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2017-05-19 12:24:12 PM  
Without looking how many teams has Fitzy now played for (including Bucs)? 

I was off by one.
 
2017-05-19 12:38:10 PM  
Still no job offers for Kaepernick?

/No?
//Bueller?
 
2017-05-19 02:22:36 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Still no job offers for Kaepernick?

/No?
//Bueller?


It's hard to hire someone when your boss tells you you'll be fired if you so much as think about hiring them.
 
2017-05-19 02:27:37 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Still no job offers for Kaepernick?

/No?
//Bueller?


Why would anyone want to give $10 million and a starting job at a mediocre quarterback with a limited skillset?
 
2017-05-19 02:28:05 PM  

Serious Black: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Still no job offers for Kaepernick?

/No?
//Bueller?

It's hard to hire someone when your boss tells you you'll be fired if you so much as think about hiring them.


Its hard to find a job when there's only 32 positions available in the world (most of them already taken) and you've got a reputation as an overrated, rabblerousing, attention whore.
 
2017-05-19 02:29:45 PM  

bionicjoe: Without looking how many teams has Fitzy now played for (including Bucs)? 

I was off by one.


8?
 
2017-05-19 02:30:28 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Still no job offers for Kaepernick?


How would we know?
 
2017-05-19 02:32:51 PM  
Winston to suffer ACL tear in 5...4...3...
 
2017-05-19 02:34:25 PM  
The last year Fitzpatrick didn't start a game?  2008.
 
2017-05-19 02:42:05 PM  

Dick Gozinya: Serious Black: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Still no job offers for Kaepernick?

/No?
//Bueller?

It's hard to hire someone when your boss tells you you'll be fired if you so much as think about hiring them.

Its hard to find a job when there's only 32 positions available in the world (most of them already taken) and you've got a reputation as an overrated, rabblerousing, attention whore.


AFAIK, RG3 is still out of work as well.
No one has really even mentioned it but with Kap it all "ZOMG RACISM!!!!"
 
2017-05-19 02:53:24 PM  
Fun fact: mediocre means "average" so the headline basically suggests Fitz is more average than Glennon
 
2017-05-19 02:54:00 PM  

SirDigbyChickenCaesar: The last year Fitzpatrick didn't start a game?  2008.


Which is also the same number of teams he's played for.
 
2017-05-19 02:54:57 PM  

abhorrent1: Dick Gozinya: Serious Black: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Still no job offers for Kaepernick?

/No?
//Bueller?

It's hard to hire someone when your boss tells you you'll be fired if you so much as think about hiring them.

Its hard to find a job when there's only 32 positions available in the world (most of them already taken) and you've got a reputation as an overrated, rabblerousing, attention whore.

AFAIK, RG3 is still out of work as well.
No one has really even mentioned it but with Kap it all "ZOMG RACISM!!!!"


RG3's best hope is to tote around a clipboard as someone's 3rd string.  Everyone saw what happened in Cleveland, and no one wants anything to do with it.
 
2017-05-19 03:00:18 PM  

Dick Gozinya: Serious Black: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Still no job offers for Kaepernick?

/No?
//Bueller?

It's hard to hire someone when your boss tells you you'll be fired if you so much as think about hiring them.

Its hard to find a job when there's only 32 positions available in the world (most of them already taken) and you've got a reputation as an overrated, rabblerousing, attention whore.


I'm pretty sure Kaepernick has said he'd be willing to take a position as a backup. That opens it up to ~100 positions. And a lot of the people who have been signed to those positions of late have been demonstrably worse players of late. Hell, Blaine Gabbert got replaced mid-season by Kaepernick and never sniffed the field after that, and he is already signed to a backup contract.

As for the "attention whore" claim, you do realize he's stated he will stand for the national anthem this year, that he does the same amount of charitable work that dozens or hundreds of other NFL players do, and that nobody questions their dedication to the game, right?
 
2017-05-19 03:27:26 PM  

Serious Black: Dick Gozinya: Serious Black: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Still no job offers for Kaepernick?

/No?
//Bueller?

It's hard to hire someone when your boss tells you you'll be fired if you so much as think about hiring them.

Its hard to find a job when there's only 32 positions available in the world (most of them already taken) and you've got a reputation as an overrated, rabblerousing, attention whore.

I'm pretty sure Kaepernick has said he'd be willing to take a position as a backup. That opens it up to ~100 positions. And a lot of the people who have been signed to those positions of late have been demonstrably worse players of late. Hell, Blaine Gabbert got replaced mid-season by Kaepernick and never sniffed the field after that, and he is already signed to a backup contract.

As for the "attention whore" claim, you do realize he's stated he will stand for the national anthem this year, that he does the same amount of charitable work that dozens or hundreds of other NFL players do, and that nobody questions their dedication to the game, right?


The difference is, the other QBs are willing and, more importantly, able to adapt to a different system of play. Kaep's gonna have to do a lot to convince the world of that, especially the second half.
 
2017-05-19 03:42:49 PM  

FriarReb98: Serious Black: Dick Gozinya: Serious Black: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Still no job offers for Kaepernick?

/No?
//Bueller?

It's hard to hire someone when your boss tells you you'll be fired if you so much as think about hiring them.

Its hard to find a job when there's only 32 positions available in the world (most of them already taken) and you've got a reputation as an overrated, rabblerousing, attention whore.

I'm pretty sure Kaepernick has said he'd be willing to take a position as a backup. That opens it up to ~100 positions. And a lot of the people who have been signed to those positions of late have been demonstrably worse players of late. Hell, Blaine Gabbert got replaced mid-season by Kaepernick and never sniffed the field after that, and he is already signed to a backup contract.

As for the "attention whore" claim, you do realize he's stated he will stand for the national anthem this year, that he does the same amount of charitable work that dozens or hundreds of other NFL players do, and that nobody questions their dedication to the game, right?

The difference is, the other QBs are willing and, more importantly, able to adapt to a different system of play. Kaep's gonna have to do a lot to convince the world of that, especially the second half.


Kaepernick had an alright year last year.  90.7 qb rating, almost 60% accuracy.  Nothing amazing, but pretty good for the giant pile of garbage that was the niners.

Meanwhile, Mike Glennon, Blaine Gabbert, Josh mccown, and Ryan Fitzpatrick are all employed.  You really think they're all better than Kaepernick?
 
2017-05-19 03:45:59 PM  
Deadspin covered this recently, and spoiler alert all y'all trotting out the talking points: none of them hold water

He's being blackballed, I'd have more respect for the NFL if they would man up and say as such.
 
2017-05-19 03:48:43 PM  

Contrabulous Flabtraption: Fun fact: mediocre means "average" so the headline basically suggests Fitz is more average than Glennon


So I guess the question remains, to which side of average is Glennon?
 
2017-05-19 03:49:32 PM  
Should we be really be that concerned about a backup quarterback?
 
2017-05-19 03:54:10 PM  

Dick Gozinya: Serious Black: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Still no job offers for Kaepernick?

/No?
//Bueller?

It's hard to hire someone when your boss tells you you'll be fired if you so much as think about hiring them.

Its hard to find a job when there's only 32 positions available in the world (most of them already taken) and you've got a reputation as an overrated, rabblerousing, attention whore.


I assume he "rabble rousing attention whore" is about his kneeling for the national anthem. A thing he did for several games and never even mentioned until the media started asking questions?
 
2017-05-19 04:07:24 PM  

Dafatone: FriarReb98: Serious Black: Dick Gozinya: Serious Black: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Still no job offers for Kaepernick?

/No?
//Bueller?

It's hard to hire someone when your boss tells you you'll be fired if you so much as think about hiring them.

Its hard to find a job when there's only 32 positions available in the world (most of them already taken) and you've got a reputation as an overrated, rabblerousing, attention whore.

I'm pretty sure Kaepernick has said he'd be willing to take a position as a backup. That opens it up to ~100 positions. And a lot of the people who have been signed to those positions of late have been demonstrably worse players of late. Hell, Blaine Gabbert got replaced mid-season by Kaepernick and never sniffed the field after that, and he is already signed to a backup contract.

As for the "attention whore" claim, you do realize he's stated he will stand for the national anthem this year, that he does the same amount of charitable work that dozens or hundreds of other NFL players do, and that nobody questions their dedication to the game, right?

The difference is, the other QBs are willing and, more importantly, able to adapt to a different system of play. Kaep's gonna have to do a lot to convince the world of that, especially the second half.

Kaepernick had an alright year last year.  90.7 qb rating, almost 60% accuracy.  Nothing amazing, but pretty good for the giant pile of garbage that was the niners.

Meanwhile, Mike Glennon, Blaine Gabbert, Josh mccown, and Ryan Fitzpatrick are all employed.  You really think they're all better than Kaepernick?


Without looking at the statistics, a replacement level starting QB in the league is worth something in the neighborhood of $8-10 million a year. A replacement level backup is probably worth $3-4 million a year. I'm much less comfortable with that second estimate.

Kaepernick is absolutely better than replacement-level backups, and as a Niners fan, I think he's probably right around replacement-level starter. I would agree with people who suggest that he can be better than that, but I would also agree with people who suggest that he could be worse.

There's basically no legitimate reason for him not to have gotten any offers, unless for some reason his agent has made it clear he won't accept offers under $10 million, or has made it clear he must start wherever he goes. As I understand it, neither is the case.
 
2017-05-19 04:08:02 PM  
Too many points to argue at once, but I'm gonna just go with the obvious one. The fact that this has been going on for months now is WHY he's a distraction. Distractions are not welcome anywhere there's competent ownership. Doesn't matter if he was puppetted on stage by Darth Hoodie himself, every media outlet would ask every player on whatever team picks him up at least once a week what it's like to be dealing with *him.* The media will make him a distraction, it's what they do.

As for his skills...even with the Deadspin article out there, I gotta argue that those stellar plays didn't exactly get him anywhere last year. And anywhere that's gonna have a good situation for him to walk into? They're already covered.

Maybe everyone just needs to step back from all of this and stop trying to fantasize their way into their reality.
 
2017-05-19 04:11:52 PM  

FriarReb98: Too many points to argue at once, but I'm gonna just go with the obvious one. The fact that this has been going on for months now is WHY he's a distraction. Distractions are not welcome anywhere there's competent ownership. Doesn't matter if he was puppetted on stage by Darth Hoodie himself, every media outlet would ask every player on whatever team picks him up at least once a week what it's like to be dealing with *him.* The media will make him a distraction, it's what they do.

As for his skills...even with the Deadspin article out there, I gotta argue that those stellar plays didn't exactly get him anywhere last year. And anywhere that's gonna have a good situation for him to walk into? They're already covered.

Maybe everyone just needs to step back from all of this and stop trying to fantasize their way into their reality.


If I recall, his jersey was the #1 seller after he started his protest (it was nowhere near that before), so the "distraction" angle is kind of BS. Now, if an owner or GM came out and said that 25% the locker room is a bunch of meatheads who wouldn't play with him, that would be something else. But as far as I know no one has said that because it's not true; once you're at the pro-level, most players understand that they're professionals and can leave political differences off the field.
 
2017-05-19 04:18:57 PM  

Sasquatchuan: FriarReb98: Too many points to argue at once, but I'm gonna just go with the obvious one. The fact that this has been going on for months now is WHY he's a distraction. Distractions are not welcome anywhere there's competent ownership. Doesn't matter if he was puppetted on stage by Darth Hoodie himself, every media outlet would ask every player on whatever team picks him up at least once a week what it's like to be dealing with *him.* The media will make him a distraction, it's what they do.

As for his skills...even with the Deadspin article out there, I gotta argue that those stellar plays didn't exactly get him anywhere last year. And anywhere that's gonna have a good situation for him to walk into? They're already covered.

Maybe everyone just needs to step back from all of this and stop trying to fantasize their way into their reality.

If I recall, his jersey was the #1 seller after he started his protest (it was nowhere near that before), so the "distraction" angle is kind of BS. Now, if an owner or GM came out and said that 25% the locker room is a bunch of meatheads who wouldn't play with him, that would be something else. But as far as I know no one has said that because it's not true; once you're at the pro-level, most players understand that they're professionals and can leave political differences off the field.


I'm trying to see where you refuted any of my points directly instead of just saying generalizations....
 
2017-05-19 04:24:04 PM  

FriarReb98: Sasquatchuan: FriarReb98: Too many points to argue at once, but I'm gonna just go with the obvious one. The fact that this has been going on for months now is WHY he's a distraction. Distractions are not welcome anywhere there's competent ownership. Doesn't matter if he was puppetted on stage by Darth Hoodie himself, every media outlet would ask every player on whatever team picks him up at least once a week what it's like to be dealing with *him.* The media will make him a distraction, it's what they do.

As for his skills...even with the Deadspin article out there, I gotta argue that those stellar plays didn't exactly get him anywhere last year. And anywhere that's gonna have a good situation for him to walk into? They're already covered.

Maybe everyone just needs to step back from all of this and stop trying to fantasize their way into their reality.

If I recall, his jersey was the #1 seller after he started his protest (it was nowhere near that before), so the "distraction" angle is kind of BS. Now, if an owner or GM came out and said that 25% the locker room is a bunch of meatheads who wouldn't play with him, that would be something else. But as far as I know no one has said that because it's not true; once you're at the pro-level, most players understand that they're professionals and can leave political differences off the field.

I'm trying to see where you refuted any of my points directly instead of just saying generalizations....


"What's it like playing with Kaepernick" didn't come up all that often last year.

As to teams where he'd fit, I have to figure the jets would be better off with him than mccown.
 
2017-05-19 04:26:53 PM  
I never understood why teams have backup QBs other than maybe some unproven rookie.  If the starter gets injured, your team is farked.  So save the backup QB money and get some better offensive linemen or some shiat.
 
2017-05-19 04:37:14 PM  

lennavan: I never understood why teams have backup QBs other than maybe some unproven rookie.  If the starter gets injured, your team is farked.  So save the backup QB money and get some better offensive linemen or some shiat.


Maybe you need your backup for, say, six games.  You go 7-3 in the other ten and you're good enough to make the playoffs and do some damage in there.  You need to go 3-3 in those six games.  Having a backup familiar with your team and system will help.
 
2017-05-19 04:56:47 PM  

Serious Black: I'm pretty sure Kaepernick has said he'd be willing to take a position as a backup.


Where? I havent heard anything from him or his agent since he quit the 49ers
 
2017-05-19 05:02:06 PM  
He's prob the only QB not on the Ti-Cats neg list.

/go green!
//wish I could be in Regina this year for a game.
 
2017-05-19 05:11:36 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Still no job offers for Kaepernick?

/No?
//Bueller?


Kaep would actually work pretty well as an emergency backup for the Titans, that said he'd have to accept being a 3rd stringer and taking a steep paycut.
 
2017-05-19 05:19:38 PM  

Mole Man: He's prob the only QB not on the Ti-Cats neg list.

/go green!
//wish I could be in Regina this year for a game.


Big CFL fan here. (Arrrrrgos!)   Honest question:  What would one of these incompetent NFL backups do in the CFL?  Any better than guys we have here already?  Would they complete more passes?  Lead their team to the Grey Cup single handedly?  Or would they be reasonably terrible here as well?
 
2017-05-19 05:28:34 PM  

cnocnanrionnag: Mole Man: He's prob the only QB not on the Ti-Cats neg list.

/go green!
//wish I could be in Regina this year for a game.

Big CFL fan here. (Arrrrrgos!)   Honest question:  What would one of these incompetent NFL backups do in the CFL?  Any better than guys we have here already?  Would they complete more passes?  Lead their team to the Grey Cup single handedly?  Or would they be reasonably terrible here as well?


I was wrong the Cats have Kaep and RG3 on the list.  Frig I hope Vice Young doesn't stink up the Riders this year.
 
2017-05-19 05:33:29 PM  

abhorrent1: AFAIK, RG3 is still out of work as well.
No one has really even mentioned it but with Kap it all "ZOMG RACISM!!!!"


That's because RG3 was bad and is injury-prone. I can't imagine a team wants a backup that you can't depend on to stay on the field, when your sole existence on the team is to keep the team afloat while the starter is out. He's not definitively better than the other guys getting signed. Ok, maybe he's still better than Gabbert.

Kap wasn't bad, particularly considering some of the chumps he was throwing to. He's absolutely better than a bunch of the guys who have been signed.
 
2017-05-19 06:06:21 PM  

cnocnanrionnag: Mole Man: He's prob the only QB not on the Ti-Cats neg list.

/go green!
//wish I could be in Regina this year for a game.

Big CFL fan here. (Arrrrrgos!)   Honest question:  What would one of these incompetent NFL backups do in the CFL?  Any better than guys we have here already?  Would they complete more passes?  Lead their team to the Grey Cup single handedly?  Or would they be reasonably terrible here as well?


Some would do quite well. Some would suck. It would be mostly a question of how they adapt to the differing rules/strategies than anything else. They probably wouldn't be the next Calvillo but a lot could secure a job if they wanted to. But since a top CFL star might make the NFL rookie minimum they are better off hoping to get a chance to show their stuff in the US if the starter gets injured than moving north.
 
2017-05-19 06:12:48 PM  

Dafatone: lennavan: I never understood why teams have backup QBs other than maybe some unproven rookie.  If the starter gets injured, your team is farked.  So save the backup QB money and get some better offensive linemen or some shiat.

Maybe you need your backup for, say, six games.  You go 7-3 in the other ten and you're good enough to make the playoffs and do some damage in there.  You need to go 3-3 in those six games.  Having a backup familiar with your team and system will help.


Sure, that's possible.  First, what are the chances your QB gets injured?  Second what are the chances your team is a playoff hopeful with that starter?  Third what are the chances your backup can then go 3-3?  Fourth, what are the chances the injury that took your starting QB out for those games isn't bad enough to keep them out for the season?  Multiply those odds all together and that's your chances paying a backup QB will be worthwhile.  Best case scenario, your team is running at 100%.  Worst case you've got a backup to run it at 90%.  Compare to spending that to the chances spending that money elsewhere like to compete for better free agents will be worthwhile.  Best case there, the team (comparatively) is better, so it's running at 105%.  Worst case scenario, your team is running at 50%, you may as well not even field and offense and just hope for a 0-0 tie.

I think that's the obvious choice, you risk it so you can spend the money to improve a spot elsewhere and improve your shot at winning the super bowl.
 
2017-05-19 06:22:34 PM  

lennavan: Dafatone: lennavan: I never understood why teams have backup QBs other than maybe some unproven rookie.  If the starter gets injured, your team is farked.  So save the backup QB money and get some better offensive linemen or some shiat.

Maybe you need your backup for, say, six games.  You go 7-3 in the other ten and you're good enough to make the playoffs and do some damage in there.  You need to go 3-3 in those six games.  Having a backup familiar with your team and system will help.

Sure, that's possible.  First, what are the chances your QB gets injured?  Second what are the chances your team is a playoff hopeful with that starter?  Third what are the chances your backup can then go 3-3?  Fourth, what are the chances the injury that took your starting QB out for those games isn't bad enough to keep them out for the season?  Multiply those odds all together and that's your chances paying a backup QB will be worthwhile.  Best case scenario, your team is running at 100%.  Worst case you've got a backup to run it at 90%.  Compare to spending that to the chances spending that money elsewhere like to compete for better free agents will be worthwhile.  Best case there, the team (comparatively) is better, so it's running at 105%.  Worst case scenario, your team is running at 50%, you may as well not even field and offense and just hope for a 0-0 tie.

I think that's the obvious choice, you risk it so you can spend the money to improve a spot elsewhere and improve your shot at winning the super bowl.


I think Belichick has drafted a quarterback almost every other year for a decade simply because depth at that position is so valuable. It was just a year or two ago when there was a deluge of starting QB's getting hurt and the ones that had at least competent backups stayed competitive while others fell off the map.

Of course it depends on the way your team is built, if you're the Saints there's really no reason to have a good backup because without Brees you might as well tank. If you're the Texans or Broncos where the defense carries the team then yeah you can get by with lackluster talent under center.
 
2017-05-19 07:00:24 PM  

abhorrent1: Dick Gozinya: Serious Black: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Still no job offers for Kaepernick?

/No?
//Bueller?

It's hard to hire someone when your boss tells you you'll be fired if you so much as think about hiring them.

Its hard to find a job when there's only 32 positions available in the world (most of them already taken) and you've got a reputation as an overrated, rabblerousing, attention whore.

AFAIK, RG3 is still out of work as well.
No one has really even mentioned it but with Kap it all "ZOMG RACISM!!!!"


RGIII HAS NEVER BEEN TO A SUPER BOWL. Or something.
 
2017-05-19 07:52:07 PM  
He should be blackballed. If you don't like America, leave the farking country. Every single police/minority incident is 100% because the victim failed to listen to the cops directions. It's that farking simple, and that's why the cops get off the hook.

That aside, he's a great farking QB.
 
2017-05-19 07:59:32 PM  

Reanlous: He should be blackballed. If you don't like America, leave the farking country. Every single police/minority incident is 100% because the victim failed to listen to the cops directions. It's that farking simple, and that's why the cops get off the hook.

That aside, he's a great farking QB.


Like 177/10.
 
2017-05-19 08:20:22 PM  

indybill23: abhorrent1: Dick Gozinya: Serious Black: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Still no job offers for Kaepernick?

/No?
//Bueller?

It's hard to hire someone when your boss tells you you'll be fired if you so much as think about hiring them.

Its hard to find a job when there's only 32 positions available in the world (most of them already taken) and you've got a reputation as an overrated, rabblerousing, attention whore.

AFAIK, RG3 is still out of work as well.
No one has really even mentioned it but with Kap it all "ZOMG RACISM!!!!"

RGIII HAS NEVER BEEN TO A SUPER BOWL. Or something.


I'm just tired of the whole conversation, frankly. NFL teams want to win and make MONEY! The more you win, the more you make.  They sign "alleged" rapists, murderes, domestic abusers, drug addicts etc. etc. etc.

If someone thought he was a better option than what they have on their roster now, whether that be a starter or back up, he'd have a job, PERIOD!

GMs and coaches keep their jobs by winning games. If someone thought he could do that, they'd sign him.  As is constantly pointed out, the NFL has no morals. So to expect me to believe some GM is gonna risk his multi-million dollar a year job by signing an inferior player because of some moral stand is a stretch.

And I give zero farks about him going to a super bowl. So did Rex Grossman, so that argument is invalid.
 
2017-05-19 08:50:05 PM  

abhorrent1: indybill23: abhorrent1: Dick Gozinya: Serious Black: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Still no job offers for Kaepernick?

/No?
//Bueller?

It's hard to hire someone when your boss tells you you'll be fired if you so much as think about hiring them.

Its hard to find a job when there's only 32 positions available in the world (most of them already taken) and you've got a reputation as an overrated, rabblerousing, attention whore.

AFAIK, RG3 is still out of work as well.
No one has really even mentioned it but with Kap it all "ZOMG RACISM!!!!"

RGIII HAS NEVER BEEN TO A SUPER BOWL. Or something.

I'm just tired of the whole conversation, frankly. NFL teams want to win and make MONEY! The more you win, the more you make.  They sign "alleged" rapists, murderes, domestic abusers, drug addicts etc. etc. etc.

If someone thought he was a better option than what they have on their roster now, whether that be a starter or back up, he'd have a job, PERIOD!

GMs and coaches keep their jobs by winning games. If someone thought he could do that, they'd sign him.  As is constantly pointed out, the NFL has no morals. So to expect me to believe some GM is gonna risk his multi-million dollar a year job by signing an inferior player because of some moral stand is a stretch.

And I give zero farks about him going to a super bowl. So did Rex Grossman, so that argument is invalid.


Don't get me started on the blackballing of Sexy Rexy.
 
2017-05-19 08:54:22 PM  

abhorrent1: indybill23: abhorrent1: Dick Gozinya: Serious Black: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Still no job offers for Kaepernick?

/No?
//Bueller?

It's hard to hire someone when your boss tells you you'll be fired if you so much as think about hiring them.

Its hard to find a job when there's only 32 positions available in the world (most of them already taken) and you've got a reputation as an overrated, rabblerousing, attention whore.

AFAIK, RG3 is still out of work as well.
No one has really even mentioned it but with Kap it all "ZOMG RACISM!!!!"

RGIII HAS NEVER BEEN TO A SUPER BOWL. Or something.

I'm just tired of the whole conversation, frankly. NFL teams want to win and make MONEY! The more you win, the more you make.  They sign "alleged" rapists, murderes, domestic abusers, drug addicts etc. etc. etc.

If someone thought he was a better option than what they have on their roster now, whether that be a starter or back up, he'd have a job, PERIOD!

GMs and coaches keep their jobs by winning games. If someone thought he could do that, they'd sign him.  As is constantly pointed out, the NFL has no morals. So to expect me to believe some GM is gonna risk his multi-million dollar a year job by signing an inferior player because of some moral stand is a stretch.

And I give zero farks about him going to a super bowl. So did Rex Grossman, so that argument is invalid.


And you'll notice Rexy got other jobs in the league.

Sorry your delusions of meritocracy might be taking a beating, but anyone who knows people in any sport knows it ain't all about getting the most talented guys, and guys absolutely do get treated differently due to politics, (though it's usually league or team stuff).
 
2017-05-19 09:13:37 PM  

IAmRight: Sorry your delusions of meritocracy might be taking a beating, but anyone who knows people in any sport knows it ain't all about getting the most talented guys, and guys absolutely do get treated differently due to politics, (though it's usually league or team stuff).


It's meritocracy with conditions.
They absoloutly do get treated differently. The better you are, the longer the leash that was kinda my point.

You have to be good enough to offset the downside. Is he good enough for a team to put up with the media circus and non-stop questions they and their players would have to answer about it ever single day?
Apparently no one thinks so. If they did, they'd sign him.
 
2017-05-19 09:35:00 PM  

Mole Man: cnocnanrionnag: Mole Man: He's prob the only QB not on the Ti-Cats neg list.

/go green!
//wish I could be in Regina this year for a game.

Big CFL fan here. (Arrrrrgos!)   Honest question:  What would one of these incompetent NFL backups do in the CFL?  Any better than guys we have here already?  Would they complete more passes?  Lead their team to the Grey Cup single handedly?  Or would they be reasonably terrible here as well?

I was wrong the Cats have Kaep and RG3 on the list.  Frig I hope Vice Young doesn't stink up the Riders this year.


I think that Vince Young will be ok. He knows that he isn't expected to be a starter at least right away. And he seems to have a good attitude. Also, the Riders have him no up front money. If he doesn't work out we drop him and move forward. Really its a low royal move.

/want to see that stadium so bad
 
2017-05-20 10:25:59 AM  
There *is* such a thing a collusion, and if you piss off owners bad enough, you will be out of a job even if you are still pretty good at it (see: Kluwe, Chris)

Kaep did, indeed, piss off owners and the NFL front office. That is not in question.

But it isn't the only thing in this equation.

Kaep played two years in a system designed specifically for him, and got *worse*. From all accounts, he doesn't take coaching and isn't real bright. Otherwise he wouldn't look at two different wide-open receivers standing past the first-down marker, pull the ball down and run sideways for a 3 yard loss so often.

He might not also throw a 4 yard dumpoff to a RB with questionable hands at 97MPH.

I'm not saying he's being blackballed for having a political opinion, as dumb a protest as it was to make, it was his right to do so.

However, you add bad publicity to being a dumb, bad QB and you're going to have a bad time.
 
2017-05-21 12:52:42 AM  
"From all accounts" except the people that actually coached him, of course.
 
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