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(Mother Nature Network)   Africa's famine problem could be eradicated if the world would just come together and build a moveable skyscraper that could hold enough food to feed everyone on the continent   ( mnn.com) divider line
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2017-04-14 07:29:56 AM  
Unnecessary.  Africa's famine problem could be eliminated with political stability.  It was only 100 years ago that Europe still had famines and 50 years ago in the Soviet Union and China.  Famines don't happen when farmers can farm and when crops can be shipped.  Solve the war and terrible government problem and you won't have the famine problem.  Yes, I know it's difficult but it's more effective than whiz bang technology solutions.
 
2017-04-14 08:32:36 AM  
Ben Carson like typing detected.
 
2017-04-14 08:32:59 AM  
Or, you know, use GMO crops and stop killing each other?
 
2017-04-14 08:35:04 AM  

Joe Blowme: Or, you know, use GMO crops and stop killing each other?


UNPOSSIBRU!
 
2017-04-14 08:36:47 AM  
Sam Kinison World Hunger
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2017-04-14 08:37:46 AM  

Rapmaster2000: Unnecessary.  Africa's famine problem could be eliminated with political stability.  It was only 100 years ago that Europe still had famines and 50 years ago in the Soviet Union and China.  Famines don't happen when farmers can farm and when crops can be shipped.  Solve the war and terrible government problem and you won't have the famine problem.  Yes, I know it's difficult but it's more effective than whiz bang technology solutions.


And about as likely to happen.
 
2017-04-14 08:40:35 AM  
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2017-04-14 08:40:38 AM  
Spherical cows are handy.
 
2017-04-14 08:42:52 AM  
Thete's a pilot program being instituted her in Namibia. It's a combination of chicken (free-range and no growth hormone crap) fish and maggot farming scheme. The maggot part of it is to create and supplement feed for the chickens and fish so as to reduce and even try to eliminate imports of this type. My sister and her BF is heavily involved in the project and i'm thinking about getting a hand into it too.
If the project goes as planned it's projected to increase chicken (and egg) production by an order of magnitude for the next competitor inthe country and also break the monopoly they've had for decades now.
 
2017-04-14 08:43:08 AM  
we all know matter and energy are interchangeable, so get to work on those replicators.


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2017-04-14 08:44:52 AM  
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They try this in 2065.  Almost killed a reporter and is cameraman.  No one ever said what happened to the nuclear powered device that was pulling the Empire State Building.
 
2017-04-14 08:46:19 AM  
I give it two weeks before it turns into the Peach Trees ala Dredd.  Every couple of levels controlled by a different warlord
 
2017-04-14 08:49:17 AM  
How about we get people to stop shooting up their joints, so that people can get back to farming.

Ethiopia used to be not just the breadbasket of Africa, but pretty much the whole damned "civilized world." It's not like a continent with THIS much land area shouldn't be able to produce its own damn food.

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2017-04-14 08:49:33 AM  
Africa wouldn't have nearly as many issues if we allowed them to fend for themselves.

Before the hate-storm; think about it logically. How much do you suppose a bushel of wheat sells for if you are constantly being given its products for free. The answer is: not much. So, instead of food, most farmers in Africa are growing cash crops like Tobacco. It's when the price of said cash crops drop AND we don't give them enough food that people start dropping.

/ it's the result of a truly free market.
 
2017-04-14 08:51:02 AM  

Smoking GNU: It's a combination of chicken (free-range and no growth hormone crap) fish and maggot farming scheme.


as if starving people give a shiat
 
2017-04-14 08:52:10 AM  
2024.  Damn.  I might live long enough to get a check ride in TB2
 
2017-04-14 08:53:10 AM  

iheartscotch: Africa wouldn't have nearly as many issues if we allowed them to fend for themselves.

Before the hate-storm; think about it logically. How much do you suppose a bushel of wheat sells for if you are constantly being given its products for free. The answer is: not much. So, instead of food, most farmers in Africa are growing cash crops like Tobacco. It's when the price of said cash crops drop AND we don't give them enough food that people start dropping.

/ it's the result of a truly free market.


Which one is it?
 
2017-04-14 08:53:57 AM  
Maybe if they'd stop farking like rabbits....
 
2017-04-14 08:54:12 AM  

SirDigbyChickenCaesar: Smoking GNU: It's a combination of chicken (free-range and no growth hormone crap) fish and maggot farming scheme.

as if starving people give a shiat


The reason that they're starting this program here in Namibia is because of the small population and because we're one of the most politically stable countried on the continent. Once it starts working here it's supposed to spread all over the continent, firstly to Angola and Zambia.
 
2017-04-14 08:54:16 AM  

Smoking GNU: Thete's a pilot program being instituted her in Namibia. It's a combination of chicken (free-range and no growth hormone crap) fish and maggot farming scheme. The maggot part of it is to create and supplement feed for the chickens and fish so as to reduce and even try to eliminate imports of this type. My sister and her BF is heavily involved in the project and i'm thinking about getting a hand into it too.
If the project goes as planned it's projected to increase chicken (and egg) production by an order of magnitude for the next competitor inthe country and also break the monopoly they've had for decades now.


This is awesome.  Good luck
 
2017-04-14 08:55:14 AM  
How about a castle?

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2017-04-14 08:55:51 AM  

Teaser: [iFrame https://www.youtube.com/embed/P0q4o58pKwA - 480x360]


Came for this, leaving satisfied
 
2017-04-14 08:56:01 AM  

Joe Blowme: Or, you know, use GMO crops and stop killing each other?


Alternatively, kill everyone.
 
2017-04-14 08:56:35 AM  

SirDigbyChickenCaesar: iheartscotch: Africa wouldn't have nearly as many issues if we allowed them to fend for themselves.

Before the hate-storm; think about it logically. How much do you suppose a bushel of wheat sells for if you are constantly being given its products for free. The answer is: not much. So, instead of food, most farmers in Africa are growing cash crops like Tobacco. It's when the price of said cash crops drop AND we don't give them enough food that people start dropping.

/ it's the result of a truly free market.

Which one is it?


You seem to be laboring under the misapprehension that those two things are mutually exclusive.

If you can get something for free, why would you ever pay for it?
 
2017-04-14 08:57:26 AM  
Or maybe less warlords in the unstable countries, and less corruption in the "stable" countries (looking at you, Zuma).

Doesn't help that former colonial powers still actively destabilize governments they don't like i.e. the ones that refuse to put their countries into massive debt to the World Bank and IMF, and by so doing, indenture themselves indefinitely to First World interests.

But who cares - just brown people - right?
 
2017-04-14 08:58:49 AM  
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2017-04-14 09:00:05 AM  
Came to say it sounded like a Pyramid scheme, but Maturin  beat be to it.
 
2017-04-14 09:00:44 AM  

hubiestubert: How about we get people to stop shooting up their joints, so that people can get back to farming.

Ethiopia used to be not just the breadbasket of Africa, but pretty much the whole damned "civilized world." It's not like a continent with THIS much land area shouldn't be able to produce its own damn food.

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Yeah Antarctica, get with the program!
 
2017-04-14 09:01:13 AM  

big pig peaches: Rapmaster2000: Unnecessary.  Africa's famine problem could be eliminated with political stability.  It was only 100 years ago that Europe still had famines and 50 years ago in the Soviet Union and China.  Famines don't happen when farmers can farm and when crops can be shipped.  Solve the war and terrible government problem and you won't have the famine problem.  Yes, I know it's difficult but it's more effective than whiz bang technology solutions.

And about as likely to happen.


The same thing was said about Europe 100 years ago when it was a raft of competing Ethno-nationalists led by autocrats getting into shooting wars on a regular basis.

Ethiopia hasn't had a famine since they got rid of a ridiculous communist government obsessed with central planning.  The same thing happened in China with the death of Mao. Meanwhile, famine in North Korea rolls on.
 
2017-04-14 09:01:14 AM  
Ummm, prosperity doesn't come from agriculture. Th
 
2017-04-14 09:01:41 AM  

FloridaFarkTag: Smoking GNU: Thete's a pilot program being instituted her in Namibia. It's a combination of chicken (free-range and no growth hormone crap) fish and maggot farming scheme. The maggot part of it is to create and supplement feed for the chickens and fish so as to reduce and even try to eliminate imports of this type. My sister and her BF is heavily involved in the project and i'm thinking about getting a hand into it too.
If the project goes as planned it's projected to increase chicken (and egg) production by an order of magnitude for the next competitor inthe country and also break the monopoly they've had for decades now.

This is awesome.  Good luck


The nice part is is that if i sign on, i pay about N$1200 for a one day course on how to do the whole shebang and then by the whole agreement (this being a government run project) i get a hectare of land for 99 years to run my own little maggotfarm on.

I think i might just go from being unemployed to being a maggotfarmer.
 
2017-04-14 09:01:43 AM  

iheartscotch: Africa wouldn't have nearly as many issues if we allowed them to fend for themselves.

Before the hate-storm; think about it logically. How much do you suppose a bushel of wheat sells for if you are constantly being given its products for free. The answer is: not much. So, instead of food, most farmers in Africa are growing cash crops like Tobacco. It's when the price of said cash crops drop AND we don't give them enough food that people start dropping.

/ it's the result of a truly free market.


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2017-04-14 09:02:47 AM  

iheartscotch: SirDigbyChickenCaesar: iheartscotch: Africa wouldn't have nearly as many issues if we allowed them to fend for themselves.

Before the hate-storm; think about it logically. How much do you suppose a bushel of wheat sells for if you are constantly being given its products for free. The answer is: not much. So, instead of food, most farmers in Africa are growing cash crops like Tobacco. It's when the price of said cash crops drop AND we don't give them enough food that people start dropping.

/ it's the result of a truly free market.

Which one is it?

You seem to be laboring under the misapprehension that those two things are mutually exclusive.

If you can get something for free, why would you ever pay for it?


He's not arguing against the concept of how game theory reacts to free products entering the market, he's pointing out that foreign insertion of free product into the local economy is not a free market at work.
 
2017-04-14 09:04:23 AM  

Matthew Keene: Maybe if they'd stop farking like rabbits....


This deserves a This. Because this.
 
2017-04-14 09:04:57 AM  

Private_Citizen: iheartscotch: Africa wouldn't have nearly as many issues if we allowed them to fend for themselves.

Before the hate-storm; think about it logically. How much do you suppose a bushel of wheat sells for if you are constantly being given its products for free. The answer is: not much. So, instead of food, most farmers in Africa are growing cash crops like Tobacco. It's when the price of said cash crops drop AND we don't give them enough food that people start dropping.

/ it's the result of a truly free market.

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That's exactly what we've done in Africa. Thank you for making my point so adroitly, Supply-side Jesus.
 
2017-04-14 09:05:47 AM  
They should open up some supermarkets like Wegmans. That's where the food is purchased.
 
2017-04-14 09:09:36 AM  

Lt. Cheese Weasel: Matthew Keene: Maybe if they'd stop farking like rabbits....

This deserves a This. Because this.


Um. No. overpopulation is a myth.
Rap master 2000 covered it nicely.
Famines are caused by corrupt governments, warlords,  and instability. Not "overpopulation ".
 
2017-04-14 09:14:08 AM  

NASAM: Lt. Cheese Weasel: Matthew Keene: Maybe if they'd stop farking like rabbits....

This deserves a This. Because this.

Um. No. overpopulation is a myth.
Rap master 2000 covered it nicely.
Famines are caused by corrupt governments, warlords,  and instability. Not "overpopulation ".


Link please?
 
2017-04-14 09:14:34 AM  

Matthew Keene: Maybe if they'd stop farking like rabbits....


Here's your bottom-line answer. You know those sad music commercials about 'feeding the children'? Guess what? They've been airing for decades and nothing has changed. Why keep farking and pumping out kids in this kind of famine environment? Jesus Christ, I understand wanting to get laid but get farking lucid. If these "Feed The Kids" ads changed to "Airdropping tons of condoms to prevent more suffering" and brought the birth rate to zero to prevent more suffering and starvation, then more people would get on board.

As it is now, "Feed The Children" efforts feel like a money-grabbing racket.
 
2017-04-14 09:14:48 AM  

iheartscotch: Africa wouldn't have nearly as many issues if we allowed them to fend for themselves.

Before the hate-storm; think about it logically. How much do you suppose a bushel of wheat sells for if you are constantly being given its products for free. The answer is: not much. So, instead of food, most farmers in Africa are growing cash crops like Tobacco. It's when the price of said cash crops drop AND we don't give them enough food that people start dropping.

/ it's the result of a truly free market.


Area man strongly criticizes the size and scope of what he imagines international food aid to be.
 
2017-04-14 09:14:50 AM  

This text is now purple: iheartscotch: SirDigbyChickenCaesar: iheartscotch: Africa wouldn't have nearly as many issues if we allowed them to fend for themselves.

Before the hate-storm; think about it logically. How much do you suppose a bushel of wheat sells for if you are constantly being given its products for free. The answer is: not much. So, instead of food, most farmers in Africa are growing cash crops like Tobacco. It's when the price of said cash crops drop AND we don't give them enough food that people start dropping.

/ it's the result of a truly free market.

Which one is it?

You seem to be laboring under the misapprehension that those two things are mutually exclusive.

If you can get something for free, why would you ever pay for it?

He's not arguing against the concept of how game theory reacts to free products entering the market, he's pointing out that foreign insertion of free product into the local economy is not a free market at work.


Is not a product given without cost a "free" product. And this is the free market. I mean, it's in the name.....

/ I know what you mean. Injecting foreign products at no cost into the market undercuts the value of local products. I've long though that we do it to intentionally keep African nations beholden to us.
 
2017-04-14 09:15:36 AM  
I first read it as, "solve Africa's feminine problem" and was confused...
 
2017-04-14 09:16:58 AM  

NASAM: Lt. Cheese Weasel: Matthew Keene: Maybe if they'd stop farking like rabbits....

This deserves a This. Because this.

Um. No. overpopulation is a myth.
Rap master 2000 covered it nicely.
Famines are caused by corrupt governments, warlords,  and instability. Not "overpopulation ".


Bull. Farking. Shiat.
 
2017-04-14 09:19:08 AM  
Pretty safe to say that whoever came up with this idea doesn't actually know much of anything about Africa.
 
2017-04-14 09:21:56 AM  

Rapmaster2000: iheartscotch: Africa wouldn't have nearly as many issues if we allowed them to fend for themselves.

Before the hate-storm; think about it logically. How much do you suppose a bushel of wheat sells for if you are constantly being given its products for free. The answer is: not much. So, instead of food, most farmers in Africa are growing cash crops like Tobacco. It's when the price of said cash crops drop AND we don't give them enough food that people start dropping.

/ it's the result of a truly free market.

Area man strongly criticizes the size and scope of what he imagines international food aid to be.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hX0g66MWbrk
 
2017-04-14 09:25:02 AM  

Norad: Matthew Keene: Maybe if they'd stop farking like rabbits....

Here's your bottom-line answer. You know those sad music commercials about 'feeding the children'? Guess what? They've been airing for decades and nothing has changed. Why keep farking and pumping out kids in this kind of famine environment? Jesus Christ, I understand wanting to get laid but get farking lucid. If these "Feed The Kids" ads changed to "Airdropping tons of condoms to prevent more suffering" and brought the birth rate to zero to prevent more suffering and starvation, then more people would get on board.

As it is now, "Feed The Children" efforts feel like a money-grabbing racket.


The reason people in parts of Africa have so many kids is the same reason Americans had so many kids 75 years ago.  In the absence of a reliable or alternate mechanism for building wealth and saving for retirement, creating children id the only way to build wealth and have someone take care of you when you're too old to work. It's in every individuals economic best interest in that system to have as many children as possible.

Regardless it's less relevant now days anyway because African birth rates are plummeting the same as everywhere else.
 
2017-04-14 09:27:46 AM  
A few million of these would help...
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2017-04-14 09:39:33 AM  

Norad: NASAM: Lt. Cheese Weasel: Matthew Keene: Maybe if they'd stop farking like rabbits....

This deserves a This. Because this.

Um. No. overpopulation is a myth.
Rap master 2000 covered it nicely.
Famines are caused by corrupt governments, warlords,  and instability. Not "overpopulation ".

Bull. Farking. Shiat.


Fretting about overpopulation died out in the 70s when the previous 50 years of predicted doom never came to pass.
 
2017-04-14 09:40:31 AM  

Smoking GNU: Thete's a pilot program being instituted her in Namibia. It's a combination of chicken (free-range and no growth hormone crap) fish and maggot farming scheme. The maggot part of it is to create and supplement feed for the chickens and fish so as to reduce and even try to eliminate imports of this type. My sister and her BF is heavily involved in the project and i'm thinking about getting a hand into it too.
If the project goes as planned it's projected to increase chicken (and egg) production by an order of magnitude for the next competitor inthe country and also break the monopoly they've had for decades now.


Having been to the 'every house is made of mud and sticks' parts of Kenya, almost all chicken is free range; along with the goats.
 
2017-04-14 09:43:02 AM  

Smoking GNU: It's a combination of chicken (free-range and no growth hormone crap)


You know where else they don't give poultry growth-hormones?

The United States.
 
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