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(NYPost)   United Airlines once again shows compassion and understanding by charging a soldier returning from Afghanistan $200 for a military duffel bag   ( nypost.com) divider line
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2017-05-18 08:28:51 AM  
You want to know how to lose your free baggage good deal Lieutenant? This is how you lose your free baggage good deal.
 
2017-05-18 09:32:58 AM  
Is this from Duffel Blog?
 
2017-05-18 10:31:36 AM  
our customer care team is reaching out to this customer to issue a refund for his oversized bag as a gesture of goodwill,

How very magnanimous of them.  The Lt. was just trying to get back home to Ottumwa.
 
2017-05-18 10:59:45 AM  
At least they didn't beat him up....cause they knew he could kill them 50 different ways with his bare hands if they tried.
 
2017-05-18 11:24:36 AM  
Some of them are farkheads.

Several years ago, I combined a climbing trip with a business trip.  I had a laptop-backpack carry on and a large duffel with my business clothing and climbing gear.  I weighed it in at about 3 lbs under the limit right before leaving my house.  At the airport, it was 1lb under.  On the way back, small town airport (commuter jet), it was 2lbs over even though it had the same gear (I'm guessing moisture).  They would not give me those two lbs.  I kept unloading 1/2 pound at a time and they still would not let it on without a $120 fee unless I got it exactly at or below the weight.  United.

Southwest, OTOH, will always forgive a few extra pounds.
 
2017-05-18 11:39:30 AM  
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/I hate when that happens
 
2017-05-18 11:41:02 AM  
United airlines sucks but an oversized bag is oversized. Suck it up buttercup.
 
2017-05-18 11:47:35 AM  
From TFA: "A United spokesman said active military personnel are allowed to check five bags free as long as they are under 70 pounds."

Not gonna get too much sympathy here. You're flying with a lot of luggage, you check the rules before the flight. Don't be "that guy" who shows up and doesn't know what's going on. They give you 350 pounds of free baggage. It's hardly an onerous restriction.
 
2017-05-18 11:53:47 AM  

max_pooper: United airlines sucks but an oversized bag is oversized. Suck it up buttercup.


Why do you hate America?
 
2017-05-18 11:54:37 AM  
Kevlar vest: 25-28 lbs
Two helmets - 6 - 8 lbs
boots- 3 lbs/pair
duffel bag itself, milspec: about 2-3 lbs

So, this gear is about 40 lbs. Sounds like LT just wanted a conglomerated ruck for easy carrying.

Sucks, but....to bust out the old phrase, shut up and color.
 
2017-05-18 11:57:08 AM  

dukeblue219: From TFA: "A United spokesman said active military personnel are allowed to check five bags free as long as they are under 70 pounds."

Not gonna get too much sympathy here. You're flying with a lot of luggage, you check the rules before the flight. Don't be "that guy" who shows up and doesn't know what's going on. They give you 350 pounds of free baggage. It's hardly an onerous restriction.


As a civvie, United's policy seems pretty generous for troops.  Us mere mortals have to pay $25 for one single checked bag (and more for each one after that), and it has to be under 50 pounds lest we get smacked with the $200 overage.  Hell, I almost got hit with that for my fiancee's bag being 52 pounds.  Had to shift some stuff into my backpack last minute to avoid that cost.
 
2017-05-18 12:00:20 PM  

dukeblue219: From TFA: "A United spokesman said active military personnel are allowed to check five bags free as long as they are under 70 pounds."

Not gonna get too much sympathy here. You're flying with a lot of luggage, you check the rules before the flight. Don't be "that guy" who shows up and doesn't know what's going on. They give you 350 pounds of free baggage. It's hardly an onerous restriction.


Yep. Otherwise, we'd have the opposite story tomorrow:
United Airlines once again shows compassion and understanding by forcing baggage handlers to spend all day lifting hundred pound bags
 
2017-05-18 12:02:15 PM  

dukeblue219: From TFA: "A United spokesman said active military personnel are allowed to check five bags free as long as they are under 70 pounds."

Not gonna get too much sympathy here. You're flying with a lot of luggage, you check the rules before the flight. Don't be "that guy" who shows up and doesn't know what's going on. They give you 350 pounds of free baggage. It's hardly an onerous restriction.


Dude, if he was flying with his standard CIF issue from Afghanistan, then that's actually pretty easy to overshoot. Let me put it in some perspective... My plate carrier with SAPI plates, unloaded mags, and first aid kit weighed close to 45 pounds by itself. I had a second full flak issued on top of that as well. Then there's the Kevlar helmet, gas mask, entrenching tool, sleeping bag, mat, hydration gear, pack, and tons of other junk before you even get to your personal uniforms and clothing. Meanwhile you have to cram it in as few bags as possible because when you're boots on deck, you're responsible for getting your stuff from point A to B as quickly as possible. It's called the seabag drag for a reason.
 
2017-05-18 12:03:14 PM  
The soldier said he wasn't seeking sympathy - just empathy.
"There was none of that. It was just cold. I had to either pay or leave the bag," said Rader, who paid the hefty fine.


What exactly does he think 'empathy' means? Does he think it means "special treatment"? Because they could give him a shiat ton of empathy, and he'd still have to either pay or leave the bag.

"In the past airlines have been very flexible to soldiers, whether it's upgrading us in our seating arrangements, helping us with numerous bags we travel with often," Rader said.

Ah, yes. Special treatment. That's what he's pissed about.
 
2017-05-18 12:03:16 PM  
Was his duffel bag filled with Pepsi cans autographed by Sean Spicer?
 
2017-05-18 12:08:44 PM  
He's an officer; he can afford it.
 
2017-05-18 12:10:19 PM  
Did this guy enlist to serve his country or to get the 5 percent military discount on gum?
 
2017-05-18 12:17:30 PM  
We were overweight at Orlando once and the nice lady behind desk not only suggested we split luggage into another bag, SHE WENT OFF AND GOT US ONE
 
2017-05-18 12:19:32 PM  

SquirrelNova: dukeblue219: From TFA: "A United spokesman said active military personnel are allowed to check five bags free as long as they are under 70 pounds."

Not gonna get too much sympathy here. You're flying with a lot of luggage, you check the rules before the flight. Don't be "that guy" who shows up and doesn't know what's going on. They give you 350 pounds of free baggage. It's hardly an onerous restriction.

Dude, if he was flying with his standard CIF issue from Afghanistan, then that's actually pretty easy to overshoot. Let me put it in some perspective... My plate carrier with SAPI plates, unloaded mags, and first aid kit weighed close to 45 pounds by itself. I had a second full flak issued on top of that as well. Then there's the Kevlar helmet, gas mask, entrenching tool, sleeping bag, mat, hydration gear, pack, and tons of other junk before you even get to your personal uniforms and clothing. Meanwhile you have to cram it in as few bags as possible because when you're boots on deck, you're responsible for getting your stuff from point A to B as quickly as possible. It's called the seabag drag for a reason.


Made me think of this scene from BoB.

Band Of Brothers - Joe Toye Complaining About the Gear
Youtube Q9XdxpDqgyY
 
2017-05-18 12:21:56 PM  
Does he own this property or is it property of the US Government? If it's his property, then he should be responsible for getting it back home on his dime. If it's the US' property, they should take care of it.

Is this someone that we trust with millions (if not billions) of dollars worth of equipment? Is this a person that is allowed to kill people in combat or order people to be killed? If so, then he should be able to manage to understand the baggage guidelines of an airline just as we lesser mortals are expected to.
 
2017-05-18 12:34:44 PM  

UberDave: Some of them are farkheads.

Several years ago, I combined a climbing trip with a business trip.  I had a laptop-backpack carry on and a large duffel with my business clothing and climbing gear.  I weighed it in at about 3 lbs under the limit right before leaving my house.  At the airport, it was 1lb under.  On the way back, small town airport (commuter jet), it was 2lbs over even though it had the same gear (I'm guessing moisture).  They would not give me those two lbs.  I kept unloading 1/2 pound at a time and they still would not let it on without a $120 fee unless I got it exactly at or below the weight.  United.

Southwest, OTOH, will always forgive a few extra pounds.


Check at curbside.  Tip appropriately.
 
2017-05-18 12:51:06 PM  

ahasp: Does he own this property or is it property of the US Government? If it's his property, then he should be responsible for getting it back home on his dime. If it's the US' property, they should take care of it.


LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL  *breath*  LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
 
2017-05-18 01:03:48 PM  
If it's on a commercial flight, it's not a "military bag".
 
2017-05-18 01:42:27 PM  

Theaetetus: Yep. Otherwise, we'd have the opposite story tomorrow:
United Airlines once again shows compassion and understanding by forcing baggage handlers to spend all day lifting hundred pound bags


What's next?  UPS makes delivery drivers walk all the way up to front doors?
 
2017-05-18 01:45:26 PM  
It's really not coming out of his pocket.
 
2017-05-18 01:53:01 PM  
My tax dollars pay your salary snowflake, so kindly STFU and pay for it like everyone else does.
 
2017-05-18 02:17:25 PM  

SCUBA_Archer: Theaetetus: Yep. Otherwise, we'd have the opposite story tomorrow:
United Airlines once again shows compassion and understanding by forcing baggage handlers to spend all day lifting hundred pound bags

What's next?  UPS makes delivery drivers walk all the way up to front doors?


Apparently not, judging from the package I got yesterday that was thrown at my front door from the street.

/it says "perishable", which means "leave out in the sun and don't bother ringing the bell"
 
2017-05-18 02:28:10 PM  
I just called my local National Guard recruiting office, and they said one of the travel perk's was no checked-luggage fees...

So now I raged.
 
2017-05-18 03:06:25 PM  
With all the bad press on United he thought he could just pile on.
But fark him, you didn't follow the rules which allow you WAAAAY more free luggage than the average person.
 
2017-05-18 03:18:46 PM  
Found a pic

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2017-05-18 03:48:47 PM  
If he's traveling on orders he'll get reimbursed.  If he paid for the ticket he should have known the rules.
/ Pay up, sit down, and shut up.
 
2017-05-18 04:26:16 PM  

HempHead: UberDave: Some of them are farkheads.

Several years ago, I combined a climbing trip with a business trip.  I had a laptop-backpack carry on and a large duffel with my business clothing and climbing gear.  I weighed it in at about 3 lbs under the limit right before leaving my house.  At the airport, it was 1lb under.  On the way back, small town airport (commuter jet), it was 2lbs over even though it had the same gear (I'm guessing moisture).  They would not give me those two lbs.  I kept unloading 1/2 pound at a time and they still would not let it on without a $120 fee unless I got it exactly at or below the weight.  United.

Southwest, OTOH, will always forgive a few extra pounds.

Check at curbside.  Tip appropriately.


The airport in Idaho Falls doesn't have much of a curbside.
 
2017-05-18 04:30:26 PM  

UberDave: HempHead: UberDave: Some of them are farkheads.

Several years ago, I combined a climbing trip with a business trip.  I had a laptop-backpack carry on and a large duffel with my business clothing and climbing gear.  I weighed it in at about 3 lbs under the limit right before leaving my house.  At the airport, it was 1lb under.  On the way back, small town airport (commuter jet), it was 2lbs over even though it had the same gear (I'm guessing moisture).  They would not give me those two lbs.  I kept unloading 1/2 pound at a time and they still would not let it on without a $120 fee unless I got it exactly at or below the weight.  United.

Southwest, OTOH, will always forgive a few extra pounds.

Check at curbside.  Tip appropriately.

The airport in Idaho Falls doesn't have much of a curbside.


Roadside ditch check?
 
2017-05-18 04:51:44 PM  

HempHead: UberDave: Some of them are farkheads.

Several years ago, I combined a climbing trip with a business trip.  I had a laptop-backpack carry on and a large duffel with my business clothing and climbing gear.  I weighed it in at about 3 lbs under the limit right before leaving my house.  At the airport, it was 1lb under.  On the way back, small town airport (commuter jet), it was 2lbs over even though it had the same gear (I'm guessing moisture).  They would not give me those two lbs.  I kept unloading 1/2 pound at a time and they still would not let it on without a $120 fee unless I got it exactly at or below the weight.  United.

Southwest, OTOH, will always forgive a few extra pounds.

Check at curbside.  Tip appropriately.


Check at curbside, tip appr-

I see the solution to a slightly overweight/oversized bag has been covered.  Carry on.
 
2017-05-18 05:07:53 PM  
Take the boots out of the bag. Put them on your feet. Take the shoes you are currently wearing and sling them around your neck with the laces tied up.
Put your Kevlar vest on over your shirt to wear it on the plane.
Put those two helmets on top of your head to wear them on the plane.
 
2017-05-18 05:08:49 PM  

UberDave: I weighed it in at about 3 lbs under the limit right before leaving my house.  At the airport, it was 1lb under.  On the way back, small town airport (commuter jet), it was 2lbs over even though it had the same gear (I'm guessing moisture).


Why don't you guess "different scales" as a better explanation?
 
2017-05-18 06:18:11 PM  

mrmopar5287: UberDave: I weighed it in at about 3 lbs under the limit right before leaving my house.  At the airport, it was 1lb under.  On the way back, small town airport (commuter jet), it was 2lbs over even though it had the same gear (I'm guessing moisture).

Why don't you guess "different scales" as a better explanation?


Well, that's typically why I make sure it is a few pounds under.  That time, I measured 3lbs under at home and the airport in Houston had me at 1.5lbs under.  Idaho Falls had me at 2lbs over.  That was a surprise and quite a difference to be sure because there was "nothing" different about the luggage other than everything having been used.  I had a 70m, 10mm climbing rope which was dry treated.  But even so, I've heard they can absorb 10%-20% of their weight in water (higher the older it gets...like over 40%).  That rope weighed just over 10lbs before the trip.  I didn't check it afterward but I did deal with wet conditions.

I also tried to use the scale difference excuse with the lady at the counter, explaining to her that my luggage, save for a different change of like-clothes, contains the exact same things it did in Houston yet their scale put me under.
 
2017-05-18 06:22:41 PM  

max_pooper: UberDave: HempHead: UberDave: Some of them are farkheads.

Several years ago, I combined a climbing trip with a business trip.  I had a laptop-backpack carry on and a large duffel with my business clothing and climbing gear.  I weighed it in at about 3 lbs under the limit right before leaving my house.  At the airport, it was 1lb under.  On the way back, small town airport (commuter jet), it was 2lbs over even though it had the same gear (I'm guessing moisture).  They would not give me those two lbs.  I kept unloading 1/2 pound at a time and they still would not let it on without a $120 fee unless I got it exactly at or below the weight.  United.

Southwest, OTOH, will always forgive a few extra pounds.

Check at curbside.  Tip appropriately.

The airport in Idaho Falls doesn't have much of a curbside.

Roadside ditch check?


Heh.  I first flew there in 1988 for a ski trip when I was a kid.  That airport looks almost *exactly* the same.  I actually like small airports like that.  The distance from the gate to the luggage carrossel to the car rent counter to the actual rent car is less than *half* the distance from the C-terminal security to the gate at IAH.  There's seemingly no people.  And I always get free-upgraded on the car rental.  Other than United sucking ass, it's pretty nice.
 
2017-05-18 06:44:04 PM  

dukeblue219: From TFA: "A United spokesman said active military personnel are allowed to check five bags free as long as they are under 70 pounds."

Not gonna get too much sympathy here. You're flying with a lot of luggage, you check the rules before the flight. Don't be "that guy" who shows up and doesn't know what's going on. They give you 350 pounds of free baggage. It's hardly an onerous restriction.


Kindly fark of, eh? When leaving a war zone you may have some other things on your mind than jumping through bullshiat hoops of a shiattastic company. Perhaps they should pull their heads out of their asses and realize that some exceptions need to be made. It's not like he was there for a farking cruise.
 
2017-05-19 10:01:49 AM  

dukeblue219: From TFA: "A United spokesman said active military personnel are allowed to check five bags free as long as they are under 70 pounds."

Not gonna get too much sympathy here. You're flying with a lot of luggage, you check the rules before the flight. Don't be "that guy" who shows up and doesn't know what's going on. They give you 350 pounds of free baggage. It's hardly an onerous restriction.


He is "flying with a lot of luggage" because the US government sent him to Afghanistan.  The duffel and most of the crap inside it is stuff that he was required to bring to Afghanistan and back.  He shouldn't be paying for any of it.  If the military decides to farm its transportation needs out to commercial airlines, it needs to find a way to handle the bullshiat.  Remember the soldiers who couldn't fly home because a swab of their battlefield gear revealed "traces of explosives"?

Maybe the US military needs planes airports of its own just to get around this bullshiat.
 
2017-05-19 02:20:09 PM  

Wellon Dowd: Did this guy enlist to serve his country or to get the 5 percent military discount on gum?


War were declared.
 
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