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2017-04-21 07:33:37 AM  

EbolaNYC: skinink: I'm more offended that he thinks every piece of decor looks better off good colored. Those curtains behind him look shiatty. Trump could just hire an interior decorator to make good decisions for him. Those curtains are so tacky, they look like something someone purchased from a 99¢ store.

He's exactly what poor white people imagine how a rich person should live.


Or what a hobo imagines a rich man to be.

The Dow Jones and the very rich Donald Trump
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2017-04-21 07:34:27 AM  
Stop picking on Trump. Those Eye-talian names just have too many syllables.
 
2017-04-21 07:38:17 AM  
When people talk about friends who are dead it isn't exactly common to insert "who is currently dead" or "when he was alive". if the other person knows who you are talking about.  Calling out Trump on his claim of being friends would be reasonable and probably valid.  Saying that his statement meant he thinks Pavarotti is still alive is just plain reaching.

If I were to say "I met George Carlin when I got backstage at the Wheeler theater." you could assume I was lying (and you would be right) but I doubt you would assume I meant recently.
 
2017-04-21 07:39:53 AM  
Time travel, you say?

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2017-04-21 07:40:27 AM  
So close that Pavarotti's family wanted Trump to stop using his music.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-pavarotti-trump-idUSKC​N​1012T0
 
2017-04-21 07:43:34 AM  

luckyeddie: Time travel, you say?

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Eye lol'd
 
2017-04-21 07:47:41 AM  
I'm still surprised he didn't say "Dong, Where is my automobile?" to Xi.
 
2017-04-21 07:52:29 AM  

Noah_Tall: When people talk about friends who are dead it isn't exactly common to insert "who is currently dead" or "when he was alive". if the other person knows who you are talking about.  Calling out Trump on his claim of being friends would be reasonable and probably valid.  Saying that his statement meant he thinks Pavarotti is still alive is just plain reaching.

If I were to say "I met George Carlin when I got backstage at the Wheeler theater." you could assume I was lying (and you would be right) but I doubt you would assume I meant recently.


It's not reaching.

My wife's father has been dead for about the same amount of time as Pavarotti. Not once has anyone who knew him said "is" when referring to him since his death, not even the stupidest people.
I've never said Abraham Lincoln is a great man, but I've said was plenty of times.
There is no way any reasonable person can conclude anything except that Trump is a bold-faced liar (my personal take) or senile/demented (also my personal take).
But Trump didn't win the election off of votes from reasonable people, so I'm sure he doesn't give any more farks about this than any other bullshiat he's spewed in the past.
 
2017-04-21 07:54:54 AM  

Noah_Tall: When people talk about friends who are dead it isn't exactly common to insert "who is currently dead" or "when he was alive". if the other person knows who you are talking about.  Calling out Trump on his claim of being friends would be reasonable and probably valid.  Saying that his statement meant he thinks Pavarotti is still alive is just plain reaching.

If I were to say "I met George Carlin when I got backstage at the Wheeler theater." you could assume I was lying (and you would be right) but I doubt you would assume I meant recently.


You used the past tense.
Trump used word salad, so who knows what he was trying to say.
Do we know if Trump and Pavarotti ever even met?
 
2017-04-21 07:56:17 AM  
He knows one farking thing about Italian culture, and that guy died 10 years ago.
 
2017-04-21 07:56:36 AM  

FatherChaos: Wait til he finds out this guy is also no longer with us:

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Snoop Dogg looks good with some extra weight and a suit.
 
2017-04-21 07:57:41 AM  

Noah_Tall: When people talk about friends who are dead it isn't exactly common to insert "who is currently dead" or "when he was alive". if the other person knows who you are talking about.  Calling out Trump on his claim of being friends would be reasonable and probably valid.  Saying that his statement meant he thinks Pavarotti is still alive is just plain reaching.

If I were to say "I met George Carlin when I got backstage at the Wheeler theater." you could assume I was lying (and you would be right) but I doubt you would assume I meant recently.


You used past tense in your example...Trump didn't and that is the problem.
 
2017-04-21 07:59:56 AM  
Sure, this is just one incident that could well be just a strange slip of the tongue, or inaccurate phrasology on a subject of little actual importance.

But when there are multiple such incidents on any given day.  Over any given week.  And often on subjects that have grave implications.  Then it's no longer just one incident.  Then it's another data point showing a clear trend.

This is a brain drowning in it's own fat and plaque.  I will be genuinely shocked if Trump lives until 2020, let alone is declared competent to exercise the duties of President.
 
2017-04-21 08:02:09 AM  

draconian: You farking idiots sure do not like context, leaving out how he is talking about Italy's history of artistic achievement...and I guess stop calling a person a friend after they die. Such cold-hearted ignoramuses.


The issue is he has to insert himself into every situation to make himself look good.  He can't just say that Italy has a historical tradition of artistic achievement stretching from the Renaissance to modern masters such as Pavarotti, or maybe name check a current Italian artist.   He has to show that the most popular tenor of a generation acknowledged His greatness.  he's a starfarker, pure and simple.
 
2017-04-21 08:02:23 AM  
I'm friends with dead people.

A new movie from M. Night Shamalamadingdong
 
2017-04-21 08:03:40 AM  
He also was good friends with Enrico Pallazzo.
 
2017-04-21 08:05:04 AM  

Kurohone: Sure, this is just one incident that could well be just a strange slip of the tongue, or inaccurate phrasology on a subject of little actual importance.


Nah, he does this crap all the time.  During the campaign he went to Pittsburgh, asked how Joe Paterno was doing, and said he was close personal friends with Tom Brady.  I'm sure he had similar fark ups in other cities, this is just the one I'm familiar with.

At least Pavarotti is too busy being dead to call him on his bullshiat.  He tried this with Steeler QB Ben Roethlisberger  and Big Ben shut him down almost instantly.
 
2017-04-21 08:07:59 AM  

calbert: eh, Trump was probably thinking Enrico Palazzo anyways.


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"Whoops... Sorry, fellas... "
 
2017-04-21 08:12:26 AM  

Fury Pilot: Noah_Tall: When people talk about friends who are dead it isn't exactly common to insert "who is currently dead" or "when he was alive". if the other person knows who you are talking about.  Calling out Trump on his claim of being friends would be reasonable and probably valid.  Saying that his statement meant he thinks Pavarotti is still alive is just plain reaching.

If I were to say "I met George Carlin when I got backstage at the Wheeler theater." you could assume I was lying (and you would be right) but I doubt you would assume I meant recently.

You used the past tense.
Trump used word salad, so who knows what he was trying to say.
Do we know if Trump and Pavarotti ever even met?


Weren't they on the same tv show once (different segments) transmitted from different countries, but they met...ohh wait, that was Putin.  Never mind!
 
2017-04-21 08:17:14 AM  

Officer Barrelroll: bonobo73: ftv: "...Pavarotti, a friend of mine, a great friend of mine,..."

No present tense (or any tense), no foul.

Thanks wapost, subby and mods for greenlighting a big bag of nothing.

That's because Trump doesn't speak English like a normal adult.  I'm much more likely to believe that Trump is lying and has no idea that Pavarotti is dead as opposed to him speaking in a more general sense that they were once great friends.

I wish someone had followed his statement up with a question about when he last spoke with Pavarotti.  I bet Trump would have said Pavarotti called him to congratulate him on winning the election and telling him it was glorious how Trump got 306 electoral votes when nobody thought it was possible.


People need to start doing this. Giving him enough rope to hang himself.
 
2017-04-21 08:20:21 AM  
Next up on his tour: trump to tell British PM that his lover Margaret Thatcher is the tits.
 
2017-04-21 08:23:42 AM  

Kurohone: Sure, this is just one incident that could well be just a strange slip of the tongue, or inaccurate phrasology on a subject of little actual importance.

But when there are multiple such incidents on any given day.  Over any given week.  And often on subjects that have grave implications.  Then it's no longer just one incident.  Then it's another data point showing a clear trend.

This is a brain drowning in it's own fat and plaque.  I will be genuinely shocked if Trump lives until 2020, let alone is declared competent to exercise the duties of President.


Who says you have to be competent (mentally or otherwise) to be president?  I might be wrong, but I'm not aware of any mental fitness test for President.  On top of that the only way to remove him (because I doubt his ego would let him resign) is impeachment.  At this point, he'd basically have to go on national tv and give a state of the union address saying he had slept with each congressman's spouse while robbing the Treasury, giving Putin free reign to use our military, nuking Israel to get impeached.  So now we find the fatal flaw in the Constitution.  The founders never expected an egomaniac with mental health problems could be elected so they didn't really put in a viable way of removing him.
 
2017-04-21 08:25:50 AM  

Circusdog320: Doesnt Luciano hang out with Fredrick Douglass?


Amazingly applicable:
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2017-04-21 08:26:13 AM  
yes, the two of them used to get together with Frederick Douglass and have hot jam sessions.
 
2017-04-21 08:26:39 AM  

alphabravo42: skinink: I'm more offended that he thinks every piece of decor looks better off good colored. Those curtains behind him look shiatty. Trump could just hire an interior decorator to make good decisions for him. Those curtains are so tacky, they look like something someone purchased from a 99¢ store.

Funnily enough Bill Clinton used those.

https://www.aol.com/article/lifestyle/2017/02/06/trump-gold-drapes-ova​l-office/21708101/



Yeah, but he also used a blue rug, which contrasted nicely with the drapes.
 
2017-04-21 08:29:20 AM  
I ran a GIS and found this photo that totally proves Trump and Pavarotti were tight buds:

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Suck it, haters!
 
2017-04-21 08:29:34 AM  

ArcadianRefugee: EJ25T: clodcomplex: [img.fark.net image 586x606]

Not one, but two "real Americans" wearing hats in the goddamn Oval Office. Reeeal nice, Clark.
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You should always remove your hat.

Because reasons.

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2017-04-21 08:33:57 AM  

Pointy Tail of Satan: Sure, Trump talks to Pavarotti all the time.....

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But the Bible thumpers lurv him.

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2017-04-21 08:34:11 AM  
Ok, can we just accept an axiom and move on? Trump and the truth and reality haven't seen one another in years. He reminds me of the kid I knew in grade school who swore as the gospel truth that his dad let him fly his F-4E Phantom II on weekends.
 
2017-04-21 08:34:52 AM  

EJ25T: clodcomplex: [img.fark.net image 586x606]

Not one, but two "real Americans" wearing hats in the goddamn Oval Office. Reeeal nice, Clark.
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Kid Rock's hat looks screwed on so tightly that it would remove his eyebrows if he took it off.
 
2017-04-21 08:37:38 AM  

Dictatorial_Flair: Not going nowhere, slim chance he will.


Nice. You don't see a lot of bloodhound gang references.
 
2017-04-21 08:37:57 AM  
He didn't mean Pavarotti. He meant Paganini.

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2017-04-21 08:38:29 AM  
The real scandal is that Trump is the type of vapid fool who thinks every rich person or celebrity he ever met is his friend.

It's like the guy I knew in college who said he had over 100 friends (long before Facebook) and would try to go to any party he heard of to "make cameos". You shallow twat, you don't have ANY friends. Not real ones. People who just gladhand you and smile for 5 minutes are acquaintances.
 
2017-04-21 08:39:32 AM  
Armchair_Invective: yes, the two of them used to get together with Frederick Douglass and have "hot jam sessions".


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2017-04-21 08:40:14 AM  

Officer Barrelroll: I wish someone had followed his statement up with a question about when he last spoke with Pavarotti.


Damn that would have been EPIC had someone done that.

You suppose the press corps just nixes those kind of "gotcha" moments out of respect for the office or some other noble ideal?
 
2017-04-21 08:41:15 AM  
Has anyone found a photo of Trump and Pavarotti?
 
2017-04-21 08:41:50 AM  
Putting aside that he possibly doesn't understand verb tense... lets talk about his childish need to make everything about him.  Italian history of artistic achievement, yes, that's the perfect time to talk about himself.

There are zero images of Trump and Pavarotti standing together.  It's unlikely they ever met, or that Trump ever even attended one of his concerts.  Considering that Pavarotti was one of the most photographed men in the world, and that Donald once crashed a fundraiser to sit on stage with the primary donors without making a significant donation himself, I find it inconceivable that they met without attention whore Donny having a picture taken.

His widow and three daughters sent the following letter to Trump's campaign, because they wanted him to stop playing a Pavarotti Nessum Dorma recording.   "[T]he values of brotherhood and solidarity that Luciano Pavarotti upheld throughout his artistic career are incompatible with the world vision of the candidate Donald Trump."
 
2017-04-21 08:43:42 AM  
Best friend (as in bought the tux I can still [barely] fit in to stand up front in his wedding to the girl I talked into saying yes to his first date request) died in hospice after fighting cancer for 15 years. We started using "was" about an hour before the last heartbeat.

I call complete and utter bullshiat.
 
2017-04-21 08:45:52 AM  
Could he be more robotic reading that speech?  Siri has more emotion.  He sounds like my 7 year old reading, same cadence and zero inflection.
 
2017-04-21 08:46:23 AM  

ArcadianRefugee: EJ25T: clodcomplex: [img.fark.net image 586x606]

Not one, but two "real Americans" wearing hats in the goddamn Oval Office. Reeeal nice, Clark.
[img.fark.net image 320x240]

You should always remove your hat.

Because reasons.


Because etiquette but I guess all 4 of those people have no idea what that is so that is what you get.
 
2017-04-21 08:48:41 AM  

kokomo61: EbolaNYC: skinink: I'm more offended that he thinks every piece of decor looks better off good colored. Those curtains behind him look shiatty. Trump could just hire an interior decorator to make good decisions for him. Those curtains are so tacky, they look like something someone purchased from a 99¢ store.

He's exactly what poor white people imagine how a rich person should live.

Or what a hobo imagines a rich man to be.

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My friend grew up in poverty, and ended up making average to good money.  Her house is decorated in the tackiest manner possible.  Walls of mirrors, lots of gold trim, and overly ornate details.  Looks like a low budget interior from a Newport Mansion, inside a ranch house.
 
2017-04-21 08:50:57 AM  

Kurohone: Sure, this is just one incident that could well be just a strange slip of the tongue, or inaccurate phrasology on a subject of little actual importance.

But when there are multiple such incidents on any given day.  Over any given week.  And often on subjects that have grave implications.  Then it's no longer just one incident.  Then it's another data point showing a clear trend.

This is a brain drowning in it's own fat and plaque.  I will be genuinely shocked if Trump lives until 2020, let alone is declared competent to exercise the duties of President.


I kind of hate these stories. They do show a troubling greater trend, which should be documented and accurately portrayed in books/movies, but they are easy to dismiss individually by supporters.

There are real issues and concerns that we should maintain focus on.   The tax documents, is important, but feels like screaming Benghazi.  The Nepatism and appointing under qualified people to made up positions. The ties to Russia, and Russian social engineering to influence the election toward Trump, is real and significant.  We should maintain focus on that until the other side is sick of hearing about it, and possibly begins to question their opinions.  Harping on Benghazi and Emails had made Hillary unlikeable, even to people who found no fault in what she did.
 
2017-04-21 08:53:23 AM  

TNel: ArcadianRefugee: EJ25T: clodcomplex: [img.fark.net image 586x606]

Not one, but two "real Americans" wearing hats in the goddamn Oval Office. Reeeal nice, Clark.
[img.fark.net image 320x240]

You should always remove your hat.

Because reasons.

Because etiquette but I guess all 4 of those people have no idea what that is so that is what you get.


I don't subscribe to the 'never wear a hat indoors' thing, but this is the farking White House. Make an effort!
 
2017-04-21 08:54:02 AM  

Diacetylmorphine: Officer Barrelroll: I wish someone had followed his statement up with a question about when he last spoke with Pavarotti.

Damn that would have been EPIC had someone done that.

You suppose the press corps just nixes those kind of "gotcha" moments out of respect for the office or some other noble ideal?


They're not supposed to create news. Provoking a political figure into a mis-step would be doing that. Paparazzi and trash press do that. Proper journalists do not.

It's not like Trump needs any help embarrassing himself, anyway.
 
2017-04-21 08:54:55 AM  

clodcomplex: [img.fark.net image 586x606]


Fake News!  Trump knows how to read.

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2017-04-21 09:00:30 AM  
Watched video a couple of times. I'm no Trumpet, but it doesn't really seem to imply that he thinks Pavarotti is still alive. In fact, he seems cognizant and respectful of the fact he's gone. Attacks like this dilute the real concerns about Trump's leadership and these sorts of assumptions delegitimize any valid complaints about him and his administration
 
2017-04-21 09:16:50 AM  

starsrift: Diacetylmorphine: Officer Barrelroll: I wish someone had followed his statement up with a question about when he last spoke with Pavarotti.

Damn that would have been EPIC had someone done that.

You suppose the press corps just nixes those kind of "gotcha" moments out of respect for the office or some other noble ideal?

They're not supposed to create news. Provoking a political figure into a mis-step would be doing that. Paparazzi and trash press do that. Proper journalists do not.

It's not like Trump needs any help embarrassing himself, anyway.


Opinions like this are why journalism is dying.

Asking a follow up is not "provoking," it's doing their f*cking job. The press isn't supposed to just blindly accept anything.
 
2017-04-21 09:24:15 AM  

LowbrowDeluxe: Can't wait to hear Spicer explain what he 'really meant' and spin away the obvious senile dementia.


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MOAR!
 
2017-04-21 09:25:08 AM  

sauce_jenkins: Watched video a couple of times. I'm no Trumpet, but it doesn't really seem to imply that he thinks Pavarotti is still alive. In fact, he seems cognizant and respectful of the fact he's gone. Attacks like this dilute the real concerns about Trump's leadership and these sorts of assumptions delegitimize any valid complaints about him and his administration


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2017-04-21 09:25:14 AM  

LowbrowDeluxe: Can't wait to hear Spicer explain what he 'really meant' and spin away the obvious senile dementia.


I don't think it sounds like senility or dementia at all. He's just a liar and bullshiatter and thinks he's much better at bluffing his way into appearing knowledgeable than he is.
 
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