say the majority) don't follow any rules at all. They will weave from the sidewalks to the streets (use the sidewalk to pass a car, use the streets to pass a pedestrian), go through red lights even when there is traffic, ride on the sidewalks, hitting pedestrians and then yelling at them like it was their fault. They ride the wrong way on one ways, they ride on the wrong side of the road. Just this year I have personally almost bumped off at least five of them for any one these issues, or doing something really stupid like suddenly flying out from behind a large truck or a bus and expecting you to stop on a dime.

Personally, I don't really care if I bump one off. It's Darwin's theory, evolution in action. I would just be concerned about who would be paying to the damage to my car.

But hey, if the cops pull one over for being a jerk and riding on the sidewalk, and then end up with a criminal behind bars, BONUS!
 
2017-07-22 09:23:31 PM  

TheHighlandHowler: Where I live, it's legal and likely encouraged.  ('live by a six-lane highway)


That has a sidewalk?
 
2017-07-22 09:48:15 PM  
come for the group W bench, thank you.
 
2017-07-22 09:52:02 PM  

Mergatroid: Bicyclists are really becoming a problem here. Half of them think they have the same rights as a car, which they don't.


In Colorado, cyclists are expected to obey the same laws as vehicles, and be considered vehicles in return.

The other half (dare I say the majority) don't follow any rules at all.

Now that I see a lot of.  I'll be stopped at a light on a one-way street and see pedicabs coming towards me, against the one-way and against the light.
 
2017-07-22 10:23:07 PM  

AOW: Its actually against the law to bike on the sidewalk here


I don't feel like looking it up but here in Illinois I think the law has an age limit. If you're over 13 or 14 you're supposed to ride in the street. I'm guessing it's not enforced 99.999....% of the time. But at 4am...yeah. That's gonna get their attention.
 
2017-07-22 11:08:37 PM  
but but but...the woman he was with was not charged?
 
2017-07-22 11:56:06 PM  

sardonicobserver: Any couple riding a bicycle at 4:30 AM will attract the attention of the police.


Surprisingly not always the case.  I did all sorts of outside activities during the night back when I worked third shift.  I went bike riding, played roller hockey with my lil bro, and whatever else I could think of doing.  I never once saw a cop.
 
2017-07-23 01:42:32 AM  

lack of warmth: sardonicobserver: Any couple riding a bicycle at 4:30 AM will attract the attention of the police.

Surprisingly not always the case.  I did all sorts of outside activities during the night back when I worked third shift.  I went bike riding, played roller hockey with my lil bro, and whatever else I could think of doing.  I never once saw a cop.


you white?
 
2017-07-23 01:59:41 AM  

lack of warmth: sardonicobserver: Any couple riding a bicycle at 4:30 AM will attract the attention of the police.

Surprisingly not always the case.  I did all sorts of outside activities during the night back when I worked third shift.  I went bike riding, played roller hockey with my lil bro, and whatever else I could think of doing.  I never once saw a cop.


I bet you're white.
 
2017-07-23 02:04:14 AM  

lack of warmth: sardonicobserver: Any couple riding a bicycle at 4:30 AM will attract the attention of the police.

Surprisingly not always the case.  I did all sorts of outside activities during the night back when I worked third shift.  I went bike riding, played roller hockey with my lil bro, and whatever else I could think of doing.  I never once saw a cop.


You can bet that they saw you.  Given your observation, I would *think* that any bicycle at 4:30 AM would be looked at with full attention and evaluated.  So, if you are properly dressed, appear to be going to work for an early shift or exercising before work, and are behaving yourself, they would leave you alone.  The likelihood will depend on the real-world possibility that someone would be going to work or exercising at your location.

I believe that it's hard to fool a good cop.  If you have a stolen bike, it's not likely to match your attire and use of it, for example.  If you aren't accustomed to riding a bike, your posture and such show that.  Etc.
 
2017-07-23 02:15:50 AM  

TheHighlandHowler: Where I live, it's legal and likely encouraged.  ('live by a six-lane highway)


Legal, but discouraged, assuming your location in your profile is accurate.  https://www.dot.ny.gov/display/programs/bicycle/faq
 
2017-07-23 02:17:18 AM  

SirMadness: Barfmaker: This was a combination of our Smart Policing initiative and some good, old-fashioned police work

I like how they go out of their way to make sure that smart policing is not confused with old-fashioned policing.

Well, to be fair, in Winnipeg "good, old-fashioned police work" means: I stopped him because he was cycling-while-Native.


Oh, so like Oregon.  Good to know if I head to Winnipeg, which is close enough to me now I can hear CBW on the AM radio.
 
2017-07-23 02:23:50 AM  

Mergatroid: Half of them think they have the same rights as a car, which they don't


Really?  Does your province know that?  Because your province says the opposite of your claim right here on page 10 of your province's cyclist handbook.
 
2017-07-23 02:28:25 AM  

sardonicobserver: I believe that it's hard to fool a good cop.  If you have a stolen bike, it's not likely to match your attire and use of it, for example.  If you aren't accustomed to riding a bike, your posture and such show that.  Etc.


Hell, it's hard to fool a shiatty cop that's been on the beat for more than a token length of time.
 
2017-07-23 04:36:40 AM  

vudukungfu: And everybody on the group W bench moved away


The real question, though, is who would they move further away from, this guy or the litterer?
 
2017-07-23 04:46:41 AM  

Mock26: vudukungfu: And everybody on the group W bench moved away

The real question, though, is who would they move further away from, this guy or the litterer?


Probably this guy.  It's hard to so much as get over a speed bump in a loaded down VW microbus, even when those things were in their prime.  And now that the newest ones are like, 25 years old...
 
2017-07-23 08:07:37 AM  

sardonicobserver: lack of warmth: sardonicobserver: Any couple riding a bicycle at 4:30 AM will attract the attention of the police.

Surprisingly not always the case.  I did all sorts of outside activities during the night back when I worked third shift.  I went bike riding, played roller hockey with my lil bro, and whatever else I could think of doing.  I never once saw a cop.

You can bet that they saw you.  Given your observation, I would *think* that any bicycle at 4:30 AM would be looked at with full attention and evaluated.  So, if you are properly dressed, appear to be going to work for an early shift or exercising before work, and are behaving yourself, they would leave you alone.  The likelihood will depend on the real-world possibility that someone would be going to work or exercising at your location.

I believe that it's hard to fool a good cop.  If you have a stolen bike, it's not likely to match your attire and use of it, for example.  If you aren't accustomed to riding a bike, your posture and such show that.  Etc.


Or consider that there aren't as many cops working third shift as there are during the day, so the odds of seeing a cop is far less.  But no, this is Fark, no one wants to think about numbers.  Many here want to think there are as many cops swarming around in the middle of the night as there are during the day, and therefore more likely to see you.  That's simply not the case.

Believe me, the Flint criminals pay attention to numbers.  I've noticed our day starts off busy for the cops right at 5-6 am hour, because that's when the day cops are starting their shift, and the criminals know that's when the response time is on the slow side.  Nothing like a shift change to break into a house, add in the other crap that gets going from stuff like morning rush wrecks.  It also amazes me how many domestic assault calls that early.  It's like people wake up ready to fight.
 
2017-07-23 08:56:40 AM  

lack of warmth: sardonicobserver: lack of warmth: sardonicobserver: Any couple riding a bicycle at 4:30 AM will attract the attention of the police.

Surprisingly not always the case.  I did all sorts of outside activities during the night back when I worked third shift.  I went bike riding, played roller hockey with my lil bro, and whatever else I could think of doing.  I never once saw a cop.

You can bet that they saw you.  Given your observation, I would *think* that any bicycle at 4:30 AM would be looked at with full attention and evaluated.  So, if you are properly dressed, appear to be going to work for an early shift or exercising before work, and are behaving yourself, they would leave you alone.  The likelihood will depend on the real-world possibility that someone would be going to work or exercising at your location.

I believe that it's hard to fool a good cop.  If you have a stolen bike, it's not likely to match your attire and use of it, for example.  If you aren't accustomed to riding a bike, your posture and such show that.  Etc.

Or consider that there aren't as many cops working third shift as there are during the day, so the odds of seeing a cop is far less.  But no, this is Fark, no one wants to think about numbers.  Many here want to think there are as many cops swarming around in the middle of the night as there are during the day, and therefore more likely to see you.  That's simply not the case.

Believe me, the Flint criminals pay attention to numbers.  I've noticed our day starts off busy for the cops right at 5-6 am hour, because that's when the day cops are starting their shift, and the criminals know that's when the response time is on the slow side.  Nothing like a shift change to break into a house, add in the other crap that gets going from stuff like morning rush wrecks.  It also amazes me how many domestic assault calls that early.  It's like people wake up ready to fight.


Actually you see some of the most astute people on FARK; this is always evident when there is a developing story out there, when a FARK thread gives you locals, relevant professionals, and experts chipping in.  The best up-to-date information about a tornado, riot, fire, whatever, can be found on a live thread right here, and is one of the reasons I'm here - this is where the best, up-to-date news is when you really need it.  We've seen cases where major network's running blogs follow FARK threads.

Yes, at 4:30 AM, there are fewer of everything, including cops and traffic.  And, as you know, people out and about between 2:00 AM and 5:00 AM have a pretty high percentage of intoxicated and up-to-no-good types.

Your remark about domestic abuse calls at 5:00 to 6:00 AM is interesting.  I would suppose that is about when a lot of people that drink too much wake up to pee with a huge hangover.
 
2017-07-23 09:08:11 AM  
The sidewalk riding is by far the more heinous crime.

/Bikes are vehicles. Drive on the road and follow the rules.
//And, yes, that means avoiding roads unsafe for bikes. Deal with it.
///Why, yes, I have a bike. I've even used it.
 
2017-07-23 09:24:05 AM  

Highroller48: And, yes, that means avoiding roads unsafe for bikes. Deal with it.


Easier said than done when it's the only connection between where you're coming from and where you're going to.
 
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2017-07-23 11:33:29 AM  
Arrested for riding on a sidewalk, run over by a dean of students riding on the road - you can't win!
 
2017-07-23 01:21:13 PM  
I was once riding my bike on the sidewalk in Chicago.  I was on my way to my job (as a bicycle mechanic) and the shortest way to get there involved cutting down a side street and then riding on the sidewalk for half a block.  The cop who stopped me was also riding his bike on the sidewalk.  When I told him I was just heading to work he told me that I had to cross to the other side of the street, ride in the street for half a block and then cross back over to the bike shop.  He had seen me come around the corner so he new that I had not been on the sidewalk for any several blocks.  As he rode off he rode on the sidewalk.  Asshole.

The kicker?  It was not illegal to ride on the sidewalk in that neighborhood.
 
2017-07-23 01:21:15 PM  

sardonicobserver: Actually you see some of the most astute people on FARK; this is always evident when there is a developing story out there, when a FARK thread gives you locals, relevant professionals, and experts chipping in.  The best up-to-date information about a tornado, riot, fire, whatever, can be found on a live thread right here, and is one of the reasons I'm here - this is where the best, up-to-date news is when you really need it.  We've seen cases where major network's running blogs follow FARK threads.

Yes, at 4:30 AM, there are fewer of everything, including cops and traffic.  And, as you know, people out and about between 2:00 AM and 5:00 AM have a pretty high percentage of intoxicated and up-to-no-good types.

Your remark about domestic abuse calls at 5:00 to 6:00 AM is interesting.  I would suppose that is about when a lot of people that drink too much wake up to pee with a huge hangover.


On some topics, I agree there are astute people here, and there is a subculture here.  It's to the point that when out and about, it's not hard to know when surrounded by people who never heard of this site.  At the same time, it's funny when a Farker reveals himself without knowing it by stating out loud a well known Fark meme, and I'm the only other person there who got it.  Doesn't mean any of us are perfected in our discussions, and the Politics tab proves that.

However, 1-3am tend to be the hot hours for drunk drivers here due to closing time is 2am.  By 4am, it's as quiet as it will ever get.  Honestly, I was surprised how much criminal activity started in my city so early in the morning.  B&E's are at the highest during those hours.  Probably not just the shift change for the cops, but they're likely to catch homeowners more off guard, if they hadn't already left for work, or going into businesses just before employees start showing up.

I first assumed the same thing about the early domestic violence calls, and I'm sure hangovers account for a lot of them, but it's surprising how many teen on parent violence happens at that hour too.  We've had a lot of teens violently attacking their mothers after being woken up.  Of course that's mostly during the school season.  Either way, there is something really wrong with someone if being woken up makes violence justifiable to them.
 
2017-07-23 02:29:38 PM  

AOW: TheHighlandHowler: Where I live, it's legal and likely encouraged.  ('live by a six-lane highway)

Its actually against the law to bike on the sidewalk here but as we have 3 major truck routes, no bike lanes and few paved medians the sheriff has let it be known that they wont enforce that law if you ride your bike at a reasonable speed and with due care on the sidewalks, he says its better thsn having the poor cyclists end up as Mack hood ornaments on a weekly basis


This is how the law and enforcement should be enacted everywhere. Only a bicyclist going top speed and plowing into and old lady would there actually be a serious injury on a sidewalk. A car and a bike at any speed will cause injury.
 
2017-07-23 04:53:48 PM  

lack of warmth: sardonicobserver: Actually you see some of the most astute people on FARK; this is always evident when there is a developing story out there, when a FARK thread gives you locals, relevant professionals, and experts chipping in.  The best up-to-date information about a tornado, riot, fire, whatever, can be found on a live thread right here, and is one of the reasons I'm here - this is where the best, up-to-date news is when you really need it.  We've seen cases where major network's running blogs follow FARK threads.

Yes, at 4:30 AM, there are fewer of everything, including cops and traffic.  And, as you know, people out and about between 2:00 AM and 5:00 AM have a pretty high percentage of intoxicated and up-to-no-good types.

Your remark about domestic abuse calls at 5:00 to 6:00 AM is interesting.  I would suppose that is about when a lot of people that drink too much wake up to pee with a huge hangover.

On some topics, I agree there are astute people here, and there is a subculture here.  It's to the point that when out and about, it's not hard to know when surrounded by people who never heard of this site.  At the same time, it's funny when a Farker reveals himself without knowing it by stating out loud a well known Fark meme, and I'm the only other person there who got it.  Doesn't mean any of us are perfected in our discussions, and the Politics tab proves that.

However, 1-3am tend to be the hot hours for drunk drivers here due to closing time is 2am.  By 4am, it's as quiet as it will ever get.  Honestly, I was surprised how much criminal activity started in my city so early in the morning.  B&E's are at the highest during those hours.  Probably not just the shift change for the cops, but they're likely to catch homeowners more off guard, if they hadn't already left for work, or going into businesses just before employees start showing up.

I first assumed the same thing about the early domestic violence calls, and I'm sure hangovers account for a lot of th ...


Interesting.  I always thought that, by numbers, the greatest number of B&E's were done by high-school age boys within a couple of blocks of home, done when school is out but working people aren't home yet, i.e. between 3:30 PM and 5:00 PM.  The wee hours B&E people are serious criminals that come in while people are at home, asleep.

Being awakened doesn't seem to be an incitement to violence, but to someone wracked by alcoholism, drugs, and/or lack of sleep (and a teenagers is susceptible to at least two of these three), it could be provoking.  If the parent is similarly dysfunctional and yells or physically abuses the kid every morning, that could get volatile, too.
 
2017-07-23 09:39:06 PM  
I have bicycled at night on many occasions and have never been harassed by cops.  Back in the 80s I used to commute home from work in downtown San Jose out to the burbs, about 10 miles, usually around 9:30 P.M. with no issues.  On tours I have also bicycled over mt Hamilton and across the central valley at night with no issues.  Only once, in Patterson, CA. a cop stopped me and some buddies I was riding with and made us walk out of "his town" but we had it coming since we had no head or tail lights, only some weak leg/arm mounted lights.
 
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